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I totally missed this message the other day sorry man. I got your points though thanks bro, but think I've replied in other ways since then so I won't spam you again
I really liked the podcast interview, well done bro
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You're eating good
I know 2 scoops a bit but go for it if you can mix it in drink it. You need max protein now.
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They're not perfect but looks like you got clean ones which is good
Day 20: Pills and Powders
And injections for breakfast
Things are changing diet wise, this reta really is something else. It's only been 5 days but it's completely changed how I view what I can physically even eat. If I can find the right dose and frequency I think I can make this work to achieve my goals of losing my beer gut and bitch tits. There's two more days until I start EOD shots and I might wait till then to decide weather to try EOD shots equivalent to 2mg a week or to half the dose to 1mg a week since I seem to be very sensitive to it.And injections for breakfast
Previously was aiming for as much meat as possible and always prioritise fatty cuts and eat the fat first, like the early carnivore writers like Vilhjalmur Stefansson were doing. Carnivore was easy for me to understand, you just eat tons of fat and your body adapts to using that as fuel source. I've done it a good few times and it works good and is very simple.
I added butter to things (even coffee) and drank two litres of full-fat milk a day if I could afford it. That's over for now, I had half a cup of instant coffee which I guess had 80ml of milk maybe and that sat rotting in my guts all morning. I forget exactly what he said but @stevesmi said reta punishes you for eating the wrong things and I now see what he was saying.
Even when I had no money and haven't eaten for days I always tried to get milk for coffee. I don't care what kind of coffee but the milk was how I was able to drink it all day, else it would upset my stomach after a few.
So Basically the situation with coffee has reversed... I had six or so cups of instant coffee no milk yesterday, like an AA meeting where the coffee guy relapsed and you have to tuck into the sachets.
I don't know how I feel about this. My parents started letting me drink coffee unrestricted at 12 and I can remember the four days I've had without since, my first two days living in Japan in 2005 before I found out green tea was full of it, and the two days I was in a coma. Even missing a morning u start getting a headache. I am totally physically addicted to it. But some how this one slides in our society and it's easy to overlook because it's usually so easy to acquire.
I'll write more about my coffee plans when I figure them out.
For now though, the Homeless-Man Preworkout
2 is a 15g scoop of powder with 15g of protein. More than the milk I used to use but lacking in other areas, like consistentcy and ability to stay in liquid form with a heaped teaspoon of 1, store-brand instant coffee in a Nestlé jar so the chicks think I'm a man of sophisticated taste. 3 is not a good enough vessel, this crap needs shaking and stirring, even with boiled water base.
200mg of caffeine and 15g of protein
With the retatrutide I really feel like I can run with anything now and will be able to loose my titties if I stay on the path. I am known for choosing simple diets then making them complicated. Analysis paralysis gets worse the more free time you have. But then @LevButlerov sent a message at just the right time:
And that's what I've been doing in the days since. I got a bag of supermarket whey until I can get the one HarleyGuy picked out for me that's unflavoured. The stuff I got needs 60g of powder to get 60g of protein which is too much to dissolve with stirring. Gotta get a blender.
Also got down 5 eggs
And of course the staple:
Averaging eight and a half hours sleep too. And trying to cut down on walking but lightest day was 18k steps, want to do 12 max to hopefully stop getting sore ankles all the time.
Yeah I ended up getting LDS (low dead space) needles. Was losing 0.05mL each time.
Interesting bro, my friend who's into lifting recommended what I think is the same, the ones that don't lock right? I'll get more but here's the last one I had is this similar to what you mean?
So, idk if anyone had to have their limbs amputated from doing this, but I draw until the syringe is full, change the tip to a smaller one, pin my dose, draw back, then put a fresh drawing tip on and put the whole syringe in the fridge(insulin cooler, in my case). I’ve probably done this a couple thousand times and never got so much as an irritation at the injection site. I don’t think I’m losing much, as long as it gets drawn back.
This is what I was talking about:
The syringe connection goes between the outer bit and that stem bit. Effectively leaves no gap in the needle. I measured the loss as about 0.01 compared to 0.05.
Hah thanks for sharing that bro... I used to have a girlfriend who would have half a
Sounds like your still using a fresh tip per injection still.. How come you do it like that man?
It's not that bad really. Changing the tip would be it, otherwise it's in the needle barrel and in the fridge. It's bad doing this with IV because the needle is a two-way street, you need to pull blood into the syringe to see if you've registered the needle in a vein, so then sticking that in the fridge the blood would curdle and fuck all your drugs up but that's not the same as what's happening here.
I just looked these insulin bags you mentioned, and Dave also bought them up the other day and I haven't heard of them. I should try get one I think.
Awesome bro that's perfect! 0.01 is an acceptable loss.. I will go to the needle exchange tomorrow and get them. Thanks for the terminology too, that makes a big difference here haha. Thanks bro that's a massive help
Well. It saves a lot of time, and I use luerlocks, so if I was drawing and pinning individual doses, like you said, I would wind up wasting a lot. I was using a lot of peptides and hgh and I just figure I’m not drawing back while it’s in my skin. I’m pretty careful and methodical while I’m pinning.
Fair enough bro! I don't think there's anything wrong at all. Without the tip change there would be a little bit of bacteria on the tip that could contaminate it potentially but in reality that's unlikely in the fridge, and pretty much a non-issue if you change the tips. Wasting that much of HGH would be crazy too, dunno if it's just my part of the world but that shit is way to expensive here to be throwing it away carelessly.
Yeah. I had had a bad experience with “cheap” hgh. It gave me really high blood pressure and water retention And even affected my erections, so I was only getting medical hgh like norditropin pens and serostim and such. You can spend $1000/month easily and it’s very very awesome but you have to take it for a long time for it to be transformative. Like I took it consistently for so long I was visibly reverse aging. Of course I was doing everything I could think of at that time. I wish I was up in here back then, when I had more time and resources.
Wow damn man that is expensive. Better than fucking up your dick tho, money will come again. I'm really interested in HGH and want to experiment with it in the future.
A guy I know who's now dead said he wishes he had stuck to bio-identical substances like testosterone and human growth hormone and since he fucked himself up with other steriods in the end that always stuck with me. I'm not sure how realistic that line of thinking is but it 'sounds good' to me.
Yeah man me too.. though things seem simple in retrospect, I tried a few times, even built a full home gym in a 20-ft shipping container once but ultimately it's incompatible with drinking and drug use and I chose those things instead. As reckless as I have been in the past substances I knew that there was no point getting into steriods until I stopped. I was surrounded by them all throughout my life too, I could have got them. My good friend has been using them for 2p years, and I lived in the mecca for that shit in Australia but glad I didn't try until now.
Still a huge fan of these verbose write ups about your day
Always makes me wish I was an egg person, I don't think I could do 5 eggs in a sitting pre-reta
Thanks bro, I appreciate that - I'm going to continue just had a rocky past few days adjusting to the reta but I'm gonna try and make it work, I can see the benefits for sure. It feels like I could design a diet on paper and just stick to it, which would have been pretty unlikely otherwise.Still a huge fan of these verbose write ups about your day
How did you go when you started on it? Most people said it'd be more like a month before noticing affects.
Ahh that's a bugger bro, my mum is like that too. She managed to make keto work but not having eggs available makes things tricky. She only does one or two a week mixed into other stuff.
I'm going to experiment with getting egg whites into these shakes, I'll let you know if I find any good tricks to get them down. Learning how to separate them still haha.
Technically only my first 3 days on currently, first pin was 14/9.
Pretty sure it's messed up my guts a touch but feels like it's passing, unsure if it's too soon and i'm psyching myself out over it but I don't feel like I get a sharp hunger pang more of a dull pressure if I think about it a lot.
Oh I see, I had some battery issues due to not going to the gym to charge them and am a bit behind on people's logs and I didn't catch that sorry bro.
We're basically in the same boat, I started last Friday with one 2mg dose, so on Day 6. I think I wrote a log entry every day execpt Saturday which I didn't eat anything at all. I felt like I had an abnormally quick reaction but maybe not.
Based on advice the from @LevButlerov and @Dave1288499 you can see in my log thread I decided to switch to every other day injections and was going to wait until Friday and decide if I'm going to stick with 2mg a week or half to 1mg. I'm stoked it's working for sure and really think I can make it work but I need to find a new balance.
If I can get the dose right I think it'll be a godsend. I've always had these exact same tits, no matter how much I drank or how little I ate, they remained. Never growing and never shrinking. They haven't held me back with girls surprisingly but mentally they do. I have accepted most things about myself but I need to get rid of them and my beer gut too, it's been two years since I quit drinking I shouldn't have it anymore.
