Pip

[sisir012]

One's my friend he use test p and tren acc but his main complain is Pip.....that is why I decide that I don't run short ester if I do 16 week cycle and during intermidiet should I use tren acc ? Lookes like that ,week 10 to 16 test e and week 6 to 16 tren acc... is it currect? Or should I use deca ?deca can be for cutting?

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[muskate]

There are 5 main causes of PIP:
first the shorter the ester, the higher the melting point. The shorter the ester - the more PIP
second, the concentration of the gear. The higher the concentration - the more PIP
third, the solvents used. The more BA - the more PIP
fourth, injecting too quickly
fifth, virgin muscle.

Long estered steroids that aren't highly concentrated are pretty much PIP free. I would stick with things like testosterone enanthate, tren enanthate, testosterone cypionate, primobolan depot etc.

Stay away from things like T400, test prop, tren ace etc.

Deca isn't the best option for cutting since it causes water retention. It's best to stick with compounds that don't aromatize into estrogen for cutting - primo, tren, anavar, proviron, masteron etc.

 

[Maximus88]

I was crippled on test prop! Could barely put on my shoes


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[LevButlerov]

One's my friend he use test p and tren acc but his main complain is Pip.....that is why I decide that I don't run short ester if I do 16 week cycle and during intermidiet should I use tren acc ? Lookes like that ,week 10 to 16 test e and week 6 to 16 tren acc... is it currect? Or should I use deca ?deca can be for cutting?

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No, deca defiinitely can not be used for cutting - it is a whole different story. Do as @muskate says, and it will be fine.

 

[Mobster]

Never had this problem ever.

 

[stevesmi]

test prop does cause pip but you should talk to your source about what doesn't cause PIP.. he should know his gear and should have already tried it all to know

 

[Eddie Haskell]

I was crippled on test prop! Could barely put on my shoes.

Wow! How long did that last, Maximus?

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

I prefer long esters for the lack of PIP but it mostly has to do with how good your source is. A good source can make test P that wont have a crazy bite but a lab that is not the best will have terrible PIP sometimes. Too much BA can be a main cause.

 

[Maximus88]

Wow! How long did that last, Maximus?

12 weeks! I used a mix of test cyp and prop and maybe one other test ester at 450 a ml. So super concentrated!
My quads and glutes tightened up so much I was having problems just walking. I had to force myself into a squat on leg days.
I didn't want to stop cause my sets of 5 went from 315- 465


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