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Iamjr89

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I have posted a couple times regarding a nandrolone cycle that I ran earlier this year. To give the abbreviated version, it was 3 months of test prop and two months of nandrolone. I ran the test two weeks before the nandrolone and two weeks after. I had a very sorry pct after and here I am now 6 months later with what I think is deca dick. Not having morning wood or randoms throughout the day and I guess I really haven't tried to get hard on my own for sex I have just been feeling the wife out and taking cialis when I suspect its coming. The cialis has been working although not quite as well the last two times. I'm currently in the middle of the "perfect pct" right now which doesn't seem to be doing a thing. Its quite frustrating to have spent so much on the HcGenerate ES and see no change. I lost all 17 pounds that I gained on cycle so I am back to my natural size but manged to keep a little bit of the new strength.

A couple questions come to my mind. I have some hygetropin Hgh that I want to run. My question is will this do anything at all for libido and function if I am indeed suffering deca dick? Also, with the low testosterone in my system presently and whatever other issues the nandrolone may have caused me, can I really make gym progress or am I just spinning my wheels?

Are there any reasons I should not be able to take hgh at this time?
 
I suppose I should add that I am taking perfect pct minus sarms and aromasin, only because I don't know where to get the aromasin
 
Iamjr89 said:
I have posted a couple times regarding a nandrolone cycle that I ran earlier this year. To give the abbreviated version, it was 3 months of test prop and two months of nandrolone. I ran the test two weeks before the nandrolone and two weeks after. I had a very sorry pct after and here I am now 6 months later with what I think is deca dick. Not having morning wood or randoms throughout the day and I guess I really haven't tried to get hard on my own for sex I have just been feeling the wife out and taking cialis when I suspect its coming. The cialis has been working although not quite as well the last two times. I'm currently in the middle of the "perfect pct" right now which doesn't seem to be doing a thing. Its quite frustrating to have spent so much on the HcGenerate ES and see no change. I lost all 17 pounds that I gained on cycle so I am back to my natural size but manged to keep a little bit of the new strength.

A couple questions come to my mind. I have some hygetropin Hgh that I want to run. My question is will this do anything at all for libido and function if I am indeed suffering deca dick? Also, with the low testosterone in my system presently and whatever other issues the nandrolone may have caused me, can I really make gym progress or am I just spinning my wheels?

Are there any reasons I should not be able to take hgh at this time?
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Since you got the deca dick on cycle, I assume that you were not using the right ancillaries, so even with the perfect PCT protocol it will take some time for your libido and erections to be back. Personally, I am on PCT as well right now, only I am using the ordinary HCGenerate, and the effects are there to be seen, so I don't really think that it is about the HCGenerate - it is about how suppressed you are. Also, since you were using a nandrolone, and most probably you were not using the right ancillaries, you might have to include into the PCT protocol some cabergoline. Besides, if you started the PCT right away, and used nolvadex, you might have gotten your prolactin levels even worse. All in all, keep running the perfect PCT, and I think you should be back in combat in no time. For the next time, apart from using cabergoline, it would be a very good idea to use proviron as well, as it is the best measure to prevent deca dick.
 
I have published articles on what causes deca dick.

it isn't what you see parroted on forums all the time.

the #1 reason for deca dick is failing to offset DHN with DHT.

what happens when you run nandrolone is that it metabolizes into dihydronandrolone and swamps dihydrotestosterone.

you used testosterone with your deca, but testosterone only metabolizes into 5% DHT!!! so stacking in testosterone with it is NOT the solution. instead you should have stacked in proviron which is pure DHT. that would have prevented your problem

i bet even today your DHN levels are too much. so what you should do is be patient and continue the perfect pct, eventually shit will balance out for you. but in the future always use proviron while on.

guys in the old days stacked deca with proviron for this reason, they didn't use test +deca

now will using caber offset your issues? probably yes, but that is covering up the problem. so using caber while on cycle is great, but it is merely a band aid for underlying problems. you need to use that proviron

if you just want to COVER shit up then yeah run testosterone high and use caber with your deca. but if you want to truly prevent the issue in the first place then take my advice above
 
HGH has nothing to do with libido and won't do anything from preventing deca dick. It won't hurt it to add but HGH does not effect testosterone levels in the body in any way.

