Steroid cycle

[Dndndn]

Hello. I want to make steroid cycle with methane. I have read the drug can cause side effects, if the dose is big. The article says these things about methane:
- it will starts aromatizating, if you use it over 130 days.
- it will cause gyno, if you use very big doses.

Other side effects: gyno, blood in semen, baldbess, liver damage, kidney damage, heart problems and etc...

I want to ask what will happen if i take 20mg daily and estrogen blockers? This will be my firs steroid cycle. Im begginer, so could you explain me how exactly to do the cycle? Will i experience problems on 20mg daily? What other medications shoukd i take during and after the cycle? Should i do full blood test before the cycle? Tell me everything.

We have family history with diabete on my mother side. Is methane dangerous to the pancreas? I dont know am i prone to diabete

 

[Mobster]

Methane is NOT a drug. It's a flammable gas. Did you mean something else?

 

[Dndndn]

Methane is NOT a drug. It's a flammable gas. Did you mean something else?

Methandienone

 

[stevesmi]

the article is wrong.. if you take dbol for any length of time your estrogen sky rockets.. run an AI from day 1

and type 2 diabetics is caused by poor lifestyle, has nothing to do with your mom's family having it..

what are your stats? age? being overweight and eating shitty will cause lots of health problems

 

[Dndndn]

the article is wrong.. if you take dbol for any length of time your estrogen sky rockets.. run an AI from day 1

and type 2 diabetics is caused by poor lifestyle, has nothing to do with your mom's family having it..

what are your stats? age? being overweight and eating shitty will cause lots of health problems

Ok. Anti-eatrogen pills from day one. I want to ask is it true every dose of methandienone needs anti estrogens? Because i think only high doses will aromatizing. Is 20mg high?

Im not overweight. I eat healthy. And my age is 18, almost 19.

How toxic is methandienone to the liver? And can the drug put damage on my pancreas and kidney? Only one time in my life i drank alchohol (around 600 mililiters) and i ended up in a hospital with pancreas problems. Luckily, now the organ is regenerated and healthy and have no problems. This is why i want to ask is methandienone's toxicity equivalent to the alchohol's toxicity? I want to know the dangerous dose of the dbol and the safe dose of dbal. This is my first cycle so i will start with safe (low) dose to see how my body will react.

 

[Mobster]

You are WAY too young to be using steroids

 

[Dndndn]

You are WAY too young to be using steroids

Yes, i know it. But currently i can not train naturally, becuse i want to make some achievements ASAP. I want to have big muscles and low body fat. You know its impossible to have big muscles and low body fat without steroids, right? Im training naturally and i see results but im not as big as i want to be. The truth is i want to compete in big bodybuilding shows. I want to show myself to the world.

 

[dylangemelli]

you literally could not understand how foolish you sound, not even close... you are going to royally fuck yourself up and noone here is going to advise such absurdity whatsoever, i can assure you that..

 

[Dndndn]

you literally could not understand how foolish you sound, not even close... you are going to royally fuck yourself up and noone here is going to advise such absurdity whatsoever, i can assure you that..

What will happen if i make some steroud cycles? I know a guy who starts at my age and now he is 30yo and he is healthy.

 

[dylangemelli]

What will happen if i make some steroud cycles? I know a guy who starts at my age and now he is 30yo and he is healthy.

Well then you should be great then right? You are going to do it clearly but i dont know anyone here thats contributing to such idiocy


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[Dndndn]

Well then you should be great then right? You are going to do it clearly but i dont know anyone here thats contributing to such idiocy


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Yes, nobody will contributing me to use steroids... i already found dealer and we have a chat via skype. I met him in fitness forum. The problem is i cant stop thinking he will scam me, but i have no other choices. He is my last hope to get steroids somehow. I checked the reviewed websites here in the review section and i think they are fake. The dealer i met have good steroid experience, but i want other opinions too. I make registration here to get answers for my question, not lessions. I know steroids are not good for people who are still in the stupid puberty this is why i will make cycle with low dose and soft steroids.

 

[stevesmi]

What will happen if i make some steroud cycles? I know a guy who starts at my age and now he is 30yo and he is healthy.

how do you know that? have you fucked him to see if his dick worked? given him a blowjob?

have you seen his blood work?

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Yes, i know it. But currently i can not train naturally, becuse i want to make some achievements ASAP. I want to have big muscles and low body fat. You know its impossible to have big muscles and low body fat without steroids, right? Im training naturally and i see results but im not as big as i want to be. The truth is i want to compete in big bodybuilding shows. I want to show myself to the world.

nope. I trained natural 13 years and looked 100X better than most of these clowns in the gym who are on roids

here is a confession: I strongly suspected you were underage by your first post.. yeah i been on these forums long enough to know however had i called you out admin would have sent me a PM saying I was mean to a member so I looked the other way. however I can smell you guys from a mile away, it is so obvious. you guys do no research, listen to 'friends' for advice, and are completely ignorant on fitness. 18 year olds can't drink alcohol, go on a cruise, rent a car, and pay sky high car insurance for a reason remember that. right now you are STUPID. now the question is at what point do you mature? some guys do it in their early 20's, other much older

 

[Dndndn]

how do you know that? have you fucked him to see if his dick worked? given him a blowjob?

have you seen his blood work?

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nope. I trained natural 13 years and looked 100X better than most of these clowns in the gym who are on roids

here is a confession: I strongly suspected you were underage by your first post.. yeah i been on these forums long enough to know however had i called you out admin would have sent me a PM saying I was mean to a member so I looked the other way. however I can smell you guys from a mile away, it is so obvious. you guys do no research, listen to 'friends' for advice, and are completely ignorant on fitness. 18 year olds can't drink alcohol, go on a cruise, rent a car, and pay sky high car insurance for a reason remember that. right now you are STUPID. now the question is at what point do you mature? some guys do it in their early 20's, other much older

I dont smoke and drink alchohol. I made it one time to see how it feels.
What made you to suspect im underage?
What made you to think i havent done enough research on steroids? I already know steroids will put damage on my body, but this is my choice.
Theoretically, i know almost everything about steroids. I know how they work, i know what will happen with my body during steroid cycle, i know i need PCT to recovery my hormonal system, i know about organ enlargement and potential death, dead sperm, emotional changes, heart problems, liver and kidney problems, lowering natural testosterone, red skin, body can addict to steroids, non-permament testicular atrophy, painful erections, hard times trying to have kids, hard times trying to get erection and maybe arrested bone growth but this is not problem because im already 185cm... and much, much more side effects. Dont think i think when i start use steroids everything will be fine. I know steroids are serious things and they are not joke. I know good effects will come with bad effects. If you want, ask me something you think i dont know, and i will answer.

When you give answer to my questions and i start doing steroids, i already will know what exactly im doing to my body.

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PS. i didnt make blowjob... I just asked him hiw is his health and reproductive health. He answered - i started using steroids at age 18 and now im healthy. Now i almost dont use steroids, im on peptides.

 

[stevesmi]

PS. i didnt make blowjob... I just asked him hiw is his health and reproductive health. He answered - i started using steroids at age 18 and now im healthy.

a short google search and on this forum and you will read thousands of stories of guys who used at 18 who are now fucked for life in their 20's.. heck one of the mods on here are one of them. he had to get on TRT for life..

 

[Dndndn]

a short google search and on this forum and you will read thousands of stories of guys who used at 18 who are now fucked for life in their 20's.. heck one of the mods on here are one of them. he had to get on TRT for life..

A few soft cycles wont hurt me. The side effects of steroids are linked with genetics. I dont thinkni will get serious side effects.
TRT is something everyone wants.
Why they are on TRT for life? Because they didnt use PCT to recover their hormonal system? PCT is to help you to recover the natural testosterone production.

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Ok, i fell sorry for them, maybe they made mistake at young age.

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Maybe the same thing can happen to me, but i will risk. If im lucky enough, nothing bad will happen

 

[dylangemelli]

A few soft cycles wont hurt me. The side effects of steroids are linked with genetics. I dont thinkni will get serious side effects.
TRT is something everyone wants.
Why they are on TRT for life? Because they didnt use PCT to recover their hormonal system? PCT is to help you to recover the natural testosterone production.

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Ok, i fell sorry for them, maybe they made mistake at young age.

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Maybe the same thing can happen to me, but i will risk. If im lucky enough, nothing bad will happen

a few cycles wont hurt you? right, you know through your VAST experience at 18 years old right? or guys like me and steve that have been around this for a fucking decade... you know how many thousands of people i deal with a month? hundreds of thousands and likely after this long millions of people, yet you know more than us... SMFH, im done with this... good luck since you know everything

 

[Dndndn]

a few cycles wont hurt you? right, you know through your VAST experience at 18 years old right? or guys like me and steve that have been around this for a fucking decade... you know how many thousands of people i deal with a month? hundreds of thousands and likely after this long millions of people, yet you know more than us... SMFH, im done with this... good luck since you know everything

Dont go, i have to talk with someone about steroids.
And what now? You are 1000% sure if i make a few soft cycles, i will be fucked up? Then what to do? To go to the church and pray God to perform miracle and in the next morning when i wake up i will be big as a house? Im 99% sure this will not happen.
Well, tell me why you are on TRT where you made mistake? Tell me your story. You didnt use PCT or you did too long cycles? The longer cycle, the bigger addiction. This is why if i will do cycle, it will be short.

