[sarms1] gw-50 [log]

[eddymerckx]

Okay, here is a log of what happens when a 47 y/o athlete (cycling sprinter)--1 more good finish away from sponsorship (free $10k bike - local races/no testing & pseudonym) gets heat stroke, breaks an ankle, and does not work out for over a year and becomes a fat body-----goes back to work with proper diet, workout, and GW-50 gets back into shape. I don't expect miracles as I am not 25 anymore but let's see what happens.


@5/30/2012
Age: 45.5
Ht: 5’11”
Wt: 198
BF: 13% (water tested)
Resting HR: 45
BP: low normal
RBC Count: 54
Test: 1422
Days cycling/week: 6
Miles: 475-600
40k Time Trial: 54:56
Flat Bench: 325
Squat: 440
DL: 305 (fused disks)

7/1/2012: Heat Stroke;
3/7/2013: broken ankle playing ultimate

@10/29/2013
Age: 47
Ht: 5’11”
Wt: 238
BF: not tested yet but guess >23%
Resting HR: 77
BP: on meds to lower.
RBC Count: 51 (I live at 6100 feet)
Test: 292
Days cycling/cardio/week: 0
Miles: 0
Flat Bench: 225
Squat: 300
DL: not doing any


Cycle: Sustenon 250 every 3.5 days to bring test up to about 1500-1700 (I have this dialed in over the years); adex on hand but my E tends not to spike that much.

Supplement: SARMS GW-501516 from SARMS1

 

[tarrow]

Wow this is pretty similar to my situation but I was done in by tenure demands and several closely timed deaths in my family and friends. I will follow closely. My plan is to use GW-50 and ostarine.

 

[eddymerckx]

amazing what happens when life gets in the way-I was just surprised at how easy it is to get out of a routine and how hard it is to restart.

 

[thedarkhalf]

Crazy story brother....best of luck to you on this ride!

 

[jbranken]

amazing what happens when life gets in the way-I was just surprised at how easy it is to get out of a routine and how hard it is to restart.

It's hard for me to get back into a routine if i get a nagging injury that puts me out for a week. Couldn't begin to imagine where you are. Best of luck to you and hopefully GW will help you reach your goals

 

[stevesmi]

yeah a lot of young guys don't get it. once you become an adult a lot of shit can happen literally which gets in the way of your training.

its easy to workout at 18 when all you have is your minimum wage job and some homework after school to worry about.

good luck eddy, i'm sure you will come back like a bandit and be stronger than before

 

[gymrat827]

I have 3 injuries from playing hockey in my younger days.....i jus deal with em now.

could only imagine how it is 20 yrs down the road. GL buddy, ill stick around.

 

[hurricane]

with ya buddy! following here and on ef

you will get where you wanna be.Its a marathon, not a sprint.But gw will help you get there faster !

 

[dylangemelli]

Good luck bro... I know you are going to be right back on track soon and gw will help to further enhance this for you... I am always here to help in any way bro...

 

[travishibachi]

with ya buddy! following here and on ef

you will get where you wanna be.Its a marathon, not a sprint.But gw will help you get there faster !

^This. Fitness and health is a marathon not a sprint. The same goes for becoming a more complete human being. You'll never be the same you that you were the day before and never being satisfied is part of the process.

 

[meathead96]

Awesome bro, I will be following and running some GW from sarms1 right along with you.

 

[eddymerckx]

awesome! I can't wait to start--I want my body of a year and a half ago back!!!

 

[dylangemelli]

awesome! I can't wait to start--I want my body of a year and a half ago back!!!

this is the first step in that direction... after this run we have to get you on a sarms triple stack before you are ready for a new aas cycle...

 

[RickRock]

In to follow the transformation bro!

 

[tarrow]

I will just be a month behind you. I am sure you will recover from your injuries better then eddy merckx himself did from his back injuries. I will follow diligently.

