Veteran Log Sustanon Trenomast Deca Dbol Cycle Journal

[HarleyGuy]

Log Update today: 10Oct2025

• Total protein today: 525 grams today!
• 211 lbs today still gaining! BF same
• Not missing workouts just working more on EVO brothers than my own log for a bit.
• Strength intact and good to go
• One order touched down from @Fusion Canada and working on another now
• I went beast mode today on back and had the shirt soaked!
• When I got home threw my gym shirt on my girls legs just to get a rise out of her . Said this is a real mans post workout shirt and all I got was "Fucking EWWWWWW"
• Attempted a failed duplication of @BodyMonster34 's pic (see fail in pics) NF Touchdown in honor of BM34 (you'll love LOL!)

Training today:

Back:
Seated D-grip cable row
warmup for form and bloodflow
2 sets with pin at 110 x 10
2 sets with pin 120's x 9 (long rest before heavy)
1 set with pin at 130 x 10
1 set with pin at 130 x 8
1 set with pin at 130 x 7 (grip started to give here might start with wraps for the first time on this exercise)
1 set with pin at 100 to failure (got to about )

Bent over rows
no warmup
1 set with 80's x 10
1 set with 110's x 8
1 set with 110's x 5
1 set with 70's to failure

Traps:
Dumbbell shrugs with straps (gonna look for a new trap exercise this is getting stalled):
warmup form and bloodflow
2 sets with 80's x12
1 set with 90's x 10
1 set with 100's x 8
1 set with 120's x 8
1 set with 60's to eccentric failure


Calves
Standing calf raise machine
5 sets to failure with pin set near the bottom at its heaviest
Failure happens between 6-12 depending on the set

Core
Oblique
Lay on the big yoga ball with a 45lb plate and do a 180 back and forth

Crunches
4 sets each to failure with 25lb weight on chest




Diet: 2MAD TODAY **see pics**


Meal # 1 (Standard: Protein shake + diner steak and eggs with rye toast and tomatoes):

Protein shake (upon waking)
Whey 3-scoops = 450 cals 75g P 9g C 9g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen Peptide Protein 1 scoop same size as the whey 68 cals 17g P
Creatine 20g
1 cup blueberries
4 tbsp cinnamon
vanilla extract

838 cals
152 P
15g F
21g C

8oz top sirloin:
600 cals
60 P
60 F
0 C

2 whole eggs:
150 cals
13 P
13 F
0 C

2 slice rye toast:
165 cals
5 P
2 F
30 C

Meal #1 Total:
1753 cals
230 P
90 F
51 C


PREWORKOUT CARBS (**see pics**)
1 scoop Karbolyn - sitting well no bloat

200 cals
50 C


Meal # 2 (1.2 kg flank steak + 500g egg whites):

1.2kg flank steak
1750 cals
245 P
85 F
0 C

500g egg whites
218 cals
50 P
2 F
0 C

Meal #2 Total:
1968 cals
295 P
87F
0 C



Total macros today 10OCT2025 (Friday) including PreW carbs:
3921 cals
525g Protein
173g Fat
101g Carbs



Peptides today:
Jeotropin HGH 4iu @ night fasted
MK677 10mg right before bed


Supps today:
Digest Gold 2 caps before each meal
NAC 2000mg (1000mg with each meal)
Biotin 10mg (10,000 mcg) x 2 = 20mg biotin
Berberine 1000mg (with every meal)
Milk Thistle 3 pills providing 450mg of silymarin
Mutant multi vitamin x 2 (one with meal# 1 and meal #2)
Creatine 20g with protein shake
Psyllium husk 30g (15g before each meal)
Ubiquinol 200mg *upped this dose*
Organic Raw Apple Cider Vinegar with mother 2 tbsp (1 tbsp before each meal)
HCGenerate (3 caps with each meal - double this dose)
Taurine 6g in protein shake
Biopiperine 10mg


GEAR:

Rx TRT 150mg TestE (Delatestryl)


Ancillaries (gyno reduction protocol started 01Sep):

-Now at 10mg tamoxifen (Nolvadex) morning ED

 

[Allupfromhere]

Log Update today: 10Oct2025

• Total protein today: 525 grams today!
• 211 lbs today still gaining! BF same
• Not missing workouts just working more on EVO brothers than my own log for a bit.
• Strength intact and good to go
• One order touched down from @Fusion Canada and working on another now
• I went beast mode today on back and had the shirt soaked!
• When I got home threw my gym shirt on my girls legs just to get a rise out of her . Said this is a real mans post workout shirt and all I got was "Fucking EWWWWWW"
• Attempted a failed duplication of @BodyMonster34 's pic (see fail in pics) NF Touchdown in honor of BM34 (you'll love LOL!)

Training today:

Back:
Seated D-grip cable row
warmup for form and bloodflow
2 sets with pin at 110 x 10
2 sets with pin 120's x 9 (long rest before heavy)
1 set with pin at 130 x 10
1 set with pin at 130 x 8
1 set with pin at 130 x 7 (grip started to give here might start with wraps for the first time on this exercise)
1 set with pin at 100 to failure (got to about )

Bent over rows
no warmup
1 set with 80's x 10
1 set with 110's x 8
1 set with 110's x 5
1 set with 70's to failure

Traps:
Dumbbell shrugs with straps (gonna look for a new trap exercise this is getting stalled):
warmup form and bloodflow
2 sets with 80's x12
1 set with 90's x 10
1 set with 100's x 8
1 set with 120's x 8
1 set with 60's to eccentric failure


Calves
Standing calf raise machine
5 sets to failure with pin set near the bottom at its heaviest
Failure happens between 6-12 depending on the set