I need as detailed as possible information, because i dont want to do mistakes that i will remember to the end of my life. I have never told you i know more than you.

 

[Mobster]

The reason why TWO mods (not one) are on TRT is thus. One is an older guy. So ok right?

The other took steroids, just like you, when he was 18. And, just like you will, he fucked his HPTA. You are GAMBLING with your health and you want us to help you. Our help is DON'T DO IT. Next

 

[Dndndn]

The reason why TWO mods (not one) are on TRT is thus. One is an older guy. So ok right?

The other took steroids, just like you, when he was 18. And, just like you will, he fucked his HPTA. You are GAMBLING with your health and you want us to help you. Our help is DON'T DO IT. Next

What about anti-estrogens and PCT? The two moderators are on TRT because they didnt use PCT or what? I know PCT will help stimulating natural testostrone production, right? I have read that steroids will put damage on the ednocryne syste ONLY if the use dont use PCT.

You want to say that even with PCT steroids can kill my natural testosterone? Can you explain me why? Even if its true, i can accept it. I already know steroids can cause infertility in some cases. But dont you think PCT will back my natural testosterone?

Im afraid of serious health condition (e.g. heard attack, liver cancer and etc) , im not afraid from infertility. If im lucky enough, i wont become infertility just from a few SOFT cycles.
There is no need you to tell me i can destroy my HPTA, becuse i already know this can happen. For you its very easy to say "dude, dont use steroids, because you will fuck your HPTA", but you will never understand what im feeling and why i want to use steroids, because you are not on my place. You cant see the world via my eyes. I already know there is a big chance for me to lose the game with steroids and destroy my life, however i made my choice - to make a few cycles. And i dont care about infertility. Im afraid only from the fact i can die... i dont want to die.

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Here the people are saying "two mods are on trt, two mods are on trt, two mods are on trt, two mods are on trt, two mods are on trt" but nobidy want to explain me the story, what exactly happened, where they made mistake... I need to be educated about steroids. In the school, the teachers dont yalk about steroids

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Yalk = talk*

Sorry for the spam, but i cant find the "edit" button

 

[Mobster]

Let's start at the top. I'm not, as we Brits say, going to go into the ins and outs of a dogs arse. You seem to be under the impression I (and anyone else advising you) have bucket loads of time to sit here, for free, telling you what to do all day long. It's also the weekend, we have jobs, family and social lives. So you'll have to excuse us if we don't instantly type out back stories.

Now you seem like an intelligent lad yet are wasting time arguing with us as though, should you somehow score some imaginary win, we'll come round to your way of thinking and give what amounts to a nod for you to go ahead and screw yourself up. Plus, and here's a thought, you could always search both on this forum and online for the 'why it's a bad idea to take steroids before you're full matured'. I'll address that shortly.

I mentioned, quite clearly above, that one mod is 'an older guy'. Hence, as with other older guys, it's not at all uncommon for their natural test levels (in fact it happens to ALL guys only some more than others) to get lower as they get older. You know this right?? The flip side, then, is also true. When you're younger and not fully matured, yours will be lower but get better (go up) as you age. Right up, in a healthy guy with a good diet and working out / staying fit to as high as around 40 (average guys is earlier) before it falls off. If you look at what docs consider full maturity it's thus:

1) Full height (or near to it) is between 18-25. So you're not yet at your maximum full height. You may be very close.
2) Physical maturity (height, weight, muscle size, balls working flat out etc): around age 25. So 7 years then. Right about the time when guys think about marrying (and having kids)
3) Max strength (in untrained men) around 30-35. Funnily enough also when you're likely to be at the peak of your career professionally speaking.

Oh and your comment about not seeing the world through your eyes... so fkin what. Firstly we've all been 18. That's EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE REPLYING. Secondly, you're not seeing the world through our eyes, with our knowledge and our experience.

Now the gamble, as already mentioned, has NOTHING to do with PCT. We know (heck I think you even agree) roids stop production on cycle. We also know (ditto) PCT gives what's termed a soft landing and helps boost (no such thing as restarting it) whatever you're producing post cycle back to or about natural levels. However, in the young (so 18 then) you can stop it all together. Let's say you started a nice 12 week cycle today. PCT or not by the 9th September you'd be rolling the dice, crossing your fingers and saying hail fkin Mary that you're not screwed.

Here's a Brucie Bonus for you (look that up ha ha): The advantage of our age is we know that you can, if you so wish, by all means do a cycle when you're 25. And, if you're proper hardcore, make a SHIT load of gains between now and then. Heck, just based on averages (like all the numbers above) you'll be anything from 14 pounds (2 a year) to 35lbs (5 a year) heavier WITHOUT A SINGLE ROID. There's NOTHING to stop you training right up until they nail the fkin coffin lid on. As per the saying.... it's not a race it's a marathon. So pace yourself. Go without gear for a bit. Grow naturally and if you must then use when it's the right time.

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I also did the search you might have done (from Labrada-dot-com): Why Teenagers Should Stay Away From Steroids

Many teenagers do not know exactly how high their natural testosterone production can be. It ranges anywhere from 800 to 1300 ng/dl. This is literally the equivalent of taking a 300mg shot of testosterone (steroids) on a weekly basis. Many times adults get on them through Doctor’s supervision because their natural testosterone production is low. This is what is called Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT). At a teenager’s age there is not a need to do so as it is very easy to increase size and strength naturally with a good diet and training routine. So many times I hear teens talking about what they want to take or have already done so. What they do not realize is that by using steroids at a young age it will kill your natural testosterone production. This means that when they grow older they will be forced to use them to have a normal testosterone level or they will have a naturally low testosterone. This also means they will not feel as good as they normally would and often not have the stamina that they should have.

 

[Dndndn]

Let's start at the top. I'm not, as we Brits say, going to go into the ins and outs of a dogs arse. You seem to be under the impression I (and anyone else advising you) have bucket loads of time to sit here, for free, telling you what to do all day long. It's also the weekend, we have jobs, family and social lives. So you'll have to excuse us if we don't instantly type out back stories.

Now you seem like an intelligent lad yet are wasting time arguing with us as though, should you somehow score some imaginary win, we'll come round to your way of thinking and give what amounts to a nod for you to go ahead and screw yourself up. Plus, and here's a thought, you could always search both on this forum and online for the 'why it's a bad idea to take steroids before you're full matured'. I'll address that shortly.

I mentioned, quite clearly above, that one mod is 'an older guy'. Hence, as with other older guys, it's not at all uncommon for their natural test levels (in fact it happens to ALL guys only some more than others) to get lower as they get older. You know this right?? The flip side, then, is also true. When you're younger and not fully matured, yours will be lower but get better (go up) as you age. Right up, in a healthy guy with a good diet and working out / staying fit to as high as around 40 (average guys is earlier) before it falls off. If you look at what docs consider full maturity it's thus:

1) Full height (or near to it) is between 18-25. So you're not yet at your maximum full height. You may be very close.
2) Physical maturity (height, weight, muscle size, balls working flat out etc): around age 25. So 7 years then. Right about the time when guys think about marrying (and having kids)
3) Max strength (in untrained men) around 30-35. Funnily enough also when you're likely to be at the peak of your career professionally speaking.

Oh and your comment about not seeing the world through your eyes... so fkin what. Firstly we've all been 18. That's EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE REPLYING. Secondly, you're not seeing the world through our eyes, with our knowledge and our experience.

Now the gamble, as already mentioned, has NOTHING to do with PCT. We know (heck I think you even agree) roids stop production on cycle. We also know (ditto) PCT gives what's termed a soft landing and helps boost (no such thing as restarting it) whatever you're producing post cycle back to or about natural levels. However, in the young (so 18 then) you can stop it all together. Let's say you started a nice 12 week cycle today. PCT or not by the 9th September you'd be rolling the dice, crossing your fingers and saying hail fkin Mary that you're not screwed.

Here's a Brucie Bonus for you (look that up ha ha): The advantage of our age is we know that you can, if you so wish, by all means do a cycle when you're 25. And, if you're proper hardcore, make a SHIT load of gains between now and then. Heck, just based on averages (like all the numbers above) you'll be anything from 14 pounds (2 a year) to 35lbs (5 a year) heavier WITHOUT A SINGLE ROID. There's NOTHING to stop you training right up until they nail the fkin coffin lid on. As per the saying.... it's not a race it's a marathon. So pace yourself. Go without gear for a bit. Grow naturally and if you must then use when it's the right time.

