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[fraz_732000]

hi guyz!
how can i manage,testolic,primabolon,deca duraboln,boldinone,trenbolon along with dianabol n anavar?
in my mind i wana take start for 1st 4-6 weeks,testolic 200mg per week.primabolon 200mg per week, deca duraboln 200mg per week with dianabol 3-5 tabs a day,
after that i wana carry testolic 200mg per week, boldinone,trenbolon 200mg each per week,anavar 30-50 mg per day while drop primabolon,deca duraboln n dianabol, i ve started workout after 12 years n doing again since 3 months, i gain naturally 8kg n well form, now i wana start stacking,im 40 years old with 5.11" height at 80kgs body weight,
need your guidance, what im missing n where n how much, please arrange a good cycle for me, thanks in advance!
regard,
Faraz.

 

[muskate]

Wow wow wow. Slow down. If this is your first cycle after a 12 year lay off, you don't need that aggressive of a cycle. Truthfully, you don't need any cycle. You need to take the next couple of months to focus on your diet and training and get back into a regular training and eating routine.

Steroids are not magic. They work, absolutely, but without a well laid out diet and training program - they will do very little.

If you want to supplement your diet and training with anything, look into SARMS. Particularly the SARMS triple stack. http://www.evolutionary.org/the-SARMS-triple-stack-protocol

After the triple stack, run a mini PCT. 4 weeks of the following:
clomid at 25mg/day
nolvadex at 20mg/day
HCGenerate ES at 5 capsules/day
n2guard at 3 capsules/day

SARMS are minimally suppressive, there is no risk of aromatization (therefore no estrogen related side effects) and legal to use. You can get everything you need off sarms1.com, n2bm.com and ag-guys.com

 

[LevButlerov]

hi guyz!
how can i manage,testolic,primabolon,deca duraboln,boldinone,trenbolon along with dianabol n anavar?
in my mind i wana take start for 1st 4-6 weeks,testolic 200mg per week.primabolon 200mg per week, deca duraboln 200mg per week with dianabol 3-5 tabs a day,
after that i wana carry testolic 200mg per week, boldinone,trenbolon 200mg each per week,anavar 30-50 mg per day while drop primabolon,deca duraboln n dianabol, i ve started workout after 12 years n doing again since 3 months, i gain naturally 8kg n well form, now i wana start stacking,im 40 years old with 5.11" height at 80kgs body weight,
need your guidance, what im missing n where n how much, please arrange a good cycle for me, thanks in advance!
regard,
Faraz.

Looks like you want to be a walking chemical laboratory with so many compounds at once. Since your last cycle was 12 years ago, you are basically about to start your first cycle, and you should not be using this many compounds. The SARMS cycle as suggested by @muskate would be the ideal option to get well conditioned for AAS use again. If you insist on doing AAS right away, don't use all the compounds you mentioned. For instance, you should never use trenbolone with deca in the same cycle, neither it makes sense using Dbol and anavar in the same cycle. I don't see any ancillaries, nor PCT. Here is how the cycle should look like to begin with:

Weeks 1-12
Testosterone enanthate - 400-500 mgs per week
Aromasin - 10 mgs EOD
Dbol - 30 mgs for the first 4-6 weeks
N2Guard - 5 caps per day

Then wait two weeks, and do a PCT with clomid, nolvadex, HCGenerate ES, and Ostarine MK-2866.

 

[fraz_732000]

thanks for your response dear muskate, yes im agreed what you said,im concentrating on my diet,training n rest,i ll have to prepare for my mr district competetion which ll be held on dec 2016,i wana start my cycle from 15th feb 2016,i ll stack basic as you adviced,

 

[fraz_732000]

thanks for your kindness dear LevButlerov,
yep ur rite, i should not stack these all at the same time,actually i wana prepare bodybuilding competition ll held on dec 2016,im concentrating on balance diet,training n rest too, i wana start my 1st cycle from 15th feb, i ve some questions
1- why you prefer Testosterone enanthate on testosterone propionate?
2-why i cant take deca n primabolon along with testosteron,Aromasin n Dbol?ll it safe n fine?i saw many basic novice cycles consist them,
as you advice,i ll not stack any thing else in this cycle,
wait for your helping words, thanks in advance.

 

[muskate]

thanks for your kindness dear LevButlerov,
yep ur rite, i should not stack these all at the same time,actually i wana prepare bodybuilding competition ll held on dec 2016,im concentrating on balance diet,training n rest too, i wana start my 1st cycle from 15th feb, i ve some questions
1- why you prefer Testosterone enanthate on testosterone propionate?
2-why i cant take deca n primabolon along with testosteron,Aromasin n Dbol?ll it safe n fine?i saw many basic novice cycles consist them,
as you advice,i ll not stack any thing else in this cycle,
wait for your helping words, thanks in advance.

