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I literally just want to read everyone's thoughts on smoking marijuana while on cycle. Keep the harsh comments to yourself! Thank you
rickysim123
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I cant attest to this myself, but I know a few guys that currently do daily and are fine. arnold mentioned doing it commonly as well...
Testdude63
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I honestly don't think it will really mess with anything. Obviously I'm just basing this on my own opinion.
Thanks for the responses my evofam
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aaronjwh250
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As long as it doesn't hurt your training and diet, you'll be fine
bodean30
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At least one positive is that it'll make you eat more. But probably not the good kind of eating. Lol
About the worst that will happen is you get too lazy to do a workout.
I love weed. I love what it does for some people. I personally don't smoke it anymore, but used to love it. All things in moderation my friend.
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About the worst that will happen is you get too lazy to do a workout.
I love weed. I love what it does for some people. I personally don't smoke it anymore, but used to love it. All things in moderation my friend.
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NY REBEL
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Just do it before bed, sleep better, eat well, and not be a tren dick
the effect it has on your lungs I do not see how you can say it helps your training.. I dated a pothead and she smoked it daily out of a pipe and she would hack her brains out 24/7.. thought it was nasty and her pussy smelled like pot all the time.
seems like from your question you are trying to justify using it. look I am the most liberal guy you will find, I am all for decriminalizing and even legalizing it for adults, so I am not anti-pot.. I think medical pot should be 100% legal in every state, but to say it helps your weight training/cardio is wishful thinking. if you have a medical condition where it helps then yes I can see that.. i'd rather smoke pot then be on harsh Rx drugs for a medical problem.
seems like from your question you are trying to justify using it. look I am the most liberal guy you will find, I am all for decriminalizing and even legalizing it for adults, so I am not anti-pot.. I think medical pot should be 100% legal in every state, but to say it helps your weight training/cardio is wishful thinking. if you have a medical condition where it helps then yes I can see that.. i'd rather smoke pot then be on harsh Rx drugs for a medical problem.
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bodean30
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LMFAO! "her pussy smelled like pot all the time"
I was married to a pothead for years. I can completely agree with you.
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Hemp can in fact be quite beneficial during cycles. I remember not long ago there was an interesting article about hemp use during cycles. There it goes - http://www.evolutionary.org/marijuana-steroids
Also, you can read the discussion about the topic here - http://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/marijuana-steroids-safe-32433.html
Also, you can read the discussion about the topic here - http://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/marijuana-steroids-safe-32433.html
aaronjwh250
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I smoke pot and somehow I have a lot of respect for this.
2knives
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Wisdom!!
Sometimes it is my sleep inducer when i am too tightly wound to sleep.
raptor1331
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anyone heard of marijuana slightly elevating estrogen? fact or fiction? hmmmm
Couldabeenu
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Yes, it's very possible. I don't have references, but it certainly effects hormonal balances and profiles.
More importantly, consider that long term daily use of marijuana significantly increases your risk of gyno. It's not totally clear to me why, but I suspect it's a similar function as the 19-nor steroids; THC's primarily metabolite (11-nor-9-carboxy-delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol), contains an 11-nor element.
Whether this is the link or not, is totally open for proof, but it is at the least a small similarity.
I can say personally I have absolutely experienced increased gyno from smoking lots of the green. I am very gyno prone, and have had some since puberty. I've recently quit smoking.
For funies, man I used to LOVE toking a joint right before a lift. Maybe not safe to do much, or unless you're already very well conditioned (blood pressure, heart health etc) but geez it was certainly a blast to do every now and then.
Something else to consider, combining marijuana with ibuprofen or many or nsaids, is asking for immediate heart issues. Was on a gram of ibuprofen for my neck once, took a toke, and my heart rate was 156 while seated/laying down. It was a fucking miserable feeling. This is very dangerous, and had I not been in great shape, young, and otherwise healthy, it might have taken a great toll.
Nobody seems to share these experiences. Be careful, weed is actually a very powerful drug- don't let some hippie or group thinker tell you otherwise.
2knives
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I think perhaps my 20+ years using something does not make me a genius but it certainly says I have time in with this particular thing.
regular trees like kindbud for instance will have very little by way of negative effect. I can not speak for those space rangers with the medicinal grade stuff.
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Quoted the wrong person. Sorry.
It will slow cognitive function. I don't recommend it at all. Bodybuilders are athletes first and foremost. No serious athlete uses recreational drugs.
There will be a lot of exceptions to this. I know a lot of professional bodybuilders who are pot heads but I don't recommend it at all.
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The data is kind of all over the place but some studies have shown that it will increase estrogen levels in rats.
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I don't even see how weed is considered a drug. It's the least harmful thing you can do. Ibuprofen is more damaging then weed
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Couldabeenu
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I can second this. Besides the gyno, the biggest reason I quit was because I noticed some dramatic decline in memory, ease of logic, and generally growing dumber. I'm a pretty smart dude, but had plenty of evidence that I wasn't as sharp as I once was.