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I also did the search you might have done (from Labrada-dot-com): Why Teenagers Should Stay Away From Steroids

Many teenagers do not know exactly how high their natural testosterone production can be. It ranges anywhere from 800 to 1300 ng/dl. This is literally the equivalent of taking a 300mg shot of testosterone (steroids) on a weekly basis. Many times adults get on them through Doctor’s supervision because their natural testosterone production is low. This is what is called Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT). At a teenager’s age there is not a need to do so as it is very easy to increase size and strength naturally with a good diet and training routine. So many times I hear teens talking about what they want to take or have already done so. What they do not realize is that by using steroids at a young age it will kill your natural testosterone production. This means that when they grow older they will be forced to use them to have a normal testosterone level or they will have a naturally low testosterone. This also means they will not feel as good as they normally would and often not have the stamina that they should have.

I cant marry, im not enough serious.

So, if i wait 7 years, then i will be able to make crazy steroid cycles and becone big as a house without getting damage on the ednocryne system, and i wont become infertily?

 

[chadmack282]

So u r going to buy steroids from just some guy u met on an exercise forum!
Sounds Intelligent!!

 

[dylangemelli]

I cant marry, im not enough serious. [emoji37]

So, if i wait 7 years, then i will be able to make crazy steroid cycles and becone big as a house without getting damage on the ednocryne system, and i wont become infertily?

Just go away


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[muskate]

You are 18 years old. You are WAY too young to be using steroids.

Buy a gym membership, focus on your diet and training program and you will get the body you are looking for. Steroids at your age are a horrible idea.

 

[Dndndn]

Mobster, read this, please:

Dylangemelly, relax and don't be angry.

Yes chadmack, the guy is telling me the products are not fake. He sounds seriously.

I don't know what to tell you, mobster. We need to stop talking about ednocrine system and side effects. Why? Because every person, every article is telling me different things. If now i go out and talk with people about steroids, everyone will tell me different things, which will create mix of different ideas in my head and i will get headache. As i said, everyone, every article is telling me different things, and this is why i can't make my own decision. Guy1 will tell me "get steroids, its awesome", Guy2 will tell me "Steroids are not dangerous", Guy3 will tell me "If you get steroids, you will ruin your life"... This makes me to think about one thing, say second thing, doing third thing... I hope you understand what im telling you. The problem is that you are old guy, which means your way of thinking is old too. My father is 51 years old, and he has the same way of thinking. You are talking only about health, which is not important in our age.

Im under pressure by the modern world. You Mobster, have to realize we dont live in 1500 year, where religious is everything. You are so naive and you think in way i dont understand. In 1500 year the life of people was something like that - marry, have kids, live your life, pray to God, help others and be good person. But now, the things have been changed. If you ask a women this question "what is the perfect male in your view point", she will never tell you she wants a guy who all day will stays in the church and dont have time for her. As i said, things have been changed. There are a few types of mens:

1. Rich guy - he dont care if he is fat, have asymmetrical face, big nose, small penis, heaight of 120cm, no teeth in mouth etc.. He has a lof of money, and he can controll everything he wants. *this is why womens will like him, because rich guy can give her a lot of things. Every women want to go in Dubai, right? But in the same time, not every boyfriend can make this gift for her.

2. Poor guy - a guy, who has no money and is disappoined from the life. He is religious and all day prays to God. I dont think some women will like him, but there is still chance. Mobster, dont get me wrong, there is nothing bad in religion.

3. Average guy (this is me) - a guy who is not billionaire, but in the same time he is not poor. This kind of guys have chance to meet nice women, but the chance is not big. However, the muscle size is increasing the chance. Big muscles are sign of alpha male.

Yes, i know steroids have side effects, but i will risk.

In today age, you dont have to be good person, help others and be religious to be loved by others. In today age, you have to have good appearance. I will give you some examples.

If you go to Hollywood, you will see almost everyone have plastic surgery for straight nose, square jaw and high cheeck bones. And almost every womes have painted her eyebrows in darker color. This is because dark eyebrows, straight nose, big lips, square jaw, high cheeck bones and etc are part of the modern people's requipments about what is to be beautiful. You know what i mean, right? Do you think plastic surgeries dont have risks? There is risk to get infections, flesh-eating bacteria and much more... But however people prefer to risk, because they want to meet the requipments of the beauty. See Ian Simerhalder. He put implants in his jaw, to get square jaw - because as i said, square jaw is part of what people see as beauty.

I can become rich when i want, i have more than enough properties. Im enough smart to get on the top of the pyramid. But also, im perfectionist. I want to be perfect in the eyes of the people.

Conclusion:
Rich guys attract womens with money, because rich mans can give everything to the women.

Average guys (guys as me) attract women via appearance. Yes i have naturally beautiful face, but im not big enough. As i said earlier, big muscles are sign of alpha male. Other signs are high testosterone face, facial hair - things i have. Muscles are sign of strenght, which makes women feel protected and attracted.

Yes, im under pressure by the modern world. I can train naturally, but someone on steroids will be bigger than me and he will attract my girlfriend.

Now, continue to listen to me.

The sex is not the most important thing in the relationship. You think a man must have big dick and strong erections?

I know a guy without one hand - he is married and have 3 kids.

I know a guy without 2 hands and 2 legs - he is married too. I dont know does he have kids or not.

I know a guy with diabete, overweight, cant get boner, but he has 5 kids and wife with breast cancer. His relationship is not good, because the behaviour of his 2 sons is not good, and now he hates them and his wife.. This guy is 60 years old and he have found young women. He is rich also, but the relationship with the young women is not about the money, its real love.

I know a guy who is paychopath - he have two great kids and normal wife.

I know a guy who is sociopath - he has wife too.

I know women with schizophrenia - she has son.

As you can see, sick peope can have families too. So stop talking about penises, sperm and ednocrine system. I dont know why people are creating steroid forums, after in these steroid forums the topics are only about sperm, penises and ednocrine system...

I know my english is not native language, but im explainig well. Why you cant understand me?

Why you cant understand today the man must have big muscles to be real man in the eyea of other people.

What you cant understand? Tell me thebrhing you cant understand, and i will explain them to you.

Yes, you are older and you have more knowledge than me, but your knowledge ans view points doesnt fit the modern peoples' thinking. Im not insulting you

Yes, you again cant understand me. Tell me if you didnt understand what i said, and i will trybto write it again and more detailed.

P. S. I think fitness womens are using hormones to get distance between the legs.

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You are 18 years old. You are WAY too young to be using steroids.

Buy a gym membership, focus on your diet and training program and you will get the body you are looking for. Steroids at your age are a horrible idea.

Yes. Im the guy from skype. This is the topic for what you told me the link dont work.

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P. S. You need to watch Some film about animal kingdoom, thenbyou will understans what is alpha male.

 

[dylangemelli]

Mobster, read this, please:

Dylangemelly, relax and don't be angry.

Yes chadmack, the guy is telling me the products are not fake. He sounds seriously.

I don't know what to tell you, mobster. We need to stop talking about ednocrine system and side effects. Why? Because every person, every article is telling me different things. If now i go out and talk with people about steroids, everyone will tell me different things, which will create mix of different ideas in my head and i will get headache. As i said, everyone, every article is telling me different things, and this is why i can't make my own decision. Guy1 will tell me "get steroids, its awesome", Guy2 will tell me "Steroids are not dangerous", Guy3 will tell me "If you get steroids, you will ruin your life"... This makes me to think about one thing, say second thing, doing third thing... I hope you understand what im telling you. The problem is that you are old guy, which means your way of thinking is old too. My father is 51 years old, and he has the same way of thinking. You are talking only about health, which is not important in our age.

Im under pressure by the modern world. You Mobster, have to realize we dont live in 1500 year, where religious is everything. You are so naive and you think in way i dont understand. In 1500 year the life of people was something like that - marry, have kids, live your life, pray to God, help others and be good person. But now, the things have been changed. If you ask a women this question "what is the perfect male in your view point", she will never tell you she wants a guy who all day will stays in the church and dont have time for her. As i said, things have been changed. There are a few types of mens:

1. Rich guy - he dont care if he is fat, have asymmetrical face, big nose, small penis, heaight of 120cm, no teeth in mouth etc.. He has a lof of money, and he can controll everything he wants. *this is why womens will like him, because rich guy can give her a lot of things. Every women want to go in Dubai, right? But in the same time, not every boyfriend can make this gift for her.

2. Poor guy - a guy, who has no money and is disappoined from the life. He is religious and all day prays to God. I dont think some women will like him, but there is still chance. Mobster, dont get me wrong, there is nothing bad in religion.

3. Average guy (this is me) - a guy who is not billionaire, but in the same time he is not poor. This kind of guys have chance to meet nice women, but the chance is not big. However, the muscle size is increasing the chance. Big muscles are sign of alpha male.

Yes, i know steroids have side effects, but i will risk.

In today age, you dont have to be good person, help others and be religious to be loved by others. In today age, you have to have good appearance. I will give you some examples.