1. Testosterone is testosterone. The ester only changes how frequently you need to inject. With testosterone enanthate you need to inject only twice per week. With prop you need to inject EOD.

2. It simply isn't need. It's kind of liking setting your apartment on fire to kill a mouse when a simple mouse trap would be sufficient.

I still don't think you need a cycle. Especially not yet if your competition is in December. Run the triple stack as I suggested and consider doing a cycle May/June for your show.

 

[fraz_732000]

better n thanks again.

 

[fraz_732000]

dear muskate,
most of bodybuilder says that testosterone enanthate blocks water in your body while prop gives you dry lean gain though you have to pin more, can we pin all them to thigh muscles?what's better?

 

[muskate]

dear muskate,
most of bodybuilder says that testosterone enanthate blocks water in your body while prop gives you dry lean gain though you have to pin more, can we pin all them to thigh muscles?what's better?

Whoever told you that doesn't understand chemistry. Both testosterone enanthate and testosterone propionate are testosterone. The ester only changes how slowly the compound is released into your blood stream.

It's kind of like having 2 bottles of grape juice. In one you puncture a small hole and in the other you puncture a large hole. Grape juice will disperse faster from one then the other but both will disperse grape juice.

You can pin them all into your thigh muscles, yes. However, I recommend using glutes as an injection site as well. It's the easiest site to use and the more sites you rotate, the less scar tissue you will develop.

 

[fraz_732000]

this discussion was in many forums, anyways i ve no more doubts to take testi after ur reply,thanks.

 

[BigJay]

Holy cow. That's a amazing. testolic,primabolon,deca duraboln,boldinone,trenbolon along with dianabol n anavar? I never heard someone say that before. I would say after 12 years, you should take it easy and work your way up. That's alot!

 

[fraz_732000]

yes BigJay, i ll not stack them at the same time or in a same cycle, i ll start with basics as all my fellows suggest.

 

[dolol147]

seems like it's too much about these things.
Even you not use in same cycle, you also need to decide next one after you check your condition of the last one.

 

[fraz_732000]

yes dolol147,
every thing is im my mind,i know a lil bit too, it was just the excitement that i can't control,thanks for your advice.

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

Its great to see someone post up a cycle like this and listen to what the experienced guys have to say. Great job Fraz...this will pay off in the end with a better cycle and much better health!

 

[fraz_732000]

thanks dear Masonic Bodybuilder!

 

[fraz_732000]

dear muskate, another myth,if you pin a specific part which you think is weakest or didn't match your body balance like quad,rear deltoid etc,its better to pin there coz it ll increase much than the whole, true?

 

[muskate]

dear muskate, another myth,if you pin a specific part which you think is weakest or didn't match your body balance like quad,rear deltoid etc,its better to pin there coz it ll increase much than the whole, true?

Complete bro-science.

When you inject a steroid into a muscle, the steroid slowly disperses into your blood stream and is transported throughout the body to carry out it's mechanism of action. It doesn't stay in the muscle you inject it into.

Frequently injecting a muscle can build up scar tissue in the area which will make the muscle appear bigger, but site injections do not directly increase muscle growth.

 

[fraz_732000]

rite, did there any steroid that can be use for site enhancement n what are effects? remember im not talkng about syntherol.

 

[muskate]

rite, did there any steroid that can be use for site enhancement n what are effects? remember im not talkng about syntherol.

There aren't any. IGF would help, but you can't legitimate IGF without a prescription. All the stuff being sold by research chemical companies is fake.

 

[fraz_732000]

dear muskate, since your reply i was researching a lot on IGF-1,i ve read many articles n experience that people shared but all are almost a decade ago,still can't decide should some one go with it or not? does this really helps to increase the site at moderate dosage like 40mcg every day for 4-5 weeks without perma-gut?

 

[muskate]

dear muskate, since your reply i was researching a lot on IGF-1,i ve read many articles n experience that people shared but all are almost a decade ago,still can't decide should some one go with it or not? does this really helps to increase the site at moderate dosage like 40mcg every day for 4-5 weeks without perma-gut?

Real IGF-1 is not available. Whatever these research peptide companies are selling - it isn't IGF-1. Legitimate IGF-1 is the hardest bodybuilding drug to obtain.