Couldabeenu
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Did you read my recent previous post about combining ibuprofen and weed? Ibuprofen is not harmless. It's dangerous for the heart, and also easily leads to gastric ulcers, which can be deadly if mismanaged.
Weed is not harmless, that's just been the best slogan candidate for it's legalization, but that is false.
Combining them is particularly dangerous, just read my previous post about a resting heart rate of 156. Tell me that's normal/healthy.
Weed IS a powerful drug, and anybody who thinks differently is wrong and misinformed (very very common unfortunately). Among the few drugs that are as or more psychoactive than weed are MDMA, LSD, and some mushrooms.
Even though it's rare, weed also has a propensity to unlock or exacerbate pre-existing mental illnesses, as shown in recent medical studies, in some cases depression, anxiety, paranoia, in some cases schizophrenia. I once had a very close friend, closer than a brother, who lost his life after a long struggle with intense schizophrenia. His episodes were brought on by smoking weed. Maybe the end result would have been the same without smoking- maybe he was doomed from the start. But myself witnessing him smoke weed and then enter a crying, panicked frenzy of fear, and then going to his funeral 3 years later, that's a bit eye opening. Especially when you clearly remember him taking the drag, and seeing the immediate reaction.
So yea, weed is not harmless. Yes, it's perfectly safe for most, but let's not go about spreading mistruth's that it's harmless. Imagine if somebody has a history of schizophrenia in their family, and their misinformed friend tells them that "weed is harmless", and they smoke it. You see what I mean.
Here's the study:
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0306452200005522
aaronjwh250
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I remember reading a pubed article saying it has a small but pretty much insignificant effect on raising estrogen. It also lowers prolactin, but its not strong enough to lower or raise either/or outside of the normal range. You will not notice a difference.
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I don't smoke but definitely agree its one of the least harmful substances out there
raptor1331
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i dont smoke. but its not because i think weed is the devil, or horrible for me. i still say its a drug though. it alters your thinking and the way your brain processes shit. i have a really low tolerance to weed, i cant even take a hit without loosing all my common sense, especially some of this super potent shit they have these days. do i like the feeling of being high? usually. but for me the negatives outweigh the positives. i like my mind being sharp, and i like being in control.
I will use marijuana every now and then. There isn't anything wrong with it. If you don't like it don't use it. It's hands down a better alternative to drinking.
we all agree that alcohol is the most deadly compound on earth. everyone on here has been in or knows someone who was in a drunk driving accident and alcoholism destroys families.
however marijuana is still harmful, ironically according to this it is MORE harmful than anabolic steroids to both the person and others. to think it somehow is good for you is laughable and wishful thinking. that is the same twisted mentality of a 15 year old thinking AAS won't harm their body.. gyno, HPTA shutdown, acne, live strain, heart strain etc are all real sides of steroids.
having said all that it would be a FAR better world if people used AAS and pot instead of alcohol.
however marijuana is still harmful, ironically according to this it is MORE harmful than anabolic steroids to both the person and others. to think it somehow is good for you is laughable and wishful thinking. that is the same twisted mentality of a 15 year old thinking AAS won't harm their body.. gyno, HPTA shutdown, acne, live strain, heart strain etc are all real sides of steroids.
having said all that it would be a FAR better world if people used AAS and pot instead of alcohol.
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jackedtothemax
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I like to remain sharp too. Weed makes me paranoid.
One thing about weed is that smoking too much can cause gyno.
One thing about weed is that smoking too much can cause gyno.
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is it the weed that causes gyno or the eating afterwards lol! I used to be a huge pothead. hit 20 years old and quit cold turkey. ill indulge in some booze 1-2x a year but thats it. id rather jack my narcism levels up and lift heavy ass shit and look good. feels better than being under the influence
common sense right..
aaronjwh250
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I used to run a ton of long distance and did marathon training even though I never actual ran a marathon. 2 or 3 blunts used to be apart of my preworkout stack. No kidding. It didn't hurt my running at all. In the gym I felt like I could do a lot more too. I got a better pump and was able to do more reps and higher volume work due to the motivated high feeling it brings made me forget about the pain and push even harder. Not to mention the actual pain relieving and anti inflammatory effect is brings probably played a roll too
Smokey McPot
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You know what I'm gonna say mon...SMOKE IT MON!
riprock713
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Lol I dont think it would matter in the slightest, I have on my cycle a couple times.
Right over your head lol.
Quite literally impossible. 0 thc overdoses in billions of years.
You can get sold spiked/bunk weed (maybe pcp, etc). Many of the bad symptoms described correspond with bunk - but in scientific reality - there's no harm from pure/actual weed (besides smoking - which is pretty much duh on the lungs). Asinine.
And to the potheads - weed is not a fn PWO. That's all mental, sorry.
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