If you go to Hollywood, you will see almost everyone have plastic surgery for straight nose, square jaw and high cheeck bones. And almost every womes have painted her eyebrows in darker color. This is because dark eyebrows, straight nose, big lips, square jaw, high cheeck bones and etc are part of the modern people's requipments about what is to be beautiful. You know what i mean, right? Do you think plastic surgeries dont have risks? There is risk to get infections, flesh-eating bacteria and much more... But however people prefer to risk, because they want to meet the requipments of the beauty. See Ian Simerhalder. He put implants in his jaw, to get square jaw - because as i said, square jaw is part of what people see as beauty.

I can become rich when i want, i have more than enough properties. Im enough smart to get on the top of the pyramid. But also, im perfectionist. I want to be perfect in the eyes of the people.

Conclusion:
Rich guys attract womens with money, because rich mans can give everything to the women.

Average guys (guys as me) attract women via appearance. Yes i have naturally beautiful face, but im not big enough. As i said earlier, big muscles are sign of alpha male. Other signs are high testosterone face, facial hair - things i have. Muscles are sign of strenght, which makes women feel protected and attracted.

Yes, im under pressure by the modern world. I can train naturally, but someone on steroids will be bigger than me and he will attract my girlfriend.

Now, continue to listen to me.

The sex is not the most important thing in the relationship. You think a man must have big dick and strong erections?

I know a guy without one hand - he is married and have 3 kids.

I know a guy without 2 hands and 2 legs - he is married too. I dont know does he have kids or not.

I know a guy with diabete, overweight, cant get boner, but he has 5 kids and wife with breast cancer. His relationship is not good, because the behaviour of his 2 sons is not good, and now he hates them and his wife.. This guy is 60 years old and he have found young women. He is rich also, but the relationship with the young women is not about the money, its real love.

I know a guy who is paychopath - he have two great kids and normal wife.

I know a guy who is sociopath - he has wife too.

I know women with schizophrenia - she has son.

As you can see, sick peope can have families too. So stop talking about penises, sperm and ednocrine system. I dont know why people are creating steroid forums, after in these steroid forums the topics are only about sperm, penises and ednocrine system...

I know my english is not native language, but im explainig well. Why you cant understand me?

Why you cant understand today the man must have big muscles to be real man in the eyea of other people.

What you cant understand? Tell me thebrhing you cant understand, and i will explain them to you.

Yes, you are older and you have more knowledge than me, but your knowledge ans view points doesnt fit the modern peoples' thinking. Im not insulting you

Yes, you again cant understand me. Tell me if you didnt understand what i said, and i will trybto write it again and more detailed.

P. S. I think fitness womens are using hormones to get distance between the legs.

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Yes. Im the guy from skype. This is the topic for what you told me the link dont work.

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P. S. You need to watch Some film about animal kingdoom, thenbyou will understans what is alpha male.

ive read some pretty ridiculous shit in my day... i mean, the amounts of people i deal with daily, i have seen it all but you have taken the cake... i have NEVER, in all these years seen someone so far gone, misguided and living on an entirely different planet than you, NEVER... you are way too far gone... seriously, this is the worst thing i have literally ever seen in all these years, and BY FAR it takes the cake... its not even close..

 

[Dndndn]

ive read some pretty ridiculous shit in my day... i mean, the amounts of people i deal with daily, i have seen it all but you have taken the cake... i have NEVER, in all these years seen someone so far gone, misguided and living on an entirely different planet than you, NEVER... you are way too far gone... seriously, this is the worst thing i have literally ever seen in all these years, and BY FAR it takes the cake... its not even close..

Im realist and i know money rule the the world. If you dont have money, then you should have good appearance. You cant tell im not right, because im right. From where are you? Maybe you live in country, where the thing are different. But thing again, am i right? In the text i wrote there is dozen of truth

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[dylangemelli]

Im realist and i know money rule the the world. If you dont have money, then you should have good appearance. You cant tell im not right, because im right. From where are you? Maybe you live in country, where the thing are different. But thing again, am i right? In the text i wrote there is dozen of truth

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You would know being 18 years old with all your wisdom.. so please continue to teach us all about life... please... ive learned so much already carry on


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[Dndndn]

You would know being 18 years old with all your wisdom.. so please continue to teach us all about life... please... ive learned so much already carry on


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I know you know more than me. Im just telling you some facts about the modern world. Im also telling you why i want to go on steroids - because im under pressure by the modern world. Ask the older stars from Hollywood why they are doing everything possible to look as young as possible - because they are under pressure by the younger Hollywood stars. You got it?

P. S. Im not teaching you. Im just telling you facts you may already know.

 

[dylangemelli]

I know you know more than me. Im just telling you some facts about the modern world. Im also telling you why i want to go on steroids - because im under pressure by the modern world. Ask the older stars from Hollywood why they are doing everything possible to look as young as possible - because they are under pressure by the younger Hollywood stars. You got it?

P. S. Im not teaching you. Im just telling you facts you may already know.

You are one disrespectful person to say the least... do i got it? Who do u think your talking to?? Are u in fucking hollywood? Im not responding again and because im an adult im not going to tell you what you need to hear... im looking forward to you learning a hard lesson


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[Dndndn]

You are one disrespectful person to say the least... do i got it? Who do u think your talking to?? Are u in fucking hollywood? Im not responding again and because im an adult im not going to tell you what you need to hear... im looking forward to you learning a hard lesson


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Im respectful person. Sometimes i sound disrespectful due to some reasons when i write in English. No, im not in Hollywood. But this doesnt mean i want to be average peraon to the end if my live. As i said earlier in this topic, i want to prove myself, i want people to know i exist and talk about me, i want to be popular, i want people to want to be like me... You know what i mean, buddy? And why you cant wait to see me learning hard lession? The fact i asked you "you got it", doesnt mean im not respect you. I just dont know English very well, this is why im asked you - i just wanted to make sure you can understand what im saying. I dont know who you are.

 

[Mobster]

I know you know more than me. Im just telling you some facts about the modern world. Im also telling you why i want to go on steroids - because im under pressure by the modern world. Ask the older stars from Hollywood why they are doing everything possible to look as young as possible - because they are under pressure by the younger Hollywood stars. You got it?

P. S. Im not teaching you. Im just telling you facts you may already know.

The Hollywood reference works as well as comparing yourself to Supermodels. Those people (both) are freaks. What makes you think using steroids makes you a freak??

And no matter how many words you type you're still too young.

 

[Dndndn]

The Hollywood reference works as well as comparing yourself to Supermodels. Those people (both) are freaks. What makes you think using steroids makes you a freak??

And no matter how many words you type you're still too young.

Did you read the long post with the alien faces in page 3 from Yesterday, 07:53 PM? There i explained everything. https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/steroid-cycle-60569-3.html

Im not billionaire and i cant attract people with money, so i will attract them with appearance.

If i want to be freak, firstly i have to acting as freak. In the post e explained why im under pressure and why i need to go on steroids.

 

[Mobster]

The only pressure you're under is self inflicted.

 

[Dndndn]

The only pressure you're under is self inflicted.

You need to read the long post. Well, i see you cant understand me. My way if thinking if more different than your way if thinking. If you have knowledge, could you help me with answers to my questions about steroids at all?

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[Mobster]

You need to read the long post. Well, i see you cant understand me. My way if thinking if more different than your way if thinking. If you have knowledge, could you help me with answers to my questions about steroids at all?

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I did read it. Doesn't mean I gotta agree. I understand what you said but I know from experience you're wrong. And NO ONE will help you make what we see as a mistake. We have told you you're too young so why would we then help??

 

[Dndndn]

I did read it. Doesn't mean I gotta agree. I understand what you said but I know from experience you're wrong. And NO ONE will help you make what we see as a mistake. We have told you you're too young so why would we then help??

I already know i will do mistake, but this is my choice. Why you should support me? To be gay is wrong too, ok? But what if you have son and he is gay? You will know this is not right, however you will support him with all your love.

Its good for you to help me to achieve my goal. And again, i know i will do mistake, but this is my life choice. Btw, why you dont want to help me? What you will lose if you help me?

 

[Dndndn]

P. S. Smoking is bad too, but im pretty sure the guys who are telling me steroids are bad, they smoke

 

[gearhead]

P. S. Smoking is bad too, but im pretty sure the guys who are telling me steroids are bad, they smoke

bro how about smoking marijuana...all good

 

[Mobster]

P. S. Smoking is bad too, but im pretty sure the guys who are telling me steroids are bad, they smoke

I've never smoked. EVER. And you ARE old enough, legally speaking, to smoke. Is it bad - sure.

 

[stellar]

I cant marry, im not enough serious.

So, if i wait 7 years, then i will be able to make crazy steroid cycles and becone big as a house without getting damage on the ednocryne system, and i wont become infertily?

No. Dylan is a genetic freak. You will never look like him. Unless maybe you stop lifting and forget this whole bodybuilding thing.......you will probably still look better than him but at least you won’t be DEAD. If you take a Dianabol, or any methane gas, you will DIE. Dylan has inhaled all sorts of gasses, but he’s a freak. 18 years old die everyday in his loving arms. Would they prefer he wear a shirt. Yes, we all would. Don’t die, E.T. Dylan’s here. Or somewhere.