 

[travishibachi]

I will just be a month behind you. I am sure you will recover from your injuries better then eddy merckx himself did from his back injuries. I will follow diligently.

Back injuries are a fickle thing. Once I started focusing on my hip mobility back injuries became a thing of the past and I have two herniated discs. Hanging up to 10 min a day will also help since it decompresses your spine allowing more moisture between each spinal disc. And it can make you taller!

 

[hurricane]

in for updates. when they come in.

stay on track eddie! gimme your number and ill get on your ass, if needed haha

 

[eddymerckx]

Lol I will update often as I think a lot of older bros may really be interested to see if there is any way to help the process of "re-fitness" along--far too many of us get jammed-up with work/family/injuries and see the work needed to get back as just daunting. Too many ex-hardcore athletes resort to stupid diets or just give up.

 

[The Prodigy]

In for updates! Good Luck!

 

[travishibachi]

Do it to it, eddy. With GW you're gonna be a machine.

 

[eddymerckx]

So far day 5--increased blood oxygen saturation (I keep records b/c of asthma) and bonking (usually from low blood glycogen) I am really familiar with this and it very rarely happens to me but I suspect the energy pathways have been rewired a bit to grab fat for energy instead of easy to get glycogen (this matches exactly what the studies have shown).

I don't physically sense much change b/c I am still in the early phase of workouts except I do not have the complete lack of endurance that is felt after a layoff of 30 days (you lose about 80-90% of aerobic fitness in 30 days--funny though, almost no loss in the first 7).

No sides at all--which is what will make GW-50 replace clen/eca/t-3 or any other fat loss drug.

thus, one happy camper!!

 

[travishibachi]

So far day 5--increased blood oxygen saturation (I keep records b/c of asthma) and bonking (usually from low blood glycogen) I am really familiar with this and it very rarely happens to me but I suspect the energy pathways have been rewired a bit to grab fat for energy instead of easy to get glycogen (this matches exactly what the studies have shown).

I don't physically sense much change b/c I am still in the early phase of workouts except I do not have the complete lack of endurance that is felt after a layoff of 30 days (you lose about 80-90% of aerobic fitness in 30 days--funny though, almost no loss in the first 7).

No sides at all--which is what will make GW-50 replace clen/eca/t-3 or any other fat loss drug.

thus, one happy camper!!

Nice! And yes as far as aerobic conditioning you lose something to the effect of 25% after 2 weeks so that's awesome that GW is working as expected. Keep us posted!

 

[tarrow]

So far day 5--increased blood oxygen saturation (I keep records b/c of asthma) and bonking (usually from low blood glycogen) I am really familiar with this and it very rarely happens to me but I suspect the energy pathways have been rewired a bit to grab fat for energy instead of easy to get glycogen (this matches exactly what the studies have shown)....

Would you care to share the numbers for "increased blood oxygen saturation" and the method of measurement. I also have asthma and I am familiar with bonking especially in my early racing days way back when before I learned to eat better on the bike. So please let me know how you are measuring "increased blood oxygen saturation". and the amount of increase if you would be so kind.

 

[eddymerckx]

I use an Oxywatch C20 from Walgreens finger tip %SpO2

I have asthma and live at 6000 feet so I take my blood ox saturation a few times a day--always around 93% (96-98 when hard workout)--now, 5 days in a row, it's been 96 resting. Workouts felt, well, hard after such a long layoff as expected but on a 50 min spinning bike ride I was surprised by the increased cardio output (98-100 blood ox and 325 watts). Thus, after just 2 days, it does something to O2 transport--even resting. I keep crazy records so wee will see if this continues, was a quirk, or as suspect a result of the GW-50. I have done this too long not to notice when I feel different. I now know why the WADA (doping police) went and banned it already--for those who don't know that small % change is the difference between winning and never having a chance.

