Veteran Log Sustanon Trenomast Deca Dbol Cycle Journal

[BeMe]

Split it 1 hour apart

Even worse!!! Lol

 

[LevButlerov]

Even worse!!! Lol

always better split it lol

 

[BeMe]

always better split it lol

Oh and rinse your mouth out good after. That stuff can rot your teeth apparently

 

[LevButlerov]

Oh and rinse your mouth out good after. That stuff can rot your teeth apparently

1 tbsp wont rot your teeth it will help you build mouth bacteria, you are using the raw kind right?

 

[BeMe]

1 tbsp wont rot your teeth it will help you build mouth bacteria, you are using the raw kind right?

I'm not sure. I'll have to check that. I just grabbed what my wife already had in the cabinet.

I saw online the acidity is bad for your teeth so you should rinse your mouth after drinking it. I guess it can't be any worse than coca cola when I think about it

 

[LevButlerov]

I'm not sure. I'll have to check that. I just grabbed what my wife already had in the cabinet.

I saw online the acidity is bad for your teeth so you should rinse your mouth after drinking it. I guess it can't be any worse than coca cola when I think about it

Different kind of acidity its not cola

 

[BeMe]

Different kind of acidity its not cola

Lol nothing is like coca cola. You can strip paint with that stuff... literally. My professional golfer friend did it on his putter to get rid of any glare

 

[LevButlerov]

I'm not sure. I'll have to check that. I just grabbed what my wife already had in the cabinet.

Throw up a pic when you get a chance

 

[LevButlerov]

I saw online the acidity is bad for your teeth so you should rinse your mouth after drinking it. I guess it can't be any worse than coca cola when I think about it

@BeMe apple cider vinegar has acetic acid, and that type of acidity actually helps digestion, supports healthy gut bacteria, and can even improve how your body handles blood sugar. It’s a natural fermentation product so your body knows how to use it in small amounts without causing harm. Coca Cola acidity mostly comes from phosphoric acid combined with a big sugar load, and that combo stresses your stomach lining and teeth. It doesn’t help digestion, it just irritates and creates an acidic environment that leads to inflammation. One is a natural aid for your system, the other is a chemical stressor with no benefit. That’s the simple reason vinegar acidity is seen as healthy while soda acidity is not.

Lol nothing is like coca cola. You can strip paint with that stuff... literally. My professional golfer friend did it on his putter to get rid of any glare

 

[BeMe]

Throw up a pic when you get a chance

Based on the brand I'm thinking it's the bad kind lol.

 

[HarleyGuy]

@LevButlerov @BeMe

Thanks boys for the great advice and dialogue! I'm gonna pop into the warm and fuzzy left wing 'vegans everywhere' organic health food store and grab some raw apple cider vinegar this morning. I'll just take a small swig before meals. I used to chug vinegar in high school for shock value so I can hack it. @BeMe pony up big dawg and crush that vinegar . I'm slowly getting through your log it's a good read!

 

[BeMe]

@LevButlerov @BeMe

Thanks boys for the great advice and dialogue! I'm gonna pop into the warm and fuzzy left wing 'vegans everywhere' organic health food store and grab some raw apple cider vinegar this morning. I'll just take a small swig before meals. I used to chug vinegar in high school for shock value so I can hack it. @BeMe pony up big dawg and crush that vinegar . I'm slowly getting through your log it's a good read!

I'm sure you can build a tolerance to it over time. It's an acquired taste like wine lol. Those first few times are a bit shocking, especially cuz there's no apple flavour at all lol

 

[HarleyGuy]

Log Update: 25Aug2025

SHIT SHOW OF A DAY LMAO

I binge ate dry roasted soya beans at midnight and woke up a bloated beluga whale. Stomach looked like I was 7 months pregnant ALL freakin day. Force fed myself Meal # 1 (protein shake) and it got even worse. Now I know what strongmen feel like when they use their stomach to get those stones up and onto the barrels!

Protein Yesterday: 152 grams


Training yesterday: Constantly sucking in my bloated whale belly when out of the house! So, maybe an ab workout? LOL



Diet: OMAD YESTERDAY
Meal # 1 at 08:00 then fasted until I'm writing this at 08:00 on 26Aug2025 = 24 hour fast and it worked, bloat subsided and back to normal.
Meal # 1 at 08:00:

Protein shake
Whey 3-scoops = 450 cals 75g P 9g C 9g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen Peptide Protein 1 scoop same size as the whey 68 cals 17g P
Creatine 20g
1 cup blueberries
4 tbsp cinnamon
vanilla extract

20g psyllium husk chugged in water before meal (measured using a 5g creatine scoop that I don't use because I use the whey protein scoop from my protein to take 20g creatine ED)

Meal # 1 total:
838 cals
152g P
15g F
21g C

Total yesterday 25Aug2025:
838 cals
152g Protein
15g Fat
21g Carbs

20g Psyllium husk
20g Creatine

Peptides yesterday:
GLOW (70mg total per vial - GHK 50mg/TB 10mg/BPC 10mg) @ 1.25mg/250mcg/250mcg twice daily AM and PM
**LAST DAY OF IGF1-LR3** IGF1-LR3 50mcg in morning (running for 4 weeks - loaded 3ml bac water into 1mg vial and draw to about 15iu)
Jeotropin HGH 3iu @ night fasted
MK677 20mg now **new dose** - right before bed **tolerating new dose of 20mg MK677 well - no lethargy**


Supps yesterday:

Absolutely ZERO: Fasted from 08:00 25Aug-26Aug 08:00. Drank a gallon of water and Gatorade Zero.

GEAR today:

No pin

Orals: 20mg dbol

Breakdown of Weekly cycle:
800mg TestE
200mg TestP (equals 1g Test in the form of my own "Sust" blend)
300mg Deca
200mg TrenA
200mg MastP
100mg DHB
oral: 140mg dbol

Total weekly gear breakdown:
1.14g T
500mg 19-Nor
300mg DHT

Questions:
- None today

 

[LevButlerov]

Based on the brand I'm thinking it's the bad kind lol.

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You need to get the RAW one with Mother, not this one @BeMe
see @justapotato just had digestive help with Apple cider vinegar
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...cycle-sponsored-by-ugl-oz.105184/post-1815725

 

[LevButlerov]

@LevButlerov @BeMe

Thanks boys for the great advice and dialogue! I'm gonna pop into the warm and fuzzy left wing 'vegans everywhere' organic health food store and grab some raw apple cider vinegar this morning. I'll just take a small swig before meals. I used to chug vinegar in high school for shock value so I can hack it. @BeMe pony up big dawg and crush that vinegar . I'm slowly getting through your log it's a good read!

LOL not a swig you should do just 1tbps @HarleyGuy

 

[LevButlerov]

Log Update: 25Aug2025

SHIT SHOW OF A DAY LMAO

I binge ate dry roasted soya beans at midnight and woke up a bloated beluga whale. Stomach looked like I was 7 months pregnant ALL freakin day. Force fed myself Meal # 1 (protein shake) and it got even worse. Now I know what strongmen feel like when they use their stomach to get those stones up and onto the barrels!

