SARMS and TEST PROP

[TheVolk]

Hi there,

Im new in the forum, i have made 2 8w cycles before when i was 25.
I really cant describe what i taken in those, because i don't remember them correctly it was 6 years ago, but i took injections E3D on one cycle and with a mixture of 2 steroids and took some oral has wheel.

Im doing crossfit now and i guess i'm reaching plateau in my lifts, besides i want to improve my strength and endurance.
Our workouts also have a Strength/Power part and a Metcon.

My Stats:
Age: 32
High: 6'0
Weight: 189lbs
BF: 15%(±)

I was thinking in doing a Crossfit "Friendly" cycle for 8-10weeks, and my objectives are strength, increase lean body mass and increase my resistance, i would like to reach aprox. to 198lbs with this.

From what i have been reading, was thinking in SARMS triple stack or SARMS Ostarine and GW with some Pro-hormone or SARMS Ostarine and GW with Test Prop since has a short ester.

Can you guys give some help with the planning? Also my diet i should need some help with how much to intake.

Be waiting for your help.

Tks

 

[the_waco_kid]

I think you are on the right track! GW sounds like it would be perfect for a cross fit training routine.

Prop and GW does sounds like a great stack if it was me. Nice and simple, and effective. I'd be careful using an oral or pro hormone since you can get some pretty awesome/awful pumps (depending on how you look at it). Which may be bad for Coss fit but Post your training routine so it is more clear.

Gaining 10 lbs certainly sounds attainable but you'll have to eat right, and a lot since you burn a lot of cals in cross guys.

If ya want diet advice post what you currently eat and we can help tweak.

 

[stretch512]

Welcome to evo! Carnadine (GW-50156) would be awesome for you since you like to crossfit. It will give you a boost of endurance and easy breathing. You might consider dropping BF % lower because of your height you could lean out more and when you are ready to start puting on gains they would be lean gains instead of trying to add lean gains to on to body fat. This is just my opinion and remember that there are lots of different body types out there. I think that building a proper base before you in embark on using would only benefit you. There are more experienced users here that can help educate you on short esters versus long ones but Test E at 8-12 weeks around 500mg a week would put some gains on. With GW you should not experience any loss in cardio either and this goes for any Test ester you choose. Keep asking questions and refine your goals and you will be on your way in no time.

 

[stevesmi]

gw and EQ ...

 

[stretch512]

^^^ That would be really good too!

 

[gymrat827]

tes p 50mg EOD

EQ 200mg 2x a wk

GW/cardarine 20mg 10/10 am/pm


You should still be able to hit the sarm one sale if you act quick

 

[TheVolk]

Tks guys for your help and welcome!
Stretch512 i tottally agree with you in droping BF% completely. For that can i do a SARMS only cycle?

With the diet im reafing some stuff now to help me planne it.

EQ isnt a long ester?

 

[RickRock]

If you want to run a short cycle, EQ may not be ideal for you. Try this:

Test P 100mg EOD
OXANDROVAR 3 caps per day
GW 20mg per day (sarms1)
S4 50mg per day

 

[TheVolk]

RickRock what about thank you very much for the suggestion!
Isnt 50mg/day of S4 to much because of the vision side effects...?
And OXANDROVAR isnt a oral?
That maybee give me Muscle pumps, right?

What about PCT and AI?

 

[iron_z]

50 mg of s4 is typical dose.. I know some do 5 on & 2 days off to reduce the the vision sides but I'm on 50 mg of s4 at the moment and I barely notice it.. Everyone reacts differently.

Oxandrovar is an oral and I'm sure you'd get great pumps.. There are some logs so check them out for more feedback.

Aromasin 12.5 mg eod seems to be the standard for an Ai.. You may need more or less depending on how you respond

 

[TheVolk]

iron_z tks preciate your help/opinion.

Guys do you think i should do a SARMS only triple stack to first cut the BF% ?

 

[iron_z]

The results from sarms can be amazing if your diet and training are dialed in.. You definitely want to be fairly lean before you consider running any ph/steroid.

 

[stretch512]

He TheVolk, look at the Sarms1 board reps especially Dylan G. He has put together a lot of SARMS cycles designed for cutting or bulking or just to get a bad ass cycle. They are literally all over this board on various threads. Going with the SARMS triple stack first might be a great way to go so you can lean out to where you want the base to be. Just step up the cardio and switch it on over to freight train mode and you should start seeing results. Then when you are ready test eq will give you some great results but all the other bros who posted up here offer good suggestions too. Get your post count up to 50 then you can PM a vet and really ask more specific questions. Good Luck Bro!

 

[TheVolk]

Tks once again guys...
I will try to do that keed training hard and adjust my intake.
And will start with some SARMS to cut for sure, only SARMS...and then i will try the other.

 

[Shrine]

You could run a sarms1 triple stack and the last 6 weeks run oxandrovar. Sarms are so versatile you can really do any combination.