I hope the reta works out for your bro and be interesting to watch while I'm trying the same thing =)
Keep it up bro
Thanks bro, sorry I've been quiet this week. I power my entire digital world from the one power outlet in the locker room at the gym so if I miss a day everything goes flat haha. Hope you're doing alright man, I'd be keen for a chat on Friday night if you're free =)
I'll be Friday, I've been quiet myself I'll do a post tonight to show what the go is but I've been passing out at 8pm I haven't argued with any Holocaust deniers today
Sweet bro, good plan on the log entry =]
I've also been sleeping a lot, eight and a half hours on average the past week, some ten hour sleeps tho and day 3 on reta I got up and had milk and it didn't digest and I ended up going back to sleep for an hour or so.
I read your log good one on the sleeps, oh try trim milk it's like lite but one step further
Bro's making potions, love it, careful if its boiling water an glass
This is where I landed today between three shakes, two eggs and an apple. I really need to get whey that's 30g a scoop so four scoops is 120g, 4 scoops of this one is less than 50g... what's the best brand you've used?
I usually buy whey isolate because I digest better. I like raw because it's the easiest on my stomach but it is expensive for what you get, I'll try that brand you mentioned I just need to double check how much concentrate is in it
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Protean levels are perfect for you
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Reta is clearly shifting the way you look at food and coffee, sensitivity is showing fast so testing a lower dose first sounds smarter than pushing higher right away. Cutting out the milk and sticking with black coffee will probably help digestion a lot while you ride this phase out. You’ve already got protein covered with the whey and eggs, keep it simple there so you don’t overthink. Sleep and steps are solid too, dialing the walking back a bit will give your ankles time to recover while everything else keeps moving forward.
Reta is clearly shifting the way you look at food and coffee, sensitivity is showing fast so testing a lower dose first sounds smarter than pushing higher right away. Cutting out the milk and sticking with black coffee will probably help digestion a lot while you ride this phase out. You’ve already got protein covered with the whey and eggs, keep it simple there so you don’t overthink. Sleep and steps are solid too, dialing the walking back a bit will give your ankles time to recover while everything else keeps moving forward.
Thanks man your advice has been invaluable in these changes. Honestly if you'd sent me that message about focusing on getting the shakes sorted and not worrying about other stuff before I started on reta I would have thought you were crazy. But the reta really did change everything and I'm going ahead with the shakes plan and it's working out great.
Without the reta though I don't think it would be possible. I don't like food beyond nutrition, I have never sought it out for pleasure and hate going to restaurants and shit like that but even still, my body would have made me do things differently than this, it's pretty amazing.
I'm not going to go up higher in dose but am deciding weather to stay at the same dose or cut it in half.
Now I've got a plan around the shakes and diet I think I'll try the same dose but EOD shots like you recommended, I think it will work well.
I'm not sick or uncomfortable but just adjusting to it and figuring out new limits.
I agree keeping it simple is the way to go. I will make absolute certian that I have whey and eggs every week before I get anything else. I can manage that. And the milk has been abandoned already, but that was reta's idea not mine.
I honestly thought I couldn't live without it due to being so addicted to coffee and needing the milk to settle the coffee, but the reta also changed that so the same stomach problem is not happening anymore.. I've had about 6 black instant coffees today and my stomach is fine... apart from still being full after the 2nd shake half an hour ago.
You really gotta watch your intake on reta, if you miscalculate and eat even slightly too much, you feel almost 'over-full' and it lasts for an hour sometimes. I'm used to just opening my throat and pouring or shovelling whatever in, I don't want to taste it or spend time with it, but that's not how the reta wants to do it so I have to adapt to it.
I did some experiments this morning and in the first shake I added 4 egg whites and that was good but was a pain in the ass to do and made a mess, the 2nd shake I just cracked the 4 eggs whole into it and it was fine. Also had an apple an hour before the gym
If the GI unease scales I'm glad I only started on 1mg until my body has a chance to wrap it's head around what i've decided to do to it.
I saw good things about daily/more frequent dosing before starting and jumping into my usage but first time ever dealing with needles and kinda wanted to see how my body would react to them/if I could get over my needle fear before committing to something more frequent.
You too brother
as long as we stay the course we should hit our goals with ease with the additional backing of the evo crew Being a heavy lad for life I already struggle with body dismorphia/struggle to see in the mirror any changes or the work i've put in so far so thankfully I sucked it up early on and did a 360 video and some poses I can look back on and compare to where I am now even if it's not a body I'm proud of yet.
(oops, bless Lev for the ping on this response since it somehow dodged my notifications)
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That’s a good call sticking with the same dose of retatrutide but moving to EOD shots, it’ll keep things steady without pushing higher. Shakes with whey and eggs as the base will cover your protein no problem, and dropping milk was the right adjustment since it was messing with your stomach before. Black coffee sitting fine now shows how much your body is adapting on this compound. You’re right about the “over-full” feeling, just pacing the shakes and simple food like the apple before training will make it easier to manage. @vanlife_gymbumThanks man your advice has been invaluable in these changes. Honestly if you'd sent me that message about focusing on getting the shakes sorted and not worrying about other stuff before I started on reta I would have thought you were crazy. But the reta really did change everything and I'm going ahead with the shakes plan and it's working out great.
Without the reta though I don't think it would be possible. I don't like food beyond nutrition, I have never sought it out for pleasure and hate going to restaurants and shit like that but even still, my body would have made me do things differently than this, it's pretty amazing.
I'm not going to go up higher in dose but am deciding weather to stay at the same dose or cut it in half.
Now I've got a plan around the shakes and diet I think I'll try the same dose but EOD shots like you recommended, I think it will work well.
I'm not sick or uncomfortable but just adjusting to it and figuring out new limits.
I agree keeping it simple is the way to go. I will make absolute certian that I have whey and eggs every week before I get anything else. I can manage that. And the milk has been abandoned already, but that was reta's idea not mine.
I honestly thought I couldn't live without it due to being so addicted to coffee and needing the milk to settle the coffee, but the reta also changed that so the same stomach problem is not happening anymore.. I've had about 6 black instant coffees today and my stomach is fine... apart from still being full after the 2nd shake half an hour ago.
You really gotta watch your intake on reta, if you miscalculate and eat even slightly too much, you feel almost 'over-full' and it lasts for an hour sometimes. I'm used to just opening my throat and pouring or shovelling whatever in, I don't want to taste it or spend time with it, but that's not how the reta wants to do it so I have to adapt to it.
I did some experiments this morning and in the first shake I added 4 egg whites and that was good but was a pain in the ass to do and made a mess, the 2nd shake I just cracked the 4 eggs whole into it and it was fine. Also had an apple an hour before the gym
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Hey all - I just returned from my day working on the ship, there's a severe weather warning & red alert for windspeed. Last time this happened nobody came to the gym so maybe it'll be all mine tonight. It's been getting more and more packed each night, the word is getting out. No groups of teenage boys pointing at nothing on each other's shirtless prepubescent bodies in the middle of the gym though so could be worse.
I've made some solid investments this week and am now broke. Laying the foundations for the next phase of consistent dieting - namely my new portable battery powered blender:
After a day of experiments with varying degrees of success I only have enough powder for one 2-scoop shake a day and no eggs. I am going to have to get more/different powder this dole day though. Two bags of the supermarket one I have would be $100 or a whole third of my weekly income so I should give it some thought, I was hoping to budget $60 for eggs now I've learnt to drink them, which would get me 90 from the farmers market.
Diet has otherwise been the same the past few days
I started putting salt into the tuna cans and it's good, could have got a third one down last night but thought I'd better save it for another day.
I would usually be pretty worried being this far out with so little food but I've been listening to a bunch of older podcast episodes lately where @stevesmi teaches us about fasting. He also has a log/thread where he lays out research and studies into fasting, talks a bit about how the middle eastern lifters have incorporated fasting from their cultural practices into their training too to great result. Stevesmi's fasting thread is here:
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...ld-more-muscle-and-my-prolong-fast-log.81856/
Monday and Tuesday seem like great days to experiment with that, and that also means I don't need to do anything about not having any money for food which suits me perfectly. Thanks Steve =)
I appear to be out of instant coffee though, that might be a bigger issue. If that goes south I can always go to the ship and have one.
I now have the blender, I've run the experiments and figured out how to drink eggs. I'm ready to start consistently doing this on Wednesday once restocked in powder & eggs.
The entry I didn't post on Thursday was photos and text of my whole day spent learning how to separate eggs whites which I'd never done before and various ways to make shakes up with just a cup and a spoon as tools but it was all for nothing because just cracking four whole eggs in and blending comes out perfectly nice. Nothing to share came of it so I just didn't post. I ended up throwing out all the egg yolks I'd saved in my pot during this unfortunately, and about 300g of left over beef mince. I couldn't face them over a two day period and then they were off.