 

[Mobster]

No. Dylan is a genetic freak. You will never look like him. Unless maybe you stop lifting and forget this whole bodybuilding thing.......you will probably still look better than him but at least you won’t be DEAD. If you take a Dianabol, or any methane gas, you will DIE. Dylan has inhaled all sorts of gasses, but he’s a freak. 18 years old die everyday in his loving arms. Would they prefer he wear a shirt. Yes, we all would. Don’t die, E.T. Dylan’s here. Or somewhere.

And he smokes ha ha

 

[Dndndn]

I dont know who smokes and who no, i just wanted to tell that the people who told me to not do bad thing to my health, they do bad thing to their health too. There are 12-13-14-15-16-17 years olds that smokes too. The fact someones is over 18, means nothing. I dont smoke, im not interested in.

Dont use fake profiles.

You didbt answer my questions:

I already know i will do mistake, but this is my choice. Why you should support me? To be gay is wrong too, ok? But what if you have son and he is gay? You will know this is not right, however you will support him with all your love.

Its good for you to help me to achieve my goal. And again, i know i will do mistake, but this is my life choice. Btw, why you dont want to help me? What you will lose if you help me?

 

[Dndndn]

I dont know who tou are stellar, but please dont try to troll me via fake profiles

 

[Mobster]

i dont know who smokes and who no, i just wanted to tell that the people who told me to not do bad thing to my health, they do bad thing to their health too. There are 12-13-14-15-16-17 years olds that smokes too. The fact someones is over 18, means nothing. I dont smoke, im not interested in.

Dont use fake profiles.

You didbt answer my questions:

no ones gonna help you fuck yourself up.

 

[Dndndn]

no ones gonna help you fuck yourself up.

Why no ones gonna help me to POTENTIALLY hurt my ednocrine system?
You can help me, but you dont want - this is not right. For example, when you go to McDonalds and order some food, nobody will tell you "Hi, i will not sell you food, because you will fuck yourself up.". The people who works at McDonalds they know the food there is not healthy, but they sell it anyway. People loves to go to McDonalds, because they find fun to eat this food. The people who sell this kind of food, will never tell you this food could hurt you, because they already know you know that. They will sell it to you however, because they know this is your choice - to eat junk food.

If you eat junk food, you could get ED, prostate cancer, breast cancer, lower sperm count, gyno, infertility - but without BULK.

If you use steroids, you could get ED, prostate cancer, lower sperm count, gyno, infertility - and steroids will make you to BULK.

Some people choose to eat junk food and risk their health for nothing.
Other people (as me) choosed to use steroids and risk their health in the name of freak muscles.

For example, when you go to the shop to buy cigarettes, the sellers will never told you they will not sell cigarettes to you because cigarettes are not healthy.

The thing you need to realize, is that im 18yo, which means i can do everything i want without my parents' permission. If you dont help me, i could find other people who will help me. But this will be very hard because i checked hundreds of forums, and here at EVO people are most serious

As i said, im 18yo and i have made my life choice. You cant make me to think in other way. The only thing you can do for me is to support me - you will lose nothing.

Steroids are nothing. There are people who fucked themselves with drugs, suicides, mutilation, homosexualism and etc...

Im asking you just for help. I know steroids could kill me, but i want to risk.
I know what could happen to my health if i use steroids, but i will risk.

Every person is doing things that hurt himself (or herself). I just want to use steroids, there is nothing wrong with that. This is my choice. If i use steroids, this will not hurt other people, so i dont know why you dont want to help me. Yes, i will hurt my self, and what? Tell me what will happen when i hurt myself. This is just my choice.

When someone make wrong choice about his life, other people shoud advice him (or her) this is not right. If the same person continue to want the same thing, this mean he really wants it - and no matter if its right or not - other people should support him (or her). And if you are human, you should do the same with me.

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

I will never advise anyone at 18 to use steroids ever. It is completely irresponsible. I hope you make the right decision but some people just have to make the mistake themselves before they learn.

 

[Dndndn]

Yes, steroid at 18 are not good idea

some people just have to make the mistake themselves before they learn.

I already know the lession, so i will learn nothing new. If i do steroid at age 18 i will not make mistake, because i already know what will happen. Mistake means when you do something without knowing how it will ends.

 

[gearhead]

Yes, steroid at 18 are not good idea


I already know the lession, so i will learn nothing new. If i do steroid at age 18 i will not make mistake, because i already know what will happen. Mistake means when you do something without knowing how it will ends.

bro but why use steroids at 18? ...really not a good idea...use supplements instead IMO

 

[Dndndn]

bro but why use steroids at 18? ...really not a good idea...use supplements instead IMO

Hi. I explained everything in the long post on page 3. The main reason why i want to use steroids now is simply. Im not rich, so i cant attract people via money. After i cant attract people via money, i will attract them with big muscles. There are much more reasons why i want to use steroids, but this is the main reason.

 

[Dndndn]

I would like to ask will i recieve help for my first cycle - yes or no?

 

[gearhead]

Hi. I explained everything in the long post on page 3. The main reason why i want to use steroids now is simply. Im not rich, so i cant attract people via money. After i cant attract people via money, i will attract them with big muscles. There are much more reasons why i want to use steroids, but this is the main reason.

bro thats some crazy logic...you do realize that using steroids at 18 will mess you up?...why dont you try to go natural?

 

[Dndndn]

bro thats some crazy logic...you do realize that using steroids at 18 will mess you up?...why dont you try to go natural?

The things i said are 99.99% true. Girls are interested in mens with money, or mens with freaking muscles.

If you read all posts in this topic, you will realize i have enough knowledge. I know steroids can even kill me. Can 6 week cycle really mess up with my ednocrine system? Arnold started steroids when he was under 18 ,now he have 2 kids and look young. If i have luck everything will be fine.

 

[mickc1965]

I would like to ask will i recieve help for my first cycle - yes or no? [emoji135]

After 50+ posts on this thread you can assume no one is going to advise you on steroid use at 18, think you are on your own.

 

[Dndndn]

After 50+ posts on this thread you can assume no one is going to advise you on steroid use at 18, think you are on your own.

I dont want them to advise me. I already decided to use steroids. The only thing these people should do, is to give me some support in my steroid journey. I just have questions that need answers. And it looks these strange people who cares about a guy who they even dont know, wont help me. I will have to find another steroid forum and i hope i will find answers.

The people here dont know what ruined life i live... Im full with inferiority complexes, this is why im always trying to prove myself. ALWAYS.

Bye, bye Mobster and mods, and good luck in life.

 

[Mobster]

I dont want them to advise me. I already decided to use steroids. The only thing these people should do, is to give me some support in my steroid journey. I just have questions that need answers. And it looks these strange people who cares about a guy who they even dont know, wont help me. I will have to find another steroid forum and i hope i will find answers.

The people here dont know what ruined life i live... Im full with inferiority complexes, this is why im always trying to prove myself. ALWAYS.

Bye, bye Mobster and mods, and good luck in life.

Ok. But feel free to come back later when our not having helped you make a mistake will actually show how much we did care. Best of luck

 

[santa666]

The people here dont know what ruined life i live... Im full with inferiority complexes, this is why im always trying to prove myself. ALWAYS.

Steroids wont change or fix that im afraid bro.
If you really want to make a sound change in your life for the better ?
Go start train boxing(or another martial arts if you prefer that) and hit the gym 2-3 times per week.

Read up on dieting and start eating properly.
Do this for MINIMUM one year, put all your focus and heart into it.
You'll get results, gains and well being that you cant even start to imagine and it will all be natural and risk free.

If you're also insecure, bad self confidence, trouble speaking in groups etc. Pick up books on the subject and educate yourself. I could recommend a few books but most of them are in my native language. But 3 ones I think everyone should read are:
The 48 laws of power(Robert Greene) rules of the game (Neil Strauss) and 12 rules for life, an antidote to chaos. (Jordan B. Petersson)
Nothing in this worlds comes easy or for free, but if you have it in you, it will not only change your life, it will build character that stays with your for the rest of your life.

The only and i mean ONLY reason to even considering using steroids at such a young age is if you've decided to make bodybuilding/powerlifting etc your career and you accept that fact you'll be on TRT for the rest of your life with all the health and mental issues associated with it.

 

[Dndndn]

Hello again, friends. I realized i will never win Mr. O, because im not american actually. So, i decided to not use steroids until i reach 21-25 years. I even dont know will i be still alive then, but ok. The main reason why i decided to not use steroid, is that i read steroids will stop my bone development. This is not problem, i already have small waist, wide back, long legs, long torso... If bone development stop, my facial bone development will stop too, i dont want that because my face is still not fully developed. In brief: i will not use steroids now. Are you happy?

