Actually leaning out is a good thing, its a recomp. @toddthelineman is correct.im not trying toI need to eat more
Have a protein bar after a meal like that next time.
@Rurx7
im not trying to
curious to see how you like GHK. i've been reading about it for a year. but never tried it yet @Rurx7
I guess your right, it will make it harder to notice the differences from GHKCU. I will just hope its doing something I suppose. Its not expensive so its fine if the effect is minimal
Ill keep everyone updated. So far its just a little prolonged sting on my first injection, my second had no sting. That was 1mg dose, im going to up it to 2mg from now on.
Good idea. I wanna see him tighten up more
okay keep us updated
rear delt fly and rope tricep pulldown is amazing @Rurx7 training overall is looking good. keep the push going
bros .. good update on starting your GHK. the stinging from the bac water? or the stinging from the peptide itself? @Rurx7
bro i like finish with the rope work. lots of things you can do with ropes on ranch. @Rurx7 can pump it up nicely
Heard of this compound just never used it
It’s a big one for collagen synthesis. Goes good with bpc and tb500. Mostly used for skin. I think it’s really good for hair too
great work on this one. @Rurx7 the rear delt fly is on point. and i love the rope tricep pulldowns too
rope tricep pulldown sets and reps is on point. rear delt fly is on point. the standing multiflight is also looking good! @Rurx7
If you can afford it, I think you should spend your money on RF micro-needling instead of peptides - you’re young so you’ll get good results within 3-4 sessions. Get it done via a reputable provider who uses a top-of-the-line machine. If that doesn’t work or you’ve got ‘ice pick’ acne scaring, I would opt for Fractional laser (like CO2). Supplement dietary collagen post having these procedures for 8-10 weeks at least. Drinking 4–5L of water daily and a diet free of dairy and sugar will reduce inflammation and the development of new acne, but it won’t fix the PIE from recent acne, or the scars. It wouldn’t hurt to use a topical/ prescription retinoid overnight and a Hypochlorous Acid spray for regular cleaning and disinfection - get a few bottles and keep one in your gym bag, bathroom, car & spray acne prone areas regularly to prevent infection/ flare-ups.
thanks guys
not sure, but I havent experienced it since. It only happened the first time. My theory is that the needle may have been slightly damaged as I tried to put the cap back on it to keep it sanitary but put pressed the needle against the closed side. this may have microscopically blunted the needle, causing stinging?
tbh its easier just to pin ghk every morning. if this doesnt work ill try those, but they're a lot more effort, cost and time. I dont get acne anymore because of isotretinoin, so its just about reducing scarring.
bros maybe. use a fresh needlethanks guys
not sure, but I havent experienced it since. It only happened the first time. My theory is that the needle may have been slightly damaged as I tried to put the cap back on it to keep it sanitary but put pressed the needle against the closed side. this may have microscopically blunted the needle, causing stinging?
tbh its easier just to pin ghk every morning. if this doesnt work ill try those, but they're a lot more effort, cost and time. I dont get acne anymore because of isotretinoin, so its just about reducing scarring.
@Rurx7 Training looks good.......
@Rurx7 way to keep it consistent man you’re definitely putting in the work. Can’t wait to see where it takes you
The training is good I do like you put in the volume, but the food Pizza and KFC, thats the cause of your acne and skin issues fyi. It's the root of the problem, can you try to meal prep to swap this out of your diet? @Rurx7
pizza was from a work party, kfc was cause my whole family was getting it. its a bit more difficult to completely get it out of my diet but it has been significantly reduced. yep I have. I use one of those fortnightly pill's things that I take everynight, one of them is probiotics.
When I was carnivore, it was soooo socially awkward. It’s hard to decline food like that and nobody wants to be like a vegan making everyone have to plan their eating around your diet. Explaining it makes it worse because everybody has to have their say, despite complete lack of qualifications.
ill start monday. tomorrow is a bit difficult because of fathers day
Oh Australian Father’s Day is different? Cool
a problem ive found with bulking is that im really addicted to food. once I stop it takes toooonnnsss of effort not to keep going. im like a crack adict but for sugar. do you recon I could take reta and then just try to eat as much as possible. get like 250g+ of protein in a day to build muscle, and the reta will make me less prone to eat bad foods? is this plan as stupid as I feel typing it????
Well you’re 18, so you’re hungry! I’m not too sure Reta is the move for you because you would be eating significantly less, but getting the right food is already tricky for you, if you eat less but when you do eat it’s not ideal, you could find yourself in a bad spot. I also have a sweet tooth, and just like you if I start eating sweets I don’t stop. The best move for you, if you can, would be to fill up so much on meat that you don’t really have room for anything else. That works for me. And you can eat slower carbs like potatoes and you may find your cravings are less, I would try each of those strategies separately. It takes time to reduce your cravings, so some willpower is involved. But keep your eyes on the prize. You can do it.