Your best option is going to be nutrabol (mk-677). Nutrabol is a HGH analogue which stimulates the pituitary gland to increase HGH output, and increase IGF-1 levels as a result. You can order it from sarms1.com. Dose 25mg/day (12.5mg AM 12.5mg PM)
http://www.evolutionary.org/nutrobal-mk-677-ibutamoren

 

[fraz_732000]

dear LevButlerov, i wana add deca 400mg per week too n dbol 50mg per day

 

[LevButlerov]

dear LevButlerov, i wana add deca 400mg per week too n dbol 50mg per day

The 50 mgs of Dbol are fine - just make sure to be taking enough N2Guard to keep your liver in one piece. As for the deca, you can add it, but in such case a couple of changes in the cycle will be needed - first of all - add some cabergoline at 0.5 mgs E3D for possible prolactin issues, and increase the test dosage to 600 mgs per week. Finally, remove from the PCT nolvadex. Deca can increase the prolactin levels, whilst nolva will make the prolactin receptors more sensitive, wcih wll cause trouble if you mix them together.

 

[fraz_732000]

thanks LevButlerov for your kindness!

 

[prime863]

this is an interesting read ..

 

[fraz_732000]

my friend is having high blood pressure while on a cycle,test prop 400mg/week,prima 300mg/week,anavar 50mg/day n aromasin 12.5mg eod, any idea? what to do?

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

BP increasing is something that can happen on any cycle. I would make sure he is using a good organ/liver product like N2Guard. He could try increasing the AI dose as well. How high is it? Ultimately blood work will be the best way to tell if something is going on.

 

[muskate]

my friend is having high blood pressure while on a cycle,test prop 400mg/week,prima 300mg/week,anavar 50mg/day n aromasin 12.5mg eod, any idea? what to do?

Blood pressure increase is a common side effect of steroid usage. DONT take this lightly. Blood pressure is a silent killer for bodybuilders.

Lower the testosterone dosage to 200mg/week. Reduce your sodium intake and make sure you are drinking plenty of water throughout the day. Also start supplementing with fish oil at 6-10g/day. N2guard would be another great supplement to take.
http://needtobuildmuscle.com/store/Cycle-Support/N2-GUARD-p75.html

If the blood pressure doesn't decrease soon. Go to your doctor and have him write you a blood pressure medication prescription.

 

[fraz_732000]

bp is 97/167, what kinda tests are include in blood work? we are reducing sodium n starting supliments rite now.ll aromasin fine at 25mg/day too?

 

[muskate]

bp is 97/167, what kinda tests are include in blood work? we are reducing sodium n starting supliments rite now.ll aromasin fine at 25mg/day too?

That is a very high dosage of aromasin. I would lower it to 12.5mg EOD.

Just keep your eye on the blood pressure. It should go down if you are going to start reducing your sodium and taking the supplements. If it keeps increasing, do see your doctor and get a blood pressure medication prescription.

 

[fraz_732000]

sure i ll n thanks again dear muskate

 

[fraz_732000]

im about to start my cycle coming monday, is it better to take short ester test like prop for two weeks for kicking start your metabolism then switch to long ester like test enen?
my layouts
week1-12
test ene 500mg/week
deca 200 or 400 mg/week
week 1-6
dbol 50 mg/day
along with aromasin 12.5 eod,some liver protection,i can't find cabergoline in my country,any substitute for it? im confused to take deca dose,200 or 400mg/week?if i go with 400mg then i ll run test 600mg/week, guys suggest me where im wrong n what im missing,thanks.

 

[Newtothis21]

Okay I'm new to this forum thing I have ran a cycle of sustanon 250 but heard a cycle kinda like the one I have laid out below is a good cycle to run I'm just wondering if I have it made correctly if not what needs to be changed or added

Monday-40mg dbol, 250mg test, liv52 and milk thistle

Tuesday-40mg dbol, 25mg Aromasin,liv52 and milk thistle

Wednesday-40mg dbol, 250mg deca, liv52 and milk thistle

Thursday-40mg dbol, liv52 and milk thistle

Friday-40mg dbol, 250mg test,liv52 and milk thistle

Saturday-40mg dbol, 25mg aromasin, liv52 and milk thistle

Sunday-40mg dbol, 300iu hcg,liv 52 and milk thistle

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Also only running dbol first 4 weeks deca ten weeks and test 12 weeks hcg all during and post cycle with Clomid 100/50/50/50 and liver protection also whole cycle and post cycle

 

[fraz_732000]

comon guys im waiting..... i wana post my present pics too,how can i upload here directly?

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dear LevButlerov, layout my perfect pct please,im going with deca too.

 

[gearhead]

comon guys im waiting..... i wana post my present pics too,how can i upload here directly?

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dear LevButlerov, layout my perfect pct please,im going with deca too.

bro use imgur...

 

[foreverbulk]

Wow huge cycle for first cycle


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