The main reason you dont want me to use steroids is the damage on the ednocrine system and infertility, right? But will you help me to use things that dont cause problems like damage on ednocrine system? But what about growth hormone, insulin and peptides? I would like to have a little bit darker skin, cain i use melatonan. Do you think is good for me to use HGH at my age? What do you think about insulin at my age? What dose should i do my pancreas to not get addiction? What do you think about peptides as melatonan 2, epithalon? Which is better to use - peptide that stimulate GH releasing, or pure GH? If i use GH in intelligent doses, will it cause distended stomach and etc?

No boddy, i dont have troubles in speaking. I have complexes as i said, but i keep them inside and dont show them to people.

Thanks. These were my questions. I will be thankful if you answer me. If you tell these things are bad for me at that age, i will listen to you.

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[Mobster]

Hello again, friends. I realized i will never win Mr. O, because im not american actually. So, i decided to not use steroids until i reach 21-25 years. I even dont know will i be still alive then, but ok. The main reason why i decided to not use steroid, is that i read steroids will stop my bone development. This is not problem, i already have small waist, wide back, long legs, long torso... If bone development stop, my facial bone development will stop too, i dont want that because my face is still not fully developed. In brief: i will not use steroids now. Are you happy?

The main reason you dont want me to use steroids is the damage on the ednocrine system and infertility, right? But will you help me to use things that dont cause problems like damage on ednocrine system? But what about growth hormone, insulin and peptides? I would like to have a little bit darker skin, cain i use melatonan. Do you think is good for me to use HGH at my age? What do you think about insulin at my age? What dose should i do my pancreas to not get addiction? What do you think about peptides as melatonan 2, epithalon? Which is better to use - peptide that stimulate GH releasing, or pure GH? If i use GH in intelligent doses, will it cause distended stomach and etc?

No boddy, i dont have troubles in speaking. I have complexes as i said, but i keep them inside and dont show them to people.

Thanks. These were my questions. I will be thankful if you answer me. If you tell these things are bad for me at that age, i will listen to you.

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Buddy*, not boddy

Dorian Yates wasn't either

 

[moze]

The things i said are 99.99% true. Girls are interested in mens with money, or mens with freaking muscles.

If you read all posts in this topic, you will realize i have enough knowledge. I know steroids can even kill me. Can 6 week cycle really mess up with my ednocrine system? Arnold started steroids when he was under 18 ,now he have 2 kids and look young. If i have luck everything will be fine.

lmao, girls dont like freaking muscles, i never had big muscles or money but always had nice girls cuz its fun with me i can crack good jokes im very confident never back down from anything, never scared of anything. To be honest with you, girls like two things(besides money), you need to know how to talk or you need to be very tough, but big muscles dont have much to do with being tough as it comes from confidence and your psychology. A lot of guys shoot roids and are big but also are scared af. Its a gamble, a lot of people used roids at 18 and survive yes but a lot of people also fuked their HPTA. And using d-bol wont make you have big muscles, i suggest you try to avoid oral roids since they are harder on liver and stomach and never think of cycle without testosterone and always have nolvadex with you just in case.

 

[stevesmi]

'girls want guys with money'

not sure what country you are in but it depends. in the US women don't need guys with money, their daddies buy them whatever they want already. seems like russian chicks all want money

'girls want guys with muscles'

again it depends. some chicks like muscles, and some like skinny. everyone has their tastes. if you look like ronnie coleman that turns off 99% of chicks. if you look like me in my avatar that is the look chicks like. muscular, thin waist, but normal and not a monster.

they also want a guy whose dick works and is healthy. and you won't be either if you hop on roids as a teenager

 

[Dustin74]

If you think girls only want money than get an education and make money. Go to trade school and learn a trade and one day open your own business. Or go the university route and earn a doctorates degree and get a good paying job. The best route is go to the local library and check out books, research and self educate yourself and work hard at a career and make money. Genetics have to much to do with building muscle and you may just be wasting time and money thinking your going to get girls by building muscle. I have never heard of anyone wanting to take steroids just to meet girls. That sounds crazy to me. Take a comedic course and become funny. Girls like funny. Don't take steroids just to get girls. That will be a failure for sure.

 

[moze]

And at the end of the day, the guys who have most money are the ones that have the hardest time finding true love. Yea they can have all the whores and bitches but its different. Look at Floyd Mayweather, the guy earned thousands of millions thru his career and he cannot find one women, has to live with five or more whores because he said its impossible to know what the girl loves more, you or your money. And you do not need millions to get a whore, just find a solid job that can generate you solid income that would allow you to live nice and provide your bitch and kids with money so she doesnt have to work and can look good, thats it. My cousin earns around 5000 a month and has a doll wife that doesnt work and looks like from magazine, no need to have millions. I dont know how much 5000euro is worth in USA but in east Europe you can buy pretty muc heverything you want with that salary, besides luxury cars and houses ofc.

 

[Mobster]

Confidence is a BIG part. That and numbers. We've all got buddies who can get girls real easy (keeping them not so much). They play numbers. Ask every girl in the club if need be and they'll walk away with one at the end of the night.

I've been bitch crazy before. I went on POF when I moved here to Wales and was like a kid in a sweet shop for over a year. Two in a day - check, five in a week, check. Fucking all day long, check. Part was actually telling the truth on my profile (the guys that lied about their height... wow). Another was playing to who they thought I was vs who I actually am. So if they said 'you look dark and brooding'... well guess what I was lol

 

[Dndndn]

Now, i can have girlfriend... but what kind of girlfriend? Just average one. I told you i dont want to be average guy. I want to get on the top of the pyramid. Yes, your cousin earns 5000 per month - this is good. But with 5000 you cant buy private island for example. If you go to luxury strip club, you will have to give 5000 only to join. You cant understand i dont want to live the life of a average guy. I want to do something different with my life

Years ago, model Naomi recieved millions only for one buissness dinner, no sex, no nothing. When some average girl will recieve millions for this? Yes, i want to be part of the high-class people, high life as you know.

And if i use steroids after i reach 25 i will have no problems with infertility?

And you didnt answer my questions about HGH, insulin and peptides.

 

[Mobster]

Now, i can have girlfriend... but what kind of girlfriend? Just average one. I told you i dont want to be average guy. I want to get on the top of the pyramid. Yes, your cousin earns 5000 per month - this is good. But with 5000 you cant buy private island for example. If you go to luxury strip club, you will have to give 5000 only to join. You cant understand i dont want to live the life of a average guy. I want to do something different with my life

Years ago, model Naomi recieved millions only for one buissness dinner, no sex, no nothing. When some average girl will recieve millions for this? Yes, i want to be part of the high-class people, high life as you know.

And if i use steroids after i reach 25 i will have no problems with infertility?

And you didnt answer my questions about HGH, insulin and peptides.

We don't HAVE TO. We're here to help and inform. Not just inform. Helping you, in this instance, is NOT encouraging you by answering every question when we've said you're too young.

 

[Dndndn]

We don't HAVE TO. We're here to help and inform. Not just inform. Helping you, in this instance, is NOT encouraging you by answering every question when we've said you're too young.

We have talked abaout anabolic steroids and their effect on the natural testosterone production. You told me that anabolic steroids shut downs the ednocrine system. But as you know, insulin ans hgh are not steroids, but peptide hormones. These two hormones dont kill your natural testosterone. And in conclusion im too young for peptides too? Could you explain me what negative effects can insulin, hgh and peptides as melatonan put on my body?

 

[Mobster]

Let me address a point you made earlier and are mistaken on in a reply.

Naomi Campbell getting a million dollars for a date (equals being greedy). Ended up in court over it. Payment included blood diamonds. Said diamonds sale and distribution is banned. Ergo the court case. Google it.

See how being naive about stuff can happen regardless of age?

If you can't be trusted, as has been proven by your various replies, with using steroids, what makes us think we might wanna help you with advice on use etc of other injectable drugs. And, as I previously said, there's the bigger issue of encouraging young people to use drugs vs federal authorities, the law and drugs being banned.

Here, for example, under 16's can't use energy drinks anymore. Under 18's can't get piercings and so on.

 

[Dndndn]

Let me address a point you made earlier and are mistaken on in a reply.

Naomi Campbell getting a million dollars for a date (equals being greedy). Ended up in court over it. Payment included blood diamonds. Said diamonds sale and distribution is banned. Ergo the court case. Google it.

See how being naive about stuff can happen regardless of age?

If you can't be trusted, as has been proven by your various replies, with using steroids, what makes us think we might wanna help you with advice on use etc of other injectable drugs. And, as I previously said, there's the bigger issue of encouraging young people to use drugs vs federal authorities, the law and drugs being banned.

Here, for example, under 16's can't use energy drinks anymore. Under 18's can't get piercings and so on.

I know people at age of 15 who are on steroid. Police cant do nothing to them. You can go to police and tell them yesterday you injected steroids, and the police cant do nothing. The only way for police to put you in prison is to caught you in action. If you read the law, you will see a lot of radicalous things. Energy drinks contains things that make your brain more active. If you read the law, you will see drugs are firbidden too - but i see almost everyone is on heavy drugs due to many reason. Most young people smoke weed from time to time just for fun. People are free in their own way, people dont care about law. I dont use drugs and dont have piercings and tattooes.

