Coming off long cycle

[elvis15767]

Ok so I have been using aas for about 8 years but steady the last 2 years and have been very stupid about many things, last blood results have proven that.. I have learned that my personality is addictive which I knew.. So after much thought and a talk with the wife I'm going to come off completely for good and only ever use sarms down the road much later on..

My question is what is the best way about going about this to get my body back to as normal as possibly... I was kinda going off the "perfect pct" with what I came up with in hopes it'll work..

Week 1-2 hcgenerate 5 pills a day
Week 1-10 gw 20mg daily split
Week 1-2 aromasin 12.5 eod
3-4 7.5 eod
Week 3-8
clomid 100/100/50/50/25/12.5
Week 3-7
Nolvadex 40/20/20/20/10
Week 3-8
Mk-2866 50/25/25/25/12.5

Wait a month after that and get more blood work to see what's up

Thoughts??

 

[LevButlerov]

That is too much clomid - use as much as it is recommended in the perfect PCT protocol. Remember, with drugs and medicines, more is not always better, and this is definitely such a case. This additional dosage will not improve recovery, but will definitely cause side effects. The perfect PCT is as complete and comprehensive as it gets, so there is no need to change the dosages there.

 

[elvis15767]

That is too much clomid - use as much as it is recommended in the perfect PCT protocol. Remember, with drugs and medicines, more is not always better, and this is definitely such a case. This additional dosage will not improve recovery, but will definitely cause side effects. The perfect PCT is as complete and comprehensive as it gets, so there is no need to change the dosages there.

Thanks bud I will take it back to the protocol then

 

[stevesmi]

PCT is to give you a soft landing when steroids are coming out of your system

there is no such thing as 'kickstarting HPTA'.. no drug can do that.. think about if such a thing was possible.. nobody would ever need to do HRT for life right?

in your case using steroids for 8 years and the past 2 years abusing I am not optimistic about your chances of actually coming back but it's POSSIBLE and can't hurt to try. i would do the perfect pct for 12 weeks then you can bridge with hcgenerate and run bloods 4 weeks after. see what your LH, FSH, and total test look like. if they are bouncing you got a chance.. if they stay low then you probably are a candidate for HRT for life

 

[AddarInc]

Thanks bud I will take it back to the protocol then

Wise man!!

 

[Mobster]

I'm glad you recognize that staying on was part of your addictive nature. Equally, as we've seen here, you immediately looked to try to change the PCT protocol. If we're to help you to the best of our ability try what we suggest first - by all means check it out and debate it but (as I'd hope) if it looks right then give it a go. Best of luck!

 

[elvis15767]

I'm glad you recognize that staying on was part of your addictive nature. Equally, as we've seen here, you immediately looked to try to change the PCT protocol. If we're to help you to the best of our ability try what we suggest first - by all means check it out and debate it but (as I'd hope) if it looks right then give it a go. Best of luck!

Thanks bud really the only reason I was changing it slightly was due to the fact that I have been on so long and assumed that it was designed for the normal person on standard cycle and was hoping for a better out come.. By no means was disputing the effectiveness of it under normal conditions..

Im.just hoping I'm not messed up to the point of needing trt

 

[muskate]

Thanks bud really the only reason I was changing it slightly was due to the fact that I have been on so long and assumed that it was designed for the normal person on standard cycle and was hoping for a better out come.. By no means was disputing the effectiveness of it under normal conditions..

Im.just hoping I'm not messed up to the point of needing trt

After the PCT, wait 1 month and then get blood work done. I suspect that if you run a really good PCT, you won't need TRT. The body is pretty versatile and a good PCT should restart your natural testosterone production.

If the blood work shows testosterone levels not in the normal range, then sadly you will need TRT.

Remember to wait at least 1 month after the PCT to get blood work done otherwise the PCT drugs will still be in your body and give the blood work a false reading.

 

[elvis15767]

After the PCT, wait 1 month and then get blood work done. I suspect that if you run a really good PCT, you won't need TRT. The body is pretty versatile and a good PCT should restart your natural testosterone production.

If the blood work shows testosterone levels not in the normal range, then sadly you will need TRT.

Remember to wait at least 1 month after the PCT to get blood work done otherwise the PCT drugs will still be in your body and give the blood work a false reading.

That's good to hear hopefully you are correct in my case... I will most defiant wait the full month.. I know all the products I will be using are top notch and dosed accurately.. Everything I have one hand right now I just received from sarms1 and needtobuildmuscle.. The rest I'm getting from roidmass to be certain I'm using the best stuff I can

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

I am glad you are going to try to let your system recover. I recommend the Perfect PCT but I would highly recommend getting 2 bottles of HCGenerate ES and running that for 8 weeks straight. That will make a big difference while you are going through the protocol and running the other compounds.