 

[travishibachi]

I use an Oxywatch C20 from Walgreens finger tip %SpO2

I have asthma and live at 6000 feet so I take my blood ox saturation a few times a day--always around 93% (96-98 when hard workout)--now, 5 days in a row, it's been 96 resting. Workouts felt, well, hard after such a long layoff as expected but on a 50 min spinning bike ride I was surprised by the increased cardio output (98-100 blood ox and 325 watts). Thus, after just 2 days, it does something to O2 transport--even resting. I keep crazy records so wee will see if this continues, was a quirk, or as suspect a result of the GW-50. I have done this too long not to notice when I feel different. I now know why the WADA (doping police) went and banned it already--for those who don't know that small % change is the difference between winning and never having a chance.

That's amazing, eddy. Have you ever thought about taking cordyceps especially since you live at 6000 ft? It also helps increase oxygen transport by acting as a bronchiodilator so it literally opens up your lungs allowing you to absorb more oxygen. I get really bad allergies during the summer and this seems to help whenever I feel any sort of shortness of breath. I used to have asthma really bad in the spring which was AWESOME considering I did track and XC ha. I'm interested in getting that Oxywatch just out of curiosity.

 

[eddymerckx]

the thing is the coolest and it's small so I take it on long rides(it was like $49)--that plus all the info from my Garmin I am a freak'n cycling emergency room. I take a combo cortosteroid and long-acting beta2-adrenergic agonist which controls it pretty well(with a rescue inhaler that I never use. The altitude does not affect me that much as I have lived here for 14 years. My wife's family grew up at 10,000 feet in the mountains and no matter what their blood saturation is always 99/100%--even with the flu/resp. infection. (hence why the NY Marathon was won by 2 Kenyans--for like the 15th time. We actually have a dozen pro teams that are HQ here just for the training.

That said, that is how I got heat stroke--a wildfire shifted with the winds when I was about 50 miles from home and was breathing smoke for about an hour--then I just sorta fell over and passed out. Blood ox was 79%; temp was 105.3 HR was 170ish--it sucked.

 

[travishibachi]

the thing is the coolest and it's small so I take it on long rides(it was like $49)--that plus all the info from my Garmin I am a freak'n cycling emergency room. I take a combo cortosteroid and long-acting beta2-adrenergic agonist which controls it pretty well(with a rescue inhaler that I never use. The altitude does not affect me that much as I have lived here for 14 years. My wife's family grew up at 10,000 feet in the mountains and no matter what their blood saturation is always 99/100%--even with the flu/resp. infection. (hence why the NY Marathon was won by 2 Kenyans--for like the 15th time. We actually have a dozen pro teams that are HQ here just for the training.

That said, that is how I got heat stroke--a wildfire shifted with the winds when I was about 50 miles from home and was breathing smoke for about an hour--then I just sorta fell over and passed out. Blood ox was 79%; temp was 105.3 HR was 170ish--it sucked.

Ugh...smoke inhalation :/
At least you're better now! Plus you're taking GW I am extremely jealous! Haha

 

[eddymerckx]

Ugh...smoke inhalation :/
At least you're better now! Plus you're taking GW I am extremely jealous! Haha

hell yea--it just sucked as it took a good 8 months for the swelling in my lungs to go down--I just kept riding east away from the mountains thinking the smoke would clear up---passing many stores that sold masks(<--perfect 20/20 hindsight). The GW is just weird--it really feels like EPO but even better b/c EPO is worthless if you are not in muscular shape--the GW /w the test and I am really not that sore from workouts --I think it's b/c of the better respiration b/c I hit the iron hard on Monday and that would usually mean (for me) Wed morning should have been hell--but not bad at all--One observation, I think it has defin affected some metabolic processes b/c I am much thirstier.

