First run w/Tren suggestions

[Moorepower]

Thinking ab my first go with Tren. Of course I'll run ace so if sides are too harsh I can quit. I'm going to running Test C @ 3-400 and winny and Proviron for 6 weeks at 50mg. Have arimidex & cycle assist on hand. Give me some pointers on tren dosage and caber and/or prami dosages. Would like to run tren 6-8 weeks. Previous cycle history includes. Test, var, winny, dbol, & mast. This will be 4th cycle.


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[Moorepower]

26 years old. 180 11%


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[gymrat827]

why winny with tren??

makes no sense......tren will cut you up too. Id consider running E instead of ace. Ace hit me hard as fuk and i stopped, eventually got E and went back on it.

 

[13bret]

How tall????

 

[Moorepower]

No reason really. May save it. I think it's bunk, but can always save it for a rainy day. I've heard mixed opinions on ace or e. Id prefer e if I could just because I'll be running test for 12 weeks and could be on a simultaneous inject routine. What dosage and what caber dosage?


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[Moorepower]

5'9-5'10


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[jbranken]

why winny with tren??

makes no sense......tren will cut you up too. Id consider running E instead of ace. Ace hit me hard as fuk and i stopped, eventually got E and went back on it.

This is my thoughts. I really prefer the E over ace. I almost have up on tren with ace


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[-SD-]

If ace: 50mg EOD
If Enat: 75mg twice week

caber .25 E3D
Leave test at 200mg wk. It wont add anything but sides since the tren just takes over your whole cycle ditch the winstrol so you can properly gauge just the tren effects and sides etc

 

[Moorepower]

Ok will leave winny out. I've got plenty of test from doc. So I'll run test 125mg twice a week and tren e 75-100 twice a week. Caber, and live support for blood pressure etc. Going to run GW with my pct. Have Proviron on hand also


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[13bret]

Ok will leave winny out. I've got plenty of test from doc. So I'll run test 125mg twice a week and tren e 75-100 twice a week. Caber, and live support for blood pressure etc. Going to run GW with my pct. Have Proviron on hand also


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Good luck.

 

[-SD-]

If you feel the lethargy is bad get your bloodwork done and make sure to check thyroid also

 

[jbranken]

If ace: 50mg EOD
If Enat: 75mg twice week

caber .25 E3D
Leave test at 200mg wk. It wont add anything but sides since the tren just takes over your whole cycle ditch the winstrol so you can properly gauge just the tren effects and sides etc

This is great advice! Follow this OP

 

[gymrat827]

Ok will leave winny out. I've got plenty of test from doc. So I'll run test 125mg twice a week and tren e 75-100 twice a week. Caber, and live support for blood pressure etc. Going to run GW with my pct. Have Proviron on hand also


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just keep on tapering up on the tren. you dont need a lot of tes with it at all. its powerful as hell on its own, even at 350mg.

 

[Moorepower]

Going to add GW 50 into this so. It'll be
Test 250-350
Tren 150-200 tapering up
Proviron-50
GW 50 spilt doses
Caber & aromasin on hand.
Taurine, Cycle assist, n2guard in case


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[Shrine]

Going to add GW 50 into this so. It'll be
Test 250-350
Tren 150-200 tapering up
Proviron-50
GW 50 spilt doses
Caber & aromasin on hand.
Taurine, Cycle assist, n2guard in case


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Sarms1 GW would be a great addition

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[dylangemelli]

here's the layout... DEFINITELY use GW AND S4 with tren bro... you wanted to run winny, well running s4 will harden you up like crazy without any of the winny side effects... take advantage of the buy 2 get 1 free at www.sarms1.com bro...