I had rendered out the fat too
All that effort with the egg whites and wasting eggs for like 12g extra protein in the shake was not worth it so I just cracked four eggs straight into the blender and apart from the colour change I can't notice the difference taste or texture wise, it was all in my head. I love eggs so I don't even know why.. probably because of Rocky movies.
12 eggs each shake is what Vince Gironda wrote about in the 60s, he recommended doing cycles of these shakes "like DBOL" for 8 weeks. He was using fertilised (?) eggs and mixing with half&half (full-fat milk and cream mix) I want to try this at some stage in the future but for now I'm pretty happy with the idea of being able to get 12 eggs a day down that easy.
The retatrutide is absolutely amazing. It blows my mind that humans can design and produce drugs this advanced. How they do that is beyond my realm. I can understand having three different things doing one task each and combining them in a pill or something but this I dunno. Amazing they did though, I never thought I'd have this much control over what I eat without great mental effort or discomfort or.. something
Been a little bit rocky this week but I feel like I'm close to finding a new normal with it.
I did my first shot with the new EOD dosing plan recommended by @LevButlerov and @Dave1288499 and already it's much better. I am not sick today like I was last Saturday but can 100% notice the dose is working, it seems to be noticeable about 20 hours after.
Same process as last time, pinched a fold of my leg skin and pinned the micro-needle into the fat. All on schedule with regular testosterone pins too, have come to really like my post walk pin ritual. Gives me ten minutes to calm down while my muscles are well warmed up and process what I'm doing and work on the mind-needle connection.
Still a bit bothered by wasting test but I'm going to the needle exchange tomorrow to talk to them about it and try get the tips a dude recommended to me here the other day that looked perfect.
I walked into the city to go work on the ship today and had a dodgy stomach at times, got a few waves of nausea but they cleared pretty quick. I'm back at my van now and feel okay. Would have been 12k steps there and back but that's all I've done today really, I'm gonna hit the gym tonight.
Been working on bodyweight squats and bar only squats lately. Mobster recommended the bar squats and I'm fully on board, they fit in nicely with my general plan of losing weight and getting fitter, and I'm comfortable with them already whereas I am not with heavy free weight barbell squats.
I progressed on the hacksquat over the past six months with my PT and I'm comfortable continuing with that and will use that for my heavy leg day which I'll do once a week not twice, and want to add high rep bodyweight and bar squats into my weekly schedule somehow. I can already feel their affect a bit, they're making me fitter and stronger in a way that's definitely new.
I have been unstructured in training this week but I've been learning and figuring some shit out, it's okay. I've showered everyday and not been missing cardio warmups, I'll post more training stuff soon, I've been formalising a routine and schedule to get input from @Dave1288499 who kindly offered to look over it for me.
I've made some solid investments this week and am now broke. Laying the foundations for the next phase of consistent dieting - namely my new portable battery powered blender:
After a day of experiments with varying degrees of success I only have enough powder for one 2-scoop shake a day and no eggs. I am going to have to get more/different powder this dole day though. Two bags of the supermarket one I have would be $100 or a whole third of my weekly income so I should give it some thought, I was hoping to budget $60 for eggs now I've learnt to drink them, which would get me 90 from the farmers market.
Diet has otherwise been the same the past few days
I started putting salt into the tuna cans and it's good, could have got a third one down last night but thought I'd better save it for another day.
I would usually be pretty worried being this far out with so little food but I've been listening to a bunch of older podcast episodes lately where @stevesmi teaches us about fasting. He also has a log/thread where he lays out research and studies into fasting, talks a bit about how the middle eastern lifters have incorporated fasting from their cultural practices into their training too to great result. Stevesmi's fasting thread is here:
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...ld-more-muscle-and-my-prolong-fast-log.81856/
Monday and Tuesday seem like great days to experiment with that, and that also means I don't need to do anything about not having any money for food which suits me perfectly. Thanks Steve =)
I appear to be out of instant coffee though, that might be a bigger issue. If that goes south I can always go to the ship and have one.
I now have the blender, I've run the experiments and figured out how to drink eggs. I'm ready to start consistently doing this on Wednesday once restocked in powder & eggs.
The entry I didn't post on Thursday was photos and text of my whole day spent learning how to separate eggs whites which I'd never done before and various ways to make shakes up with just a cup and a spoon as tools but it was all for nothing because just cracking four whole eggs in and blending comes out perfectly nice. Nothing to share came of it so I just didn't post. I ended up throwing out all the egg yolks I'd saved in my pot during this unfortunately, and about 300g of left over beef mince. I couldn't face them over a two day period and then they were off.
I had rendered out the fat too
All that effort with the egg whites and wasting eggs for like 12g extra protein in the shake was not worth it so I just cracked four eggs straight into the blender and apart from the colour change I can't notice the difference taste or texture wise, it was all in my head. I love eggs so I don't even know why.. probably because of Rocky movies.
12 eggs each shake is what Vince Gironda wrote about in the 60s, he recommended doing cycles of these shakes "like DBOL" for 8 weeks. He was using fertilised (?) eggs and mixing with half&half (full-fat milk and cream mix) I want to try this at some stage in the future but for now I'm pretty happy with the idea of being able to get 12 eggs a day down that easy.
The retatrutide is absolutely amazing. It blows my mind that humans can design and produce drugs this advanced. How they do that is beyond my realm. I can understand having three different things doing one task each and combining them in a pill or something but this I dunno. Amazing they did though, I never thought I'd have this much control over what I eat without great mental effort or discomfort or.. something
Been a little bit rocky this week but I feel like I'm close to finding a new normal with it.
I did my first shot with the new EOD dosing plan recommended by @LevButlerov and @Dave1288499 and already it's much better. I am not sick today like I was last Saturday but can 100% notice the dose is working, it seems to be noticeable about 20 hours after.
Same process as last time, pinched a fold of my leg skin and pinned the micro-needle into the fat. All on schedule with regular testosterone pins too, have come to really like my post walk pin ritual. Gives me ten minutes to calm down while my muscles are well warmed up and process what I'm doing and work on the mind-needle connection.
Still a bit bothered by wasting test but I'm going to the needle exchange tomorrow to talk to them about it and try get the tips a dude recommended to me here the other day that looked perfect.
I walked into the city to go work on the ship today and had a dodgy stomach at times, got a few waves of nausea but they cleared pretty quick. I'm back at my van now and feel okay. Would have been 12k steps there and back but that's all I've done today really, I'm gonna hit the gym tonight.
Been working on bodyweight squats and bar only squats lately. Mobster recommended the bar squats and I'm fully on board, they fit in nicely with my general plan of losing weight and getting fitter, and I'm comfortable with them already whereas I am not with heavy free weight barbell squats.
I progressed on the hacksquat over the past six months with my PT and I'm comfortable continuing with that and will use that for my heavy leg day which I'll do once a week not twice, and want to add high rep bodyweight and bar squats into my weekly schedule somehow. I can already feel their affect a bit, they're making me fitter and stronger in a way that's definitely new.
I have been unstructured in training this week but I've been learning and figuring some shit out, it's okay. I've showered everyday and not been missing cardio warmups, I'll post more training stuff soon, I've been formalising a routine and schedule to get input from @Dave1288499 who kindly offered to look over it for me.
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You’ve put a lot of thought into this and it shows, the blender and eggs setup is going to make hitting protein way easier and cheaper than leaning on powders. Retatrutide doing its job is huge for sticking to the plan, you can see how it’s helping you stay on track even with the tough food budget. Training might feel unstructured now but adding bar squats and bodyweight work like that is smart, it builds fitness and confidence while you lean on the hack squat for heavy leg days. Keep logging it all, even the misses like wasted yolks, it’ll keep you accountable and you’ll be able to look back and see how far you’ve come. @vanlife_gymbum
I'm going to help him with his training this week, while I'm in the areaYou’ve put a lot of thought into this and it shows, the blender and eggs setup is going to make hitting protein way easier and cheaper than leaning on powders. Retatrutide doing its job is huge for sticking to the plan, you can see how it’s helping you stay on track even with the tough food budget. Training might feel unstructured now but adding bar squats and bodyweight work like that is smart, it builds fitness and confidence while you lean on the hack squat for heavy leg days. Keep logging it all, even the misses like wasted yolks, it’ll keep you accountable and you’ll be able to look back and see how far you’ve come. @vanlife_gymbum
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You should do team pics of training
We'll take some for memoriesYou should do team pics of training
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I was planning it as a surprise but I spoiled it farr I'm stink owthanks
just watched a movie today called "leave no trace".. about a homeless vet who has ptsd who lives in the woods with his daughter. quite interesting movie got 100 perfect score on rotten tomatoes @vanlife_gymbum
@vanlife_gymbum wow this one looks good man. its nice to see your story in real time like this. its like a reality show in some ways on how you live day to day
bro you working ? i thought you were straight up bum? should not be working @vanlife_gymbum gotta live the real life
@vanlife_gymbum nice to see you are mixing those eggs and beef. its a good protein meal. nice job picking up some extra bucks
tuna is a good source of protein and omegas. just don't over do it too much. you can end up with mercury issues @vanlife_gymbum
bros this is a cool update. the bum living has some perks @vanlife_gymbum seems like you finding the cheat codes to make it fun
@vanlife_gymbum I read through your latest pages and bro you're really making the effort with the tools and money you have. Keep grinding it out bro and the results will come. Oh, and I like your macros too, smart move with the goals you have.
