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Is their a limit to how much test your body can utilize? For example.. a 250lb male taking 3000mg of test / wk. Would he see any benefit from that dose more then 1000/wk?
It's gets very murky. You start with all the other genetics we need - bone size, muscle insertion and so on. Then you could have the whole 'receptor' debate. Do those weighing 250lbs (or having the potential to) have more than those weighing 200lbs or less? I've trained with, competed against and are buddies with a bunch of very tall and real heavy strongmen. Like 100lbs heavier than me.
I don't think the receptor argument is enough. I KNOW for a fact that more than a few of them use a LOT less than many bodybuilders. Equally, I also know really good bodybuilders who use less than those who aren't that good. It's the 'reason' why those who aren't genetically blessed use to take more gear. But genetics wins every time.
I don't think the receptor argument is enough. I KNOW for a fact that more than a few of them use a LOT less than many bodybuilders. Equally, I also know really good bodybuilders who use less than those who aren't that good. It's the 'reason' why those who aren't genetically blessed use to take more gear. But genetics wins every time.
It depends too on how your body metabolizes the compounds. Some guys get 3000+ test levels at 500mg/week. Some get 1800 at that same dose. The better your body can metabolize a compound and raise both total test and free test levels the less you will need to get substantial results.
In my opinion though I would never go over 500mg/week of test. If you cant get great results at that level then as opposed to going to a higher dose id rather stack another compound like primo, deca, eq, etc.
In my opinion though I would never go over 500mg/week of test. If you cant get great results at that level then as opposed to going to a higher dose id rather stack another compound like primo, deca, eq, etc.
if you have a headache should you take 1 advil or take 20 advils.. i mean 10 is more right? so you should have quicker and better results taking 20 right? of course not. when you use steroids you want to use them smartly, not just take as much as you can. it gets to the point where it becomes counter productive both financially and healthwise to take too much
Yes. Increase of dosing and size gains are not directly correlated. At some point your body is gonna reach that saturation point.
In addition there are huge differences on how different individuals respond to gear and what I've seen some more unfortunate simply need to use a lot more to see similar results.
In addition there are huge differences on how different individuals respond to gear and what I've seen some more unfortunate simply need to use a lot more to see similar results.
just remember to never fall for the trap of more is always better... especially when it comes to steroids
Hollywood305
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I agree with all this...however let me play devils advocate real quick. What about a guy like Dallas McCarver RIP who openly disclosed he used 3-4G a week of test, or guys like Chris Everett (i think thats his name) who was very stern on his success taking 10 Anadrol a day. My question is would Dallas be the size he was taking say 700mg pw? All things being equal...this is a very good topic
Genetics and where exactly did it get him health wise? You also dont know everything he was doing not to mention that high doses cause high sides which mean you have a harder time keeping gains.
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There will always be the law of diminished returns. Its just like a race car. If you take a car from 100hp to 200hp there is a HUGE difference. 200hp to 400hp is still a pretty damn big difference in times. Go from 400 to 600hp and the difference is less than a second. Then to go from a 600hp car to 1000hp it's even less. Down to tenths of a second. See where I'm going with this? The cost of increased horsepower (I'm a car guy and this analogy just works) versus reward becomes not worth it at a point. The same goes for aas dosages.
Hollywood305
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So clearly he had a superior genetic advantage to start with...so would the 3G of test then not make him bigger than 700mg would? I personally dont think so but someone coached him into doing it i assume
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What about Street Outlaws lol...3500HP on the street although i like No Prep Kings better
Im not a psychic but what good did it do him? I really dont think this is a good comparison considering what happened to him. Im going to leave this alone and stop responding. Its just uncomfortable and i dont think it was good to wven bring up
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Hollywood305
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Fair enough...i didnt mean any disrespect
Ok switch over to the dude on here...that dan garcia bro...he said hes using 4g of test pw and 100mg of anadrol ed...its on the swole thread outlawv2 started.
Dude is jacked but i dont understand the massive amounts of test
Thats something to ask the person doing it. To me thats just absolutely absurd but its not my life. I prefer to live as long as possible and teach people how to do the same... people are free to do as they want.