Protein Yesterday: 152 grams


Training yesterday: Constantly sucking in my bloated whale belly when out of the house! So, maybe an ab workout? LOL



Diet: OMAD YESTERDAY
Meal # 1 at 08:00 then fasted until I'm writing this at 08:00 on 26Aug2025 = 24 hour fast and it worked, bloat subsided and back to normal.
Meal # 1 at 08:00:

Protein shake
Whey 3-scoops = 450 cals 75g P 9g C 9g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen Peptide Protein 1 scoop same size as the whey 68 cals 17g P
Creatine 20g
1 cup blueberries
4 tbsp cinnamon
vanilla extract

20g psyllium husk chugged in water before meal (measured using a 5g creatine scoop that I don't use because I use the whey protein scoop from my protein to take 20g creatine ED)

Meal # 1 total:
838 cals
152g P
15g F
21g C

Total yesterday 25Aug2025:
838 cals
152g Protein
15g Fat
21g Carbs

20g Psyllium husk
20g Creatine

Peptides yesterday:
GLOW (70mg total per vial - GHK 50mg/TB 10mg/BPC 10mg) @ 1.25mg/250mcg/250mcg twice daily AM and PM
**LAST DAY OF IGF1-LR3** IGF1-LR3 50mcg in morning (running for 4 weeks - loaded 3ml bac water into 1mg vial and draw to about 15iu)
Jeotropin HGH 3iu @ night fasted
MK677 20mg now **new dose** - right before bed **tolerating new dose of 20mg MK677 well - no lethargy**


Supps yesterday:

Absolutely ZERO: Fasted from 08:00 25Aug-26Aug 08:00. Drank a gallon of water and Gatorade Zero.

GEAR today:

No pin

Orals: 20mg dbol

Breakdown of Weekly cycle:
800mg TestE
200mg TestP (equals 1g Test in the form of my own "Sust" blend)
300mg Deca
200mg TrenA
200mg MastP
100mg DHB
oral: 140mg dbol

Total weekly gear breakdown:
1.14g T
500mg 19-Nor
300mg DHT

Questions:
- None today

Try to get better prebed snacks, soy beans will bloat you up. Better use almonds and walnuts. @HarleyGuy
how do you feel fasted?

 

[justapotato]

You need to get the RAW one with Mother, not this one @BeMe
see @justapotato just had digestive help with Apple cider vinegar
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...cycle-sponsored-by-ugl-oz.105184/post-1815725

Yes brother still getting used to it but feeling much better in the morning now because of it, getting first meal down doesnt feel like a chore anymore

 

[HarleyGuy]

LOL not a swig you should do just 1tbps @HarleyGuy

Haha the addict in me needs to be toned down. One tbsp it is. Lol

 

[HarleyGuy]

Yes brother still getting used to it but feeling much better in the morning now because of it, getting first meal down doesnt feel like a chore anymore

Just ordered this this morning.

 

[BeMe]

Haha the addict in me needs to be toned down. One tbsp it is. Lol

I was thinking that when I see your creatine intake lol

 

[HarleyGuy]

Try to get better prebed snacks, soy beans will bloat you up. Better use almonds and walnuts. @HarleyGuy
how do you feel fasted?

When I’m fasted it makes me hyper and want to go go. Whether I could lift fasted I doubt it, I’d go hypo. I went hypo once lifting fasted and I got dizzy AF and had diarrhea and needed to get OJ fast!

 

[HarleyGuy]

Probably hard to tell to the average Joe but I’m definitely putting on some size. Up 3-4 lbs consistently each morning now past 2-3 days.

 

[LevButlerov]

When I’m fasted it makes me hyper and want to go go. Whether I could lift fasted I doubt it, I’d go hypo. I went hypo once lifting fasted and I got dizzy AF and had diarrhea and needed to get OJ fast!

Dont lift if you go hypo but fasting cleans you out well

 

[LevButlerov]

Probably hard to tell to the average Joe but I’m definitely putting on some size. Up 3-4 lbs consistently each morning now past 2-3 days.

You're looking BIG! really big I can tell the size max out. @HarleyGuy huge arms huge shoulders.

 

[BeMe]

Probably hard to tell to the average Joe but I’m definitely putting on some size. Up 3-4 lbs consistently each morning now past 2-3 days.

Bro I just noticed how insane your delts are.

You look like one of those professional CrossFit guys. Built like a brick house

 

[LevButlerov]

Haha the addict in me needs to be toned down. One tbsp it is. Lol

welcome to my world when I drink Kombucha lol

Just ordered this this morning.

 

[LevButlerov]

Yes brother still getting used to it but feeling much better in the morning now because of it, getting first meal down doesnt feel like a chore anymore

That is a good brand raw!

 

[BeMe]

welcome to my world when I drink Kombucha lol

Oh ya that shit is nasty!!!

I'd much rather eat Kimchi or Japanese fermented radish..they stink up your house but do taste good.

 

[HarleyGuy]

Log Update today 23Aug2025


Protein Update: 591 grams today!
Psyllium husk added today: 15g with each meal


Training today: **focusing on arms after the injury**

Chest: dumbbell press: warmup with 45's x 2 sets. 1 set of 60's for 12 reps then 2 sets of 75's with the last set being a super deep stretch and max press to failure (with spotter for last set).
Chest: machine pec deck 4 sets all to failure starting light and maxing out on 3rd set heavy then stripping to same weight of 2nd set and burning out to failure

**never been strong/confident on bench without a spotter plus I really like the deep stretch the dumbbell press gives that the barbell bench press doesn't**

Bi's: concentration curls - 20's warmup 3 sets. 40's to failure 3 sets 8reps, 8reps, 5reps immediate transition to dropset to 25's to failure 12reps with a focus on a tight squeeze at the top of the concentric.
Bi's: EZ bar curl - 20's each side warmup 1 set. 25's each side 1 set 12reps. 30's each side 1 set 12reps. 40's each side 1 set to failure until I starting 'swinging' it, 6 reps with good form and holding the contraction at the top of the concentric.
Bi's: cable bicep machine - 3 sets to failure increasing weight each set. 4th set back to the weight of 2nd set and burnout to failure

Tri's: One dumbbell behind the head raise - 30's for warmup 2 sets of 15. Controlled decent and deep stretch with 50's for 11 reps, 60's for 7 reps and 70's to failure 8 reps focusing on the eccentrics. Then I grabbed the 30's again and just went to failure.
Tri's: cable bar pushdown - no warmup just 3 sets to failure increasing weight each time.
Tri's: tried dips but elbow injury was saying no on the 2nd set so stopped

Quads: Did quad extensions to failure x 3 sets waiting for the dips machine

**elbow injury no real issues - glad I stopped the dips**



Diet: 2MAD TODAY


Meal # 1 (Protein shake and 500g egg whites with 6 whole eggs and 2 x banana 30g milk protein drink):

Protein shake
Whey 3-scoops = 450 cals 75g P 9g C 9g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen Peptide Protein 1 scoop same size as the whey 68 cals 17g P
Creatine 20g
1 cup blueberries
4 tbsp cinnamon
vanilla extract

838 cals
152 P
15g F
21g C

Bacon slices x 4:
300 cals
24 P
24 F
0 C

500g egg whites (whole carton) + 6 whole eggs (check out that pic of a mountain of eggs! LOL):
790 cals
95 P
45 F
3 C

Premier Protein 30g Vanilla Protein drink x 2:
200cals
60 P
5 F
10 C


Meal # 1 total:
2128 cals
331 P
89 F
34 C



Meal # 2 total (1kg pork tenderloin):

1357 cals
260 P
40 F
0 C


Total today 23Aug2025:
3485 cals
591g Protein
129g Fat
34g Carbs


Peptides today:
GLOW (70mg total per vial - GHK 50mg/TB 10mg/BPC 10mg) @ 1.25mg/250mcg/250mcg twice daily AM and PM
**finished IGF1-LR3**
Jeotropin HGH 3iu @ night fasted
MK677 20mg now **new dose** - right before bed **going to see if the 20mg was the cause of the lethargy and see if I can tolerate 20mg for a few days**


Supps today:
Digest Gold 2 caps before each meal (I usually take what the bottle says and double it LOL)
NAC 1600mg
Biotin 10mg (10,000 mcg) x 3 = 30mg biotin (thin hair lol) **upped this to 30mg**
Berberine 1000mg (with every meal)
Milk Thistle 3 pills providing 450mg of silymarin
Mutant multi vitamin x 2 (one with meal# 1 and meal #2)
Creatine 20g with protein shake
Psyllium husk 30g
Ubiquinol 100mg


GEAR today:
Nothing pinned today but full weeks worth pin tomorrow (8CC - 4&4 in two locations)

Orals: 20mg dbol

Breakdown of Weekly cycle:
800mg TestE
200mg TestP (equals 1g Test in the form of my own "Sust" blend)
300mg Deca
200mg TrenA
200mg MastP
100mg DHB
oral: 140mg dbol

Total weekly gear breakdown:
1.14g T
500mg 19-Nor
300mg DHT

Questions:
- If I ate late is the HGH still useful to run at 3iu or will the late night meal and hence insulin spike (albeit mostly a protein/fat meal) just offset the HGH? @LevButlerov

 

[Noah Wixx]

Bro I just noticed how insane your delts are.

