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Hi guys
I’m new to this forum and just got a question. There’s one thing I usually don’t get is why do we need ultra high testosterone to stack with AAS?

Like when someone is on TRT, then why does he need another say 500mg Test per week to do his blasting? Why not just do TRT dose and let the AAS do their job?

Thanks!
 
lmaoareyouserious said:
Hi guys
I’m new to this forum and just got a question. There’s one thing I usually don’t get is why do we need ultra high testosterone to stack with AAS?

Like when someone is on TRT, then why does he need another say 500mg Test per week to do his blasting? Why not just do TRT dose and let the AAS do their job?

Thanks!
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Good question because i still to this day will never understand the need... i never personally go higher than 350 on any cycle... test is the backbone but it does its job effectively at a moderate dose... the higher u go, the higher the sides... what a breath of fresh air to see someone that gets it!


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So someone on 400 Tren a week doesn’t actually need double that in testosterone hahaha, so much misleading info online. I read somewhere stating you should always double or base your stack on test
 
who in the world told you that you need to even do that?

most of my cycles I have ran the past 5 years have had 0 testosterone included.

i think what happens is guys who are on TRT get free test from their doctor via insurance so they push their personal agenda on others. the reality is more and more people are doing HRT without testosterone using other steroids anyway. in fact EQ and tren were originally used for this purpose before they were banned, then brung back as vet steroids. most people don't know that and they think they have always been vet steroids, when i correct them on this they shut up fast.
 
Testosterone is what is naturally occurring in the body. It's not manipulated for the goal of building muscle, prevent muscle loss etc. like other steroids have been.

Testosterone really isn't that great of a steroid. You do not need to bump up your testosterone higher then a TRT dosage. In fact, for 99% of my clients on TRT, when they blast I keep their testosterone where it is but add in other compounds like primo, eq etc.
 
lmaoareyouserious said:
Hi guys
I’m new to this forum and just got a question. There’s one thing I usually don’t get is why do we need ultra high testosterone to stack with AAS?

Like when someone is on TRT, then why does he need another say 500mg Test per week to do his blasting? Why not just do TRT dose and let the AAS do their job?

Thanks!
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We don't. And fuck TRT
 
Nice replies guys.

But every single I read a thread about TRT, people just state they are gonna blast with extra T with AAS and people seem to agree but I don’t get the reason behind it.

Here is one of the example I just found in this forum. What do you guys think?

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/trt-blast-cruise-planning-54345.html

Thanks!

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https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/people-who-blast-cruise-41884.html

And this..
 
lmaoareyouserious said:
Nice replies guys.

But every single I read a thread about TRT, people just state they are gonna blast with extra T with AAS and people seem to agree but I don’t get the reason behind it.

Here is one of the example I just found in this forum. What do you guys think?

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/trt-blast-cruise-planning-54345.html

Thanks!

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https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/people-who-blast-cruise-41884.html

And this..
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You'll see from my replies on similar threads I've asked for the logic... never get a reply. I'll ask for photos of their Olympian physiques and I don't get any.

The problem is quite simple:

1) They LIKE HOW THEY FEEL ON
2) They wont admit they're wrong
3) They're already a BIT fucked so a BIT MORE fucked makes little difference
4) They're usually young. Three years later they come back posting about 'restarting their HPTA's' and 'wanting kids', admitting 'they fucked up'.
5) They're scared to come off 'in case I lose all my 'gainz''.

It's kinda pathetic. Part of the skewed logic comes from seeing just how fkin freaky and monsterous some top pros are. Take my first seminar - Tom Platz. Short really and only a little muscular dressed. But when he dropped his training baggies and hit the thigh shot - fkin BOOM! Hairs on the back on the neck and 500 nutters, inc me, going WTF!!??

Heck, even I have had guys come up to me when I've worked at Expos and take photos with me. One guys son embarrassed him a little by saying 'my dad watches your videos in his shed before working out'. Dad got all red faced ha ha. In another example one guy posted saying 'I'll never be as strong as you' and I (not too nicely) replied 'not with that attitude. All in all that's part of the mentality of guys on so-called (it so rarely is) TRT or 'blasting and cruising'. It's tied with how they feel without - like losing a comfort blanket - vs actual NEED. We've two mods on actual TRT. The rest of us cycle on and off as needed. I do ONE 10 week or so cycle a year. That's it.
 
Mobster said:
You'll see from my replies on similar threads I've asked for the logic... never get a reply. I'll ask for photos of their Olympian physiques and I don't get any.

