Recovering correctly while on pct?

[DaniGarcia]

Hi guys! I'm currently on my 6 day of PCT 40/40/20/20/10 of nolva and 50/50/25/25/12.5mg of clomid After my First cycle of dbol @ 30mg/ed for 4 weeks and test @ 400mg/wk for 8weeks, i had some good gains about 20lbs, and the sides effects i've run into are: an initial stage gyno (the lumps are slowly getting smaller now), ball shrunk, little joint pain and crazy hair growth especially on my face and chest. My stats are height 1.78m weight 85kg and i'm 23.
I don't actually feel getting any better, i've noticed today that i had problems getting my dick hard, my balls are not getting any bigger and i feel in general a little down since i've started PCT. I'm new to steroids so i wanted to know if i have to get my nolva or clomid at a higher dosage? or if i justvhave to wait and be patient.

I'm asking y'all this because i red on other forums that you usually feel good on the initial stage of PCT since your test production Is boosted by nolva and clomid and then you start feeling down on the last week, while me at the moment i don't feel great and i have just started it.

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Have you not used an AI throughout all of this, Dani?

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Too, what is your current percentage of body fat?

 

[Fella Finn]

...I don't actually feel getting any better, i've noticed today that i had problems getting my dick hard, my balls are not getting any bigger and i feel in general a little down since i've started PCT. I'm new to steroids so i wanted to know if i have to get my nolva or clomid at a higher dosage? or if i justvhave to wait and be patient.

There are certain individuals who may need to go above the typical 50mg of clomid per day dosage but before doing any of that I'd first suggest to get your bloodwork done to see what's going on.

 

[DaniGarcia]

Have you not used an AI throughout all of this, Dani?

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Too, what is your current percentage of body fat?

Sorry i forgot to mention my AI, i've been using arimidex, but i got gyno because i was not taking it (i know it's a stupid thing to do, i will take It more seriously next time), i started using It at 1mg EOD when i already had gyno lumps, but fortunatly they are getting smaller now with nolva.

My bodyfat percentage it's around 12 to 15%.

Do you think i should up my clomid dose? And do you think it's normal having problems getting my dick hard and that my balls aren't getting bigger eventhough i'm on my first week of cycle?

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There are certain individuals who may need to go above the typical 50mg of clomid per day dosage but before doing any of that I'd first suggest to get your bloodwork done to see what's going on.

Okay thanks mate!

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Sorry i forgot to mention my AI, i've been using arimidex, but i got gyno because i was not taking it (i know it's a stupid thing to do, i will take It more seriously next time), i started using It at 1mg EOD when i already had gyno lumps, but fortunatly they are getting smaller now with nolva.

My bodyfat percentage it's around 12 to 15%.

Do you think i should up my clomid dose? And do you think it's normal having problems getting my dick hard and that my balls aren't getting bigger eventhough i'm on my first week of cycle?

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Okay thanks mate!

I think that you would be better served were you to begin to take 12.5mg of aromasin every other day for the remainder of your PCT.
Your percentage of body fat is not all that high and therefore not especially problematic respecting estrogen-related sides. So the aforementioned dose of aromasin should eliminate your gyno'.
Finally, Dani, in the future please be sure to run aromasin from the very beginning of all of your cycles until the end of all of your PCTs.

 

[stevesmi]

you are way too young to be using steroids bro.. playing with your hormones is always a huge gamble and there is a chance you will never feel the same again

having said that your pct is awful. clomid and nolva at those dosages will cause these sides in MOST guys.. just google.. i'm not sure what 'website' you are getting your info but SERM's do not 'recover you'... the purpose of PCT is to provide a soft landing. only your own body can recover you. so throwing even MORE DRUGS at the problem wont fix it.

 

[Gruntwerkz]

you are way too young to be using steroids bro.. playing with your hormones is always a huge gamble and there is a chance you will never feel the same again

having said that your pct is awful. clomid and nolva at those dosages will cause these sides in MOST guys.. just google.. i'm not sure what 'website' you are getting your info but SERM's do not 'recover you'... the purpose of PCT is to provide a soft landing. only your own body can recover you. so throwing even MORE DRUGS at the problem wont fix it.

Agreed and well said Steve.

However since you already ran the cycle it’s to late to go back, so let’s learn from your errors. First 8 weeks on long esters is pointless really, unless it’s a stronger compound - essentially your test levels were only up for the last 4 weeks.

You didn’t research PCT enough or AI usage.

Most of all you’re way to young.

Anyway add an AI now and lower your SERM doses. Next time wait until you’re older and run a proper 12 week test cycle only.

 

[DaniGarcia]

you are way too young to be using steroids bro.. playing with your hormones is always a huge gamble and there is a chance you will never feel the same again

having said that your pct is awful. clomid and nolva at those dosages will cause these sides in MOST guys.. just google.. i'm not sure what 'website' you are getting your info but SERM's do not 'recover you'... the purpose of PCT is to provide a soft landing. only your own body can recover you. so throwing even MORE DRUGS at the problem wont fix it.

Actually the nolva and clomid dosages are taken by the perfect PCT here on evo, if you think the dosages are not correct could you please give me the dosages i should run?

 

[Mobster]

you are way too young to be using steroids bro.. playing with your hormones is always a huge gamble and there is a chance you will never feel the same again

having said that your pct is awful. clomid and nolva at those dosages will cause these sides in MOST guys.. just google.. i'm not sure what 'website' you are getting your info but SERM's do not 'recover you'... the purpose of PCT is to provide a soft landing. only your own body can recover you. so throwing even MORE DRUGS at the problem wont fix it.

Yep. I'm with Stevesmi. You're too young for a start and PCT? It's kinda half baked at best

 

[stevesmi]

Actually the nolva and clomid dosages are taken by the perfect PCT here on evo, if you think the dosages are not correct could you please give me the dosages i should run?

using the SERMs solo is going to suck.. the perfect pct might have the same dosages yes but you are also stacking in other things to counter act the sides

for me i always tell my clients to run half the SERM dosages listed in the perfect pct. less is better in my view

 

[muskate]

Sorry i forgot to mention my AI, i've been using arimidex, but i got gyno because i was not taking it (i know it's a stupid thing to do, i will take It more seriously next time), i started using It at 1mg EOD when i already had gyno lumps, but fortunatly they are getting smaller now with nolva.

My bodyfat percentage it's around 12 to 15%.

Do you think i should up my clomid dose? And do you think it's normal having problems getting my dick hard and that my balls aren't getting bigger eventhough i'm on my first week of cycle?

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Okay thanks mate!

Don't up your dosages. Recovery takes time dude. It's not going to happen over night. Even with a perfect PCT protocol recovery still takes weeks/months

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

Give it time and don't stress out. You are only on day 6. It takes a long time to recover. Months and months for some people. Proper recovery takes times.