You look like one of those professional CrossFit guys. Built like a brick house

Im America we call that built like a brick shit house

 

[Mobster]

Probably hard to tell to the average Joe but I’m definitely putting on some size. Up 3-4 lbs consistently each morning now past 2-3 days.

Close to a half inch all over

 

[BeMe]

Questions:
- If I ate late is the HGH still useful to run at 3iu or will the late night meal and hence insulin spike (albeit mostly a protein/fat meal) just offset the HGH? @LevButlerov

What time are you pinning and eating? That's important to answer this question.

 

[stevesmi]

Probably hard to tell to the average Joe but I’m definitely putting on some size. Up 3-4 lbs consistently each morning now past 2-3 days.

for someone with your history this is impressive for sure. solid work. keep it rolling @HarleyGuy

 

[HarleyGuy]

Im America we call that built like a brick shit house

Haha that's awesome because we use that here too in Canada. Major compliment thank you. Once I'm done this cycle I might beg for an avatar pic update just out of pure vanity

 

[HarleyGuy]

What time are you pinning and eating? That's important to answer this question.

Ok so almost every single day I try and stick to the same timing. 2MAD. Meal 1 is morning like 09:30 and then workout is about 17:30 (5:30pm) then home to Meal 2 (never has carbs) and is always red meat, pork, or chicken around 19:30 (7:30pm). 3-4iu of HGH at about 23:00 before bed.

Last night I ate at almost 21:00 (9pm) and pinned 4iu at about 23:00 (11pm). There's so much data on timing of HGH it's hard to keep up. One thing I do know is that pinning the whole dose bolus and at night is the general consensus as well as what's written on the serostim insert after they did a decade of research but there's no mention of what having a meal in you does or if it matters. The studies show that an insulin spike before pinning HGH is not really helping my goals which is a clean bulk.

 

[2Thick]

Probably hard to tell to the average Joe but I’m definitely putting on some size. Up 3-4 lbs consistently each morning now past 2-3 days.

@HarleyGuy you are looking good. at the end of the day you are lucky to be alive. so everyday is a bonus

 

[BodyMonster34]

Probably hard to tell to the average Joe but I’m definitely putting on some size. Up 3-4 lbs consistently each morning now past 2-3 days.

bro we all average Joe's that good thing about forum. you hardcore though. even though you used to be a pig lol @HarleyGuy

 

[Ulter]

Probably hard to tell to the average Joe but I’m definitely putting on some size. Up 3-4 lbs consistently each morning now past 2-3 days.

@HarleyGuy 3-4lbs is perfect. if anything its too much. it will slow down as things go

 

[ROIDDERS]

Probably hard to tell to the average Joe but I’m definitely putting on some size. Up 3-4 lbs consistently each morning now past 2-3 days.

great work man. @HarleyGuy hard to tell or easy to tell doesn't matter. the point is you are doing well and improving

 

[ceo]

Probably hard to tell to the average Joe but I’m definitely putting on some size. Up 3-4 lbs consistently each morning now past 2-3 days.

Bros, I think you look good. And the most important thing is that inside you're getting healthier. That will definitely help everything as you get older @HarleyGuy

 

[HarleyGuy]

Little sneak peek into tonight's log update... check out this breakfast. Go big or go home. 6 whole eggs, 1+ lbs of egg whites, half pound of shredded cheese and a 1lb of bacon! Light weight food babyyyyyy!

 

[RoySimpson]

Probably hard to tell to the average Joe but I’m definitely putting on some size. Up 3-4 lbs consistently each morning now past 2-3 days.

@HarleyGuy keep on grinding bro!

 

[HarleyGuy]

Note to self: eating an entire bag of kale with 4 tomatoes and 4 red peppers as your dinner dessert is a recipe for the honor of "bloat lord" if EVO had that. UGH!

 

[LevButlerov]

Oh ya that shit is nasty!!!

I'd much rather eat Kimchi or Japanese fermented radish..they stink up your house but do taste good.

Dont hate the kombucha lol I am just very careful around alcoholic drinks now, even low alcohol kombucha, but it's amazing for digestion.

Chest: dumbbell press: warmup with 45's x 2 sets. 1 set of 60's for 12 reps then 2 sets of 75's with the last set being a super deep stretch and max press to failure (with spotter for last set).
Chest: machine pec deck 4 sets all to failure starting light and maxing out on 3rd set heavy then stripping to same weight of 2nd set and burning out to failure

**never been strong/confident on bench without a spotter plus I really like the deep stretch the dumbbell press gives that the barbell bench press doesn't**

You can do bench press no spotter just go low weight and rep it up slow.

**elbow injury no real issues - glad I stopped the dips**

I noticed no core work I suggest it daily.

Total today 23Aug2025:
3485 cals
591g Protein
129g Fat
34g Carbs

@HarleyGuy true protein KING!

Questions:
- If I ate late is the HGH still useful to run at 3iu or will the late night meal and hence insulin spike (albeit mostly a protein/fat meal) just offset the HGH? @LevButlerov

If you ate late it doesn’t cancel the HGH. A protein and fat meal won’t cause the same insulin spike as carbs so you’re still getting benefit. The main thing is HGH works best when insulin is low, so ideally you’d want a few hours gap. Even with a late meal, 3iu is still going to do its job, just maybe not at the absolute peak efficiency. Consistency with timing and overall routine matters more than one off meals.

 

[HarleyGuy]

@LevButlerov @BeMe

I don't want to tag bomb all the mods but just for fun would anyone be interested in seeing my bloods on the cycle I'm on now vs. the really good bloods I posted before it? I've only ever done my bloods on a big blast one time and my doc wanted to put me on statins, cholesterol was insane and E2 was way too low and weirdly so was prolactin but not as low as E2 (and this is with no AI's either) ... I came off for 4 weeks and everything was back in range (albeit high range but in range) and he was scratching his head... I said doc you need to watch more youtube on PEDS. He laughed and said no one is as honest with you so I don't bother

Reminder:

Breakdown of Weekly cycle:
800mg TestE
200mg TestP (equals 1g Test in the form of my own "Sust" blend)
300mg Deca
200mg TrenA
200mg MastP
100mg DHB
oral: 140mg dbol

Total weekly gear breakdown:
1.14g T
500mg 19-Nor
300mg DHT

 

[BeMe]

@LevButlerov @BeMe

I don't want to tag bomb all the mods but just for fun would anyone be interested in seeing my bloods on the cycle I'm on now vs. the really good bloods I posted before it? I've only ever done my bloods on a big blast one time and my doc wanted to put me on statins, cholesterol was insane and E2 was way too low and weirdly so was prolactin but not as low as E2 (and this is with no AI's either) ... I came off for 4 weeks and everything was back in range (albeit high range but in range) and he was scratching his head... I said doc you need to watch more youtube on PEDS. He laughed and said no one is as honest with you so I don't bother

Reminder:

Breakdown of Weekly cycle:
800mg TestE
200mg TestP (equals 1g Test in the form of my own "Sust" blend)
300mg Deca
200mg TrenA
200mg MastP
100mg DHB
oral: 140mg dbol

Total weekly gear breakdown:
1.14g T
500mg 19-Nor
300mg DHT

You're on a pretty hefty cycle. Personally I wanted to know where I was at peak cycle so I know how far I'm pushing my body. The. When you do post cycle bloods you'll know how quick you can bounce back.

