Cycle feedback

[GearguyCanada]

Hi all,

I’m newish on the board but not new to the topic.

I’m 39, 225 and fairly active in sports etc

I want to get ready for rugby season so in lre-season i’m going to get my fitness up a bit and cut some fat (i have some to lose).

Diet is very decent mostly and i know where to adjust on the bad parts.

Due to timing/travel i’m going to run a 4 week mini cycle in pre season :-

50MG - Winstrol
50MG - Anavar (i have it left over)
20mg Cardarine

4 week Perfect PCT (i know it’s overkill but i like ostarine ;p)

Any thoughts? I know length is short so i can maybe do 6 weeks.

I know a lot of people are against orals only but I can’t pin for various reasons (wife being one of them) so I just need to accept it

Thanks!!

 

[TheGainTrain]

Lol, what’s the wife gotta do with it? Do you tell her how to dress or do her makeup?
If yes...you asshole!
If no... just tell her. “Look, I’m fucking trying to look like captain America here.. don’t you wanna get f&ed by a superhero?”

MOSTLY kidding about the first part...

Definitely not ideal imo.
But why not?
I’ve seen successful oral only cycles (gains wise, tho they didn’t like the shutdown).

Would you make gains? Hell ya!


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[1989]

I dont see gains anywhere. Just weaker , temporarly skinnier and some painful limbs playing an already brutal sport.

Goodluck chuck

 

[TheGainTrain]

I dont see gains anywhere. Just weaker , temporarly skinnier and some painful limbs playing an already brutal sport.

Goodluck chuck

You think taking a steroid will make you weaker or skinnier? Heard of Ben Johnson? He ran a Winnie only cycle.

Not saying it’s a good idea to run an oral only. . . In fact, that’s kinda chick shit imo.
I’d never do it, or recommend it.
But with good nutrition, hard training and a pct, Gainz WILL be made.

That being said.. grow a pair and pin!
At least when they shrink you’ll have testosterone for basic health function.




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[GearguyCanada]

Lol, what’s the wife gotta do with it? Do you tell her how to dress or do her makeup?
If yes...you asshole!
If no... just tell her. “Look, I’m fucking trying to look like captain America here.. don’t you wanna get f&ed by a superhero?”

MOSTLY kidding about the first part...

Definitely not ideal imo.
But why not?
I’ve seen successful oral only cycles (gains wise, tho they didn’t like the shutdown).

Would you make gains? Hell ya!


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Lol i love this reply...

My mrs is French so i don’t tell her to do anything

I’ll give this one a pop then, thanks

 

[GearguyCanada]

I dont see gains anywhere. Just weaker , temporarly skinnier and some painful limbs playing an already brutal sport.

Goodluck chuck

Why would I end up weaker? My diet will get my weight off, i just want to keep my strength/power.

I don’t pin and I won’t (i know it’s 100% better) but when I ran Turinabol and Anavar cycle last time i kept all my gains which were a bit size but mostly strength power and I checked my test/liver after and all was good/normal range.

I’m looking to be strong/efficient not huge

 

[dylangemelli]

i dont like it at all... not even close... first of all, i hate oral only cycles but beyond that, you are running both orals at their high end doses... this is a recipe for nothing but problems... i would skip this altogether... orals are going to cause other issues aside from all the toxicity... the pain you are going to endure from muscle pumps etc are also going to be quite bad

 

[stevesmi]

for rugby i would be very careful using winny. you won't like the pumps or the joint issues

i think some sarms + maybe EQ at most would be sufficient depending on your position

 

[1989]

Why would I end up weaker? My diet will get my weight off, i just want to keep my strength/power.

I don’t pin and I won’t (i know it’s 100% better) but when I ran Turinabol and Anavar cycle last time i kept all my gains which were a bit size but mostly strength power and I checked my test/liver after and all was good/normal range.

I’m looking to be strong/efficient not huge

I personally dont like it. You're 39. 225, didnt give height, probably in the %15-%25 body fat spectrum, your diet will keep your weight off you say, yet you're running steroids known for only fat loss.

Many people have success with oral only cycle, I would atleast remove the winny, but we live n we learn

 

[Eddie Haskell]

I personally dont like it. You're 39. 225, didnt give height, probably in the %15-%25 body fat spectrum, your diet will keep your weight off you say, yet you're running steroids known for only fat loss.