I just got back from meeting up with fellow Evo logger @Dave1288499. He got the same gym membership as me on the bus on his way to Wellington and I went and picked up his tag for him before they closed.
We went straight to the gym. I poorly timed my reta EOD shot and ate an apple right before leaving. I left his free gym bag for new members in my van and ran back to get it before he arrived and the run was taxing and the reta and apple mixed and I spewed on the side of the gym. Guess it's gonna be a fasted lifting session.
This was my first time going to the gym with someone else before and I had an awesome time, Dave had his other really strong mate with him and the three of us went hard.
I don't think photos can capture what's going on with his muscle definition very well, it was pretty awesome to see in person. Dave's a cool guy and knows tons about training and guided his friend and me through a pretty hardcore arm session, I learnt tons of new shit and it's much appreciated thanks bro.
I am too tired to write up our session tonight but everything he showed me was new. I feel absolutely destroyed now but feel great. It's pissing down raining on my roof and it's 1am and time to crash. We're gonna meet up again and go lifting in the morning so I'll write out our exercises and sets tomorrow.
Being able to prod the different part of his muscle while it was under heavy load was really trippy and trying to figure out wtf was going on with the different parts I've never seen directly before was definitely educational.
We were really riding the good vibrations in the gym and people definatly noticed him and were pretty obvious about it haha
A young guy came over and took the other cable station half and started doing the Sword-Scabbard Pulls and so I struck up a conversation with him using that as the opener - he was cool and called them cable side lateral raises. He and his friend at the next cable station were both checking bro out with great interest pretty blatantly
Then this buff Indian dude I've seen a few times before on the captins chair leg raise machine directly behind us also preformed a pretty thorough inspection from the rare before doing a lap around the long way to his next machine to have a geeze from the other side.
Later a chick at the fixed small barbell and eze-bar rack kinda positioned herself in a way that made her open to being assisted which was kinda smooth of her and bro was atcually pretty smooth in return and gave her the ten that I was hoping to get, forcing me to use the 15, also pretty smooth. I wouldn't be surprised if she did that to get a better look at him tho
We ran into an impressive dude too, after we were done while I was putting my clothes back on in the locker room a guy dressed for running in neon yellow came in dripping with sweat hardcore but was friendly and we talked to him about his crazy 4th wall running stuff and he was clearly at an advanced level of fitness and Dave probed him pretty hard for technical details of his training which he was surprisingly receptive too and he told us some cool shit.
Dave showed me some new curls:
Then we left the big gym and walked over the road to the exclusive R18 gym.
These guys are from a rural area in the middle of the countryside an hours drive away from a gym and just like me three weeks ago, I dont think had never seen anything the likes of this place before. It's very flash and ultra-modern and the perfect place to wind down a bit. I think they liked what they saw.
This is Dave's gym now too, we're both in the exclusive club and we should make good use of exclusive gear for recovery we have access to now. I gave him a brief tour of the Nautilus machines but we got down to business and went upstairs where the massage gear, infra-red saunas, pilates room, couch, and massage chair room with rainforest sound noises and a giant movie screen playing soothing natural bush flyover scenery lives, very very nice.
We had to wait for a group of three girls and one guy finished their turns and vacated the recovery and meditation room as they call the room, it has four ultra-modern massage chairs that must cost a shit ton. They are awesome and I've been getting physical recovery gains from regular half hour sessions. I can plug my phone into the wall to change while I do it.
While waiting we played around with the electric massage hammer guns and vibrating balls and Bluetooth foam rollers.. and Dave was making plans for the infra-red sauna during the week but the details of that went over my head.
We did the half hour "after sports" massage routine which is basically full-body going through each section of your body one by one. Both him and his mate looked stoned half way through, or half asleep.. pretty sure they were digging it.
Time to crash hard.
We went straight to the gym. I poorly timed my reta EOD shot and ate an apple right before leaving. I left his free gym bag for new members in my van and ran back to get it before he arrived and the run was taxing and the reta and apple mixed and I spewed on the side of the gym. Guess it's gonna be a fasted lifting session.
This was my first time going to the gym with someone else before and I had an awesome time, Dave had his other really strong mate with him and the three of us went hard.
I don't think photos can capture what's going on with his muscle definition very well, it was pretty awesome to see in person. Dave's a cool guy and knows tons about training and guided his friend and me through a pretty hardcore arm session, I learnt tons of new shit and it's much appreciated thanks bro.
I am too tired to write up our session tonight but everything he showed me was new. I feel absolutely destroyed now but feel great. It's pissing down raining on my roof and it's 1am and time to crash. We're gonna meet up again and go lifting in the morning so I'll write out our exercises and sets tomorrow.
Being able to prod the different part of his muscle while it was under heavy load was really trippy and trying to figure out wtf was going on with the different parts I've never seen directly before was definitely educational.
We were really riding the good vibrations in the gym and people definatly noticed him and were pretty obvious about it haha
A young guy came over and took the other cable station half and started doing the Sword-Scabbard Pulls and so I struck up a conversation with him using that as the opener - he was cool and called them cable side lateral raises. He and his friend at the next cable station were both checking bro out with great interest pretty blatantly
Then this buff Indian dude I've seen a few times before on the captins chair leg raise machine directly behind us also preformed a pretty thorough inspection from the rare before doing a lap around the long way to his next machine to have a geeze from the other side.
Later a chick at the fixed small barbell and eze-bar rack kinda positioned herself in a way that made her open to being assisted which was kinda smooth of her and bro was atcually pretty smooth in return and gave her the ten that I was hoping to get, forcing me to use the 15, also pretty smooth. I wouldn't be surprised if she did that to get a better look at him tho
We ran into an impressive dude too, after we were done while I was putting my clothes back on in the locker room a guy dressed for running in neon yellow came in dripping with sweat hardcore but was friendly and we talked to him about his crazy 4th wall running stuff and he was clearly at an advanced level of fitness and Dave probed him pretty hard for technical details of his training which he was surprisingly receptive too and he told us some cool shit.
Dave showed me some new curls:
Then we left the big gym and walked over the road to the exclusive R18 gym.
These guys are from a rural area in the middle of the countryside an hours drive away from a gym and just like me three weeks ago, I dont think had never seen anything the likes of this place before. It's very flash and ultra-modern and the perfect place to wind down a bit. I think they liked what they saw.
This is Dave's gym now too, we're both in the exclusive club and we should make good use of exclusive gear for recovery we have access to now. I gave him a brief tour of the Nautilus machines but we got down to business and went upstairs where the massage gear, infra-red saunas, pilates room, couch, and massage chair room with rainforest sound noises and a giant movie screen playing soothing natural bush flyover scenery lives, very very nice.
We had to wait for a group of three girls and one guy finished their turns and vacated the recovery and meditation room as they call the room, it has four ultra-modern massage chairs that must cost a shit ton. They are awesome and I've been getting physical recovery gains from regular half hour sessions. I can plug my phone into the wall to change while I do it.
While waiting we played around with the electric massage hammer guns and vibrating balls and Bluetooth foam rollers.. and Dave was making plans for the infra-red sauna during the week but the details of that went over my head.
We did the half hour "after sports" massage routine which is basically full-body going through each section of your body one by one. Both him and his mate looked stoned half way through, or half asleep.. pretty sure they were digging it.
Time to crash hard.
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I was late yesterday and the needle exchange was closed... I had to use the god damn vending machine... behold:
It has various premade needle packs for 50c to $1. In exact coin format of course
IV junkies measure shit while it's still in powder form and mix it in a spoon or back load a syringe so the amount of liquid is not important, though it hits your heart slightly quicker with less. If you're at the point where that matters you should go to a meeting
They're pretty shit for measuring under a .ml. see the plunger is not flat but sticks into the liquid? That drives crackheads nuts when they try share with each other haha .
Load up the Life Forge Test E, it's what's for breakfast
You can see the goosebumps on my leg, that means it's fucking cold so I did some @LevButlerov bodyweight squats in place so my muscles drink up the cold steel tip
I made a pot of rice at midnightast night and I have two plates like this down
Don't usually lift in the morning but I'm gonna tag along and watch @Dave1288499 prep all week for his show on Saturday. I'll get some pics for you guys and for his Tinder profile.