 

[LevButlerov]

@LevButlerov @BeMe

I don't want to tag bomb all the mods but just for fun would anyone be interested in seeing my bloods on the cycle I'm on now vs. the really good bloods I posted before it? I've only ever done my bloods on a big blast one time and my doc wanted to put me on statins, cholesterol was insane and E2 was way too low and weirdly so was prolactin but not as low as E2 (and this is with no AI's either) ... I came off for 4 weeks and everything was back in range (albeit high range but in range) and he was scratching his head... I said doc you need to watch more youtube on PEDS. He laughed and said no one is as honest with you so I don't bother

Reminder:

Breakdown of Weekly cycle:
800mg TestE
200mg TestP (equals 1g Test in the form of my own "Sust" blend)
300mg Deca
200mg TrenA
200mg MastP
100mg DHB
oral: 140mg dbol

Total weekly gear breakdown:
1.14g T
500mg 19-Nor
300mg DHT

Wait, you have the bloods now or you're saying you can get them? of course we would be interested, lets see them @HarleyGuy
I think you'll have decent bloods but how to get them private is key now.

 

[HarleyGuy]

Dont hate the kombucha lol I am just very careful around alcoholic drinks now, even low alcohol kombucha, but it's amazing for digestion.

You can do bench press no spotter just go low weight and rep it up slow.

I noticed no core work I suggest it daily.

@HarleyGuy true protein KING!

If you ate late it doesn’t cancel the HGH. A protein and fat meal won’t cause the same insulin spike as carbs so you’re still getting benefit. The main thing is HGH works best when insulin is low, so ideally you’d want a few hours gap. Even with a late meal, 3iu is still going to do its job, just maybe not at the absolute peak efficiency. Consistency with timing and overall routine matters more than one off meals.

Lev @LevButlerov you're a fuckin Godsend man. Thank you for the HGH explanation that makes perfect sense. The bench press advice is seriously some clutch great advice because I hate not benching and have gotten so used to dumbbells.

And yes I need to work my core more, I will add it to the end of every workout moving forward, 100%.

I'm gonna post a condensed log update because I have a big announcement (well, big for me at least).

 

[BeMe]

Wait, you have the bloods now or you're saying you can get them? of course we would be interested, lets see them @HarleyGuy
I think you'll have decent bloods but how to get them private is key now.

Seems like everyone is saying no real private option where you can just order yourself, but these online health clinics are kind of a hack to between. A lot of the tests are covered by our provincial healthcare so it's not an too expensive to go the online clinic route

 

[LevButlerov]

Lev @LevButlerov you're a fuckin Godsend man. Thank you for the HGH explanation that makes perfect sense. The bench press advice is seriously some clutch great advice because I hate not benching and have gotten so used to dumbbells.

And yes I need to work my core more, I will add it to the end of every workout moving forward, 100%.

I'm gonna post a condensed log update because I have a big announcement (well, big for me at least).

EVO family here for you always!
Hoping to see your core improve and waiting on a big announcement thanks @HarleyGuy

 

[LevButlerov]

Seems like everyone is saying no real private option where you can just order yourself, but these online health clinics are kind of a hack to between. A lot of the tests are covered by our provincial healthcare so it's not an too expensive to go the online clinic route

Very strange I'm researching now talking to a few Canadian pros I know.

 

[HarleyGuy]

Very strange I'm researching now talking to a few Canadian pros I know.

That's a negative. It's done. See here: https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/how-to-get-private-bloodwork-done-in-canada.106348/

I will pop in and get it done tomorrow and prove the method works. No one gets copied on it but your private PED doc on teletest.ca and your own self.

 

[LevButlerov]

That's a negative. It's done. See here: https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/how-to-get-private-bloodwork-done-in-canada.106348/

I will pop in and get it done tomorrow and prove the method works. No one gets copied on it but your private PED doc on teletest.ca and your own self.

I just added more to the thread now found places to do private bloods.
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...-bloodwork-done-in-canada.106348/post-1817423

 

[HarleyGuy]

I just added more to the thread now found places to do private bloods.
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...-bloodwork-done-in-canada.106348/post-1817423

Excellent! We are on this. Long time coming!

 

[LevButlerov]

Excellent! We are on this. Long time coming!

EVO team

 

[HarleyGuy]

Condensed Log Update today 27Aug2025


Protein: 600 grams today!
Psyllium husk added today: 15g with each meal


Training today: Back

Back: Bent over rows x 3 sets, lat pulldown x 3 sets, seated rows x sets. Always to failure on last set.
Traps: Shrugs x 4 sets, incline dumbbell raises x 3 sets (chest on bench and hit lower traps)
Calves: standing raises (trying to hammer my calves)



Diet: 2MAD TODAY


Meal # 1 (Protein shake and 500g egg whites with 6 whole eggs and a pound of bacon):

Protein shake
Whey 3-scoops = 450 cals 75g P 9g C 9g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen Peptide Protein 1 scoop same size as the whey 68 cals 17g P
Creatine 20g
1 cup blueberries
4 tbsp cinnamon
vanilla extract

838 cals
152 P
15g F
21g C

Bacon slices x 12 (or more!):
1200 cals
93 P
96 F
0 C

500g egg whites (whole carton) + 6 whole eggs (see pics LOL):
790 cals
95 P
45 F
3 C

Meal # 1 total:
2828 cals
340 P
156 F
24 C



Meal # 2 total (1kg pork tenderloin):

1357 cals
260 P
40 F
0 C


Total today 23Aug2025:
4185 cals
600g Protein
196g Fat
24g Carbs


Peptides today:
GLOW (70mg total per vial - GHK 50mg/TB 10mg/BPC 10mg) @ 1.25mg/250mcg/250mcg twice daily AM and PM
**finished IGF1-LR3**
Jeotropin HGH 3iu @ night fasted
MK677 20mg - right before bed


Supps today:
Digest Gold 2 caps before each meal (I usually take what the bottle says and double it LOL)
NAC 1600mg
Biotin 10mg (10,000 mcg) x 3 = 30mg biotin (thin hair lol) **upped this to 30mg**
Berberine 1000mg (with every meal)
Milk Thistle 3 pills providing 450mg of silymarin
Mutant multi vitamin x 2 (one with meal# 1 and meal #2)
Creatine 20g with protein shake
Psyllium husk 30g
Ubiquinol 100mg


GEAR today:
Just sat down and it's almost midnight - PIN is due tomorrow now - a full weeks worth (see below)

Orals: 20mg dbol

Breakdown of Weekly cycle:
800mg TestE
200mg TestP (equals 1g Test in the form of my own "Sust" blend)
300mg Deca
200mg TrenA
200mg MastP
100mg DHB
oral: 140mg dbol

Total weekly gear breakdown:
1.14g T
500mg 19-Nor
300mg DHT

Questions:
- See announcement

 

[HarleyGuy]

**ANNOUNCMENT**

After waiting over three months after getting a referral to a gyno surgeon I got the call today and I have a consultation Friday 29Aug at 10:30am EST. I'm also going to get a quote for the lower stomach "ex fat guy" skin that hangs over my belt and lower back fat that plagues us old guys. I'm mainly interested in finding out what 'grade' my gyno, how much is saggy fatty tissue and how much is actual gyno as well as how much the surgery will be. I'm really excited about this.

I'm still going to run @LevButlerov cycle of nolva/aromasin/N2Guard/baby aspirin both to see if that can do the trick but also for the EVO board and use myself as a guinea pig to report back for others.

This has been a decade in the making and now I'll finally get this underway! Once I put away enough for it and have a date for surgery you know me, I might go all MENT/Superdrol crazy for 4 weeks and try all the shit I've generally stayed away from but we'll see LOL.

