weird PIP question/ help

[tenacious]

ok, I put this off until now but figured its time to ask some questions from the pro's.
I pinned test c a few years back and had very little pip. On a 1-10 scale I would call it a 2 at best. It just kind of felt like a small bruise for a couple days after pinning. Never a problem, never a big deal.

Fast forward to this week. I got two vials of test e and pinned my right quad Monday morning. I heated the vial in a small dish of hot water, alcohol swabbed correctly, drew with one pin and injected with another. I'm using 25 gauge 1" pins. During the day I had some tenderness, about a 1-2 on the pain scale, no big deal. I went to work on Tuesday and the pain went up to about a 6 or 7. The injection site itself didn't have any real pain but 4" closer to my knee is where the pain was concentrated. There was a lump there about 1-2" around. It didn't turn red or get hot or anything. By Tuesday night the pain increased some more, 7-8 range. I stretched it, massaged it, etc but got no relief. I seriously didn't think I could pin again on Thursday because the pain was that bad.

Wednesday the pain subsided down to about a 3-4. I went to the gym Wednesday night and did some light leg exercises and by the time I went to bed the pain was completely gone. I still had some tenderness when I touched where the lump was, but no pain walking or moving. I wrote it off as user error since I hadn't pinned in a few years.

I pinned in my left quad Thursday morning. I was pretty good during the day but started having pain Thursday night. Friday at work, I gimped around like tiny tim from the pain. By the end of the day it was an 8-9. When I got home I really couldn't bear any weight on my left leg. Again I had a 2" lump 3-4" closer to my knee than the spot I pinned. When I got home I literally jumped in bed and fell asleep, shit hurt that bad.

Today I worked a side job and the pain and lump was still there but the pain dropped to a 4-5. Right now, its about a 2.
I have no pain whatsoever in my right leg and if history repeats itself I should have no pain in my left leg tomorrow or sunday.

Can anyone give me a hint as to what I'm doing wrong? The test came from a very reputable supplier on here so I don't think I got bunk gear. I followed all the proper procedures
and didn't do anything dumb in the pinning process. I heated the oil and injected slow. I was thinking that nerves caused me to screw something up on the first injection so I took my time and made sure my second injection was the symbol of perfection. I'm back at not wanting to pin on Monday again because of the pain.
I can deal with pain and understand its part of the game, but I think what I am getting is way past normal pip.
Thanks in advance for any help/ suggestions.

 

[Captain Androgen]

Could be a reaction to the oil in the gear that doesn't agree with you, but also I don't think a 1" is deep enough for quads. I would go 1.5"

 

[fortitude18]

Depends what it is mixed with there are guys that can only use certain oils......Also Test E....Well I will not get into it to much but there have been concerns over test E in the last couple of months.....Most likely an allergy since you know how to inject properly...

 

[RickRock]

Definitely could be the gear. Doesn't mean it isn't legit. It could just be the carrier that is giving you the PIP. using a longer needle to get deeper in the tissue may help too, and ALWAYS inject slow. The slower the better

 

[Buggy2hot]

I tend to get PIP and swollen lumps when I inject what feels like directly through the middle of a vein/nerve. Not fucking happy to see that stream of blood after removing the pin...

 

[Buggy2hot]

Also, a trick I've found that works for me is that (bc I inject as slow as humanly possible to ensure minimal complications) when I select a spot to inject, my body kinda "tells me" if I'm about to hit a nerve/vein just by touching the skin with the tip of a needle. A bit hard to explain, but when I find a "painless pointer spot", I inject crazy slowly to guarantee maximum safety until I'm deep in the muscle.

 

[Buggy2hot]

Another note: I NEVER pin quads bc of the higher probability of hitting nerves/veins lower than the torso. I stick to glutes/pecs/delts/triceps -- 8 sites right there.

 

[Hesnobradpitt]

Could be the carrier oil.

I've also had similar from missing muscle belly and going between the quad muscles it tracked down nearly to my knee lumped and was crippling pain.

Hope this helps mate.

Brad.

 

[lancer55]

Depends what it is mixed with there are guys that can only use certain oils......Also Test E....Well I will not get into it to much but there have been concerns over test E in the last couple of months.....Most likely an allergy since you know how to inject properly...

x2, I have heard a bit about Test-E raws lately, if not that then could be a reaction to the oil.

 

[hurricane]

how meaty are you ? 90% of the peple 1" will be fine for quads but for bigger people that could be the problem.Maybe you have bad gear? or a bad batch? It happens even with good sources.

 

[Shrine]

I think its the gear, and your body just isnt doing well with it

 

[tenacious]

thank you for all of the replies. I ordered some cyp and will give it a shot.
I am 6' and 180lbs.
thanks again.

 

[tenacious]

I have pretty much ruled out the chance that I hit a nerve. I tickled one on a previous cycle. There was immediate hardcore pain before I got the pin all the way buried that time. I knew something bad was going on so I aborted and re-pinned without any issue.

 

[Flip Digler]

I could of guessed that it was test-e . Drop it , don't use it , get some cyp and you will have a good run without pain . Trust me .


" Caann youuu dig itttt ! "

 

[magyar86]

Had a buddy that got a bunch of gear called "sus-a-ton 375" is was reg blend of sus but 1.5 ml in each vial. Well that had horrible pip, so much so that I was given it for free and it took me forever to use it up since I had to dilute it so dang much. The other guy that was using it got horrible swelling around his knee after quad injection, i think it had too much alcohol in it or something. I never swelled like he did but it was super painful. I would say if your new test c goes smooth just mix your test e and c at a ratio that's tolerable, unless you would rather just toss it or give it away.

 

[dylangemelli]

it definitely has something to do with the carrier oil or gear itself bro... im sure you can ascertain that from all the responses... this is the issue that needs addressed...

 

[JackSteel]

PIP doesn't mean juice is bunk. That's a part of the juice life. I do 1/2 inch in the quads sometimes and I don't ever get horrible PIP anymore. But it's sore soemtimes


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[gymrat827]

it definitely has something to do with the carrier oil or gear itself bro... im sure you can ascertain that from all the responses... this is the issue that needs addressed...

this.


how many times have you used this same source before??

know anyone else using the same source ??

most/all aas will have a tiny bit of PIP. shitty stuff will have a lot......esp if its a fast/quick ester.

 

[tenacious]

This is the first time I used this source.
I don't know anyone personally using it, but a few members here are.

My last pin was Thursday. I still have some minor pain, some swelling, and there's about a 10"-12" long 5"-6" wide area of my thigh that's been pink the last couple days.
As stated, I've dropped test all together. I ordered test c on the first but haven't received it yet so I'm switching gears and just going to finish out the dbol.

 

[caveman72]

I know what it is, I got test from another forum always no pip but this batch it hurt the next day like prop but it was a sterile swell a bit bigger and keep in mind only prop hurts not test e. I know the gear has test in it but didn't know for sure what ester it was says enanthate but didn't want to take chance A.Y. quit sales on test e that's what made my mind up to just go back to prop made my own less pip than any ugl exspecially medtech and I liked there's so either get prop or cyp. or decanate or undecanate. good luck

caveman72 using not abusing

 

[manzach123]

Maybe your not Injecting deep enough into the muscle... Sometimes you get a oil pocket, where the oil is stored in the fat and not the muscle. Which is okay btw, but it just takes longer to distribute the gear into the body.