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straightnasty
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I'd like to respond , I think its pretty simple . I'ts extremely unhealthy at that high of a dose but 1000% its gonna def get you bigger than 700mg but at a certain extent also it will be too much and just even out 3000/3500/4000 etc. But to answer the original question same human /same genetics etc you will put on more size with 3000mgs than 700mgs. Also prob be 6ft under a lot sooner too .
Right so what good would it be? I guess if you dont give a fuck about your life then ok but thats about as ignorant of a thing to do than anything hence the point i made of more not being better. It also sets a fucked up example for people trying to learn. Not to mention the ridiculous amount of estrogen conversion which also poses the question of quality of size
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Hollywood305
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I concur...
So in summary its a crap shoot? Just keep upping the dose and watch ur levels via bloodwork?
I still dont understand 1 thing, does test levels of 5000 vs 1800 generate more muscle? or generate muscle faster?
And if so why not build up to that crazy high dose? If your gonna run 4g anyway at least start off low...idk
Again its a person to person basis right...no real clean cut definitive answer
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Edit::::straightnasty mentioned the gains increase at a very high price
Sure a higher level can get more size but as ive pointed out a million times and this is the final time, at what cost. Thats not healthy to do so what exactly would the point even be. I dont know im not getting through here and what im saying is not resonating so instead of saying something further, i will stop and hope anyone thats just learning here will see the stupidity in that kind of abusive use... i mean, gor fucks sake. If u cant gain a ton on even 500 mg per week then something is clearly wrong. Just because u could gain more going higher, whats the point if it can hurt you in such a bad way... its just ridiculous. Anyway hopefully youll get whatever it is from this your looking for. Its starting to just cause me aggravation i dont need nor want. Good luck
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Hollywood305
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Jesus christ i just wanted to know how the bodys receptors would react...and if there is any point to running that high of a dose other than an uneducated "more is better" meathead reason. When did i condone or encourage this? Apparently asking questions and seeking knowledge is frowned upon if it disagrees with someones personal belifes. Not everything is a morality issue sometimes science is just science
Ok mr sensitive. I said a million times you would get bigger but what exactly was the point and u just went on and in and on. Im not sure how many times i can give u the same answer... run a million mg a week if need be... Clearly youll get bigger and in the process youll life will get shorter and youll have far bigger sides that completely outweigh the bigger gain... If you drink more alcohol youll get more wasted too etc. you could say it with a million things dude. Its not about personal beliefs lmfaooo... its about facts which we have all SEEN happen to others! How is that a personal belief. Ask whatever you want whenever you want. You just wont always get the exact answer you want. How would you prefer i answer it man? You tell me and ill answer however u want if that makes it better. You ask me a lot of questions and i answer every last thing u ask me every single time, in detail but i can answer how u want if thats how it needs to be too... ive been extra helpful to u dude. I dont go back and forth with people like i have with you ... my assumption is u come to me for honesty but sometimes people dont really want that type of answer
I can tell u this. You ask a question like this, im not giving some generic dip shit answer and just say yes without giving the FACTS about what comes with it. If it were an opinion, i would say that. Its not just a belief nor an opinion. I care about the people reading this and getting the wrong idea
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Hollywood305
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Maybe i should have asked WHY would the body grow bigger on 4G vs 750mg...at some point dont all the receptors get used? Would you have to consume more food? Wont the saturation taper off? All things i cant find on google that are cemented in facts. I figured asking on here was my best bet. The whole point of my question was for information purposes only. Clearly the price of death isnt worth it...no 1 on here who posts regularly would run a gram plus a week imo.
Hollywood305
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And thats admirable and i applaud you for that. You of course if you take more test youll grow bigger...i dont know why that is so i kept persisting on why someone would. I honestly dont know why 2000g vs 750mg is going to be more effective for size. Obviously health risks are extreamly more pertenant and not worth it
The only answer i have is the meathead mentality man. Thats just the way a lot of guys think. They dont give two fucks about ANYTHING but “ getting big” by whatever means necessary, no matter the cost etc
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Hollywood305
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Yea i see that shit at my gym too