It has various premade needle packs for 50c to $1. In exact coin format of course
IV junkies measure shit while it's still in powder form and mix it in a spoon or back load a syringe so the amount of liquid is not important, though it hits your heart slightly quicker with less. If you're at the point where that matters you should go to a meeting
They're pretty shit for measuring under a .ml. see the plunger is not flat but sticks into the liquid? That drives crackheads nuts when they try share with each other haha .
Load up the Life Forge Test E, it's what's for breakfast
You can see the goosebumps on my leg, that means it's fucking cold so I did some @LevButlerov bodyweight squats in place so my muscles drink up the cold steel tip
I made a pot of rice at midnightast night and I have two plates like this down
Don't usually lift in the morning but I'm gonna tag along and watch @Dave1288499 prep all week for his show on Saturday. I'll get some pics for you guys and for his Tinder profile.
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just got back from meeting up with fellow Evo logger @Dave1288499. He got the same gym membership as me on the bus on his way to Wellington and I went and picked up his tag for him before they closed.
We went straight to the gym. I poorly timed my reta EOD shot and ate an apple right before leaving. I left his free gym bag for new members in my van and ran back to get it before he arrived and the run was taxing and the reta and apple mixed and I spewed on the side of the gym. Guess it's gonna be a fasted lifting session.
This was my first time going to the gym with someone else before and I had an awesome time, Dave had his other really strong mate with him and the three of us went hard.
I don't think photos can capture what's going on with his muscle definition very well, it was pretty awesome to see in person. Dave's a cool guy and knows tons about training and guided his friend and me through a pretty hardcore arm session, I learnt tons of new shit and it's much appreciated thanks bro.
I am too tired to write up our session tonight but everything he showed me was new. I feel absolutely destroyed now but feel great. It's pissing down raining on my roof and it's 1am and time to crash. We're gonna meet up again and go lifting in the morning so I'll write out our exercises and sets tomorrow.
Being able to prod the different part of his muscle while it was under heavy load was really trippy and trying to figure out wtf was going on with the different parts I've never seen directly before was definitely educational.
We were really riding the good vibrations in the gym and people definatly noticed him and were pretty obvious about it haha
A young guy came over and took the other cable station half and started doing the Sword-Scabbard Pulls and so I struck up a conversation with him using that as the opener - he was cool and called them cable side lateral raises. He and his friend at the next cable station were both checking bro out with great interest pretty blatantly
Then this buff Indian dude I've seen a few times before on the captins chair leg raise machine directly behind us also preformed a pretty thorough inspection from the rare before doing a lap around the long way to his next machine to have a geeze from the other side.
Later a chick at the fixed small barbell and eze-bar rack kinda positioned herself in a way that made her open to being assisted which was kinda smooth of her and bro was atcually pretty smooth in return and gave her the ten that I was hoping to get, forcing me to use the 15, also pretty smooth. I wouldn't be surprised if she did that to get a better look at him tho
We ran into an impressive dude too, after we were done while I was putting my clothes back on in the locker room a guy dressed for running in neon yellow came in dripping with sweat hardcore but was friendly and we talked to him about his crazy 4th wall running stuff and he was clearly at an advanced level of fitness and Dave probed him pretty hard for technical details of his training which he was surprisingly receptive too and he told us some cool shit.
Dave showed me some new curls:
Then we left the big gym and walked over the road to the exclusive R18 gym.
These guys are from a rural area in the middle of the countryside an hours drive away from a gym and just like me three weeks ago, I dont think had never seen anything the likes of this place before. It's very flash and ultra-modern and the perfect place to wind down a bit. I think they liked what they saw.
This is Dave's gym now too, we're both in the exclusive club and we should make good use of exclusive gear for recovery we have access to now. I gave him a brief tour of the Nautilus machines but we got down to business and went upstairs where the massage gear, infra-red saunas, pilates room, couch, and massage chair room with rainforest sound noises and a giant movie screen playing soothing natural bush flyover scenery lives, very very nice.
We had to wait for a group of three girls and one guy finished their turns and vacated the recovery and meditation room as they call the room, it has four ultra-modern massage chairs that must cost a shit ton. They are awesome and I've been getting physical recovery gains from regular half hour sessions. I can plug my phone into the wall to change while I do it.
While waiting we played around with the electric massage hammer guns and vibrating balls and Bluetooth foam rollers.. and Dave was making plans for the infra-red sauna during the week but the details of that went over my head.
We did the half hour "after sports" massage routine which is basically full-body going through each section of your body one by one. Both him and his mate looked stoned half way through, or half asleep.. pretty sure they were digging it.
Sounds like you had a solid first session training with a crew, that changes the whole vibe compared to lifting alone. Even with the retatrutide shot and apple mishap you still got in and pushed through, that’s discipline. Getting shown new curl variations and feeling wrecked after arms is a good sign you were actually hitting the muscle properly. The recovery side with massage chairs and sauna is huge too, keep using that to stay fresh so you can keep hammering those sessions back to back.just got back from meeting up with fellow Evo logger @Dave1288499. He got the same gym membership as me on the bus on his way to Wellington and I went and picked up his tag for him before they closed.
We went straight to the gym. I poorly timed my reta EOD shot and ate an apple right before leaving. I left his free gym bag for new members in my van and ran back to get it before he arrived and the run was taxing and the reta and apple mixed and I spewed on the side of the gym. Guess it's gonna be a fasted lifting session.
This was my first time going to the gym with someone else before and I had an awesome time, Dave had his other really strong mate with him and the three of us went hard.
I don't think photos can capture what's going on with his muscle definition very well, it was pretty awesome to see in person. Dave's a cool guy and knows tons about training and guided his friend and me through a pretty hardcore arm session, I learnt tons of new shit and it's much appreciated thanks bro.
I am too tired to write up our session tonight but everything he showed me was new. I feel absolutely destroyed now but feel great. It's pissing down raining on my roof and it's 1am and time to crash. We're gonna meet up again and go lifting in the morning so I'll write out our exercises and sets tomorrow.
Being able to prod the different part of his muscle while it was under heavy load was really trippy and trying to figure out wtf was going on with the different parts I've never seen directly before was definitely educational.
We were really riding the good vibrations in the gym and people definatly noticed him and were pretty obvious about it haha
A young guy came over and took the other cable station half and started doing the Sword-Scabbard Pulls and so I struck up a conversation with him using that as the opener - he was cool and called them cable side lateral raises. He and his friend at the next cable station were both checking bro out with great interest pretty blatantly
Then this buff Indian dude I've seen a few times before on the captins chair leg raise machine directly behind us also preformed a pretty thorough inspection from the rare before doing a lap around the long way to his next machine to have a geeze from the other side.
Later a chick at the fixed small barbell and eze-bar rack kinda positioned herself in a way that made her open to being assisted which was kinda smooth of her and bro was atcually pretty smooth in return and gave her the ten that I was hoping to get, forcing me to use the 15, also pretty smooth. I wouldn't be surprised if she did that to get a better look at him tho
We ran into an impressive dude too, after we were done while I was putting my clothes back on in the locker room a guy dressed for running in neon yellow came in dripping with sweat hardcore but was friendly and we talked to him about his crazy 4th wall running stuff and he was clearly at an advanced level of fitness and Dave probed him pretty hard for technical details of his training which he was surprisingly receptive too and he told us some cool shit.
Dave showed me some new curls:
Then we left the big gym and walked over the road to the exclusive R18 gym.
These guys are from a rural area in the middle of the countryside an hours drive away from a gym and just like me three weeks ago, I dont think had never seen anything the likes of this place before. It's very flash and ultra-modern and the perfect place to wind down a bit. I think they liked what they saw.
This is Dave's gym now too, we're both in the exclusive club and we should make good use of exclusive gear for recovery we have access to now. I gave him a brief tour of the Nautilus machines but we got down to business and went upstairs where the massage gear, infra-red saunas, pilates room, couch, and massage chair room with rainforest sound noises and a giant movie screen playing soothing natural bush flyover scenery lives, very very nice.
We had to wait for a group of three girls and one guy finished their turns and vacated the recovery and meditation room as they call the room, it has four ultra-modern massage chairs that must cost a shit ton. They are awesome and I've been getting physical recovery gains from regular half hour sessions. I can plug my phone into the wall to change while I do it.
While waiting we played around with the electric massage hammer guns and vibrating balls and Bluetooth foam rollers.. and Dave was making plans for the infra-red sauna during the week but the details of that went over my head.
We did the half hour "after sports" massage routine which is basically full-body going through each section of your body one by one. Both him and his mate looked stoned half way through, or half asleep.. pretty sure they were digging it.
@vanlife_gymbum @Dave1288499 I'm impressed you guys did it!