So obviously I'll be looking for any feedback from members who've had it especially on what to ask the doc when I go, what the recovery is like, and how to maintain my shape while I will be obviously on the bench for a while and out of the gym.

 

[LevButlerov]

**ANNOUNCMENT**

After waiting over three months after getting a referral to a gyno surgeon I got the call today and I have a consultation Friday 29Aug at 10:30am EST. I'm also going to get a quote for the lower stomach "ex fat guy" skin that hangs over my belt and lower back fat that plagues us old guys. I'm mainly interested in finding out what 'grade' my gyno, how much is saggy fatty tissue and how much is actual gyno as well as how much the surgery will be. I'm really excited about this.

I'm still going to run @LevButlerov cycle of nolva/aromasin/N2Guard/baby aspirin both to see if that can do the trick but also for the EVO board and use myself as a guinea pig to report back for others.

This has been a decade in the making and now I'll finally get this underway! Once I put away enough for it and have a date for surgery you know me, I might go all MENT/Superdrol crazy for 4 weeks and try all the shit I've generally stayed away from but we'll see LOL.

So obviously I'll be looking for any feedback from members who've had it especially on what to ask the doc when I go, what the recovery is like, and how to maintain my shape while I will be obviously on the bench for a while and out of the gym.

@HarleyGuy If you can get gynecomastia surgery, you don't need the tamoxifen TBH. You're better off waiting for the appointment first to see if the surgery is on the table.

So obviously I'll be looking for any feedback from members who've had it especially on what to ask the doc when I go, what the recovery is like, and how to maintain my shape while I will be obviously on the bench for a while and out of the gym.

Press the doctor. Tell him your chest hurts, pain in nipple, in both, hard to sleep and effects your quality of life, and you feel you need it removed for both physical and psychological health. Remember, going to the doctor doesn't mean you get the surgery. You need to press for it.
Recovery is nothing really a few weeks max and you're back. You can even do legs after a week.

 

[Nunya]

After waiting over three months after getting a referral to a gyno surgeon I got the call today and I have a consultation Friday 29Aug at 10:30am EST.

I had the same surgery when I was in my mid 20's and it was covered by medicare. I got the gyno from taking too much test cyp. 25yrs later I still have the scars on both sides.

 

[BeMe]

**ANNOUNCMENT**

After waiting over three months after getting a referral to a gyno surgeon I got the call today and I have a consultation Friday 29Aug at 10:30am EST. I'm also going to get a quote for the lower stomach "ex fat guy" skin that hangs over my belt and lower back fat that plagues us old guys. I'm mainly interested in finding out what 'grade' my gyno, how much is saggy fatty tissue and how much is actual gyno as well as how much the surgery will be. I'm really excited about this.

I'm still going to run @LevButlerov cycle of nolva/aromasin/N2Guard/baby aspirin both to see if that can do the trick but also for the EVO board and use myself as a guinea pig to report back for others.

This has been a decade in the making and now I'll finally get this underway! Once I put away enough for it and have a date for surgery you know me, I might go all MENT/Superdrol crazy for 4 weeks and try all the shit I've generally stayed away from but we'll see LOL.

So obviously I'll be looking for any feedback from members who've had it especially on what to ask the doc when I go, what the recovery is like, and how to maintain my shape while I will be obviously on the bench for a while and out of the gym.

Congrats. Hope it goes well!

Vigorous Steve was talking about getting his gyno done and said he would intentionally grow it before going to see the surgeon. His gyno is small he said. He wanted to grow it so they would get all of it in 1 shot so he wouldn't need to go back. Might be best to lay off to Tamoxifen.

 

[HarleyGuy]

@HarleyGuy If you can get gynecomastia surgery, you don't need the tamoxifen TBH. You're better off waiting for the appointment first to see if the surgery is on the table.


Press the doctor. Tell him your chest hurts, pain in nipple, in both, hard to sleep and effects your quality of life, and you feel you need it removed for both physical and psychological health. Remember, going to the doctor doesn't mean you get the surgery. You need to press for it.
Recovery is nothing really a few weeks max and you're back. You can even do legs after a week.

Thanks for the heads up.

They allow you to do a savings plan so it might be year or two before I've saved enough to pay for it. It's like $10,000 CDN here in Ontario and our health plan no longer covers it as it considered "cosmetic". I'll find out for sure to help decide whether to run the tamox and keep you guys posted.

 

[HarleyGuy]

@LevButlerov Is there a gyno surgery thread on EVO anywhere that you can point me to? I now trust EVO more than youtube, officially.

 

[LevButlerov]

@LevButlerov Is there a gyno surgery thread on EVO anywhere that you can point me to? I now trust EVO more than youtube, officially.

No gyno surgery thread per se, but you bring up a valid point we should have one @HarleyGuy

 

[LevButlerov]

Thanks for the heads up.

They allow you to do a savings plan so it might be year or two before I've saved enough to pay for it. It's like $10,000 CDN here in Ontario and our health plan no longer covers it as it considered "cosmetic". I'll find out for sure to help decide whether to run the tamox and keep you guys posted.

If you push them on life issue they will do it free

 

[BeMe]

If you push them on life issue they will do it free

I'd be interested to see if that possible. It's pretty cut and dry what they cover up here with the provincial insurance. There's not any room for argument from what I've heard.

What he needs to do is claim he transitioned and his gyno is related to gender affirmation and now he's transitioning back. I can GUARANTEE that will be covered.

 

[LevButlerov]

I'd be interested to see if that possible. It's pretty cut and dry what they cover up here with the provincial insurance. There's not any room for argument from what I've heard.

What he needs to do is claim he transitioned and his gyno is related to gender affirmation and now he's transitioning back. I can GUARANTEE that will be covered.

Thats genius I love that @BeMe

 

[HarleyGuy]

@BeMe @LevButlerov You guys are hilarious... no fuckin' way I'd play that angle without holding my smirk or burst out laughing, I would be so obviously full of shit and I'd be my own worst enemy trying to lie about that. But, fuck that was funny.

 

[HarleyGuy]

@Fusion Canada Touchdown!

Hey... in everyone's expert opinion (I'm hearing big talk about major shortages coming even more now) what is best to stock up on now? I have an Rx for TestE but I'm thinking stock up on the staples? I'm open to advice on this.

I'm gonna lay off the tren after this blast but I'm thinking EQ runs so well with TestE and Anavar I could cruise on that indefinitely and stock up? Those who know more about the raws coming in might be able to chime in.

 

[HarleyGuy]

No gyno surgery thread per se, but you bring up a valid point we should have one @HarleyGuy

Show me where to start it and I will and I'll include my consultation notes and prices in Ontario, Canada too ... I think it would be an excellent overall thread for every member!

 

[HarleyGuy]

Log Update today 28Aug2025


Protein Update PR'd the protein today! 618 grams today!
Psyllium husk added today: 15g with each meal


Training today: Rest day except core work

- 1000 crunches (didn't stop until 1000 were done, would go to failure then take a break). About half of them I'd angle up to hit obliques.