Your family goes to KFC? well you should try to get the chicken and only eat the breast peel off the fatty skin and crisp.
I wouldn't change for now, you will likely not enjoy the peptides in time, lets stay with a pre peptide log for now.
i kinda enjoy it tbh. its odly satisfying
Yep. We know
You will feel better and better as you train more and track your food, it will change your life, trust us
@Rurx7 EVO family supports you!
Very well. Of course we would talk about it, but it will still help your log ultimately so it would be better if you tried to log it. You know, things won’t always be the same, so to be able to look back will come in very handy in the future. You’ll be training for many years.
Training too high volume, we need to talk about dropping 1 set or so.
which one??Training too high volume, we need to talk about dropping 1 set or so.
Nice Chest workout Bru
All dont overtrain.
Drop 1 set of shrugs and 2sets face bulls, increase pull ups to 5 sets.
should I be pushing to absolute failure in that case if im doing less volume. rn im getting very close to failure.
You should be pushing natty exercises push ups pull ups more to 100.
@Rurx7 you are doing a great job on this! the food is amazing. keep up the nice work
@Rurx7 dinner is looking good! and nice work on the snacks and other things.. overall i'm impressed
@Rurx7 bro that a lot of berries. nice. you pumping some good training. i got mad love for it
the pullups look good if you ask me. its all a good layout too on the food. @Rurx7 looking really good man!
assisted pullups is a good option. blueberries and raspberries actually sound pretty good. good anti oxidants @Rurx7
bros EVO family appreciates your hard work. you pushing some good training @Rurx7 i like the food and iron strength
Excellent work
@Rurx7 awesome log and work out right here!
@Rurx7 Good detailed updates.........
@Rurx7 nice update glad to see it. Keep after it.
uuhhh its mainly just copy and paste slop. I stopped bothering to log it cause im either just eating protein shakes and protein bars of my meat slop things.hows your food these days?
You should not stop, you need to log it, it's going to make a huge long term difference and if it's just protein shakes and bars should take you 10min to record it @Rurx7
I’m going to purchase a travelling scale to make it a bit easier. Rn I’m just guessing weights for things like work lunches or parents meals and I give up by dinner time most days
I know I have to log food
Yesterday:
Pull-ups:
3
Assisted pull-ups:
21 for 8
19 for 8
19 for 6
Tbar row:
30 for 8
30 for 7
30 for 6
Shrugs:
32.5 for 11
32.5 for 11
Barbell bicep curl:
30 for 9
30 for 7
Rope machine hammer curl:
16 for 12
20 for 8
Sit-ups:
35 (could have gotten more but thigh cramp)
how much cardio these days?
your plan is fine for testing response, 1mg dac twice a week paired with nightly 300mcg ipa will give you a solid feel of how your sleep, recovery, and fullness respond. 2 weeks is enough to notice if it’s doing something, then you can decide if it’s worth running longer. keep expectations realistic, it won’t hit like gh but it can help with recovery and body comp if diet and training are tight.
Typically around 2-3km each day at a running pace.
Ok that was my thoughts exactly for the gh secretagogue. So far ghkcu has been treating me well, I’ve gotten the “glow” that people describe. I’ve also seen that my skin has tightened slightly. Thanks for the bubble info
You feeling better? mentally? @Rurx7
Worse. I’m mentally exhausted from everything. Workouts have felt worse. Only good part was subq every morning and the ghkcu results
Getting stronger! You’ll be hitting 12-15 pull-ups after a while. By the time you can do that, you’ll look different in a shirt. It’ll be noticeable to everyoneI know I have to log food
Yesterday:
Pull-ups:
3
Assisted pull-ups:
21 for 8
19 for 8
19 for 6
Tbar row:
30 for 8
30 for 7
30 for 6
Shrugs:
32.5 for 11
32.5 for 11
Barbell bicep curl:
30 for 9
30 for 7
Rope machine hammer curl:
16 for 12
20 for 8
Sit-ups:
35 (could have gotten more but thigh cramp)
Most everyone has accidentally shot a little bubble here and there. I’ve done it a few times. Never did matter at all. I don’t usually have tiny bubbles though
That means your diet is off, I suspected as much when you're not sharing your food log. @Rurx7 you need to increase food and show us what you're eating.
is it mainly fear mongering the stuff about insulin resistance and gh secretogogues? my dose is fairly light considering the others ive seen online on forum boards. should I be getting a glucose meter for this cycle or is that stupid?