Core
Oblique
Lay on the big yoga ball with a 45lb plate and do a 180 back and forth

Crunches
4 sets each to failure with 25lb weight on chest




Diet: 2MAD TODAY **see pics**


Meal # 1 (Standard: Protein shake + diner steak and eggs with rye toast and tomatoes):

Protein shake (upon waking)
Whey 3-scoops = 450 cals 75g P 9g C 9g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen Peptide Protein 1 scoop same size as the whey 68 cals 17g P
Creatine 20g
1 cup blueberries
4 tbsp cinnamon
vanilla extract

838 cals
152 P
15g F
21g C

8oz top sirloin:
600 cals
60 P
60 F
0 C

2 whole eggs:
150 cals
13 P
13 F
0 C

2 slice rye toast:
165 cals
5 P
2 F
30 C

Meal #1 Total:
1753 cals
230 P
90 F
51 C


PREWORKOUT CARBS (**see pics**)
1 scoop Karbolyn - sitting well no bloat

200 cals
50 C


Meal # 2 (1.2 kg flank steak + 500g egg whites):

1.2kg flank steak
1750 cals
245 P
85 F
0 C

500g egg whites
218 cals
50 P
2 F
0 C

Meal #2 Total:
1968 cals
295 P
87F
0 C



Total macros today 10OCT2025 (Friday) including PreW carbs:
3921 cals
525g Protein
173g Fat
101g Carbs



Peptides today:
Jeotropin HGH 4iu @ night fasted
MK677 10mg right before bed


Supps today:
Digest Gold 2 caps before each meal
NAC 2000mg (1000mg with each meal)
Biotin 10mg (10,000 mcg) x 2 = 20mg biotin
Berberine 1000mg (with every meal)
Milk Thistle 3 pills providing 450mg of silymarin
Mutant multi vitamin x 2 (one with meal# 1 and meal #2)
Creatine 20g with protein shake
Psyllium husk 30g (15g before each meal)
Ubiquinol 200mg *upped this dose*
Organic Raw Apple Cider Vinegar with mother 2 tbsp (1 tbsp before each meal)
HCGenerate (3 caps with each meal - double this dose)
Taurine 6g in protein shake
Biopiperine 10mg


GEAR:

Rx TRT 150mg TestE (Delatestryl)


Ancillaries (gyno reduction protocol started 01Sep):

-Now at 10mg tamoxifen (Nolvadex) morning ED

Champions update right here, awesome detail brother !

 

[HarleyGuy]

Log Update Question:

Almost forgot... I couldn't find my BP machine I was using during my blast so I ran around and found my spare and happy to see this post cycle. It stayed in check the whole way too. Apple Watch says resting heart rate gets down to 50 at times and I'm content with 132/81 all day. Even so, I'm taking HCGenerate now and have N2Guard on the way and want to stack them. Is there anything else I can add for BP health? I have ALA on the way as well.

Also, I'm open to suggestions for cholesterol HDL/LDL health other than the krill oil and other supps in my log I'm currently taking. I wanna throw the kitchen sink into my supp use and I'm also donating blood next week as well to get my bloods in check by the end of the year.

@LevButlerov or any other supp gurus out there can chime in.

 

[HarleyGuy]

Late log update question # 2:

Has anyone ever discussed, or experimented with, or is their a podcast on alternating orals during cycle? Like Anadrol on training days and another oral on off days or just simply one oral one day and another oral the next and so on? Or even dbol one day tbol the next, etc. I'm brainstorming here with some exotic ideas can you tell I'm already thinking of January and my next cycle LOL. Wanna know what to hoard before the world gets nuked LOL.

 

[BeMe]

Omfg I fuckin KNEW you'd call me on that! I can't help myself I like to have one of everything on hand just in case I go into a berzerker mode. I've got 3 NPP's so I'm good on that. Let's call them mini-blasts then LOL. Compared to the last one I think all of them would be anyway. I think I can hold out on TRT until early winter and new year and then if my bloods and cholesterol are in check I'll end up having to do something. Post 50-years old I will keep to my word and keep it under 1g total I pinky swear!

I can't be the only one who was thinking that lol. Lots of us listened to your podcast.

Ok 50 it is hahaha. Or 51? How bout a round nice round number, 52 lol.

It's the classic never say never situation. Its life bro, just gotta roll with it. I always kinda thought just let your bloodwork and feeling determine what you do and when you stop. Just gotta follow your gut bro

 

[toddthelineman]

can't be the only one who was thinking that

Sure ain’t hahaha. Now I want to do it

 

[HarleyGuy]

I can't be the only one who was thinking that lol. Lots of us listened to your podcast.

Ok 50 it is hahaha. Or 51? How bout a round nice round number, 52 lol.

It's the classic never say never situation. Its life bro, just gotta roll with it. I always kinda thought just let your bloodwork and feeling determine what you do and when you stop. Just gotta follow your gut bro

53 is a prime number so we'll say when I'm 53 I'll be in my prime then and can stop LOL!

I'll never blast 2g again that I do know. What I wasn't on the fence about was going out with a bang and running something that was ridiculous at 2g total just to see and say I have. I'm not done blasting that's for sure just have no desire to go over 1g total.

 

[HarleyGuy]

Sure ain’t hahaha. Now I want to do it

You would look insane on a cycle I can't even imagine. You already have the look of pure density like tungsten.

 

[toddthelineman]

You would look insane on a cycle I can't even imagine. You already have the look of pure density like tungsten.

We’re about to see what a 700mg total looks like on me, maybe more if you count the proviron and if that will let me run deca without feeling like shit.

 

[BeMe]

53 is a prime number so we'll say when I'm 53 I'll be in my prime then and can stop LOL!