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Nice the needle exchange is very convenientI was late yesterday and the needle exchange was closed... I had to use the god damn vending machine... behold:
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It has various premade needle packs for 50c to $1. In exact coin format of course
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View attachment 121541
IV junkies measure shit while it's still in powder form and mix it in a spoon or back load a syringe so the amount of liquid is not important, though it hits your heart slightly quicker with less. If you're at the point where that matters you should go to a meeting
View attachment 121544
They're pretty shit for measuring under a .ml. see the plunger is not flat but sticks into the liquid? That drives crackheads nuts when they try share with each other haha .
Load up the Life Forge Test E, it's what's for breakfast
View attachment 121538
You can see the goosebumps on my leg, that means it's fucking cold so I did some @LevButlerov bodyweight squats in place so my muscles drink up the cold steel tip
View attachment 121545View attachment 121537
I made a pot of rice at midnightast night and I have two plates like this down
View attachment 121546
Don't usually lift in the morning but I'm gonna tag along and watch @Dave1288499 prep all week for his show on Saturday. I'll get some pics for you guys and for his Tinder profile.
and love the meals!
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a 26g needle before. NiceI was late yesterday and the needle exchange was closed... I had to use the god damn vending machine... behold:
View attachment 121539
It has various premade needle packs for 50c to $1. In exact coin format of course
View attachment 121540
View attachment 121541
IV junkies measure shit while it's still in powder form and mix it in a spoon or back load a syringe so the amount of liquid is not important, though it hits your heart slightly quicker with less. If you're at the point where that matters you should go to a meeting
View attachment 121544
They're pretty shit for measuring under a .ml. see the plunger is not flat but sticks into the liquid? That drives crackheads nuts when they try share with each other haha .
Load up the Life Forge Test E, it's what's for breakfast
View attachment 121538
You can see the goosebumps on my leg, that means it's fucking cold so I did some @LevButlerov bodyweight squats in place so my muscles drink up the cold steel tip
View attachment 121545View attachment 121537
I made a pot of rice at midnightast night and I have two plates like this down
View attachment 121546
Don't usually lift in the morning but I'm gonna tag along and watch @Dave1288499 prep all week for his show on Saturday. I'll get some pics for you guys and for his Tinder profile.
@vanlife_gymbum what i've found is avoid foods that aggravate the stomach. apples are super acidy in the stomach. i had to give up certain fruits myselfI was late yesterday and the needle exchange was closed... I had to use the god damn vending machine... behold:
View attachment 121539
It has various premade needle packs for 50c to $1. In exact coin format of course
View attachment 121540
View attachment 121541
IV junkies measure shit while it's still in powder form and mix it in a spoon or back load a syringe so the amount of liquid is not important, though it hits your heart slightly quicker with less. If you're at the point where that matters you should go to a meeting
View attachment 121544
They're pretty shit for measuring under a .ml. see the plunger is not flat but sticks into the liquid? That drives crackheads nuts when they try share with each other haha .
Load up the Life Forge Test E, it's what's for breakfast
View attachment 121538
You can see the goosebumps on my leg, that means it's fucking cold so I did some @LevButlerov bodyweight squats in place so my muscles drink up the cold steel tip
View attachment 121545View attachment 121537
I made a pot of rice at midnightast night and I have two plates like this down
View attachment 121546
Don't usually lift in the morning but I'm gonna tag along and watch @Dave1288499 prep all week for his show on Saturday. I'll get some pics for you guys and for his Tinder profile.
Bro, this really cool. Glad to see you working out with other people on The Forum. can't wait to meat up with some of you in the clink @vanlife_gymbumI just got back from meeting up with fellow Evo logger @Dave1288499. He got the same gym membership as me on the bus on his way to Wellington and I went and picked up his tag for him before they closed.
We went straight to the gym. I poorly timed my reta EOD shot and ate an apple right before leaving. I left his free gym bag for new members in my van and ran back to get it before he arrived and the run was taxing and the reta and apple mixed and I spewed on the side of the gym. Guess it's gonna be a fasted lifting session.
This was my first time going to the gym with someone else before and I had an awesome time, Dave had his other really strong mate with him and the three of us went hard.
View attachment 121464
I don't think photos can capture what's going on with his muscle definition very well, it was pretty awesome to see in person. Dave's a cool guy and knows tons about training and guided his friend and me through a pretty hardcore arm session, I learnt tons of new shit and it's much appreciated thanks bro.
View attachment 121472
I am too tired to write up our session tonight but everything he showed me was new. I feel absolutely destroyed now but feel great. It's pissing down raining on my roof and it's 1am and time to crash. We're gonna meet up again and go lifting in the morning so I'll write out our exercises and sets tomorrow.
View attachment 121465
Being able to prod the different part of his muscle while it was under heavy load was really trippy and trying to figure out wtf was going on with the different parts I've never seen directly before was definitely educational.
View attachment 121466
We were really riding the good vibrations in the gym and people definatly noticed him and were pretty obvious about it haha
A young guy came over and took the other cable station half and started doing the Sword-Scabbard Pulls and so I struck up a conversation with him using that as the opener - he was cool and called them cable side lateral raises. He and his friend at the next cable station were both checking bro out with great interest pretty blatantly
Then this buff Indian dude I've seen a few times before on the captins chair leg raise machine directly behind us also preformed a pretty thorough inspection from the rare before doing a lap around the long way to his next machine to have a geeze from the other side.
Later a chick at the fixed small barbell and eze-bar rack kinda positioned herself in a way that made her open to being assisted which was kinda smooth of her and bro was atcually pretty smooth in return and gave her the ten that I was hoping to get, forcing me to use the 15, also pretty smooth. I wouldn't be surprised if she did that to get a better look at him tho
View attachment 121467
We ran into an impressive dude too, after we were done while I was putting my clothes back on in the locker room a guy dressed for running in neon yellow came in dripping with sweat hardcore but was friendly and we talked to him about his crazy 4th wall running stuff and he was clearly at an advanced level of fitness and Dave probed him pretty hard for technical details of his training which he was surprisingly receptive too and he told us some cool shit.
View attachment 121473
Dave showed me some new curls:
View attachment 121469
Then we left the big gym and walked over the road to the exclusive R18 gym.
These guys are from a rural area in the middle of the countryside an hours drive away from a gym and just like me three weeks ago, I dont think had never seen anything the likes of this place before. It's very flash and ultra-modern and the perfect place to wind down a bit. I think they liked what they saw.
This is Dave's gym now too, we're both in the exclusive club and we should make good use of exclusive gear for recovery we have access to now. I gave him a brief tour of the Nautilus machines but we got down to business and went upstairs where the massage gear, infra-red saunas, pilates room, couch, and massage chair room with rainforest sound noises and a giant movie screen playing soothing natural bush flyover scenery lives, very very nice.
We had to wait for a group of three girls and one guy finished their turns and vacated the recovery and meditation room as they call the room, it has four ultra-modern massage chairs that must cost a shit ton. They are awesome and I've been getting physical recovery gains from regular half hour sessions. I can plug my phone into the wall to change while I do it.
While waiting we played around with the electric massage hammer guns and vibrating balls and Bluetooth foam rollers.. and Dave was making plans for the infra-red sauna during the week but the details of that went over my head.
We did the half hour "after sports" massage routine which is basically full-body going through each section of your body one by one. Both him and his mate looked stoned half way through, or half asleep.. pretty sure they were digging it.
Time to crash hard.
bros and save money too.
Thanks bro! I appreciate it, getting into a good groove with everything and am slowly turning the heat up with training and diet, things are going great man =)
bros that awesome you had a meatup. good to see you love chilling with EVO family. @vanlife_gymbum look good!I just got back from meeting up with fellow Evo logger @Dave1288499. He got the same gym membership as me on the bus on his way to Wellington and I went and picked up his tag for him before they closed.
We went straight to the gym. I poorly timed my reta EOD shot and ate an apple right before leaving. I left his free gym bag for new members in my van and ran back to get it before he arrived and the run was taxing and the reta and apple mixed and I spewed on the side of the gym. Guess it's gonna be a fasted lifting session.
This was my first time going to the gym with someone else before and I had an awesome time, Dave had his other really strong mate with him and the three of us went hard.
View attachment 121464
I don't think photos can capture what's going on with his muscle definition very well, it was pretty awesome to see in person. Dave's a cool guy and knows tons about training and guided his friend and me through a pretty hardcore arm session, I learnt tons of new shit and it's much appreciated thanks bro.
View attachment 121472
I am too tired to write up our session tonight but everything he showed me was new. I feel absolutely destroyed now but feel great. It's pissing down raining on my roof and it's 1am and time to crash. We're gonna meet up again and go lifting in the morning so I'll write out our exercises and sets tomorrow.
View attachment 121465
Being able to prod the different part of his muscle while it was under heavy load was really trippy and trying to figure out wtf was going on with the different parts I've never seen directly before was definitely educational.