 

[travishibachi]

hell yea--it just sucked as it took a good 8 months for the swelling in my lungs to go down--I just kept riding east away from the mountains thinking the smoke would clear up---passing many stores that sold masks(<--perfect 20/20 hindsight). The GW is just weird--it really feels like EPO but even better b/c EPO is worthless if you are not in muscular shape--the GW /w the test and I am really not that sore from workouts --I think it's b/c of the better respiration b/c I hit the iron hard on Monday and that would usually mean (for me) Wed morning should have been hell--but not bad at all--One observation, I think it has defin affected some metabolic processes b/c I am much thirstier.

Yeah EPO is highly underrated in my opinion. Regular people and even guys that have been working out for years tend to put cardiovascular to the wayside. Even when I do high rep deadlift workouts I become out of breath or doing Turkish getups with a kettlebell. And if you're much thirstier make sure you're drinking extra water! Since your metabolism is increasing that means your organs are going to need more fluids to operate as well. It's like our body is primarily water or something

 

[tarrow]

Thanks Eddymerckx, for that comprehensive info. This kind of info is really useful. I too am on combo cortosteroid and long-acting beta2-adrenergic agonist (advair) and have had a diagnosis of Asthma since childhood. Unfortunately I also have a reactive exercise induced asthma, which I can ride through if I am in good shape but which requires an albuterol inhaler prophylactically. So it is good to hear of your success and even better to hear of your treatment adherence.

 

[eddymerckx]

Thanks Eddymerckx, for that comprehensive info. This kind of info is really useful. I too am on combo cortosteroid and long-acting beta2-adrenergic agonist (advair) and have had a diagnosis of Asthma since childhood. Unfortunately I also have a reactive exercise induced asthma, which I can ride through if I am in good shape but which requires an albuterol inhaler prophylactically. So it is good to hear of your success and even better to hear of your treatment adherence.

I am the same way and take advair myself. I don't have to take the albuterol except occasionally in the spring/summer/mid-fall. The problem with albuterol--even inhaled it that it is a cns and thus HR goes up and leaved a smaller window between resting and max heart rate. I am doing a ride outside on Sunday and will see how I really feel as that is my true test as the air is full of late weeds etc.

 

[hurricane]

hell yea--it just sucked as it took a good 8 months for the swelling in my lungs to go down--I just kept riding east away from the mountains thinking the smoke would clear up---passing many stores that sold masks(<--perfect 20/20 hindsight). The GW is just weird--it really feels like EPO but even better b/c EPO is worthless if you are not in muscular shape--the GW /w the test and I am really not that sore from workouts --I think it's b/c of the better respiration b/c I hit the iron hard on Monday and that would usually mean (for me) Wed morning should have been hell--but not bad at all--One observation, I think it has defin affected some metabolic processes b/c I am much thirstier.

its insane.i said gw is the best thing i have ever experienced for the added endurance but i never went near epo .It much safer also obviously.

 

[RickRock]

Amazing information and detail in this log here. I'm loving every time I read anything in it. This can be a very good recourse for anyone wanting to run GW for endurance purposes

 

[meathead96]

I just started my GW today. Your log has been getting me so pumped for this!

 

[The Prodigy]

I just started my GW today. Your log has been getting me so pumped for this!

4, 8, or 12 week run? GW is my favorite. It will make you speechless because it works so amazing words can't describe it.

 

[eddymerckx]

I just started my GW today. Your log has been getting me so pumped for this!

Glad the info help bro. I just keep detailed logs for years and now with the satellite watches and power meters that are part on my rear wheel I have mad info--okay a bit too much but I can detect the smallest change...

I have to say I have not done anything like GW-50 before---and the numbers and physiology back it up.

Look for the post late tomorrow when I will have some hard numbers after a 50 miler in the mountains ---normally would not try it yet but the GW 50 is giving me confidence I usually do not get before two 6-8 weeks into base training. The one mountain 15 miles up 4800 feet will be the test.

 

[jbranken]

Glad the info help bro. I just keep detailed logs for years and now with the satellite watches and power meters that are part on my rear wheel I have mad info--okay a bit too much but I can detect the smallest change...