it might be the syringes taht im using? im just using the top ones on amazon, but im going to experiment with other options next time I order.Most everyone has accidentally shot a little bubble here and there. I’ve done it a few times. Never did matter at all. I don’t usually have tiny bubbles though
A lot of the insulin resistance talk with secretagogues gets blown up online, especially when people are running big doses for long stretches. At a lighter dose like you’re on, the risk is way lower, though everyone’s tolerance is different. A cheap glucose meter isn’t stupid at all, it can give you peace of mind and let you spot if fasting numbers creep up, but really what we need to see is you sharing a food log please. @Rurx7
Ok Ill get the food log for today. About the blood glucose monitor, are the ones that dont prick you, are they trash? I've seen some bad reviews and im unsure how it could tell my blood glucose without getting my blood. Currently im looking at the one that I've attached in the link below. Is this one find (Ie do you use a similar one for your glucose monitoring, and or how do you do it?)
all good, I used the share function on amazon cause the link at the top of the bar was enormous for some reason. its in AUD so its $40 USD
what values of fasted glucose should I start to be worried about?
Doesn’t really apply for you, but just to share my own experience, when I was carnivore, my blood glucose was exactly 86, every single time. I felt really good, looked really good. Even now, I take gh and secretagogues interchangeably, and sometimes eat 1000 g carbs or more, I have never seen my fasting bg over 100.
do you think I should do 1mg per week of cjc w dac? google says that, that is a normal beginner cycle but chat is telling me its an aggressive cycle.
Well I have never used it. No harm in starting low
I doubt you'll go that low tbh dont worry lets start the food intake logging more deep first.
Personally, I would carb load the day before with something like rice or pasta, and I would not overdo fast carbs that day. Have some, sure, but too much would make me lethargic. Your immediate energy shooooould be coming from your cells, not your stomach, if you are functioning well metabolically. If you can’t function well without fast carbs then you’ll just have to do it, but that’s a sign of poor health that you’ll want to improve as that will directly affect every single thing about you as an organism and your goals. An easy comparison is how cats get the zoomies when they are hungry.
Good work getting pull-ups in first, that sets the tone even before the assisted sets. Tbar rows and curls at those weights show you’re pushing strength while still keeping decent reps, and shrugs with 32.5s will keep traps growing. Finish with sit-ups keeps the core tight, overall a solid pull session.
Higher carbs will help in AM, protein shake with an energy drink (sugar free).
good job on this one. the grilled steak looks outstanding. great work on that @Rurx7
Im gonna carb load the night before with berries etc and then in the morning ill have some fast acting carbs then.
most days
I’m far from an expert on this, but that does seem oddly low if you consider mine was 86 while eating zero carbs. I’m not too sure trying to manipulate that with gh stuff is the move until you have more data
A recurring theme for people that I’ve suggested trying a zero carb diet is that they feel hypoglycemic very quickly and need sugar all the time. This can be corrected with some willpower by fasting or eating zero carbs, but you would have to power through it until your liver starts making glucose and then you would feel steady all the time and at some point would be able to eat carbs without being dependent on them. You need more data, because if you are insulin resistant (I suspect you are because of your reading and because of your eating habits) the gh stuff will exacerbate this, maybe not dangerously but you are young. You would need to nip this in the bud
Im thinking it may be because I pushed myself really hard on cardio yesterday night after dinner, and then didn't refuel except for a musashi protein drink that has low carbs. itl be a while until I get the gh anyway as I havent placed the order, doing the pre-testing right now.
if my glucose is low, doesnt that mean that im too insulin sensitive?
Not necessarily. It’s just a snapshot in time. That’s why you need more data. Also, I’m far from an authority on this. I can tell you that when someone is very low or zero carb for extended periods, they become extremely insulin sensitive, but I have not seen someone in that context have numbers like that. I’m close with two other people (real friends in real life) who were carnivore for 90 days after seeing what I had done. Both of them achieved really good body composition and for all of us, carbing up when you are in that state causes the muscles to swell noticeably. Insulin sensitivity isn’t static and it isn’t uniform throughout the body. In some states, insulin will only drive energy into fat cells, in other conditions insulin with drive energy directly into the muscle. It’s as complicated as you are willing to research. The deeper you go, the more complicated it becomes, until you are at the cutting edge of science where things are not fully understood
I'd get up earlier than usual and eat oats!
@Rurx7 this is an outstanding run. the dinner and lunch is looking strong. keep up the good work
bro good work on this. @rurx the lunch and dinner on point. love this one
@Rurx7 good mix of training and food. i like the lunch. keeping it simple and getting your protein
this one looks good if you ask me. the dinner and lunch is on point. i love the hard work @Rurx7
bros looking good on this one @Rurx7 the steak and beef is on point. i love seeing it all
Please stop using chatgpt as your guide, it's a robot not a person. Your glucose is fine just eat after. @Rurx7
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