The problem is quite simple:

1) They LIKE HOW THEY FEEL ON
2) They wont admit they're wrong
3) They're already a BIT fucked so a BIT MORE fucked makes little difference
4) They're usually young. Three years later they come back posting about 'restarting their HPTA's' and 'wanting kids', admitting 'they fucked up'.
5) They're scared to come off 'in case I lose all my 'gainz''.

It's kinda pathetic. Part of the skewed logic comes from seeing just how fkin freaky and monsterous some top pros are. Take my first seminar - Tom Platz. Short really and only a little muscular dressed. But when he dropped his training baggies and hit the thigh shot - fkin BOOM! Hairs on the back on the neck and 500 nutters, inc me, going WTF!!??

Heck, even I have had guys come up to me when I've worked at Expos and take photos with me. One guys son embarrassed him a little by saying 'my dad watches your videos in his shed before working out'. Dad got all red faced ha ha. In another example one guy posted saying 'I'll never be as strong as you' and I (not too nicely) replied 'not with that attitude. All in all that's part of the mentality of guys on so-called (it so rarely is) TRT or 'blasting and cruising'. It's tied with how they feel without - like losing a comfort blanket - vs actual NEED. We've two mods on actual TRT. The rest of us cycle on and off as needed. I do ONE 10 week or so cycle a year. That's it.
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Ya man I found you have posted a lot of replies against Blast and Cruise protocol and I agree with what you said above. However, my case is quite different, due to an accidence my body nearly no longer produce T so I have to be on TRT for the rest of my life. So in this case, I am thinking of doing a "Blast" cycle soon, have been researching online but still do not get why we need such extra high T (say 2000-3000 ng/dl) during blasting. :confused::confused::confused::confused:
 
lmaoareyouserious said:
My doc prescrible me with Nebido 1g per 10 weeks.
Have been training for 3-4 years now mainly powerlifting and strength focus.
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So about 100mg a week then. How well do you get on with it? Baring in mind the initial question even going to 250mg a week could make quite the difference in your case.
 
Masonic for your 300 mg test /Tren would you be splitting 2 x a week 150 mg test & 150 mg Tren in same needle 2 x a week ?
 
I am new to this area, but to my knowledge, when you are on TRT (assuming you are going to a real doctor) they are probably monitoring the levels and keeping them under 1000. To get optimal muscle growth, dont you want to be at 1500+?

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Or am I misunderstanding the question?
 
I get what you mean but since AAS would do a better job than T in terms of gaining then Why even bother going on high T and risk getting Gyno? If that makes sense. Cos I usually see guys going super high T on every cycle like 500-700mg T EW.
 
That’s what I meant what’s the point of high test with the sides and less of a muscle and strength builder than Tren or others
 
HoldMyBeer said:
I am new to this area, but to my knowledge, when you are on TRT (assuming you are going to a real doctor) they are probably monitoring the levels and keeping them under 1000. To get optimal muscle growth, dont you want to be at 1500+?

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Or am I misunderstanding the question?
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Regardless of the actual number (which I suspect would vary from one person to the next) the original question related to how an awful lot opf users put in a LOT of steroids (or test). Some doing a gram plus a week. We know of guys that do 5g a week. Yet aren't 5x as big etc.

Legitimate TRT does confuse the issue. An endo or doc is only concerned with health. Adding a so-called blast of as little as 300mg (which would be a low dose regardless can have an effect. More so when, in effect, the user is 'just getting by' T wise. The blood measure is useful as a measure but not necessarily as a means of anabolic activity (meaning growth etc)
 
HoldMyBeer said:
I am new to this area, but to my knowledge, when you are on TRT (assuming you are going to a real doctor) they are probably monitoring the levels and keeping them under 1000. To get optimal muscle growth, dont you want to be at 1500+?

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Or am I misunderstanding the question?
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You are slightly misunderstood.

Testosterone is just ONE anabolic hormone. Other anabolic hormones are arguably even more efficient at building muscle.

Keep your test at TRT and then add in some tren. Tell me you won't grow like a weed
 
chb1353 said:
Masonic for your 300 mg test /Tren would you be splitting 2 x a week 150 mg test & 150 mg Tren in same needle 2 x a week ?
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Yes, that is typically how I run any cycle. I prefer long esters and pin twice per week. If things come up there is nothing wrong with pinning once per week though. Twice will give you more stable hormone levels though.
 
Masonic Bodybuilder said:
Yes, that is typically how I run any cycle. I prefer long esters and pin twice per week. If things come up there is nothing wrong with pinning once per week though. Twice will give you more stable hormone levels though.
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And note it's not high doses of either
 
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