I'll never blast 2g again that I do know. What I wasn't on the fence about was going out with a bang and running something that was ridiculous at 2g total just to see and say I have. I'm not done blasting that's for sure just have no desire to go over 1g total.

Prime number lol!!! Who's the smart one now @HarleyGuy

 

[HarleyGuy]

Prime number lol!!! Who's the smart one now @HarleyGuy

Haha remember my adrenaline addict ass was doing my M.Sc in Math/Physics when I abandoned it and joined the police force instead. I'm not smart anymore though I halved my IQ with second crack vapour and lots of Jack Daniels and blow.

 

[BeMe]

Haha remember my adrenaline addict ass was doing my M.Sc in Math/Physics when I abandoned it and joined the police force instead. I'm not smart anymore though I halved my IQ with second crack vapour and lots of Jack Daniels and blow.

Not a prob when you're starting off at such a high level

 

[LevButlerov]

I'm literally typing a log update, answering DM's, and commenting on followed logs while I write up another proton order to @Fusion Canada as we speak. I'm approaching Lev speed on EVO but I can't maintain it.... must.... hang.... on.

you are lightning speed our EVO brother

 

[HarleyGuy]

you are lightning speed our EVO brother

New order placed to @Fusion Canada. Touchdown pics next week!

 

[LevButlerov]

Log Update today: 10Oct2025

• Total protein today: 525 grams today!
• 211 lbs today still gaining! BF same
• Not missing workouts just working more on EVO brothers than my own log for a bit.
• Strength intact and good to go
• One order touched down from @Fusion Canada and working on another now
• I went beast mode today on back and had the shirt soaked!
• When I got home threw my gym shirt on my girls legs just to get a rise out of her . Said this is a real mans post workout shirt and all I got was "Fucking EWWWWWW"
• Attempted a failed duplication of @BodyMonster34 's pic (see fail in pics) NF Touchdown in honor of BM34 (you'll love LOL!)

Training today:

Back:
Seated D-grip cable row
warmup for form and bloodflow
2 sets with pin at 110 x 10
2 sets with pin 120's x 9 (long rest before heavy)
1 set with pin at 130 x 10
1 set with pin at 130 x 8
1 set with pin at 130 x 7 (grip started to give here might start with wraps for the first time on this exercise)
1 set with pin at 100 to failure (got to about )

Bent over rows
no warmup
1 set with 80's x 10
1 set with 110's x 8
1 set with 110's x 5
1 set with 70's to failure

Traps:
Dumbbell shrugs with straps (gonna look for a new trap exercise this is getting stalled):
warmup form and bloodflow
2 sets with 80's x12
1 set with 90's x 10
1 set with 100's x 8
1 set with 120's x 8
1 set with 60's to eccentric failure


Calves
Standing calf raise machine
5 sets to failure with pin set near the bottom at its heaviest
Failure happens between 6-12 depending on the set

Core
Oblique
Lay on the big yoga ball with a 45lb plate and do a 180 back and forth

Crunches
4 sets each to failure with 25lb weight on chest




Diet: 2MAD TODAY **see pics**


Meal # 1 (Standard: Protein shake + diner steak and eggs with rye toast and tomatoes):

Protein shake (upon waking)
Whey 3-scoops = 450 cals 75g P 9g C 9g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen Peptide Protein 1 scoop same size as the whey 68 cals 17g P
Creatine 20g
1 cup blueberries
4 tbsp cinnamon
vanilla extract

838 cals
152 P
15g F
21g C

8oz top sirloin:
600 cals
60 P
60 F
0 C

2 whole eggs:
150 cals
13 P
13 F
0 C

2 slice rye toast:
165 cals
5 P
2 F
30 C

Meal #1 Total:
1753 cals
230 P
90 F
51 C


PREWORKOUT CARBS (**see pics**)
1 scoop Karbolyn - sitting well no bloat

200 cals
50 C


Meal # 2 (1.2 kg flank steak + 500g egg whites):

1.2kg flank steak
1750 cals
245 P
85 F
0 C

500g egg whites
218 cals
50 P
2 F
0 C

Meal #2 Total:
1968 cals
295 P
87F
0 C



Total macros today 10OCT2025 (Friday) including PreW carbs:
3921 cals
525g Protein
173g Fat
101g Carbs



Peptides today:
Jeotropin HGH 4iu @ night fasted
MK677 10mg right before bed


Supps today:
Digest Gold 2 caps before each meal
NAC 2000mg (1000mg with each meal)
Biotin 10mg (10,000 mcg) x 2 = 20mg biotin
Berberine 1000mg (with every meal)
Milk Thistle 3 pills providing 450mg of silymarin
Mutant multi vitamin x 2 (one with meal# 1 and meal #2)
Creatine 20g with protein shake
Psyllium husk 30g (15g before each meal)
Ubiquinol 200mg *upped this dose*
Organic Raw Apple Cider Vinegar with mother 2 tbsp (1 tbsp before each meal)
HCGenerate (3 caps with each meal - double this dose)
Taurine 6g in protein shake
Biopiperine 10mg


GEAR:

Rx TRT 150mg TestE (Delatestryl)


Ancillaries (gyno reduction protocol started 01Sep):

-Now at 10mg tamoxifen (Nolvadex) morning ED

That’s a monster back session with great row volume and smart use of rest-pause. The trap and calf work rounds it out perfectly, and the new grip plan with straps should help but work on more reps without the straps too.

