Oral Cycle Input

[leostern]

I'm thinking about running a short oral cycle of Oxandrolone (var) and Methandienone (dbol) - 20-40mg of each per day. I’m on HRT with Test and Arimidex. This should provide moderate strength gains and recovery improvements. Any size gains would be icing on the cake.

Any thoughts, guidance, or suggestions?

 

[jp4355]

Don't know where you're at BF% wise.
But let me make a Suggestion.
Instead of Dbol, think Tbol.
Same Strength, without the Bloat............................... JP
P.S.
Cause you already have the Var for lean Gains, the Dbol would work against it.
P.S.S.
I just Started my Own Tbol/Var today.

 

[snackmachine]

good call jp - how about a var winny run?

 

[leostern]

Thanks for the advice. I was looking at Tbol, but had no experience or reference with it.

 

[leostern]

I was curious how your Tbol/Var cycle is working out? Any updates or advice?

 

[ironlou]

JP...
also super curious about Tbol but havent known anyone who as any experience with it...
i like the idea of the tbol/var especially

whats our experience been

 

[TBol]

Don't know where you're at BF% wise.
But let me make a Suggestion.
Instead of Dbol, think Tbol.
Same Strength, without the Bloat............................... JP
P.S.
Cause you already have the Var for lean Gains, the Dbol would work against it.
P.S.S.
I just Started my Own Tbol/Var today.

I second the TBOL suggestion!

 

[jp4355]

Thanks for the advice. I was looking at Tbol, but had no experience or reference with it.

Sorry I just noticed this, been a Very Busy Day.
OK, so Tbol was Originally Invented to have Less Sides than Dbol by the East German's, in the Late 60's.

It's Good because It'll Stack with just about any other AAS.
It doesn't Aromatize
It doesn't have any Progestagenic Activity either.
It also doesn't have the Roid Rage.

Most Guys will use it either Pre-Contest or for Cutting.
Since it doesn't have the Bloat that Dbol has, but the Strength is almost Equal.

Dosing for Tbol alone varies widely, but usually around 40 to 60 Mg a Day, Split into 2 equal Doses is good............................ JP
P.S.
Did I miss anything ?

 

[leostern]

No sir, thank you!

 

[varbomb]

I'm thinking about running a short oral cycle of Oxandrolone (var) and Methandienone (dbol) - 20-40mg of each per day. I’m on HRT with Test and Arimidex. This should provide moderate strength gains and recovery improvements. Any size gains would be icing on the cake.

Any thoughts, guidance, or suggestions?

Wini or Tbol instead of Dbol, Lean muscle is best when cutting or bulking as it stays on and looks good!

 

[ironlou]

winny will depend on bf% doesnt it?
i have NO experience at all with tbol but i like what it has to offer...
hows that going JP?

 

[TBol]

winny will depend on bf% doesnt it?
i have NO experience at all with tbol but i like what it has to offer...
hows that going JP?

Dude everything has to do with BF, wini var and tbol are alike with minor diffrence, for instance Tbol gives you the vascular look, I have done 3 var cycles and you could see the map of my veins now

 

[varbomb]

Dude everything has to do with BF, wini var and tbol are alike with minor diffrence, for instance Tbol gives you the vascular look, I have done 3 var cycles and you could see the map of my veins now

PLus Wini has the same effect as tbol but it helps you perform on caloric defecit too

 

[jp4355]

Dude everything has to do with BF, wini var and tbol are alike with minor diffrence, for instance Tbol gives you the vascular look, I have done 3 var cycles and you could see the map of my veins now

I have to Agree, the Lower your BF%, the Better your Cycle will be.
I'm not only Talking about What You See as far as Muscle Gains and Vascularity.

But More Importantly, what goes on Inside your Body.
The Higher your BF%, the More of a Strain it is on All your Vital Organs.................................... JP
P.S.
That's Really why you want the Lower BF, you don't want to Finish Your Cycle Prematurely because of Liver, Kidney, or Heart Problems.

 

[leostern]

Dude everything has to do with BF, wini var and tbol are alike with minor diffrence, for instance Tbol gives you the vascular look, I have done 3 var cycles and you could see the map of my veins now

Do you have a prefered brand of Var? Alpha Pharma, Vermodje, etc...