I have to say I have not done anything like GW-50 before---and the numbers and physiology back it up.

Look for the post late tomorrow when I will have some hard numbers after a 50 miler in the mountains ---normally would not try it yet but the GW 50 is giving me confidence I usually do not get before two 6-8 weeks into base training. The one mountain 15 miles up 4800 feet will be the test.

Holy shit. Are you going to survive? Haha definitely looking foward to tomorrow's update. I could never do this

 

[jp4355]

This time of year, it must get awfully cold on the bike, up so high. I live in Pa., and I don't look forward to biking some days, like this upcoming week. Question, at 47, do you think you feel the cold more, than when you were younger. I know I certainly do, but I 'am 13 years your senior. I 'am postlaminectomy (l-4, l-5), and fighting with some Deg. Hip Disease, in both hips. I wish you all the best, getting back into shape, Sincerely!
It was a very long road for me!

 

[travishibachi]

Glad the info help bro. I just keep detailed logs for years and now with the satellite watches and power meters that are part on my rear wheel I have mad info--okay a bit too much but I can detect the smallest change...

I have to say I have not done anything like GW-50 before---and the numbers and physiology back it up.

Look for the post late tomorrow when I will have some hard numbers after a 50 miler in the mountains ---normally would not try it yet but the GW 50 is giving me confidence I usually do not get before two 6-8 weeks into base training. The one mountain 15 miles up 4800 feet will be the test.

I'm very interested to read this update now, sir. You can do it just stay safe and good luck! I hate running in cold weather let alone cycling.

 

[meathead96]

Glad the info help bro. I just keep detailed logs for years and now with the satellite watches and power meters that are part on my rear wheel I have mad info--okay a bit too much but I can detect the smallest change...

I have to say I have not done anything like GW-50 before---and the numbers and physiology back it up.

Look for the post late tomorrow when I will have some hard numbers after a 50 miler in the mountains ---normally would not try it yet but the GW 50 is giving me confidence I usually do not get before two 6-8 weeks into base training. The one mountain 15 miles up 4800 feet will be the test.

Damn man your crazy. Good luck with that, hope the GW helps!

 

[eddymerckx]

Results of Sunday's ride.

average speed 16.2 (much closer to mid-off season base training not where I am now--where the ave speed should be 14 +/-

Average HR 79% of max (which includes a 15 mile climb--closer to prime season shape--not fat lard ass out of shape)

SpO2 was 99-100% every time i checked (usually 97-99)

BP 1/5 hour after finishing 112/71 (more akin to prime season)

Food--PB& J before; 1 Atomic Tab and a 2nd at @2.5 hours (after the hill); 10 mg of GW-50 before; 3 electrolyte replacement pills; water and 1 6 oz. coke (yes, even the pros use it as it is better than the most expensive electrolyte drinks)

Next day--legs NOT dead as they should have been. (not the test b/c I have run test while training already) so must be better cellular transport of crap out of my system.

Conclusion. body worked as if well into training routine and 30 lbs lighter--I stayed at in the middle of the mid-pack except on the hill I was at the from (which I never am)--no other supps

 

[travishibachi]

Pardon my French but FUCK YEAH! That's awesome sir I wonder how you would have done if you had taken all 20 mg before your ride. And if your legs aren't dead as you say they should have been then I'm guessing the GW helped to buffer more lactic acid and minimized intramuscular damage? I would say GW is working pretty damn well for you. And doesn't coke contain sodium bicarbonate? That's supposed to be a good supplement for increasing reps during weights or other endurance-based activities.

 

[tarrow]

That was all I needed to hear to get off my ass and pull the trigger on this stuff. I am going to go with ostarine instead of test myself, nothing against test but i am saving that for next year.

 

[eddymerckx]

That was all I needed to hear to get off my ass and pull the trigger on this stuff. I am going to go with ostarine instead of test myself, nothing against test but i am saving that for next year.