Diet is on point true PROTEIN KING style, 525 g is beast level! Macros are clean, and those two dense meals fit the 2MAD setup well. Keep that consistency with tamoxifen taper and GH combo, your physique will keep tightening up while you grow. I think we need to start cutting tamoxifen to 5mgs, start please. @HarleyGuy

 

[LevButlerov]

Almost forgot... I couldn't find my BP machine I was using during my blast so I ran around and found my spare and happy to see this post cycle. It stayed in check the whole way too. Apple Watch says resting heart rate gets down to 50 at times and I'm content with 132/81 all day. Even so, I'm taking HCGenerate now and have N2Guard on the way and want to stack them. Is there anything else I can add for BP health? I have ALA on the way as well.

N2Guard already covers most BP support with taurine, hawthorn, potassium, and CoQ10, so you don’t really need more. The only additions worth considering would be telmisartan low-dose if pressure starts to creep up, but otherwise N2Guard is doing the job fine. I see your reading imo you don't need it. @HarleyGuy

Also, I'm open to suggestions for cholesterol HDL/LDL health other than the krill oil and other supps in my log I'm currently taking. I wanna throw the kitchen sink into my supp use and I'm also donating blood next week as well to get my bloods in check by the end of the year.

You’re already covering a lot with krill oil. Add 500–1000 mg niacin nightly to bump HDL to start.

The blood donation will help hematocrit and overall blood viscosity, so keep that routine in. With those tweaks, your lipid profile should tighten up fast. and I wouldn't worry about lipids or cholesterol in general, you a bodybuilder not a grandmother lol

Late log update question # 2:

Has anyone ever discussed, or experimented with, or is their a podcast on alternating orals during cycle? Like Anadrol on training days and another oral on off days or just simply one oral one day and another oral the next and so on? Or even dbol one day tbol the next, etc. I'm brainstorming here with some exotic ideas can you tell I'm already thinking of January and my next cycle LOL. Wanna know what to hoard before the world gets nuked LOL.

Alternating orals like dbol and tbol or anadrol and tbol sounds creative but it’s not very effective since each has a different receptor affinity and half-life. You’ll just get fluctuating hormone levels, more liver strain, and no added benefit compared to running one compound steady for 4–6 weeks.

If you want variety, better to run 1 oral at a time and switch mid-cycle. Consistency builds more predictable strength and muscle response without the rollercoaster side effects IMO

 

[HarleyGuy]

I think we need to start cutting tamoxifen to 5mgs, start please. @HarleyGuy

Roger that. Starting 5mg first thing tomorrow morning.

 

[HarleyGuy]

Add 500–1000 mg niacin nightly to bump HDL to start.

On it. Just ordered it off Amazon.
N2Guard is in the mail and still taking 3-5 caps of HCGenerate ED. There's a podcast about stacking these so I'm gonna look into doing that on TRT if that's necessary? I like the idea of stacking those two whether blasting or on TRT.

 

[HarleyGuy]

Alternating orals like dbol and tbol or anadrol and tbol sounds creative but it’s not very effective since each has a different receptor affinity and half-life. You’ll just get fluctuating hormone levels, more liver strain, and no added benefit compared to running one compound steady for 4–6 weeks.

If you want variety, better to run 1 oral at a time and switch mid-cycle. Consistency builds more predictable strength and muscle response without the rollercoaster side effects IMO

Thanks I've always wondered about this and that makes a lot of sense with the receptor affinity and half lives too!

 

[LevButlerov]

Roger that. Starting 5mg first thing tomorrow morning.

lets do it and start planning for a taper off.

 

[LevButlerov]

On it. Just ordered it off Amazon.
N2Guard is in the mail and still taking 3-5 caps of HCGenerate ED. There's a podcast about stacking these so I'm gonna look into doing that on TRT if that's necessary? I like the idea of stacking those two whether blasting or on TRT.

I don't remember a podcast on it and I listen to all (but could be wrong been so many years). @HarleyGuy
Niacin raises HDL and lowers LDL by slowing liver cholesterol production and improving lipid clearance. Though that's better said in studies as always right.
Even with HCGenerate and N2Guard in your stack, niacin still helps because those mainly support liver and organ health, not directly alter lipid ratios.

Start with 100 to 200 mg niacin daily with food and pyramid up slowly to avoid flushing. I am adding this since I said 500-1000 but thats max out dose wanted to clarify.

You’re already covering a lot with krill oil. Add 500–1000 mg niacin nightly to bump HDL to start.

 

[HarleyGuy]

Start with 100 to 200 mg niacin daily with food and pyramid up slowly to avoid flushing. I am adding this since I said 500-1000 but thats max out dose wanted to clarify.

Here's what I just ordered. Should I cancel it or just hit the 500mg. That's usually the way I roll anyway LOL

 

[HarleyGuy]

lets do it and start planning for a taper off.

Deal!

 

[HarleyGuy]

I don't remember a podcast on it and I listen to all (but could be wrong been so many years).

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@HarleyGuy you can stack n2guard and hcgenerate. they are both great to use whenver you want. just don't use the n2guard an hour within your oral steroids

 

[HarleyGuy]

@HarleyGuy you can stack n2guard and hcgenerate. they are both great to use whenver you want. just don't use the n2guard an hour within your oral steroids

This is really great to know thank you!

Assuming the N2Guard and HCGenerate can be taken same time together. What I'll do is just take them all in the morning. I can swallow about 30 pills at a time if I have a full gatorade zero LOL

 

[stevesmi]

This is really great to know thank you!

Assuming the N2Guard and HCGenerate can be taken same time together. What I'll do is just take them all in the morning. I can swallow about 30 pills at a time if I have a full gatorade zero LOL

you can take them around the same time sure.

 

[HarleyGuy]

@LevButlerov I'll cancel the niacin I ordered (see above) if I should order tabs tabs that are less of a dose. See pics.

I usually tolerate doses of anything really well and am willing to start on 500mg if that isn't unsafe.

 

[ceo]

This is really great to know thank you!