Why i cant be trusted? You told me steroids will stop my bone growth, then i decided to not use steroids. You made me to realize steroids can give bad effects that i dont want, now i will not use steroids. But now im talking about peptides. So, could you tell me why peptides are bad for me at my age? What bad could happen if i use peptides as melatonan 2? What about hgh and insulin? I can be trusted on 100%, so dont worry. i just need to be educated. When im educated about peptides and know they can do negative effects to my body, then i will not use them.

 

[santa666]

I know people at age of 15 who are on steroid. Police cant do nothing to them. You can go to police and tell them yesterday you injected steroids, and the police cant do nothing. The only way for police to put you in prison is to caught you in action. If you read the law, you will see a lot of radicalous things. Energy drinks contains things that make your brain more active. If you read the law, you will see drugs are firbidden too - but i see almost everyone is on heavy drugs due to many reason. Most young people smoke weed from time to time just for fun. People are free in their own way, people dont care about law. I dont use drugs and dont have piercings and tattooes.

What shitty 3rd world country do you live in ?
Social services are usually a real thing in most developed countries.

Just reading this reply lets everyone know you cant be trusted and are way to young.

 

[Dndndn]

What shitty 3rd world country do you live in ?
Social services are usually a real thing in most developed countries.

Just reading this reply lets everyone know you cant be trusted and are way to young.

I dont live in 3rd world. And for what you are talking about? What makes you to think i live in 3rd world?

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

Are tattoos a bad thing?

 

[Dndndn]

Are tattoos a bad thing?

In my view point - no.

I sont want to talk about things that are out of the topic. I just want to be educated by people with personal experience and knowledge, but it seems they dont want to educate me... People have to be educated, to know what they are doing.

 

[muskate]

Are tattoos a bad thing?

They have to suit the person. For example, tattoos on me would look horrible because I am a blonde hair blue eyed pretty boy.

Tatoos on a big muscular guy look good though.

 

[santa666]

They have to suit the person. For example, tattoos on me would look horrible because I am a blonde hair blue eyed pretty boy.

Tatoos on a big muscular guy look good though.

I'm also a blonde hair blue eyed pretty boy...
Half my body is covered in tattoos and i'm working on a "semi-bodysuit".
So i'd guess im biased but tattoos are amazing.

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I dont live in 3rd world. And for what you are talking about? What makes you to think i live in 3rd world?

Because when you say you can walk up to police and say you've injected steroids as a 15 year old... it makes me wonder what type of country you live in.
Most developed countries has social services which would intervene and most likely remove parental guidance from your parents.

At least thats how it would go down in my country.

 

[E32038]

DNDDND - dude... I'm relatively new to the steroid world here. Only been in the game a year. But I'm neither new to life nor the fitness world. I'm 43 years old and been around he block as they say. I'm older than many of these guys here, I'm sure and yet I'm going to listen to them. Why? Because they know what the hell they are talking about. I highly suggest you do it too. IMO, anyone under 25 shouldn't even consider steroids. You can get all you need naturally. I would be willing to bet that you think Steroids are some magic pill you take and boom...you get big. It takes time. It takes patience. It takes hard work. Very hard work. It also takes a hell of a lot of money to do it right. You seem like a guy that wants short cuts. Have you even read the different types of steroids? What each does? What they don't do? The different methods of administering them? the pros/cons? You literally mentioned that "theoretically you know everything about steroids" I hope that was a translation issue because that was the dumbest thing I ever heard from anyone. And I've met some pretty stupid people in my life. I'd bet a thousand bucks right now that you couldn't draw the molecular structure of Trenbolone Acetate. Is that relevant? No, but knowing everything about a topic would include that little tidbit. Then your comments about "you think you are getting scammed" but are going to do it anyway? dude...are you freaking kidding me? If it walks like a duck, looks like a duck....guess what? It's probably a fckng duck! I hope you actually listen to the experts here. Don't listen to me, I have no clue what I'm talking about. But listen to the mods at least. My god, kid, you're going to hurt yourself for real. Get in the gym. Hell do some crazy unconventional training. But you aren't going to get the results you want from steroids because I have a feeling you aren't willing to work. And about what you said about appearance? Dude, you're 18. Your body is going to change. You need to change your attitude first and I bet that will be far more attractive to the opposite sex (or same sex, whatever you like) than your appearance. I'm not going to engage you any further, cause personally, I think you should be removed from the site but I do wish you the best of luck.

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Muskate - just need the right tatts. Even a blond pretty boy looks good in the right tatts I'm covered too like Santa. My body from behind looks like the Yakuza! lol.

 

[dylangemelli]

DNDDND - dude... I'm relatively new to the steroid world here. Only been in the game a year. But I'm neither new to life nor the fitness world. I'm 43 years old and been around he block as they say. I'm older than many of these guys here, I'm sure and yet I'm going to listen to them. Why? Because they know what the hell they are talking about. I highly suggest you do it too. IMO, anyone under 25 shouldn't even consider steroids. You can get all you need naturally. I would be willing to bet that you think Steroids are some magic pill you take and boom...you get big. It takes time. It takes patience. It takes hard work. Very hard work. It also takes a hell of a lot of money to do it right. You seem like a guy that wants short cuts. Have you even read the different types of steroids? What each does? What they don't do? The different methods of administering them? the pros/cons? You literally mentioned that "theoretically you know everything about steroids" I hope that was a translation issue because that was the dumbest thing I ever heard from anyone. And I've met some pretty stupid people in my life. I'd bet a thousand bucks right now that you couldn't draw the molecular structure of Trenbolone Acetate. Is that relevant? No, but knowing everything about a topic would include that little tidbit. Then your comments about "you think you are getting scammed" but are going to do it anyway? dude...are you freaking kidding me? If it walks like a duck, looks like a duck....guess what? It's probably a fckng duck! I hope you actually listen to the experts here. Don't listen to me, I have no clue what I'm talking about. But listen to the mods at least. My god, kid, you're going to hurt yourself for real. Get in the gym. Hell do some crazy unconventional training. But you aren't going to get the results you want from steroids because I have a feeling you aren't willing to work. And about what you said about appearance? Dude, you're 18. Your body is going to change. You need to change your attitude first and I bet that will be far more attractive to the opposite sex (or same sex, whatever you like) than your appearance. I'm not going to engage you any further, cause personally, I think you should be removed from the site but I do wish you the best of luck.

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Muskate - just need the right tatts. Even a blond pretty boy looks good in the right tatts I'm covered too like Santa. My body from behind looks like the Yakuza! lol.

What a well written post... very insightful and said with purpose and meaning...


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[E32038]

Thx dylangemelli. I'm glad it came across that way. This kid might as well just go in the corner and start shooting up heroin, cause the end results for him when he's my age will be similar. I'd be willing to bet he isn't even 18. I think he is saying that just so he can be on the site. Even at 18, I wasn't that arrogant and ignorant. I was just crazy and didn't give a F but I certainly listened to those that knew what they are talking about and when you have an entire forum telling you not to do something and he's hell bent on doing it...well like you said earlier, he's going to learn the hard way. It's guys like that who are statistics that give this world a bad name. However, there is definitely something to Natural Selection.

 

[dylangemelli]

Thx dylangemelli. I'm glad it came across that way. This kid might as well just go in the corner and start shooting up heroin, cause the end results for him when he's my age will be similar. I'd be willing to bet he isn't even 18. I think he is saying that just so he can be on the site. Even at 18, I wasn't that arrogant and ignorant. I was just crazy and didn't give a F but I certainly listened to those that knew what they are talking about and when you have an entire forum telling you not to do something and he's hell bent on doing it...well like you said earlier, he's going to learn the hard way. It's guys like that who are statistics that give this world a bad name. However, there is definitely something to Natural Selection.

LOL i hear you... i stopped even attempting to respond... the absurdity here is far beyond the norm and the norm anymore is already pretty fucked up as it is... you cannot reason with the unreasonable... too bad we are not 20 years younger so we could know everything again.. . LOL

 

[Dndndn]

E32038, i already told here in the topic that i decided to not use steroids. The problem is they dont want to educate me... I told them i will not use steroids untill i reach age of 25. I just wanted to ask some questions about peptides and thats it... They think if they answer me, i will go and use them. I had questions about hgh and insulin, they didnt answer me. I wanted to ask question about melanotan 2...

Ok, im go natural as a g*y and thats it. I will not use steroids and thats it. Why you dont believe me i decided to not use steroids?

No, im 18 years of age, i didnt lie.

Ok, ANABOLIC steroids are dangerous for me at that age. I told i will not use them until i reach age of 25. But why you dont want to educate me about insulin and hgh? They are not ANABOLIC steroids. HGH and insulin are not ANABOLIC and sperm killing. I told you if you tell me hgh and insulin are dangerous at my age, i will not use them.

How i can know what is dangerous and what not, after im not educated?