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We were really riding the good vibrations in the gym and people definatly noticed him and were pretty obvious about it haha
A young guy came over and took the other cable station half and started doing the Sword-Scabbard Pulls and so I struck up a conversation with him using that as the opener - he was cool and called them cable side lateral raises. He and his friend at the next cable station were both checking bro out with great interest pretty blatantly
Then this buff Indian dude I've seen a few times before on the captins chair leg raise machine directly behind us also preformed a pretty thorough inspection from the rare before doing a lap around the long way to his next machine to have a geeze from the other side.
Later a chick at the fixed small barbell and eze-bar rack kinda positioned herself in a way that made her open to being assisted which was kinda smooth of her and bro was atcually pretty smooth in return and gave her the ten that I was hoping to get, forcing me to use the 15, also pretty smooth. I wouldn't be surprised if she did that to get a better look at him tho
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We ran into an impressive dude too, after we were done while I was putting my clothes back on in the locker room a guy dressed for running in neon yellow came in dripping with sweat hardcore but was friendly and we talked to him about his crazy 4th wall running stuff and he was clearly at an advanced level of fitness and Dave probed him pretty hard for technical details of his training which he was surprisingly receptive too and he told us some cool shit.
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Dave showed me some new curls:
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Then we left the big gym and walked over the road to the exclusive R18 gym.
These guys are from a rural area in the middle of the countryside an hours drive away from a gym and just like me three weeks ago, I dont think had never seen anything the likes of this place before. It's very flash and ultra-modern and the perfect place to wind down a bit. I think they liked what they saw.
This is Dave's gym now too, we're both in the exclusive club and we should make good use of exclusive gear for recovery we have access to now. I gave him a brief tour of the Nautilus machines but we got down to business and went upstairs where the massage gear, infra-red saunas, pilates room, couch, and massage chair room with rainforest sound noises and a giant movie screen playing soothing natural bush flyover scenery lives, very very nice.
We had to wait for a group of three girls and one guy finished their turns and vacated the recovery and meditation room as they call the room, it has four ultra-modern massage chairs that must cost a shit ton. They are awesome and I've been getting physical recovery gains from regular half hour sessions. I can plug my phone into the wall to change while I do it.
While waiting we played around with the electric massage hammer guns and vibrating balls and Bluetooth foam rollers.. and Dave was making plans for the infra-red sauna during the week but the details of that went over my head.
We did the half hour "after sports" massage routine which is basically full-body going through each section of your body one by one. Both him and his mate looked stoned half way through, or half asleep.. pretty sure they were digging it.
Time to crash hard.
Very true bro! Most of the USA vanlife people on Reddit are doing it to stack cash and avoid the intense craziness with mortgages and rental shortages/prices in lots of places there, especially in California. The Cali vanlifers are hardcore, and have law enforcement, council by-law ans parking stuff.. they basically stay at places like the carparks of Walmart or 24 hour gyms sometimes because they don't have any options.
I can just pull over on the side of the road wherever I want pretty much. I stay in the same spot which is the road next to the gym where there's a park and halfpipe and basketball hoop and no other people, within 100 meters of two gyms =)
@vanlife_gymbum your dedication is dope!
I was quite impressed with him, he gave it a good shakeSounds like you had a solid first session training with a crew, that changes the whole vibe compared to lifting alone. Even with the retatrutide shot and apple mishap you still got in and pushed through, that’s discipline. Getting shown new curl variations and feeling wrecked after arms is a good sign you were actually hitting the muscle properly. The recovery side with massage chairs and sauna is huge too, keep using that to stay fresh so you can keep hammering those sessions back to back.
I'm full of em, just wait till he tells you about todayWe like surprises
Awesome! I'm slowly working through the tons of leads and recommendations you guys give on the podcast. It's also taking me a bit to understand the labyrinth that is Evo but I'm getting there. I just discovered the articles section off the irongorillas ebook site and it's been keeping me occupied =)
It would be awesome to go to the gym with anyone from Evo and I highly recommend forum guys who live within a few hours drive of each other make the effort to meet up and lift together. @Dave1288499 is pretty advanced in his training knowledge and I'm definitely going to make the most of tagging along on his prep week and soaking up as much guidance as I can.
Also because we were a group of three we could really bring the fucking noise in the gym. I've not been able to do any type of assisted rep training before but we did a bit today and we were in the zone... I bearly noticed we were surrounded by middle age ladies doing stretches on the mats and stuff and Dave taught us some assisted rep techniques and I couldn't help but make tons of noise and didn't really try not to either, it was next level.
It was Dave's first time meeting other body-builders today too, we went to the gym at your usual time instead of night. We were lifting just after 9am which is an unusual time for me and there were two massive guys, one we spotted doing 190kg calf raises on the leg press machine and the other dude was throwing around 46kg dumbbells like juggling balls. The guy was so positive and keen to talk to us and Dave hit him up for advice with his quads in posing and the guy said Dave's got it right but talked it over with him. He had been lifting a long time and competed and was super knowledgeable. That was rad and his and shoulders were unreal, his enthusiasm was transferred to the three of us I think and I hope I run into them again.
Thanks bro that sounds right up my alley, I'll watch it and let you know what I think
Those two were friends I think, both will be watching the show according to the second one
Hey thanks brother! I appreciate that. Spring is about to hit so I'm going to start using public bbqs on trails and beaches and parks and hopefully go to some cool new places & take pics since my diet is gonna be pretty single ingredient and the same so I want to change what's in the background of the pics instead
Don't worry brother
I'd never turn my back on the bum lifestyle. It's just one day of volunteer work every Saturday doing manual labour on a 100 year old steam ship. I have the keys to it so I can go there and meal prep and keep things in the fridge. Also a nice old lady makes us all sandwiches and cuts up fruit and cheese and makes us coffee.100% of my income is leeched off the government. Any way I find to leech more from the tax payer I will definitely consider. I want to help and work with other dudes doing this stuff wherever they live, the forum connects us. My time is no longer for sale and I will never work for a corporation ever again.
Awesome bro!! Hopefully you can talk to them again at the show but let's go to the gym in the morning again another day too =)
We get our cardio in down here bro, no police officers can beat us in a foot-race. We never have to use our shanks, we use Run-Fu.
Okay thanks man I didn't really consider that. I've been eating high-fat red meat all winter but now the retatrutide has changed everything, this week I'm going to well stock with eggs for shakes, whey powder for shakes and I'll go to a farmers market on Sunday and see what my other fruit and vegetable options are.
I have access to a kitchen and fridge now so could go there after the farmers market and food prep all the vegetables for a week and keep some glass containers of food in the fridge and ice packs for my cooler (soon to have a insulin cool pack with lock)
I'm going to buy a cheap slow cooker this week and start buying bags of bones from the butcher and make bone broth, based on your advice on the podcast.
I'm interested in collegen too, it's popular mainstream here and the pharmacy I go to for my meds every morning has shelf loads of pills and adverts for it on the walls but that's not my style.
I used to make bone broth outdoors on my pot belly stove in a cast iron dutch oven at my cabin in Australia and have it all the time. Thanks for all your guidance bro, I'm learning so much from your stuff.
Yeah bro, as I told you I like training anytime of day. Hopefully we run into them again
Thanks Lev and you're right it really does change the vibe and I think that's why everyone was drawn to us, also to get a better look at Dave though haha.
We met back at the gym at 9am and Dave showed us some assisted rep techniques and it was hard-core. Probably the 2nd most hardcore session I've had after trying the Vince Gironda 8x8 method on the leg extension with my PT while I was natural. We are definitely going to make the most of it, Dave is down all week for prep week before his show on Saturday and I'm going to tag along and try learn as much as I can
The recovery side with massage chairs and sauna is huge too, keep using that to stay fresh so you can keep hammering those sessions back to back.
Recovery is one area I am good at haha. Getting over hangovers and the consequences of 24/7 drug and alcohol use for decades in order to maintain a high stress corporate career taught me a few tricks I can pass on. You don't need to tell me twice to chill out on the couch. Hopefully I can get Dave to get some massage chair sets in before his show. I slept like a baby after we hit the half hour cycle last night
Collagen is an untapped resource a lot of bodybuilders I talk to don't prioritize but I'm a big believer in it. But, don't get the pills, buy it in bulk powder and try and get in 20g/day.
Wow. That’s several hours of walking, right?
Okay bro, I'll do that. Never heard of that before, I just made bone broth from recipes on https://justmeat.co but want to experiment with this, I'll do some research.
I've done carnivore on and off since 2017 using the archives from The Bear's forum posts as my first guide, then reading the book Fat of the Land from 100+ years ago about the Eskimos diet and health.