Assuming the N2Guard and HCGenerate can be taken same time together. What I'll do is just take them all in the morning. I can swallow about 30 pills at a time if I have a full gatorade zero LOL

bros reason you don't want to take n2guard within 1 hour of oral steroids is they interact. n2guard got supps to absorb too much. can throw off dosing of orals @HarleyGuy

 

[ROIDDERS]

Log Update today: 10Oct2025

• Total protein today: 525 grams today!
• 211 lbs today still gaining! BF same
• Not missing workouts just working more on EVO brothers than my own log for a bit.
• Strength intact and good to go
• One order touched down from @Fusion Canada and working on another now
• I went beast mode today on back and had the shirt soaked!
• When I got home threw my gym shirt on my girls legs just to get a rise out of her . Said this is a real mans post workout shirt and all I got was "Fucking EWWWWWW"
• Attempted a failed duplication of @BodyMonster34 's pic (see fail in pics) NF Touchdown in honor of BM34 (you'll love LOL!)

Training today:

Back:
Seated D-grip cable row
warmup for form and bloodflow
2 sets with pin at 110 x 10
2 sets with pin 120's x 9 (long rest before heavy)
1 set with pin at 130 x 10
1 set with pin at 130 x 8
1 set with pin at 130 x 7 (grip started to give here might start with wraps for the first time on this exercise)
1 set with pin at 100 to failure (got to about )

Bent over rows
no warmup
1 set with 80's x 10
1 set with 110's x 8
1 set with 110's x 5
1 set with 70's to failure

Traps:
Dumbbell shrugs with straps (gonna look for a new trap exercise this is getting stalled):
warmup form and bloodflow
2 sets with 80's x12
1 set with 90's x 10
1 set with 100's x 8
1 set with 120's x 8
1 set with 60's to eccentric failure


Calves
Standing calf raise machine
5 sets to failure with pin set near the bottom at its heaviest
Failure happens between 6-12 depending on the set

Core
Oblique
Lay on the big yoga ball with a 45lb plate and do a 180 back and forth

Crunches
4 sets each to failure with 25lb weight on chest




Diet: 2MAD TODAY **see pics**


Meal # 1 (Standard: Protein shake + diner steak and eggs with rye toast and tomatoes):

Protein shake (upon waking)
Whey 3-scoops = 450 cals 75g P 9g C 9g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen Peptide Protein 1 scoop same size as the whey 68 cals 17g P
Creatine 20g
1 cup blueberries
4 tbsp cinnamon
vanilla extract

838 cals
152 P
15g F
21g C

8oz top sirloin:
600 cals
60 P
60 F
0 C

2 whole eggs:
150 cals
13 P
13 F
0 C

2 slice rye toast:
165 cals
5 P
2 F
30 C

Meal #1 Total:
1753 cals
230 P
90 F
51 C


PREWORKOUT CARBS (**see pics**)
1 scoop Karbolyn - sitting well no bloat

200 cals
50 C


Meal # 2 (1.2 kg flank steak + 500g egg whites):

1.2kg flank steak
1750 cals
245 P
85 F
0 C

500g egg whites
218 cals
50 P
2 F
0 C

Meal #2 Total:
1968 cals
295 P
87F
0 C



Total macros today 10OCT2025 (Friday) including PreW carbs:
3921 cals
525g Protein
173g Fat
101g Carbs



Peptides today:
Jeotropin HGH 4iu @ night fasted
MK677 10mg right before bed


Supps today:
Digest Gold 2 caps before each meal
NAC 2000mg (1000mg with each meal)
Biotin 10mg (10,000 mcg) x 2 = 20mg biotin
Berberine 1000mg (with every meal)
Milk Thistle 3 pills providing 450mg of silymarin
Mutant multi vitamin x 2 (one with meal# 1 and meal #2)
Creatine 20g with protein shake
Psyllium husk 30g (15g before each meal)
Ubiquinol 200mg *upped this dose*
Organic Raw Apple Cider Vinegar with mother 2 tbsp (1 tbsp before each meal)
HCGenerate (3 caps with each meal - double this dose)
Taurine 6g in protein shake
Biopiperine 10mg


GEAR:

Rx TRT 150mg TestE (Delatestryl)


Ancillaries (gyno reduction protocol started 01Sep):

-Now at 10mg tamoxifen (Nolvadex) morning ED

That is a heck of a supplement list. @HarleyGuy I'm surprised you take psyllium husk before each meal. Does it help you digest?

 

[HarleyGuy]

That is a heck of a supplement list. @HarleyGuy I'm surprised you take psyllium husk before each meal. Does it help you digest?

Big time bro! I've upped it to 20g before each meal. I'm 2MAD at 5-6000 calories and 600g protein most of which is red meat so now that I take that I'm regular like clockwork and I don't have that carnivore diet experience in the bathroom anymore haha. Anyone who starts carnivore the first month you are absolutely nuking the toilet every time you sit down LOL

I put the 20g psyllium in with 20g creatine, 9g taurine, 20g collagen peptide powder, add gatorade zero and swirl that shit around and pop 3 digest gold and slam it while it's still spinning and it all goes right down. Then take a swig of apple cider vinegar with mother and sit and pretend I'm at a food eating competition and get it all in (usually at least 1.5kg red meat) as fast as I can because if you go slow you'll just get bloated and feel full and won't wanna finish it.

 

[toddthelineman]

Anyone who starts carnivore the first month you are absolutely nuking the toilet every time you sit down LOL

Believe it or not, that wasn’t my experience. I was told not to trust a fart, but I did, on day three. I shit the bed! It was a hot one! Then I got it all out and it never happened again. I don’t think I even farted for like a year. Before that my guts were a wreck. Going carnivore exorcized the demon in my ass for good. Even to this day, I can get some digestive problems but it’s normal and manageable. Before, I was basically sick all the time.