I'm actually running a eq test cycle now with sarms incorporated

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[dylangemelli]

i have two cycles for you... please follow one or the other you are comfortable with... one contains sarms and oxandrovar which is the best pro hormone i have ever used and i stand by that all the way OR the sarms triple stack... as a cross fitter, i would be much more apt to run the triple stack however with your goals of adding nearly 10 lbs, you would want the oxandrovar all the way... it will be extremely beneficial in keeping body fat down and adding size... here are both cycles with the links on where to get everything...

sarms triple stack

1-12 Ostarine 25 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m. www.sarms1.com
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg in the p.m. www.sarms1.com
1-12 GW-510516 (CARDARINE) 10-20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout… www.sarms1.com
5-12 HcGenerate n2bm.com
1-12 “liquidex" n2bm.com
1-12 Yohimflame n2bm.com
3-7 9-12 Albuterol 12-18 mg day ag-guys.com
1-12 need2slin www.n2bm.com
1-12 n2burn www.n2bm.com


Mini pct 13-16

Hcgenerate ES n2bm.com
gw-501516 20 mg day www.sarms1.com




sarms and oxandrovar stack

1-14 GW-501516 20 mg day www.sarms1.com

1-12 s4 50 mg day www.sarms1.com

1-12 lgd-4033 10 mg day www.sarms1.com

1-12 “liquidex” www.n2bm.com
1-12 n2guard n2bm.com
5-12 HCGenerate n2bm.com
7-12 oxandrovar 2 caps a day first 3 weeks then bump to 3 caps a day www.myproh.com

PCT 13-16

clomid 50/50/25/25 AG-guys.com

nolva 40/20/20/20 ag-guys.com
aromasin 12..5 mg eod AG-guys.com
n2guard n2bm.com
ostarine 25 mg day www.sarms1.com

 

[jbranken]

^ nice setups, Dylan. I expecially like the sarms and oxandrovar stack. I personally run sarms between all of my cycles. I love the results

 

[TheVolk]

Hi guys!!!

dyllangemelli i will go with the SARMS Oxa stack... I want to reach ma of goals as much as possible.

Clomid and nolva doses that you mentioned are weakly right!?
And what about aromasin is it 12.5mg or .5mg EOD?

Do you think i should first try to get my BF decreases natturaly?

Tks once again

 

[hurricane]

aromasin is 12.5 mg eod


at 15% bf you can run a sarms cycle.Anything over 20% bf, i dont advise them to even use sarms products except gw, until they drop their bf to under 20%.They simply are not needed for their goals

 

[TheVolk]

50 mg of s4 is typical dose.. I know some do 5 on & 2 days off to reduce the the vision sides but I'm on 50 mg of s4 at the moment and I barely notice it.. Everyone reacts differently.

Oxandrovar is an oral and I'm sure you'd get great pumps.. There are some logs so check them out for more feedback.

Aromasin 12.5 mg eod seems to be the standard for an Ai.. You may need more or less depending on how you respond

Thanks iron_z!!!
Yeah... have been reading and aquiring more details into it.

I will start getting the stuff this month and when i start i will make a log.

Cheers guys

 

[TheVolk]

i have two cycles for you... please follow one or the other you are comfortable with... one contains sarms and oxandrovar which is the best pro hormone i have ever used and i stand by that all the way OR the sarms triple stack... as a cross fitter, i would be much more apt to run the triple stack however with your goals of adding nearly 10 lbs, you would want the oxandrovar all the way... it will be extremely beneficial in keeping body fat down and adding size... here are both cycles with the links on where to get everything...

sarms triple stack

1-12 Ostarine 25 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m. www.sarms1.com
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg in the p.m. www.sarms1.com
1-12 GW-510516 (CARDARINE) 10-20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout… www.sarms1.com
5-12 HcGenerate n2bm.com
1-12 “liquidex" n2bm.com
1-12 Yohimflame n2bm.com
3-7 9-12 Albuterol 12-18 mg day ag-guys.com
1-12 need2slin www.n2bm.com
1-12 n2burn www.n2bm.com


Mini pct 13-16

Hcgenerate ES n2bm.com
gw-501516 20 mg day www.sarms1.com




sarms and oxandrovar stack

1-14 GW-501516 20 mg day www.sarms1.com

1-12 s4 50 mg day www.sarms1.com

1-12 lgd-4033 10 mg day www.sarms1.com

1-12 “liquidex” www.n2bm.com
1-12 n2guard n2bm.com
5-12 HCGenerate n2bm.com
7-12 oxandrovar 2 caps a day first 3 weeks then bump to 3 caps a day www.myproh.com

PCT 13-16

clomid 50/50/25/25 AG-guys.com

nolva 40/20/20/20 ag-guys.com
aromasin 12..5 mg eod AG-guys.com
n2guard n2bm.com
ostarine 25 mg day www.sarms1.com

Hi again guys,

im preparing the stack...the thing is, can anyone explaine me why should i use Albuterol?

Tks

 

[dylangemelli]

Hi again guys,

im preparing the stack...the thing is, can anyone explaine me why should i use Albuterol?

Tks

you don't HAVE to but it will burn fat and is anti catabolic and will actually add lean muscle in addition to enhancing your gym performance... its just a very nice compliment on a cycle, especially with sarms...