I am just on the Cardrine myself (GW-50) and with your/out asthma you may really like it--the blood O2 saturation is just to significant to chalk up to any other cause as it has been sustained for almost 2 weeks. You will love the stuff bro--

 

[jp4355]

Hey, that ride was awesome, I take it that you surprised yourself. It's also nice to see that the ubiquitous Coke, is still in the picture. I don't drink many, but it's still my favorite. Well it's onward and upward from here, so to speak. I wish you continued improvement, in your training.

 

[eddymerckx]

Hey, that ride was awesome, I take it that you surprised yourself. It's also nice to see that the ubiquitous Coke, is still in the picture. I don't drink many, but it's still my favorite. Well it's onward and upward from here, so to speak. I wish you continued improvement, in your training.

yea, coke is underrated-the trick is to get the Mexican Coke (sucrose) not US Coke (high fructose corn syrup). when in my best shape and doing 100-130 mile rides I stop at a couple of country stores in the mountains around here and they all carry the good stuff (and cater to cyclists). Thanks, hope to keep improving--long way back but I have until March-April.

 

[jp4355]

Hell, so that's what it was. I remember I was in Cancun in 1980 and 82, and it was very hot both times when I got there. So instead of having a Corona, I had a Coke both times, and thought, this is the best damn Coke I've ever had. Thanks for that info!

 

[travishibachi]

That was all I needed to hear to get off my ass and pull the trigger on this stuff. I am going to go with ostarine instead of test myself, nothing against test but i am saving that for next year.

Good call, sir. I myself am in my first week of an 8 week cycle of ostarine run at 25 mg ED.

 

[tarrow]

I am just on the Cardrine myself (GW-50) and with your/out asthma you may really like it--the blood O2 saturation is just to significant to chalk up to any other cause as it has been sustained for almost 2 weeks. You will love the stuff bro--

I figured I would add the Osta, my old bones have a decade more years on them then yours and I am hoping the ostarine helps sooth those old joints a bit and I have a few old racing injuries from way back (collarbone twice, arm and wrist once) that I dont want to slow me down. I will keep you posted how it goes.

 

[dylangemelli]

excellent work bro... i am so happy to see the great effects gw is having on you and how it is getting you back on the right track at such a rapid pace... keep up the good work... you are going to be better than you ever were with this...

 

[meathead96]

Awesome results on your ride. I'm really glad your getting results from the GW.

 

[hurricane]

yea, coke is underrated-the trick is to get the Mexican Coke (sucrose) not US Coke (high fructose corn syrup). when in my best shape and doing 100-130 mile rides I stop at a couple of country stores in the mountains around here and they all carry the good stuff (and cater to cyclists). Thanks, hope to keep improving--long way back but I have until March-April.

very happy to see an experienced rider try gw and see how great it really is.thank you so much for this log bro

 

[shrivelled]

That was all I needed to hear to get off my ass and pull the trigger on this stuff. I am going to go with ostarine instead of test myself, nothing against test but i am saving that for next year.

Got some ostarine right now bro and its clearly the real deal

 

[eddymerckx]

freakin' sinus infection--so slow the last few days but still down 14 lbs (but clothes fitting suggest more) and bench is up to 265; still struggling w/ squats (I don't like them and they do not like me)--may go back to hack squat and the 90 degree squat at my gym.

able to do two spinning classes in a row after a 45 minute warm-up on my own- (rare--and if you have ever done one you will know why) w/HR in cardio base range except for the intervals.

bp is a happy 101/65
SpO2 getting better
Resting HR a bit slower to come down but it's only been three weeks so I am not worried and the time to return to resting HR is quicker so it's all good.

tried to donated but blood crit at 55 so my doc drained me. (which I do not understand--who better to have high crit than a post-surgical patient.