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Here's what I just ordered. Should I cancel it or just hit the 500mg. That's usually the way I roll anyway LOL

500mgs won’t be a problem, you’re probably the most hardcore guy on EVO with food, I’m sure you can handle the dose easy

 

[Eddie Haskell]

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I listened to that episode back in the day, great info.

 

[HarleyGuy]

Believe it or not, that wasn’t my experience. I was told not to trust a fart, but I did, on day three. I shit the bed! It was a hot one! Then I got it all out and it never happened again. I don’t think I even farted for like a year. Before that my guts were a wreck. Going carnivore exorcized the demon in my ass for good. Even to this day, I can get some digestive problems but it’s normal and manageable. Before, I was basically sick all the time.

I'm the same with it now too. I had the carnivore runs for about 2 weeks and now I can pack away pounds and pounds and I'm completely fine and regular and feel great on it. I've heard of guys shitting the bed on carnivore and not only once LOL, your body adjusted well with only one bed shitting! Well done.

 

[Mobster]

Late log update question # 2:

Has anyone ever discussed, or experimented with, or is their a podcast on alternating orals during cycle? Like Anadrol on training days and another oral on off days or just simply one oral one day and another oral the next and so on? Or even dbol one day tbol the next, etc. I'm brainstorming here with some exotic ideas can you tell I'm already thinking of January and my next cycle LOL. Wanna know what to hoard before the world gets nuked LOL.

Not as such. We did do one where I suggested starting on one and finishing on another. It'll be an oral specific show

 

[waggat]

I'm the same with it now too. I had the carnivore runs for about 2 weeks and now I can pack away pounds and pounds and I'm completely fine and regular and feel great on it. I've heard of guys shitting the bed on carnivore and not only once LOL, your body adjusted well with only one bed shitting! Well done.

I thought you'd have the opposite problem switching to carnivore; being backed up.

 

[toddthelineman]

I thought you'd have the opposite problem switching to carnivore; being backed up.

Everyone thinks that. If you’re doing literally just meat and water, there’s nothing to back up. The meat liquefies in your stomach and one way or another your body uses all of it. When you poop it’s very little, and you can eat huge amounts of meat for years like this and the whole thing about red meat rotting in your colon is absolutely not true. Most people are not going full lion diet carnivore, and even I was at like 99% because I was eating a small amount of kratom. Even slight amounts of refined foods can throw off the adaptation and that was recorded over 100 years ago by Arctic explorers who were eating like arctic people to try to survive, they would find the ones who got sick were hiding food and sneaking it, instead of eating just fish and whale blubber etc

 

[Ulter]

Everyone thinks that. If you’re doing literally just meat and water, there’s nothing to back up. The meat liquefies in your stomach and one way or another your body uses all of it. When you poop it’s very little, and you can eat huge amounts of meat for years like this and the whole thing about red meat rotting in your colon is absolutely not true. Most people are not going full lion diet carnivore, and even I was at like 99% because I was eating a small amount of kratom. Even slight amounts of refined foods can throw off the adaptation and that was recorded over 100 years ago by Arctic explorers who were eating like arctic people to try to survive, they would find the ones who got sick were hiding food and sneaking it, instead of eating just fish and whale blubber etc

good points. i think it depends on each person. some people will do well on certain diets. i can't eat too much red meat in 1 sitting

 

[LevButlerov]

@LevButlerov I'll cancel the niacin I ordered (see above) if I should order tabs tabs that are less of a dose. See pics.

I usually tolerate doses of anything really well and am willing to start on 500mg if that isn't unsafe.

There is no real safety issue. You can start with 500mgs, but 100mgs/cap would be easier to control @HarleyGuy

 

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Good one actually

 

[LevButlerov]

Deal!

Lets do it

 

[LevButlerov]

Here's what I just ordered. Should I cancel it or just hit the 500mg. That's usually the way I roll anyway LOL

please check @HarleyGuy
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...t-deca-dbol-cycle-journal.105881/post-1853775

There is no real safety issue. You can start with 500mgs, but 100mgs/cap would be easier to control @HarleyGuy

 

[2Thick]

Everyone thinks that. If you’re doing literally just meat and water, there’s nothing to back up. The meat liquefies in your stomach and one way or another your body uses all of it. When you poop it’s very little, and you can eat huge amounts of meat for years like this and the whole thing about red meat rotting in your colon is absolutely not true. Most people are not going full lion diet carnivore, and even I was at like 99% because I was eating a small amount of kratom. Even slight amounts of refined foods can throw off the adaptation and that was recorded over 100 years ago by Arctic explorers who were eating like arctic people to try to survive, they would find the ones who got sick were hiding food and sneaking it, instead of eating just fish and whale blubber etc

@toddthelineman a lot of people can do well on carnivore. some people don't. perfect example of YMMV

 

[HarleyGuy]

please check @HarleyGuy
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...t-deca-dbol-cycle-journal.105881/post-1853775

Re-ordered the niacin 500mg... with my tolerance and caloric intake I'll just 'send it' baby. If I flush I'll just say I'm blushing.

 

[Allupfromhere]

My addiction story from 2012 til 2021.

Like all us addicts our stories are filled with wreckage and damage we've caused so I'll spare you the gory details and stick to the DOC's (drugs of choice) during what years they were and where I ended up and when I got sober. I'll use bullet points as my story spans almost a decade.