Diet: 2MAD TODAY


Meal # 1 (Protein shake and 1kg pork tenderloin **see pics**):

Protein shake
Whey 3-scoops = 450 cals 75g P 9g C 9g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen Peptide Protein 1 scoop same size as the whey 68 cals 17g P
Creatine 20g
1 cup blueberries
4 tbsp cinnamon
vanilla extract

838 cals
152 P
15g F
21g C

1kg pork tenderloin:
1355 cals
204 P
56 F
0 C


Meal # 1 total:
2193 cals
356 P
71 F
21 C



Meal # 2 total (0.82kg Striploin Steak):

Striploin Steak:
2640 cals
202 P
176 F
0 C

Premier Protein 30g Vanilla Protein drink x 2:
200cals
60 P
5 F
10 C


Meal # 2 total:
2840 cals
262 P
181 F
10 C


Total Cals and macros today 28Aug2025:
5033 cals
618g Protein
252g Fat
31g Carbs


Peptides today:

• GLOW (70mg total per vial - GHK 50mg/TB-500 10mg/BPC-157 10mg) @ 1.25mg/250mcg/250mcg twice daily AM and PM
• Jeotropin HGH 3iu @ night fasted
• MK677 20mg now **new dose** - right before bed **going to see if the 20mg was the cause of the lethargy and see if I can tolerate 20mg for a few days**

Supps today:
Digest Gold 2 caps before each meal (I usually take what the bottle says and double it LOL)
NAC 1600mg
Biotin 10mg (10,000 mcg) x 3 = 30mg biotin (thin hair lol) **upped this to 30mg**
Berberine 1000mg (with every meal)
Milk Thistle 3 pills providing 450mg of silymarin
Mutant multi vitamin x 2 (one with meal# 1 and meal #2)
Creatine 20g with protein shake
Psyllium husk 30g
Ubiquinol 100mg


GEAR today **pics included**:
Pinned weekly cycle as below (8CC in two pins - 4CC&4CC in left quad and right glute)

Orals: 20mg dbol, 12.5 aromasin

Breakdown of Weekly cycle:
800mg TestE
200mg TestP (equals 1g Test in the form of my own "Sust" blend)
300mg Deca
200mg TrenA
200mg MastP
100mg DHB
oral: 140mg dbol

Total weekly gear breakdown:
1.14g T
500mg 19-Nor
300mg DHT

Questions:

- I got "tren cough" for the first time tonight. First time since using tren on and off over the past 6 years! Tren pin went into left quad. It was less of a coughing fit but more of a buildup in my lungs and throat that felt like it was hard to breathe and was helped by coughing moreso than a coughing fit. I felt it coming on and knew what might be about to happen and was ready for it knew I'd survive and just let it happen. I probably coughed about 4-5 times. I took 3 puffs of a salbutamol inhaler and it seemed to help but the feeling lasted about 5-10 minutes. Is there a thread on EVO about what the hell this is? I'd love to ready about the science what this is; it's almost like a temporary congestive heart failure feeling LOL @LevButlerov

-

 

[Pigsy]

I never had Tren cough. But be scary first time

 

[LevButlerov]

@Fusion Canada Touchdown!

Hey... in everyone's expert opinion (I'm hearing big talk about major shortages coming even more now) what is best to stock up on now? I have an Rx for TestE but I'm thinking stock up on the staples? I'm open to advice on this.

I'm gonna lay off the tren after this blast but I'm thinking EQ runs so well with TestE and Anavar I could cruise on that indefinitely and stock up? Those who know more about the raws coming in might be able to chime in.

I would stock up on EQ and test and anavar if you can get it and get primobolan when @Fusion Canada releases it

 

[LevButlerov]

Show me where to start it and I will and I'll include my consultation notes and prices in Ontario, Canada too ... I think it would be an excellent overall thread for every member!

We will like do it in the Canada sub for the CA EVO brothers

 

[HarleyGuy]

We will like do it in the Canada sub for the CA EVO brothers

Ok... I'm still getting the hang of navigating around the site. Can't seem to find a subthread or main thread just for Canadians. Can you point me in the right direction and I'll start a "Gyno surgery in Canada - tips, results, cost, and advice" thread or something to that effect.

 

[LevButlerov]

- 1000 crunches (didn't stop until 1000 were done, would go to failure then take a break). About half of them I'd angle up to hit obliques.

@HarleyGuy perfect add some planks too.

Total Cals and macros today 28Aug2025:
5033 cals
618g Protein
252g Fat
31g Carbs

talk about high protein! protein KING win

Pinned weekly cycle as below (8CC in two pins - 4CC&4CC in left quad and right glute)

Yup looks nice and loaded.

Questions:

- I got "tren cough" for the first time tonight. First time since using tren on and off over the past 6 years! Tren pin went into left quad. It was less of a coughing fit but more of a buildup in my lungs and throat that felt like it was hard to breathe and was helped by coughing moreso than a coughing fit. I felt it coming on and knew what might be about to happen and was ready for it knew I'd survive and just let it happen. I probably coughed about 4-5 times. I took 3 puffs of a salbutamol inhaler and it seemed to help but the feeling lasted about 5-10 minutes. Is there a thread on EVO about what the hell this is? I'd love to ready about the science what this is; it's almost like a temporary congestive heart failure feeling LOL @LevButlerov

Tren cough is fairly normal, you can lower the side if you do microdosing like 20mgs ED of tren, and add cardarine (gw 501516).
Cardarine GW isn’t going to stop tren cough itself but it can help with breathing since it improves endurance and makes the lungs feel less stressed. What you want to do is keep your injections slow and steady so the oil doesn’t hit a vein and rush into your system too fast. If you do get the cough again, sit down, focus on calm breathing, and give it a few minutes to pass instead of panicking.
Cardarine can be useful to run alongside tren because it will help with oxygen use and make your cardio more comfortable while on tren. Keeping injection sites rotated and making sure the oil is warmed a bit before pinning can also cut down on the risk. I found more clients rotate sites with tren the less sides.

I never had Tren cough. But be scary first time

You're one of the very few @Pigsy

 

[HarleyGuy]

@HarleyGuy perfect add some planks too.

talk about high protein! protein KING win

Yup looks nice and loaded.

Tren cough is fairly normal, you can lower the side if you do microdosing like 20mgs ED of tren, and add cardarine (gw 501516).
Cardarine GW isn’t going to stop tren cough itself but it can help with breathing since it improves endurance and makes the lungs feel less stressed. What you want to do is keep your injections slow and steady so the oil doesn’t hit a vein and rush into your system too fast. If you do get the cough again, sit down, focus on calm breathing, and give it a few minutes to pass instead of panicking.
Cardarine can be useful to run alongside tren because it will help with oxygen use and make your cardio more comfortable while on tren. Keeping injection sites rotated and making sure the oil is warmed a bit before pinning can also cut down on the risk. I found more clients rotate sites with tren the less sides.

You're one of the very few @Pigsy

Ah yes planks! Good call. I just ordered a roller wheel I find that hits my core hard AF... try and go all the way down and back up and repeat while watching a Dateline or something.

I used to run my pins under hot water and warm them up but haven't in years. Next time I run tren (probably not for a while) I will definitely do that.
I rotate my sites big time. Glutes, quads, lats, delts mainly. I've even experimented with doing tricep, calves and pecs but that's not ideal I don't recommend it.

Thanks for noticing the protein PR! I find it's getting routine to get close to 600g or more each day. Just have to keep up with whatever red meat is on sale LOL.

 

[LevButlerov]

Ah yes planks! Good call. I just ordered a roller wheel I find that hits my core hard AF... try and go all the way down and back up and repeat while watching a Dateline or something.

Ab wheel be careful dont overextend on it

I used to run my pins under hot water and warm them up but haven't in years. Next time I run tren (probably not for a while) I will definitely do that.
I rotate my sites big time. Glutes, quads, lats, delts mainly. I've even experimented with doing tricep, calves and pecs but that's not ideal I don't recommend it.

I would say if you can micro dose like 20mgs ed with tren very few sides.

Thanks for noticing the protein PR! I find it's getting routine to get close to 600g or more each day. Just have to keep up with whatever red meat is on sale LOL.

You're next level no kidding, true protein king @HarleyGuy

 

[HarleyGuy]

Update as I sit waiting to give bloods.

The only thing I got charged extra for was SHBG for $55CDN. Everything else even prolactin, cystatin-C, free and total T, E2, and all other markers are all covered in Ontario

Will update the Canadian bloods thread too.

 

[HarleyGuy]

Almost all blood results are already in! Still waiting on SHGB and Cystatin-C and Free T. I'm kinda shocked at how not bad my bloods are. Last time my cholesterol was way worse and this time I'm like almost double the dose of everything along with extra compounds.