And im not arogant. Im just getting angry, because people here are talking and talking, but they dont want to say what i want to hear - in the case, i want to hear words that will educate me.

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Dylangemelli, dont judge me, please... your life is better than my life

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Im not interested in heroin, E32038

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And i dobt think steroids are magic pills. I know you need to eat and tran, steroids just increase protein synthezis.

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trab = train

 

[gearhead]

E32038, i already told here in the topic that i decided to not use steroids. The problem is they dont want to educate me... I told them i will not use steroids untill i reach age of 25. I just wanted to ask some questions about peptides and thats it... They think if they answer me, i will go and use them. I had questions about hgh and insulin, they didnt answer me. I wanted to ask question about melanotan 2...

Ok, im go natural as a g*y and thats it. I will not use steroids and thats it. Why you dont believe me i decided to not use steroids?

No, im 18 years of age, i didnt lie.

Ok, ANABOLIC steroids are dangerous for me at that age. I told i will not use them until i reach age of 25. But why you dont want to educate me about insulin and hgh? They are not ANABOLIC steroids. HGH and insulin are not ANABOLIC and sperm killing. I told you if you tell me hgh and insulin are dangerous at my age, i will not use them.

How i can know what is dangerous and what not, after im not educated?

And im not arogant. Im just getting angry, because people here are talking and talking, but they dont want to say what i want to hear - in the case, i want to hear words that will educate me.

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Dylangemelli, dont judge me, please... your life is better than my life

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Im not interested in heroin, E32038

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bro...why dont you at least start with sarms when you're 18? not steroids

 

[Mobster]

If you need to be told insulin can kill you... sigh

 

[Dndndn]

If you need to be told insulin can kill you... sigh

Yes, its possible.

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bro...why dont you at least start with sarms when you're 18? not steroids

SARMs suppress natural testosterone, or no? I read they do

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The only thing that may i can use is HGH, but im not sure. People says its not dangerous, but i prefer to be advised by knowledgebal people with personal experience

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Another way is to find how to block myostin, but its very hard i think.

 

[stevesmi]

brother you don't need to be messing with insulin. everytime you eat a protein+carb meal you boost insulin and your body goes into growth/storage mode

more insulin will just make you fat. so bad idea

as far as peptides, most are GHRP's and again your GH levels are sky high right now.. you simply do not need them.

whatever your goals are in life you need to educate and work at them every single day. you still have your whole life ahead of you, every person wishes they could go back to 18. we are too swayed by friends and marketing at that age. we don't want to listen to adults cause it is rebelious and cool not to. some adults give shitty advice for sure, but some you damn well should listen to

my advice is go and get an education. a degree is not hard to get, my buddy is a complete asshat and got a bachelors in 5 years. he lived near his college, had fun with chicks, worked out.. worked at a clothing store with beautiful chicks and banged them all.. lived the college life.. he went into LE after college because he was too lazy to pass tests to get into business school or get into law.. then used that experience to land a job with the feds making 6 figures and travelling the world. he gets 2 week paid vacations where he goes to Spain, vegas, brazil amsterdam etc. again a complete asshat has that lifestyle all because he went to college and got a useless PS degree. so that is my advice for you and every other 18 year old. stop worrying about becoming rich overnight or getting tons of girls right now. in 10 years you will have all that if you get an education

 

[Dndndn]

brother you don't need to be messing with insulin. everytime you eat a protein+carb meal you boost insulin and your body goes into growth/storage mode

more insulin will just make you fat. so bad idea

as far as peptides, most are GHRP's and again your GH levels are sky high right now.. you simply do not need them.

whatever your goals are in life you need to educate and work at them every single day. you still have your whole life ahead of you, every person wishes they could go back to 18. we are too swayed by friends and marketing at that age. we don't want to listen to adults cause it is rebelious and cool not to. some adults give shitty advice for sure, but some you damn well should listen to

my advice is go and get an education. a degree is not hard to get, my buddy is a complete asshat and got a bachelors in 5 years. he lived near his college, had fun with chicks, worked out.. worked at a clothing store with beautiful chicks and banged them all.. lived the college life.. he went into LE after college because he was too lazy to pass tests to get into business school or get into law.. then used that experience to land a job with the feds making 6 figures and travelling the world. he gets 2 week paid vacations where he goes to Spain, vegas, brazil amsterdam etc. again a complete asshat has that lifestyle all because he went to college and got a useless PS degree. so that is my advice for you and every other 18 year old. stop worrying about becoming rich overnight or getting tons of girls right now. in 10 years you will have all that if you get an education

I have done enough sex, im no longer interested in it (no, im not gay). Now, sex and girls are not the most important things in my life. Now i prefer to develop myself, i would like to get nice life, this includes politic friends, powerful advocates, a lot of money, luxury cars, private airplanes, luxury houses and much more. And yes, i know how to achieve that. The easiest way is to become top 5 bodybuilder, but i dont want to be infertile... so, i will wait until i reach age of 25.

The fact i have questions about insulin, doesnt mean im going to use it.

But what about HGH? HGH is hard to obtain naturally, because its produced only during heavy training, especially when training legs, due to biggest muscle group and during at least 8 hours of sleep. My training program is very strange, which means one day i have hormones peak, one day i have low hormones. I just wanted to find way to maximize my hormonal production, but it seems its not good idea until i reach age of 25. Even SARMs are not good idea, because they dont work well.

What about peptides? Well, i wanted to use GHRP peptide, to maximazi my HGH naturally. I also wanted to use melanotan, to get darker skin, because i want to protect myself from sun, moles and skin cancer... And i have alway wanted to have darker skin. But you here dont want to help me, i dont know why. Peptides are nothing, but aminos.

After its not good for me to be chemist at age of 18, i will just try to find a way to block the myostatin, if its even possible and thats it.

You dont want to help me about steroids but what about things that dont suppress my natural hormones? As i know, hgh does not suppress natural hormones. I will run blood test and if test shows i have low HGH, the will you help me?

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If i have low HGH, then is Nutrobal good for me?

 

[stevesmi]

And yes, i know how to achieve that. The easiest way is to become top 5 bodybuilder, but i dont want to be infertile... so, i will wait until i reach age of 25.
?

let me give you more advice and listen close

if you aren't a stud high school athlete, and i'm talking about recruited by div1 schools for sports.. then you will never be a top 500 bodybuilder, much less top 5. get a grip on reality

you realize these mr O guys were all stud athletes in high school right? they broke school records in sports.

 

[Dndndn]

let me give you more advice and listen close

if you aren't a stud high school athlete, and i'm talking about recruited by div1 schools for sports.. then you will never be a top 500 bodybuilder, much less top 5. get a grip on reality

you realize these mr O guys were all stud athletes in high school right? they broke school records in sports.

Yes, i know that. But why you avoid to talk with me about my qustuons?

 

[muskate]

I have done enough sex, im no longer interested in it (no, im not gay). Now, sex and girls are not the most important things in my life. Now i prefer to develop myself, i would like to get nice life, this includes politic friends, powerful advocates, a lot of money, luxury cars, private airplanes, luxury houses and much more. And yes, i know how to achieve that. The easiest way is to become top 5 bodybuilder, but i dont want to be infertile... so, i will wait until i reach age of 25.

The fact i have questions about insulin, doesnt mean im going to use it.

But what about HGH? HGH is hard to obtain naturally, because its produced only during heavy training, especially when training legs, due to biggest muscle group and during at least 8 hours of sleep. My training program is very strange, which means one day i have hormones peak, one day i have low hormones. I just wanted to find way to maximize my hormonal production, but it seems its not good idea until i reach age of 25. Even SARMs are not good idea, because they dont work well.

What about peptides? Well, i wanted to use GHRP peptide, to maximazi my HGH naturally. I also wanted to use melanotan, to get darker skin, because i want to protect myself from sun, moles and skin cancer... And i have alway wanted to have darker skin. But you here dont want to help me, i dont know why. Peptides are nothing, but aminos.

After its not good for me to be chemist at age of 18, i will just try to find a way to block the myostatin, if its even possible and thats it.

You dont want to help me about steroids but what about things that dont suppress my natural hormones? As i know, hgh does not suppress natural hormones. I will run blood test and if test shows i have low HGH, the will you help me?

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If i have low HGH, then is Nutrobal good for me?

If you really want to use HGH, check out the board sponsor mailorderhgh.com so you are at least using legitimate real products but you are 18 years old man. You are still a kid. You really don't want to be messing around with your hormones at such a young age

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

HGH is pointless at 18. Instead of asking so many questions and arguing with everyone, why not spend your time reading and understanding how these things work?

 

[Dndndn]

HGH is pointless at 18. Instead of asking so many questions and arguing with everyone, why not spend your time reading and understanding how these things work?

I will read.
I dont want to talk anymore, because im tired of talking. Delete this topic if its possible

 

[moze]

you should be tired of thinking too since you think way too much. The best way to achieve what you want is to use brains not muscles and roids bro, only brains will get you to the top of the mountain