Taking that next step...

[bigmanrobbino]

Hello Evo Community! I've been lurking for a bit and finally decided to create an account and interact with everyone. I'm a 35 yr. old male, standing at 5, 10", weigh 195 lbs., and have been lifting seriously for approximately 3 yrs. (3 yrs. this Aug.). I feel I have a decent foundation of strength (my current 1 RM's are: Squat - 420 lbs., Bench - 325 lbs., Deadlift - 460 lbs.), and am very interested in taking that next step and start running gear.

I'm not interested in getting as big as humanly possible but would rather be strong as well as aesthetic.

Any first cycle advice would greatly be appreciated. Thanks in advance for your help.

 

[stevesmi]

those are good lifts for a natty your weight

just start simple man. 500mg test a week

 

[bigmanrobbino]

those are good lifts for a natty your weight

just start simple man. 500mg test a week

Thanks brother. How long should I run that cycle for and what gains do you think I can realistically expect from it?

 

[bigmanrobbino]

Also I wouldn't consider myself full natty, I've ran a sarms cycle before (lgd/mk2866/mk677).

 

[dylangemelli]

heres a good starting cycle and noone can tell you what you will gain bro.. everyone is different and none of us are psychic in that regard...

1-12 test cyp 350-500 mg week
1-14 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
11-14 dga post ct https://www.dganutrition.com/product/post-ct/

pct 15-20

when you are in pct, you are going to get a major spike in cortisol... cortisol is termed the "gains killer" for a reason... it will put you into a catabolic state which will not allow you to build muscle and at the same time will eat it away, on top of the fact you will also get unwanted fat gain... so you will lose muscle and gain fat that you had just busted your ass an entire cycle for... GW and MK prevent the rise in cortisol... not only that but they keep you performing at a level you were while on cycle being the ultimate performance enhancers they are... on top of the fact that mk2866 is the ultimate for healing and recovery, which is imperative in pct as well as keeping strength up to a very high level... gw will also treat cholesterol and blood pressure, which are definitely things that need addressed in pct as well…Organ ST plays a pivotal role in a post-cycle therapy (PCT). There’s a strong misconception that the role of a PCT is simply to restart the natural testosterone production that was shut down from the steroid cycle. While this is true, there are a lot of the other issues that the body has to deal with during a PCT: hormone fluctuations, high liver enzymes, increased blood pressure, pressure on the kidneys and endocrine system, high stress and cortisol levels, the list goes on...Organ ST helps address all of these problems and helps you recover in a timely manner. The quicker you recover, the less likelihood of any long-term problems occurring, and the more likely that all gains you make during your cycle are retained.







clomid 50/50/50/25//25/25

nolva 40/40/40/20/20/20

aromasin 12.5 mg eod (adjust accordingly)
ORGAN ST https://www.dganutrition.com/cycle-support/organ-st
mk-2866 25 mg day (ONLY 4 WEEKS)

gw-501516 20 mg day

 

[bigmanrobbino]

heres a good starting cycle and noone can tell you what you will gain bro.. everyone is different and none of us are psychic in that regard...

1-12 test cyp 350-500 mg week
1-14 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
11-14 dga post ct https://www.dganutrition.com/product/post-ct/

pct 15-20

when you are in pct, you are going to get a major spike in cortisol... cortisol is termed the "gains killer" for a reason... it will put you into a catabolic state which will not allow you to build muscle and at the same time will eat it away, on top of the fact you will also get unwanted fat gain... so you will lose muscle and gain fat that you had just busted your ass an entire cycle for... GW and MK prevent the rise in cortisol... not only that but they keep you performing at a level you were while on cycle being the ultimate performance enhancers they are... on top of the fact that mk2866 is the ultimate for healing and recovery, which is imperative in pct as well as keeping strength up to a very high level... gw will also treat cholesterol and blood pressure, which are definitely things that need addressed in pct as well…Organ ST plays a pivotal role in a post-cycle therapy (PCT). There’s a strong misconception that the role of a PCT is simply to restart the natural testosterone production that was shut down from the steroid cycle. While this is true, there are a lot of the other issues that the body has to deal with during a PCT: hormone fluctuations, high liver enzymes, increased blood pressure, pressure on the kidneys and endocrine system, high stress and cortisol levels, the list goes on...Organ ST helps address all of these problems and helps you recover in a timely manner. The quicker you recover, the less likelihood of any long-term problems occurring, and the more likely that all gains you make during your cycle are retained.







clomid 50/50/50/25//25/25

nolva 40/40/40/20/20/20

aromasin 12.5 mg eod (adjust accordingly)
ORGAN ST https://www.dganutrition.com/cycle-support/organ-st
mk-2866 25 mg day (ONLY 4 WEEKS)

gw-501516 20 mg day

Understood and thanks for the advice/info. Very helpful .

 

[dylangemelli]

anytime bro

 

[muskate]

Here's what I recommend for a first cycle:

Weeks 1 - 10
testosterone e or cyp 500mg/week (inject 250mg twice per week)
aromasin 12.5mg every other day <- very important to prevent against estrogen related side effects like gyno and water retention.