• Police Officer from 1999-2019 (20 years and was out)
• Used booze like any cop to unwind and overdid it often, no biggie, drank hard on days off and never when working
• Worked with our ERT = Emergency Response Team (in the US they call it SWAT or some variation) otherwise was a traffic cop, lots of pissed off motorists and gory ass blood and guts accidents
• Due to my level of callouts and what I did both on ERT and at car wrecks my head and mental state got all fucked up. I was pure adrenaline all the time and wired for speed. I had what's called Operator Syndrome (or some call it severe c-PTSD) which basically turns you into a powder keg of rage ready to explode at any time but makes you great at your job.
• In 2012 I was rear ended by a drunk driver and prescribed Percocets (oxycodone and tylenol). I fucking LOVED them and they helped the PTSD I didn't know I had. They didn't make me tired like most people they gave me energy and at the same time calmed my mind down. I had zero problems and felt at peace in my head. I was on them for as long as the doc would prescribe them until he got wind from my ex wife I was using the shit out of them. He cut my prescription off and I got withdrawals and sick as fuck so I started getting them from a buddy. Drained my bank account and took whatever was for sale, dilaudid, hydromorphone, oxycontin, fentanyl patches, anything to keep that "everything is fucking great" feeling and also not to feel like your hair hurts when the wind blows (the withdrawals are fucking awful). Was going to work and functioning on all this as it gave me energy and my mood was ever more alpha.
• Got caught due to finances and came clean. Police Force sent me to rehab in 2012 where I was told I was apparently an alcoholic and an addict. I thought they were full of shit but played the game. Went back to work and was on Suboxone (buprenorphine) which makes any pain pill not work. I was "cured" and made a go at no booze as well and did the whole AA thing too. Even worked the 12-step program but inside I hadn't accepted I was fucked and was just playing the game.
• Time went by and from 2012-2014 I started drinking again and convinced the ex that booze was never my problem.
• Meanwhile from 2012-2014 I had some of the craziest ERT calls ever. High speed no knock warrant breaches and shootings, went home like meh whatever and would drink a 12-pack and slam some liquor too, problem solved and a good day at work. Was in great shape looked like He-Man marvel character and had an ego that could fill the room. Mindset was another bad guy with a hole in the head fucking right I did good today. Not knowing this takes a toll on the mind.
• Early 2014 my non cop friends (who all did blow and I didn't care) crunched me out a line and I did one and loved that too (shocking). Oh but still, I wasn't no addict or alcoholic my job is stressful and I'm blowing off steam. Hence the cocaine addiction started for all of 2014. Got caught and ponied up that I was doing blow always while I drank and sent back to the same rehab. In rehab this time they said I also have severe PTSD. Got out knowing I "over do it" and told myself well I'm high fuckin speed I don't do anything half way and that's what makes me a good operator so I can control this and just stop.
• Right after getting out of rehab for addiction I get sent back for PTSD (same rehab again - an in house 8 week program and you don't get visits). So this was my 1st and 2nd bit in rehab.
• Late 2014 I attend my final call for duty (a bad one) and I go home and get fucked up on booze and cocaine for about a week and call in sick to work. Ex wife drives me to the nut house and I get admitted for 3-day involuntary custody for evaluation. I come being diagnosed with Alcohol use disorder, Cocaine use disorder, Opiate use disorder and severe c-PTSD and am given a doctors note to stay off work for 6 months until I've seen a Psychiatrist and properly assessed.
• Finally get in with a Psychiatrist and it goes bad (so I thought). He says I'm borderline psychotic and may be good at my job but I've been through too much and my brain has changed. MRI of my amygdala shows it's enlarged and I'm on constant fight or flight mode even while sober. Psychiatrist reaches out to Workmen's Comp saying I have a brain injury due to "multiple traumatic events over time" and am deemed unemployable and need rehabilitation for an indeterminate amount of time. In Canada it's called WSIB (workmen's comp in US)
• Divorced the ex who had had enough and met who I thought was the "love of my life" in 2015. I go back to rehab for a 3rd and 4th time for addiction and PTSD to show her I loved her (lol). My kids (I have 4) would visit on weekends and once during the week for dinner and then my two sons didn't wanna live with Mom so they moved in with me. Now I had a "real" reason to stay sober and didn't need AA anymore (addicts always think they got shit figured out themselves). My kids needed me and so did my 2nd wife's kids (my 3 stepkids at the time - her own 3 kids). In hindsight I know that trying to stay sober for your kids is a bullshit reason if you're a true addict and alcoholic it can only last so long.
• I was getting paid full pay and thought HAHA fuck you government I'm fine I get to workout and netflix and chill all day
• From From 2015-2017 I stay sober "for my kids" because they need me
• In 2018 (yes shocking I ride motorcycles) I join a biker club and have ONE beer with them. Off I went, from ONE beer
• That one beer led me to resenting my second wife and moving out with my two sons into a condo of our own.
• I rode with the club almost 24/7 and abandoned my two boys who had to move back in with my 2nd wife who I had left
• I got deep into drinking, using cocaine and crack, selling large amount of meth and cocaine and am still on WSIB due to a mental injury preventing me from working.
• From my last call in 2014 until this day I'm still seeing a psychologist but WSIB poured it on hard from to try and see if I could ever be retrained to work anywhere at anything again.
• In late 2018 I was deemed "unfit" as a candidate for ANY employment and my file was closed as a hopeless case and I was "permanently injured" on the job. This meant I was on a medical disability pension receiving 100% of my income and left to my own devices. The books were closed on me and I was on a pension now with WSIB benefits as well covering any expense I needed for therapy or head shrinking.
• After realizing I was told I was actually that fucked I left the bike club and came home and realized that yes my two sons had really left. I was alone now. I felt sorry for myself and kept the drinking and cocaine going hard on my own. I watched the movie Leaving Las Vegas over and over and would watch gory military movies and incessantly watch any kill videos I could find on websites that were what I used to do. Apparently this is trauma bonding.