The Bear was one of the 7 LSD cooks busted publicly in the 1960s and was the sound engineer for The Grateful Dead for 30 years and through all that until his death in a car accident he was carnivore and his forum post archive on justmeat.co is well worth a read.
I did a quasi carnivore diet for my 16-week blast but with that you have to make sure your supps are in check, especially Vitamin C. It works like magic for me.
You’re the only other person I know who got their carnivore information from the original sources. And we started at the same time
Yeah bro and it was pissing down raining haha. I showed Dave's friend how to walk from the gym to their hotel and dropped him off on foot and then had to walk back myself. But I'd already walked to the pharmacy and back this morning before the gym so it all added up to a pretty big day on the heel-toe express
The longest I ever walked was close to 40 miles. It took me all night, and part of the next day. It was at least 80,000 steps. I spent most of two days in bed after that. Walked right through my socks. I actually logged more than that at work once. I was pulling tiny cables by myself and had to keep running back and forth. It seemed ridiculous when I did it. And then I realized that I more than doubled what I would have done if my “help” had blessed me with his presence. No one could believe I did it. Just keep goingYeah bro and it was pissing down raining haha. I showed Dave's friend how to walk from the gym to their hotel and dropped him off on foot and then had to walk back myself. But I'd already walked to the pharmacy and back this morning before the gym so it all added up to a pretty big day on the heel-toe express
Thats awesome bro! I'm into peramaculture and had five acres of fruit trees and vegetable gardens in Australia but I experimented a couple of years too long with vegetarian/vegan diets with the aim of self sufficientcy. I got good at peramaculture but was dumb about it, dingos ate my chickens (a very authentic Australian experience) and I didn't replace them and I built an aquaponics system to harvest fish but then didn't turn it on and went back to drinking instead and my teeth started falling out from malnutrition I guess and that's when I figured out meat was what I was missing and I could have had animals at that property if I wasn't dumb so I started eating carnivore and reversed most of the damage. Learnt a bit about my body and what food it needs tho!
Decent!!! Any episodes I had like that were not recorded.. I used to wonder how many steps I did during blackouts
bro hah
bro haha my man. that what i like to hear. the same way i avoid paying child support. i keep a shitty job literally, this way they can't raise my child support and take more of my money. i smart!Don't worry brother
100% of my income is leeched off the government. Any way I find to leech more from the tax payer I will definitely consider. I want to help and work with other dudes doing this stuff wherever they live, the forum connects us. My time is no longer for sale and I will never work for a corporation ever again.
Have you also had an almost impossible time explaining how powerful eating like that can be? I’ve had two friends try it earnestly, and they were the least metabolically deranged people that I recommended it to. Both of them actually were suffering from mental issues. The girl, PMDD, and the dude had debilitating anxiety. Both experienced almost complete remission, but neither stuck with it after 90 days. PMDD is hoooorrible. 7-10 days of psychosis during PMS. Days of crying, suspicion and paranoia focused on whoever is prominent in her life. Makes jobs and relationships almost impossible.
Everyone I’ve recommended it to for like PCOS or pre diabetes, they don’t last half a day. You try to explain that that IS. The problem, and this is how you fix it, but they can’t do it.
The bear talked about that. Only very few people have the willpower to carry through for very long. I had to hack my life to pull it off. Pretty isolating. I would be salivating in the store.
Damn bro that's good thinking, I like your style! I avoided mine by leaving the country and going on the lam in my van. Nobody knows how to find me if I don't want them too. It's one of the advantages of having wheels on my house
My son who I haven't talked to for years but written letters is almost old enough that I'll be able to get an phone number in Australia and get my mum to tell him it so he can call me. I'm going to read him some Japaneae manga over the phone, and teach him how to use computers.
It was a night like that. 6°f. I was not dressed for it at all. I got into a fight and got clubbed with something which split my eyebrow, but I didn’t go down and then he didn’t want anymore hahaha. Cops came. I was like,”give me a ride or I’m walking, if I’m not under arrest you have to let me go” I found my way to a hospital and they glued my eyebrow for me. No one would even let me use their phone. I was like “I am a gainfully employed person and if you help me I can pay you” but no one believed me. I was covered in blood and wreaked of booze. So I just kept walking.Decent!!! Any episodes I had like that were not recorded.. I used to wonder how many steps I did during blackouts
@vanlife_gymbum You are living the life. Most of us could only dream of. really enjoy seeing your ups and downs throughout your journey. I'm glad you got in a workout.I was late yesterday and the needle exchange was closed... I had to use the god damn vending machine... behold:
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It has various premade needle packs for 50c to $1. In exact coin format of course
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IV junkies measure shit while it's still in powder form and mix it in a spoon or back load a syringe so the amount of liquid is not important, though it hits your heart slightly quicker with less. If you're at the point where that matters you should go to a meeting
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They're pretty shit for measuring under a .ml. see the plunger is not flat but sticks into the liquid? That drives crackheads nuts when they try share with each other haha .
Load up the Life Forge Test E, it's what's for breakfast
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You can see the goosebumps on my leg, that means it's fucking cold so I did some @LevButlerov bodyweight squats in place so my muscles drink up the cold steel tip
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I made a pot of rice at midnightast night and I have two plates like this down
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Don't usually lift in the morning but I'm gonna tag along and watch @Dave1288499 prep all week for his show on Saturday. I'll get some pics for you guys and for his Tinder profile.
Good to see the EVO family uniting for a workout. I love the little food that you put together. that rice dish looks good @vanlife_gymbumI was late yesterday and the needle exchange was closed... I had to use the god damn vending machine... behold:
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It has various premade needle packs for 50c to $1. In exact coin format of course
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IV junkies measure shit while it's still in powder form and mix it in a spoon or back load a syringe so the amount of liquid is not important, though it hits your heart slightly quicker with less. If you're at the point where that matters you should go to a meeting
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They're pretty shit for measuring under a .ml. see the plunger is not flat but sticks into the liquid? That drives crackheads nuts when they try share with each other haha .
Load up the Life Forge Test E, it's what's for breakfast
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You can see the goosebumps on my leg, that means it's fucking cold so I did some @LevButlerov bodyweight squats in place so my muscles drink up the cold steel tip
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I made a pot of rice at midnightast night and I have two plates like this down
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Don't usually lift in the morning but I'm gonna tag along and watch @Dave1288499 prep all week for his show on Saturday. I'll get some pics for you guys and for his Tinder profile.
Haha thanks bro, it's rice with sea salt in it, I am in a deficit today having eaten one apple this morning and the rest of that rice tonight which was maybe 250grams. And I did that lifting session this morning and walked 32,800 steps. Did something slightly gross this morning, my water jug was empty and it was raining so didn't want to walk to a tap but I had the water I washed the rice in last night saved in my blender to throw outside, so I made an instant coffee with the rice juice... in reality it wasn't as bad as it sounds
I thought about it a bit and
1. is walking to the pharmacy and back about 8:30am to dose methadone and antabuse
2. Is walking @Dave1288499 to the airport, he is visiting someone and back tomorrow for back day, he bought me a me a long black from a Cafe in the airport which gave us access to water jugs and cups and we got through four glass flasks of water between the three of us and Dave got out his meal-prep container and got down some potatoes and chicken.
3. Is walking 5km into the cbd with Dave's mate, I took him to the ship for a black instant coffee but he didn't want one haha. These guys are not addicted to coffee like me so I felt like a crackhead having to get it multiple times during the day
4. is me doing that trip in reverse to get back to my van
yes high fats are a killer on reta
Yeah it freaks me out bro, I eat so much of it. I'm gonna switch to 400 gram cans of mackerel and mash it with rice ans hopefully can learn to eat that haha. The shit is wild but it's got like 25g protein per 100g and costs $2.20. 185 grams of store brand tuna costs like $3.50. Also live at the beach and am unemployed so I should probably look into fishing
@vanlife_gymbum this is awesome you are meeting up with other people on here. it shows you are serious. also it shows a great communityI was late yesterday and the needle exchange was closed... I had to use the god damn vending machine... behold:
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It has various premade needle packs for 50c to $1. In exact coin format of course
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IV junkies measure shit while it's still in powder form and mix it in a spoon or back load a syringe so the amount of liquid is not important, though it hits your heart slightly quicker with less. If you're at the point where that matters you should go to a meeting
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They're pretty shit for measuring under a .ml. see the plunger is not flat but sticks into the liquid? That drives crackheads nuts when they try share with each other haha .
Load up the Life Forge Test E, it's what's for breakfast
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You can see the goosebumps on my leg, that means it's fucking cold so I did some @LevButlerov bodyweight squats in place so my muscles drink up the cold steel tip
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I made a pot of rice at midnightast night and I have two plates like this down
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Don't usually lift in the morning but I'm gonna tag along and watch @Dave1288499 prep all week for his show on Saturday. I'll get some pics for you guys and for his Tinder profile.
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