My trial is over this week--it's Hanukkah for us Hebrew types and money needs to do to the kids and I can say w/o hesitation the GW-50 works and does so in both fat loss and endurance--which is why there was a whole article written about the cycling doping bodies rush to get a test for it---nailed a bunch of Russian guys for it.

 

[RickRock]

freakin' sinus infection--so slow the last few days but still down 14 lbs (but clothes fitting suggest more) and bench is up to 265; still struggling w/ squats (I don't like them and they do not like me)--may go back to hack squat and the 90 degree squat at my gym.

able to do two spinning classes in a row after a 45 minute warm-up on my own- (rare--and if you have ever done one you will know why) w/HR in cardio base range except for the intervals.

bp is a happy 101/65
SpO2 getting better
Resting HR a bit slower to come down but it's only been three weeks so I am not worried and the time to return to resting HR is quicker so it's all good.

tried to donated but blood crit at 55 so my doc drained me. (which I do not understand--who better to have high crit than a post-surgical patient.

My trial is over this week--it's Hanukkah for us Hebrew types and money needs to do to the kids and I can say w/o hesitation the GW-50 works and does so in both fat loss and endurance--which is why there was a whole article written about the cycling doping bodies rush to get a test for it---nailed a bunch of Russian guys for it.

Very nice update man!

 

[meathead96]

Sinus infections blow, I've had a lot of allergy problems as of late. Good work on the bench increase. Hope you get better soon and keep at it.

 

[eddymerckx]

Sinus infections blow, I've had a lot of allergy problems as of late. Good work on the bench increase. Hope you get better soon and keep at it.

thanks bro--seems everyone I talk to has sinus issues (and who never usually have them) by mid july Colorado is usually brown--but it was green until a few weeks ago--tried all sorts of meds/sprays --worthless

worked legs today--and when I was on the 90 degrees leg press I thought I was going to drown in snot.

still a lot more weight to drop but happy to have my shirts fit tight over shoulders/bis --love this GW-50--I would ask santa but he sees the mezuzah on my door and passes on by and hanukkah starts next week and throws off that whole giving mentality

 

[jbranken]

freakin' sinus infection--so slow the last few days but still down 14 lbs (but clothes fitting suggest more) and bench is up to 265; still struggling w/ squats (I don't like them and they do not like me)--may go back to hack squat and the 90 degree squat at my gym.

able to do two spinning classes in a row after a 45 minute warm-up on my own- (rare--and if you have ever done one you will know why) w/HR in cardio base range except for the intervals.

bp is a happy 101/65
SpO2 getting better
Resting HR a bit slower to come down but it's only been three weeks so I am not worried and the time to return to resting HR is quicker so it's all good.

tried to donated but blood crit at 55 so my doc drained me. (which I do not understand--who better to have high crit than a post-surgical patient.

My trial is over this week--it's Hanukkah for us Hebrew types and money needs to do to the kids and I can say w/o hesitation the GW-50 works and does so in both fat loss and endurance--which is why there was a whole article written about the cycling doping bodies rush to get a test for it---nailed a bunch of Russian guys for it.

Thanks for the feedback and research. Do you think you'll try other products such as sarms in the future to stack with gw?

 

[eddymerckx]

Thanks for the feedback and research. Do you think you'll try other products such as sarms in the future to stack with gw?

Not sure--I see GW-50 as a perfect match for me (endurance and strength) and not in the danger class as clen/eca/t-3/stims. I am also a bit old and sorta used to plain old test or test and equipoise as I know exactly how I react/what dose for the goal/etc. I have tried almost everything there is except cheque drops, halo, nor any prohormones as I never had a need or desire.

That said, given the way the GW-50 worked I believe I will use it in January through April w/a low test dose to really increase my strength/lower bf/increase endurance.

 

[shrivelled]

sounds sweet bro ^^ and thanks for taking the time to share it with us

 

[hurricane]

Not sure--I see GW-50 as a perfect match for me (endurance and strength) and not in the danger class as clen/eca/t-3/stims. I am also a bit old and sorta used to plain old test or test and equipoise as I know exactly how I react/what dose for the goal/etc. I have tried almost everything there is except cheque drops, halo, nor any prohormones as I never had a need or desire.