This is the first time my E2 has come back just bit outside the high range so I'm thinking the @LevButlerov special recipe for my gyno will help with that for sure. Prolactin with me is always in range it seems. Total T is "immeasurable" they don't go higher than 55 nmol/L at this lab.

Thoughts on my bloods mid blast? Date is top right, blood literally drawn today.

 

[LevButlerov]

Update as I sit waiting to give bloods.

The only thing I got charged extra for was SHBG for $55CDN. Everything else even prolactin, cystatin-C, free and total T, E2, and all other markers are all covered in Ontario

Will update the Canadian bloods thread too.

This is a good deal

Almost all blood results are already in! Still waiting on SHGB and Cystatin-C and Free T. I'm kinda shocked at how not bad my bloods are. Last time my cholesterol was way worse and this time I'm like almost double the dose of everything along with extra compounds.

This is the first time my E2 has come back just bit outside the high range so I'm thinking the @LevButlerov special recipe for my gyno will help with that for sure. Prolactin with me is always in range it seems. Total T is "immeasurable" they don't go higher than 55 nmol/L at this lab.

Thoughts on my bloods mid blast? The pics aren't showing my end can you guys see them?

are already in? can you post the blood tests here please? @HarleyGuy try to upload them again nothing showed.

 

[HarleyGuy]

This is a good deal

are already in? can you post the blood tests here please? @HarleyGuy try to upload them again nothing showed.

I resaved them as a .jpg and edited the post, scroll up. But nonetheless here they are again. Super interested in your feedback and any mod with knowledge on this. The only thing I'm a little concerned about is the body's ability to bounce back from the cholesterol ratio which yet again mine is horrible. Last time it was a 10+ now it's not as bad but this is expected. Personally I don't think it's as big a deal as Family Doctors make of it.

 

[LevButlerov]

I resaved them as a .jpg and edited the post, scroll up. But nonetheless here they are again. Super interested in your feedback and any mod with knowledge on this. The only thing I'm a little concerned about is the body's ability to bounce back from the cholesterol ratio which yet again mine is horrible. Last time it was a 10+ now it's not as bad but this is expected. Personally I don't think it's as big a deal as Family Doctors make of it.

So far what you posted is not bad at all considering the cycle
I would NOT worry about cholesterol or triglycerides, you're a bodybuilder and athlete not a grandmother. Those numbers will level out as we move into a cut at some point. @HarleyGuy

 

[HarleyGuy]

So far what you posted is not bad at all considering the cycle
I would NOT worry about cholesterol or triglycerides, you're a bodybuilder and athlete not a grandmother. Those numbers will level out as we move into a cut at some point. @HarleyGuy

Love it! That was my thoughts exactly. And honestly I don't even mind that my estrogen is top range and bit above it.

I'm about to start your gyno protocol though so it will get taken care of.

 

[LevButlerov]

Love it! That was my thoughts exactly. And honestly I don't even mind that my estrogen is top range and bit above it.

I'm about to start your gyno protocol though so it will get taken care of.

Lets wait for the full bloods on e2 before we start anti-gyno protocol

 

[BeMe]

@Fusion Canada Touchdown!

Hey... in everyone's expert opinion (I'm hearing big talk about major shortages coming even more now) what is best to stock up on now? I have an Rx for TestE but I'm thinking stock up on the staples? I'm open to advice on this.

I'm gonna lay off the tren after this blast but I'm thinking EQ runs so well with TestE and Anavar I could cruise on that indefinitely and stock up? Those who know more about the raws coming in might be able to chime in.

The major issues are effecting mast and primo worldwide. EQ is the alternative to running those two so it's probably going to be in high demand going forward. Hard to say what will happen form sure tho..no one really knows that.

But what is for sure is no primo and no mast cuz 5 of the big labs in China that produce the raws got shut down by the CCP. They're gonna reopen but I can't remember the date. If they do get running again I heard I will be like a year before we see any here.

 

[stevesmi]

I resaved them as a .jpg and edited the post, scroll up. But nonetheless here they are again. Super interested in your feedback and any mod with knowledge on this. The only thing I'm a little concerned about is the body's ability to bounce back from the cholesterol ratio which yet again mine is horrible. Last time it was a 10+ now it's not as bad but this is expected. Personally I don't think it's as big a deal as Family Doctors make of it.

are you dealing with any sicknesses right now? some of your #'s are off and indicating that

 

[BodyMonster34]

I resaved them as a .jpg and edited the post, scroll up. But nonetheless here they are again. Super interested in your feedback and any mod with knowledge on this. The only thing I'm a little concerned about is the body's ability to bounce back from the cholesterol ratio which yet again mine is horrible. Last time it was a 10+ now it's not as bad but this is expected. Personally I don't think it's as big a deal as Family Doctors make of it.

bro @HarleyGuy You should see my blood work. It blows yours away. I got way more stuff out of whack.

 

[HarleyGuy]

are you dealing with any sicknesses right now? some of your #'s are off and indicating that

No I feel fine at the moment but I was wondering about that too. Did you mean my neutrophils and lymphocites? I was surprised to see my platelet count so low too.

One thing I forgot to mention is I vape. Just nicotine never weed, but I vape nonetheless.

 

[HarleyGuy]

bro @HarleyGuy You should see my blood work. It blows yours away. I got way more stuff out of whack.

And you generally feel fine, no side effects? @BodyMonster34 I can't put my finger on it but almost every one of your posts makes me laugh, you're fuckin funny bro and real, and a tren fiend!

 

[HarleyGuy]

Log Update today 29Aug2025


Protein: 593 grams today!
**NEW** Raw Organic Apple Cider Vinegar with mother: 2 tbsp before each meal

Training today:

Training got fucked up today, was in my 4th set of squats and got a call from my son and had to leave.
I feel like my diet is in check but my training is taking a back seat and I'm wasting all this gear. I suppose the body still puts on mass on this cycle with less lifting but starting next week I wanna get in there every day! I'm kinda getting down on myself for not getting in there as much as I should. @LevButlerov @BeMe. Do you make a set time and you just go? I wanna tell the wife that I need 1.5 hours a day, half hour for travel and an hour workout and that's my time.


Diet: 2MAD TODAY


Meal # 1 (Protein shake and 500g egg whites with 6 whole eggs):

Protein shake (upon waking)
Whey 3-scoops = 450 cals 75g P 9g C 9g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen Peptide Protein 1 scoop same size as the whey 68 cals 17g P
Creatine 20g
1 cup blueberries
4 tbsp cinnamon
vanilla extract

838 cals
152 P
15g F
21g C

500g egg whites (whole carton) + 6 whole eggs:
790 cals
95 P
45 F
3 C

Meal #1 Total:
1628 cals
247 P
60 F
24 C


Meal # 2 (about 0.88kg=2lbs of flank steak + full pound ground hamburger **see pics**):

0.88kg flank **see pics**:
2437 cals
250 P
150 F
0 C

1 pound of lean ground hamburger **see pics**:
644 cals
96 P
24 F
0 C

Meal #2 Total:
3082 cals
346 P
174 F
0 C


Total today 23Aug2025:
4709 cals
593g Protein
324g Fat
24g Carbs


Peptides today:
GLOW (70mg total per vial - GHK 50mg/TB 10mg/BPC 10mg) @ 1.25mg/250mcg/250mcg twice daily AM and PM
Jeotropin HGH 3iu @ night fasted
MK677 20mg right before bed
**new** Melanotan2 - about 3-4 hours after stand up tanning

Supps today (added Apple Cider Vinegar):
Digest Gold 2 caps before each meal (I usually take what the bottle says and double it LOL)
NAC 1600mg
Biotin 10mg (10,000 mcg) x 3 = 30mg biotin (thin hair lol) **upped this to 30mg**
Berberine 1000mg (with every meal)
Milk Thistle 3 pills providing 450mg of silymarin
Mutant multi vitamin x 2 (one with meal# 1 and meal #2)
Creatine 20g with protein shake
Psyllium husk 30g (15g before each meal)
Ubiquinol 100mg
Organic Raw Apple Cider Vinegar with mother 4 tbsp (2 tbsp before each meal)


GEAR today:
Nothing pinned today

Orals: 20mg dbol **will be switching to anavar soon**

Breakdown of Weekly cycle:
800mg TestE
200mg TestP (equals 1g Test in the form of my own "Sust" blend)
300mg Deca
200mg TrenA
200mg MastP
100mg DHB
oral: 140mg dbol

Total weekly gear breakdown:
1.14g T
500mg 19-Nor
300mg DHT

Questions:
- I bet most people get down on themselves for their diet not being in check, mine is just the way I want it and I have zero problems force feeding and love the supps too that help it digest. But, does anyone ever get down on themselves for missing the gym too many times?