Many people have success with oral only cycle, I would atleast remove the winny, but we live n we learn

Yes, it would be helpful were we to be privy to his height and percentage of body fat.

 

[GearguyCanada]

6’1 and 13/14% was 13% before holidays but it’ll be closer to 14% now

Thanks for all the advice fellas, i’m gonna back off the winstrol as i’ve never used it before either so i don’t know the pumps etc.

Still not gonna pin so I may run Turinabol for 6 weeks during season start instead.

 

[Eddie Haskell]

6’1 and 13/14% was 13% before holidays but it’ll be closer to 14% now

Thanks for all the advice fellas, i’m gonna back off the winstrol as i’ve never used it before either so i don’t know the pumps etc.

Still not gonna pin so I may run Turinabol for 6 weeks during season start instead.

As others have so advised you, GearguyCanada, as an athlete, the only steroids that would serve your needs are EQ (equipoise) and low does test.' However, running EQ for a mere six weeks would constitute a waste of EQ which needs twelve weeks to do what it is intended to do. So too would running EQ while carrying 13% body fat constitute a waste of EQ.

 

[GearguyCanada]

Makes sense, thanks for taking time to reply

 

[Mobster]

The guys have you covered.

 

[Fella Finn]

I assume he is satisfied.

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Makes sense, thanks for taking time to reply

You are, of course, more than welcome.

 

[muskate]

I would look into SARMS instead.

The triple stack would be a good SARM stack to run -> https://www.evolutionary.org/the-SARMS-triple-stack-protocol

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Makes sense, thanks for taking time to reply

Again, you are quite become, GearguyCanada. And do yourself an enormous favor by sticking with AAS, because their so-called alternatives are not nearly as effective. They are, however, grotesquely expensive.

 

[Glycomann]

Well, probably get the wife on board. Other than that I di sports well into my late 40s and from 27-37 while cycling steroids. The best is low dose used only for recovery. You will put on a few lbs of muscle and also recover y much faster. Winstrol use to be my goto but Anavar is also good and may be better. Using pharma grade winstrol I used as low as 100 and up to 180 mg per week as a stand alone. Worked great. Most often 15-20 mg/d was sweet spot for heavy grappling with road work and weight training as auxiliaries.

 

[gearhead]

Again, you are quite become, GearguyCanada. And do yourself an enormous favor by sticking with AAS, because their so-called alternatives are not nearly as effective. They are, however, grotesquely expensive.

bro how you figure alternatives are not effective? wanna site your source?....

 

[Chemically Enhanced]

Andriol - oral test and not liver toxic, however requites large amounts to be effective (500-600mg ED). The dose will need to be split into x2 daily due to its short half-life and it needs to be taken with fatty foods for better absorption.
Not sure about the prices of this compound but heard it's more expensive than injectable test, as well as it's not as widely available as the injectable test.

 

[Mobster]

bro how you figure alternatives are not effective? wanna site your source?....

The comment was 'not NEARLY as effective'. I think it's a given that roids offer a better overall result. Sarms can and do offer something more so for those needing a break from roids for example

 

[Eddie Haskell]

The comment was 'not NEARLY as effective'. I think it's a given that roids offer a better overall result. Sarms can and do offer something more so for those needing a break from roids for example

Thank you so much, Mobster.


Moving on...

 

[stevesmi]

any PED is only as effective as genetics, diet, and training allows

most guys who use steroids look like shit.. that is a fact. if every person posted pics of themselves on any steroid forum they wouldn't even look like they lift or they would have guts.

with that respect i've never understood how guys argue about any PED's effectiveness as if they are magic pills when they most definitely are not.

 

[muskate]

any PED is only as effective as genetics, diet, and training allows

most guys who use steroids look like shit.. that is a fact. if every person posted pics of themselves on any steroid forum they wouldn't even look like they lift or they would have guts.

with that respect i've never understood how guys argue about any PED's effectiveness as if they are magic pills when they most definitely are not.

This is the sad reality ^^^^

I get people who reach out to me for coaching on a daily basis who are running grams of gear but barely look like they lift weights.

Steroids are not a quick fix. There is no magic pill or drug