That said, given the way the GW-50 worked I believe I will use it in January through April w/a low test dose to really increase my strength/lower bf/increase endurance.

gw is the most amazing thing i have ever used for endurance bro and the fat loss was sick also and ive tried everything barring epo.Im glad you agree, i respect your opinion greatly.

 

[meathead96]

Not sure--I see GW-50 as a perfect match for me (endurance and strength) and not in the danger class as clen/eca/t-3/stims. I am also a bit old and sorta used to plain old test or test and equipoise as I know exactly how I react/what dose for the goal/etc. I have tried almost everything there is except cheque drops, halo, nor any prohormones as I never had a need or desire.

That said, given the way the GW-50 worked I believe I will use it in January through April w/a low test dose to really increase my strength/lower bf/increase endurance.

Yeah it does seem to be very low in sides and much safer in general than typical cutting agents.

 

[eddymerckx]

gw is the most amazing thing i have ever used for endurance bro and the fat loss was sick also and ive tried everything barring epo.Im glad you agree, i respect your opinion greatly.

thanks bro--much respect to you as well.

I have to say I think GW-50 is better than EPO--for people who also run test as the androgens will give the same results on your crit level just w/o the extreme danger. Problem w/EPO is you must be monitored by a doc and do weekly blood tests to see when it starts to work (it's varies widely among people) or else you end up in the position of "oh it's not working better take more" and then before you know it your blood is glue "Between 1987 and 1990, no fewer than 20 Belgian and Dutch cyclists died from otherwise inexplicable nocturnal heart attacks." see link below

As I have said, I messed with t-3 when I was stuck at 10% bf and I did it conservatively and ended-up waiting almost a year to get thyroids levels correct (but the "new normal" was not 100% of my before numbers).

Clen--well the old bros know I left EF over that very compound a few years ago.

and ECA, while it's one of the few with real science that it works, the "works" part is only a few lbs different than the placebo...

Had bloods done and the only difference of before and after GW-50 is my cholesterol numbers were markedly better (even while on gear).


http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/21/opinion/21iht-edwheat_ed3_.html

 

[eddymerckx]

Yeah it does seem to be very low in sides and much safer in general than typical cutting agents.

I am really not sure I had any sides except the "bonking"--following a high protein meal--but such is easily fixed.

Apart from that, 10mg 2x a day I saw no other discernible sides at all--and there is not a fat burner on the planet that does not screw with your CNS--GW-50 actually lowered the numbers allowing a greater window to workout. Good stuff--just need a 2nd job to get more

 

[jbranken]

Great info. You she see the pushback this compound gets on every other forum... Some people are so stuck in their ways and believe anything they read, they're not willing to give gw a try

 

[eddymerckx]

Great info. You she see the pushback this compound gets on every other forum... Some people are so stuck in their ways and believe anything they read, they're not willing to give gw a try

I am fairly set in my gear use but when I saw the World Anti Doping Agency going freaking ballistic over GW-50 I knew there had to be something significant to it--especially b/c they adopted a "scare" tactic based on tumors in mice at doses a few hundred times more than for human use---they clearly saw GW-50 was a true performance enhancer and a threat to their little monopoly they had over everything an athlete uses--which said to me it was a must try

 

[meathead96]

Yeah anything that works they will ban haha

 

[eddymerckx]

Great info. You she see the pushback this compound gets on every other forum... Some people are so stuck in their ways and believe anything they read, they're not willing to give gw a try

yea, and bros will continue to die in their sleep b/c they do not know how unpredictable the onset of epo working really is--that is why the pros used MDs to monitor the use of it. The thing is, anyone doing test on/off for years will have a higher crit and add equipoise and its the same.