 

[Mobster]

There's some irony with bad numbers.

1) We KNOW they might be bad on cycle then fret when they are lol
2) We do cardio, lift and eat clean - all MUCH more than most people for whom having bad numbers WOULD be an issue

 

[stevesmi]

No I feel fine at the moment but I was wondering about that too. Did you mean my neutrophils and lymphocites? I was surprised to see my platelet count so low too.

One thing I forgot to mention is I vape. Just nicotine never weed, but I vape nonetheless.

Vaping is not good for you. There are tons of chemicals you are inhaling. Plus it’s a waste of money. You can quit and improve your health that is a goal to put forth

 

[2Thick]

Log Update today 29Aug2025


Protein: 593 grams today!
**NEW** Raw Organic Apple Cider Vinegar with mother: 2 tbsp before each meal

Training today:

Training got fucked up today, was in my 4th set of squats and got a call from my son and had to leave.
I feel like my diet is in check but my training is taking a back seat and I'm wasting all this gear. I suppose the body still puts on mass on this cycle with less lifting but starting next week I wanna get in there every day! I'm kinda getting down on myself for not getting in there as much as I should. @LevButlerov @BeMe. Do you make a set time and you just go? I wanna tell the wife that I need 1.5 hours a day, half hour for travel and an hour workout and that's my time.


Diet: 2MAD TODAY


Meal # 1 (Protein shake and 500g egg whites with 6 whole eggs):

Protein shake (upon waking)
Whey 3-scoops = 450 cals 75g P 9g C 9g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen Peptide Protein 1 scoop same size as the whey 68 cals 17g P
Creatine 20g
1 cup blueberries
4 tbsp cinnamon
vanilla extract

838 cals
152 P
15g F
21g C

500g egg whites (whole carton) + 6 whole eggs:
790 cals
95 P
45 F
3 C

Meal #1 Total:
1628 cals
247 P
60 F
24 C


Meal # 2 (about 0.88kg=2lbs of flank steak + full pound ground hamburger **see pics**):

0.88kg flank **see pics**:
2437 cals
250 P
150 F
0 C

1 pound of lean ground hamburger **see pics**:
644 cals
96 P
24 F
0 C

Meal #2 Total:
3082 cals
346 P
174 F
0 C


Total today 23Aug2025:
4709 cals
593g Protein
324g Fat
24g Carbs


Peptides today:
GLOW (70mg total per vial - GHK 50mg/TB 10mg/BPC 10mg) @ 1.25mg/250mcg/250mcg twice daily AM and PM
Jeotropin HGH 3iu @ night fasted
MK677 20mg right before bed
**new** Melanotan2 - about 3-4 hours after stand up tanning

Supps today (added Apple Cider Vinegar):
Digest Gold 2 caps before each meal (I usually take what the bottle says and double it LOL)
NAC 1600mg
Biotin 10mg (10,000 mcg) x 3 = 30mg biotin (thin hair lol) **upped this to 30mg**
Berberine 1000mg (with every meal)
Milk Thistle 3 pills providing 450mg of silymarin
Mutant multi vitamin x 2 (one with meal# 1 and meal #2)
Creatine 20g with protein shake
Psyllium husk 30g (15g before each meal)
Ubiquinol 100mg
Organic Raw Apple Cider Vinegar with mother 4 tbsp (2 tbsp before each meal)


GEAR today:
Nothing pinned today

Orals: 20mg dbol **will be switching to anavar soon**

Breakdown of Weekly cycle:
800mg TestE
200mg TestP (equals 1g Test in the form of my own "Sust" blend)
300mg Deca
200mg TrenA
200mg MastP
100mg DHB
oral: 140mg dbol

Total weekly gear breakdown:
1.14g T
500mg 19-Nor
300mg DHT

Questions:
- I bet most people get down on themselves for their diet not being in check, mine is just the way I want it and I have zero problems force feeding and love the supps too that help it digest. But, does anyone ever get down on themselves for missing the gym too many times?

i don't miss gym time. even on days i don't feel like going. it also helps i pay a monthly membership so don't want to waste that lol @HarleyGuy

 

[Ulter]

I resaved them as a .jpg and edited the post, scroll up. But nonetheless here they are again. Super interested in your feedback and any mod with knowledge on this. The only thing I'm a little concerned about is the body's ability to bounce back from the cholesterol ratio which yet again mine is horrible. Last time it was a 10+ now it's not as bad but this is expected. Personally I don't think it's as big a deal as Family Doctors make of it.

you won't get your cholesterol on point unless you really dial in your diet, and ease off on the gear @HarleyGuy trust me i tried everything. also get on support supplements like tudca and nac

 

[ceo]

I resaved them as a .jpg and edited the post, scroll up. But nonetheless here they are again. Super interested in your feedback and any mod with knowledge on this. The only thing I'm a little concerned about is the body's ability to bounce back from the cholesterol ratio which yet again mine is horrible. Last time it was a 10+ now it's not as bad but this is expected. Personally I don't think it's as big a deal as Family Doctors make of it.

bros if numbers are off you should see a specialist. sometimes also bloods can be off if you dealing with some issues in short term. maybe do more testing if you worried @HarleyGuy

 

[ROIDDERS]

I resaved them as a .jpg and edited the post, scroll up. But nonetheless here they are again. Super interested in your feedback and any mod with knowledge on this. The only thing I'm a little concerned about is the body's ability to bounce back from the cholesterol ratio which yet again mine is horrible. Last time it was a 10+ now it's not as bad but this is expected. Personally I don't think it's as big a deal as Family Doctors make of it.

@HarleyGuy at the end of the day, I would consult with a doctor. Some of the numbers that are off are non-hormonal, that would be concerning.

 

[HarleyGuy]

At gym… after my injury when I started the log I could only do 30 on the pin. Now it’s at 110. I’ll be back to doing the whole rack again in no time.

 

[HarleyGuy]

Finally hit 200lbs this morning. Pre-workout pic. Definitely feel the 5 lbs I’ve put on and glad it’s happened slowly.

Was feeling shitty about missing some workouts so had a doozy of a sesh today! Will post in log update later.

 

[LevButlerov]

At gym… after my injury when I started the log I could only do 30 on the pin. Now it’s at 110. I’ll be back to doing the whole rack again in no time.

Working your way up, impressive @HarleyGuy

Finally hit 200lbs this morning. Pre-workout pic. Definitely feel the 5 lbs I’ve put on and glad it’s happened slowly.

Was feeling shitty about missing some workouts so had a doozy of a sesh today! Will post in log update later.

wow 200lbs you look good, big shoulders big arms, wide and thick

 

[stevesmi]

Finally hit 200lbs this morning. Pre-workout pic. Definitely feel the 5 lbs I’ve put on and glad it’s happened slowly.

Was feeling shitty about missing some workouts so had a doozy of a sesh today! Will post in log update later.

@HarleyGuy 200lbs is good! pre workout picture is on point. nice job improving your strength post injury that is awesome