1-12 test e 350 mg week
1-14 gw-501516 CARDARINE 20 mg day www.sarms1.com
1-12 s4 50 mg day www.sarms1.com
1-14 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
1-10 tren e 400 mg week
1-10 caber .5 mg e3d
1-12 proviron 50 mg day
1-14 n2guard www.n2bm.com
5-12 hcgenerate es www.n2bm.com
13-14 hcg 1000 ius week

pct 15-18

clomid 50/50/25/25 AG-guys.com
phytoserms http://www.ruthlesssupplements.com/103.html
hcgenerate n2bm.com
aromasin 12.5 mg eod AG-guys.com
n2guard n2bm.com
ostarine 25 mg day www.sarms1.com



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[RickRock]

I don't think there is a problem starting with Tren E, as long as you start with a lower dose to assess sides. Tren E typically gives most people less side effects than Ace

 

[Moorepower]

I'm going to start at 150mg a week and taper up to o no more than 300-350. If I don't run this tren cycle. I'm going run test EQ bc I've got plenty of test & eq as well as dbol & winny. Been wanting to put together a 16-20 weeker with EQ just haven't yet.
Thanks guys.

tren cycle.


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[jp4355]

Thinking ab my first go with Tren. Of course I'll run ace so if sides are too harsh I can quit. I'm going to running Test C @ 3-400 and winny and Proviron for 6 weeks at 50mg. Have arimidex & cycle assist on hand. Give me some pointers on tren dosage and caber and/or prami dosages. Would like to run tren 6-8 weeks. Previous cycle history includes. Test, var, winny, dbol, & mast. This will be 4th cycle.


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I've only one thought with the Proviron at 50 mg a day, for 6 weeks.
I hope you have a Good Girlfriend or Wife.
I only do 25 mg Proviron, when I'm on Cycle, and I wear out both my Girlfriends...........................................JP
P.S.
Personally for me it's Tren Ace, when I was on the Tren E, I punched out my Old Computer (expensive fit of rage).

 

[Moorepower]

Yeah that's what scares me ab tren. I can't afford to have a bad "snap" I do fine with test. I may play with Proviron dosage.


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[gymrat827]

if your going to use a lot of proviron, just run mast. Lots cheaper.

 

[fizzisnumerouno]

The reason a lot of people run into ace sides is because it's half life is 24-36 hours and taking it EOD allows levels to fluctuate tumultuously. Take it ED. Also make sure you get bloods while on and get thyroid checked.


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[ozcroboy]

I'm going
tren ace 100mg eod
Test prop 50mg eod
Stana caps 50mg ed

Plus all the on cycle supports n pct


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[fizzisnumerouno]

You may want to look into using www.sarms1.com gw while running tren.... Mainly because of the lethargy sides. Also, because it's a 19-nor you are gonna need an anti-prolactin. Www.Ag-guys.com has liquid dostinex. www.needtobuildmuscle.com has n2guard which will protect you on cycle.

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[KillaBig]

why winny with tren??

makes no sense......tren will cut you up too. Id consider running E instead of ace. Ace hit me hard as fuk and i stopped, eventually got E and went back on it.

Maybe myth or just Bro science but my last tren/test cycle.I was advised to run winny along with it to lessen tren sides.I know it's
been known to help with estrogen build up but I don't know if it helps with prolactin sides from the tren any way I ran it with great results and no ai's during cycle.
I have pics all try to figure out how to post them off my phone I always have a hell of a time.Lol

 

[BBBill]

I disagree and say take the test and winny with the tren. Tren when stacked with estrogen testosterones promotes more weight gain that Trenbolone alone can't. Cypionate or Enanthate would produce great gains in a bulking cycle.
A good choice to stack with Tren in a cutting cycle is Winstrol. Winstrol has a low binding affinity to the AR and thus will act in your body in vastly different ways than the Tren (i.e. in non-receptor mediated action). In addition, Winstrol is a DHT-based drug and Tren is a 19-nor& throw in some Testosterone (prop), and you'll have a cutting cycle which takes advantage of all 3 major families of Anabolic Steroids (Testosterone, 19-nor, and DHT), as well as vastly different AR-binding affinities and mechanisms of action.

 

[krazieone56]

The reason a lot of people run into ace sides is because it's half life is 24-36 hours and taking it EOD allows levels to fluctuate tumultuously. Take it ED. Also make sure you get bloods while on and get thyroid checked.


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Bam there it is. That's what I'm doing. 75 mg a day. And I feel great.

Only side I have is some night sweating and some crazy vivid dreams

KRAZIEONE