You kind of answered your own question in your thread. You ran a very sorry PCT and your natural testosterone did not recover.

You are smart to re-do a proper PCT such as the perfect PCT protocol. However, recovery will take time. If your natural testosterone production was suppressed for a long period of time, it won't restart over night. It's not a light switch. Recovery will happen, but it will take time.

Be patient. Keep following the perfect PCT protocol. You should start to feel like yourself again once the PCT protocol is done.

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Iamjr89 said:
I suppose I should add that I am taking perfect pct minus sarms and aromasin, only because I don't know where to get the aromasin
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You can order the SARMS and aromasin from ag-guys.com and sarms1.com
 
Thank you all very much for taking the time to read. No, I did not use caber. I tried ordering some at one point but my bank kept rejecting the transaction for some reason. If you guys could help me out with sources at all for caber and proviron that would be a great help. I am in the US.

My logic with the hgh was that I've heard that it improved libido so I wondered if that function could possibly trump deca dick, but apparently not. However, I don't want to continue losing size or strength so thats why I seek advice now on if it would be wise to start taking it in my current state.

Stevesmi I absorbed what you wrote me about DHT and DHN. Is there anything I can do at this point to possibly "mask" the issue of ED while my body continues to recover?

Last question on this, I have tren in my closet for next cycle...will it likely give me all the same troubles as nandrolone?
 
A lot of guys are under the misconception that SERMS and other PCT products will "restart" your HPTA. That is completely false. Only your body can get natural test going again. The SERMS make it a "softer landing" but you need time to recover. You are doing the right thing by running the PCT now but it will take time. Especially with something like deca.
 
Okay thanks again. I found you guys' link for bloodwork and I am going to get it done this week so you guys can hopefully help me at least minimize the problem. Will the female panel be enough for you to work with? DHT? Prolactin?
 
How high was your deca dose? Did I miss that?

I notice lots of time guys rub the deca far too high...and that's an issue.
 
Iamjr89 said:
Okay thanks again. I found you guys' link for bloodwork and I am going to get it done this week so you guys can hopefully help me at least minimize the problem. Will the female panel be enough for you to work with? DHT? Prolactin?
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You want to get the following tested:
testosterone
LH
FSH
prolactin
estrogen
thyroid
liver values
 
aggirl said:
How high was your deca dose? Did I miss that?

I notice lots of time guys rub the deca far too high...and that's an issue.
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For 8 weeks I ran test prop and nandrolone together. I eased into it starting at 310 mg test, 250 mg nandrolone trying to keep a 4:5 ratio as I had read. Then in the third week, I bumped up to 440 mg test prop, 350 mg nandrolone. 2 weeks of test prop prior and post nandrolone.

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Thanks muskate, will do
 
muskate said:
You want to get the following tested:
testosterone
LH
FSH
prolactin
estrogen
thyroid
liver values
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This is a perfect list of what you want tested.
 
I see several thyroid tests. Which one do I need specifically

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I see several thyroid tests. Which one do I need specifically?
 
Iamjr89 said:
Which thyroid test?
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Usually, people have enough with just the TSH, since it is quite descriptive of the other aspects of thyroid functions. However, if you can afford it, I would highly recommend doing all the thyroid tests.
 
Iamjr89 said:
Which thyroid test?
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You need to get T3, T4 and TSH all tested.

There is a lot of misinformation on thyroid hormones.
TSH = thyroid stimulating hormone.
T4 = storage form of the thyroid hormone in the body
T3 = active form of the thyroid hormone in the body

What matters most is T3. If T4 and TSH are normal but T3 is low, you will have problems because T3 is the actual active form of thyroid in the body.

You need to get all 3 tested.
 
Thanks again muskate. I did end up buying a test that includes all 3. It was TSH with free T3 and T4. I also got the female hormone panel + prolactin.
 
gearhead said:
bro use imgur.com
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Thanks ill check it out

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Here's a small update. My doctor ordered tests for me for thyroid, estogen, and testosterone but they made some mistake apparently and only tested my thyroid. My TSH came back at 1.02, my T4 was 1.2. Both falling pretty much dead in the middle of target range if I'm not mistaken.
 
My doctor ordered the wrong labs on the first go. I go back tomorrow after work for test, and estrogen tests. Then I paid privately for a prolactin test which I may be able to have done in the next couple days
 
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