After your cycle run the perfect PCT protocol: http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/

 

[bigmanrobbino]

Here's what I recommend for a first cycle:

Weeks 1 - 10
testosterone e or cyp 500mg/week (inject 250mg twice per week)
aromasin 12.5mg every other day <- very important to prevent against estrogen related side effects like gyno and water retention.

After your cycle run the perfect PCT protocol: http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/

Thanks for the input brother. I'm getting married in September and will be going out of the country (Belize) for our honeymoon, so realistically I won't run my first cycle until I come back; since I won't be paying as much attention to my diet or around a gym, etc...

As excited and anxious as I am to take this next step in my bodybuilding journey, not moving forward for a few mos. gives me plenty of time to educate myself and get everything in order.

 

[Mobster]

Solid start - but make sure to follow the cycles to the letter. Get the diet right too

 

[bigmanrobbino]

Here's what I recommend for a first cycle:

Weeks 1 - 10
testosterone e or cyp 500mg/week (inject 250mg twice per week)
aromasin 12.5mg every other day <- very important to prevent against estrogen related side effects like gyno and water retention.

After your cycle run the perfect PCT protocol: http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/

Good looking on the advice and suggestion. I'm getting married in Sept. and will be going out of the country (Belize) for our honeymoon, so realistically I won't run my first cycle until after I get back since I won't have my diet dialed in or be around a gym etc. during that time. As anxious and excited as I am to take that next step, this gives me plenty of time to educate myself and get everything in order beforehand. Thanks again.

Solid start - but make sure to follow the cycles to the letter. Get the diet right too

Sounds like a plan, thank you.

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

Keep us updated once you start. Sounds like you have everything in order.

 

[bigmanrobbino]

Keep us updated once you start. Sounds like you have everything in order.

Def will do.

@Mods, sorry for the double post, one of my posts didn't go through and said it had to be reviewed so stupid me posted again lol! In any case I appreciate all the feedback and am grateful for places like this.

 

[bigmanrobbino]

Hey Evo Fam! Just wanted to chime in and give you an update on everything...So I ordered test e from Steve's recommended US Domestic source which should be here tomorrow, as well as some pins. My first cycle will be 500 mg test e/week for 10 weeks. As I previously mentioned in this thread I won't be able to start my cycle until after my wedding/honeymoon (getting married towards the end of Sept.); I don't have enough time to start it now and pct, etc., plus it didn't make sense to me to start a cycle knowing that my diet won't be in check while we're out of the country on our honeymoon (we're going to stay on a private island in Belize for a couple of weeks).

In any case once that journey begins I'll update ya and keep you posted. Thanks again for all your feedback and great information in this thread and good lookin out Steve!

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ enjoy your trip man. be careful out there with food poisoning, make sure to take activated charcoal and some antibiotics just in case. the last time i went to the carbb my gf got nasty food poisoning from eating fish.

 

[Noise Poison]

heres a good starting cycle and noone can tell you what you will gain bro.. everyone is different and none of us are psychic in that regard...

1-12 test cyp 350-500 mg week
1-14 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
11-14 dga post ct https://www.dganutrition.com/product/post-ct/

pct 15-20

when you are in pct, you are going to get a major spike in cortisol... cortisol is termed the "gains killer" for a reason... it will put you into a catabolic state which will not allow you to build muscle and at the same time will eat it away, on top of the fact you will also get unwanted fat gain... so you will lose muscle and gain fat that you had just busted your ass an entire cycle for... GW and MK prevent the rise in cortisol... not only that but they keep you performing at a level you were while on cycle being the ultimate performance enhancers they are... on top of the fact that mk2866 is the ultimate for healing and recovery, which is imperative in pct as well as keeping strength up to a very high level... gw will also treat cholesterol and blood pressure, which are definitely things that need addressed in pct as well…Organ ST plays a pivotal role in a post-cycle therapy (PCT). There’s a strong misconception that the role of a PCT is simply to restart the natural testosterone production that was shut down from the steroid cycle. While this is true, there are a lot of the other issues that the body has to deal with during a PCT: hormone fluctuations, high liver enzymes, increased blood pressure, pressure on the kidneys and endocrine system, high stress and cortisol levels, the list goes on...Organ ST helps address all of these problems and helps you recover in a timely manner. The quicker you recover, the less likelihood of any long-term problems occurring, and the more likely that all gains you make during your cycle are retained.







clomid 50/50/50/25//25/25

nolva 40/40/40/20/20/20

aromasin 12.5 mg eod (adjust accordingly)
ORGAN ST https://www.dganutrition.com/cycle-support/organ-st
mk-2866 25 mg day (ONLY 4 WEEKS)

gw-501516 20 mg day

Who Aromasin in pct?

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Who Aromasin in pct?

why aromasin in pct?

 

[bigmanrobbino]

^^^ enjoy your trip man. be careful out there with food poisoning, make sure to take activated charcoal and some antibiotics just in case. the last time i went to the carbb my gf got nasty food poisoning from eating fish.

Damn, will do! And thanks for the heads up!

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Who Aromasin in pct?

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why aromasin in pct?

I would imagine to help prevent estrogen rebound.