Please Help!

[Jonnn]

I have never done anything before, this is my first go.

I am a 31yo Male.
So I just started this last Friday, 4 days in.

Friday 150mg Test/ 50mg Masteron,
Saturday - Anavar 20mg/ Clomid 50mg
Sunday - 150mg Test/ 50mg Masteron,
Monday - Anavar 20mg/ Clomid 50mg

And was going to continue this cycle for 8-12weeks.


I had help from a close friend of mine that has done it before.

He was asking me if I have been having mega boners yet, and I have not...in-fact I’m finding it super difficult to achieve an erection.... can’t get hard which is completely not normal for me...
Also, was told it was normal to get really good deep sleep, and I have barely slept the last 2 days...
This is about all that has change since starting Friday.

Is this normal?
Should I be worried?
And what is the normal timeline, taking said cycle before you should see side effects, good or bad??
Please help me out, I’m a little worried here and would like to know if I’m just over thinking this shit.

Would love a few different opinions and view points on what’s going on / what’s normal to expect.

 

[stevesmi]

never take advice from a friend man. you should have come to me for a 1 on 1 consult and got you straightened out

this is a mess, one of the most absurd setups i have ever seen in over a decade on these forums. your friend got you into a mess here. it is all wrong

 

[brandontx]

If I were you I would just stop immediately. You are probably going to have a bad experience with this cycle. Do some more research and then try again.

Orals are taken every day and 12 weeks is not ideal for them because they are hard on your liver and possibly lipids among other things. You don't need anything but test for your first cycle which you aren't doing. A drug used to control estrogen is needed day 1 which you don't have. Other drugs are used after the cycle to restore your body's ability to produce testosterone which you probably didn't plan for.

 

[dylangemelli]

this is honestly a mess man... i would also stop now because you dont really know what you are doing... its okay to stop and cut your losses as opposed to making a huge mistake

 

[Jonnn]

What do you suggest I do?

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Thank you for all the responses, with stopping now is there anything I should be concerned about?

 

[Jonnn]

If I were you I would just stop immediately. You are probably going to have a bad experience with this cycle. Do some more research and then try again.

Orals are taken every day and 12 weeks is not ideal for them because they are hard on your liver and possibly lipids among other things. You don't need anything but test for your first cycle which you aren't doing. A drug used to control estrogen is needed day 1 which you don't have. Other drugs are used after the cycle to restore your body's ability to produce testosterone which you probably didn't plan for.

I have 20mg of Nolvadex and Pregnyl for after.
Can you be more specific in what I should do? Or what a normal cycle with what I have looks like just to get my bearing on what’s going on. And if I just stop now should I be worried about anything or have any negative effects doing it for this long?

 

[brandontx]

You are only one week in. You will be fine. definitely stop now and let your body get back to normal for a while. Don't just try to quickly adjust what you are doing. chill, research, and then start again. I will let someone else chime in on a proper first cycle. You will need a good post cycle therapy (pct). I've never had to do pct because I'm on trt so I'm unqualified to give that answer.

 

[Jonnn]

Can someone tell me why this cycle is bad, not just that “it’s bad” id love a little information on why.

 

[Mobster]

Can someone tell me why this cycle is bad, not just that “it’s bad” id love a little information on why.

Brandontx already did. READ!

 

[Jonnn]

Brandontx already did. READ!

That he’s going to wait to let someone else chime in? or that he is unqualified to give an answer? Both of which didn’t answer the “why”.

I see the do (stop now), but not the why.
I’m just asking why is it so bad so I can equip myself with more knowledge. Everyone is just saying it’s bad, but not why it’s bad.

I’m chilling and attempting to proceed with the research part. Also, like I said earlier I have Nolvadex and Prefnyl are these not considered good to use for PCT?

 

[stevesmi]

it is bad because you are running compounds that are you not supposed to run on cycle. you are running pct drugs on cycle and the steroids you are using are being ran incorrectly. it is a bizarre setup entirely and makes no sense

i shot you over a PM, get in touch with me and we will get this fixed

 

[brandontx]

Why it's bad.

1. Too many drugs for your first time.
2. No drug to control estrogen. This equals water retention, high blood pressure, emotional distress, growing breasts, erectile dysfunction and many more
3. No pct. This equals longer recovery, loss of gains from cycle, lengthened period of low testosterone post cycle, feeling like complete shit, and many more.

The good way to do it equals an increase in muscle mass and low side effects.

The bad way equals no increase in muscle mass and lots of side effects

You are doing it the bad way. Research the good way.

It's that simple.

 

[Jonnn]

Thanks for the responses, can someone point me in the right direction to learn/research my first cycle ( Do and Do nots) appreciate all the help/info!

 

[marisol]

For rhe first cycle go with Test E only, up to 400 weekly for 12 weeks. I did this way, after a lot of research. First cycle is usualy a pointer how do you manage external test, which is base for any serious cycle in future. Also, use AI like Aromasin thru whole Test cycle. Take a blood work at the middle of cycle to see is your test high enough and estradiol in control (we dont want high estradiol). After 12 weeks, take 2 weeks brake and start PCT. During this brake continue with AI. Read the PCT sticky. Nolva, Clomid, Cardarin would be great. If you can afford HGH go with ot, it realy makes the difference. That simple. I was a novice 2 years agoo, and I read and read thru whole internet and watching youtube channels. Izs time consuming, but only way to do it right and save your health and wellbeeing.

 

[brandontx]

Using arimidex to control estrogen would make it even easier. 200 mg shot of test twice a week. Each time you take a shot take 1mg of arimidex. Lots of people like to spread the arimidex over the week but I know plenty who take it like that and have never had issues. Buuuuuut each person is different. Have to get bloodwork to figure out how you are reacting. You are trying to get high testosterone levels with normal estrogen levels. The more test you have the higher your estrogen is which is why another drug is needed. You raise test with test and you keep estrogen normal with another drug. Abnormal estrogen levels s the main source of side effects with test.

Now when you add other drugs, they vary in how much they raise estrogen. They also cause other problems like high prolactin, abnormal lipid levels, liver enzyme issue, and more. Those all require additional drugs, different dosages, supplements, etc to control. This is why you start with test and test only.

 

[cbbram]

First cycle should be Test only with an AI and PCT.

 

[RickRock]

Definitely test only for the first cycle