• My family were the best parents and sister a guy could ask for. They'd try their best to help but really were just enabling me from getting to bottom and they see that now and I used up every last bit of enabling I could until they figured it out and I was now really, truly on my own.
• None of the meds worked from 2014-2018. Even while sober from 2015-2017 the meds did fuck all and I was always sweating, red in the face and had a short temper. I was a "dry drunk" that just wanted that high speed back and was a narcissistic asshole.
• Back alone in my condo with no family and no kids I started pounding back 60oz of Jack Daniels a day and switched to vodka. A 60oz of vodka a day. The word around AA is that once you've gotten yourself down to vodka only you're at the end. Well, I was. I didn't know you could do this but I drank myself to death. I officially "retired" in early 2019 and was no longer a cop and had to hand in my badge and was now on a full medical psycho pension.
• In June of 2019 I was at my parents for a weekend and believe it or not because I wasn't drinking enough there (to try and be respectful) they would give me a couple shots every 2 hours to keep me sane and stable but this ended up being a bad approach to a hard case like me.
• I had a seizure and couldn't breathe, my lungs were full of fluid and I couldn't breathe. My body was so full of edema I looked like a bloated whale. This all in front of my parents
• Ambulance called and the last I remember saying in a calm voice to the paramedic (and to this day my Dad laughs at how calm I was) was "I'm going down you've got 5 minutes to intubate or I'm done, call my sister and my kids"
• 6 weeks later I wake and am told I had died for 10 minutes. My ribs are broken from CPR and I have tubes down in my lungs and into my nose all for food and oxygen. I was on life support for a bit and my heart had been shocked back to get a pulse.
• I get released and had "learned my lesson" and went back to my own place and my two sons came back to live with me. Got released in July 2019 and my "lesson" I learned lasted until October 2019 when my son turned 19 which is drinking age where I am so I thought it'd be a good idea to take him a strip club and have "one beer". I woke up in my room surrounded by a half used ounce of cocaine and bottles everywhere. My son said "Dad you can't drink" and I knew it but didn't care. They moved back in with wife # 2 and I was alone again. this time I knew how much would kill me so I backed off the 60oz and kept it around 40oz.
• Meanwhile I was in and out of the hospital or detox centres about a half dozen times each between October 2019 and April 2021.
• I quit the cocaine to be just an alcohol drinker thinking this was a kind gesture to my family and this went on until late April 2021 when (and mind you I somehow maintained my muscle mass and general shape and have a black belt in BJJ and a head full of hate and rage) I go balistic on a guy at a bar and smash him a new face and stabbed him too. Off to jail I go, and literally I knew half the cops dealing with me and they would tip toe around me like I was some psychotic alien. Due to my mental history, being flagged as "violent" in the 'system', "suicidal", an "escape risk" and possibly "armed" (basically every flag a cop would hear if I got pulled over or contacted on the street)
• My case was adjourned so many times I can't recall how many but it didn't get dealt with until 2023.
• Meanwhile my parents hire a hard hitting lawyer who somehow, my Gods grace, convinces the Judge to grant me bail so long as I live with my parents and am on strict house arrest. This might make you laugh but I had them add the condition that I was allowed to travel to and from the gym for "mental health reasons". I maintained a TRT the whole time since 2015.
• I get out after a week waiting for bail and am living with my parents. This is now early May 2021. I convince them I need to keep drinking or I mentally won't survive and I promise to keep to myself in the basement and just be quiet down there and drink. My Dad drives me to the liquor store every day.
• In a moment of clarity I realize my oldest sons birthday is coming up on July 5th and I order him a new set of golf clubs and a kickass new golf bag. On the day of his birthday he comes over to get his birthday present and I'm practically in a coma and my Dad had to give him the golf clubs for me and my Mom takes a picture of him and my Dad (his grandpa) while I'm downstairs passed out.
• I wake up July 6th and yell up the stairs to my Dad "Is Connor coming today for his golf clubs?" and my Dad says you missed it, that was yesterday he came and got them already.
• After ALL the shit, all the damage and warning signs and rehabs and ex wives and my kids having an unpredictable home not knowing if they could be with me THIS was my personal bottom
• They say a man's personal bottom is very personal and it has to come from within. You have to find your bottom and YOU have to be sick of your own self and want to either die, or make a go of it ONLY for yourself. This was my moment.
• I started at the bottom of the stairs and crawled and inched my way to the top while my Dad watched me, saying nothing. I got to the top and said "I'm done". My Dad very stoically said "Ok let's go" and he drove me to the hospital.
• I was in the hospital for about a month getting my organs and body back in shape to even execute my aftercare plan
• I called a sponsor who had been waiting for me to call for three years since I died in 2019 and he said "so I hear you're done?" and I said "ya i'm fuckin done man this is it or i'm dead and I hate myself and want to die". Being the amazing sponsor he is he said "Good".
• My sober date is July 6, 2021, the day after my sons birthday. I worked the 12-step program and rediscovered my relationship with God and work the steps to this day. Despite being sober since July 6th, 2021 I developed an amazon addiction and a sugar addiction and gained 80 lbs while sober. This was a good lesson because an addict is an addict with anything, it's not just the booze or the drugs that's the problem it's ME! I solved this by being honest with myself and cut myself off buying anything and ran a hard core keto diet for 8 months and went from 270+ lbs to 190lbs in 8 months.
• With six months of sobriety I attend rehab for the 5th and 6th time for addiction and PTSD only this time I attend and I mean business, with a clear head, truly sober and with honesty openness and willingness.
• Meanwhile the wreckage of my past came knocking and my court case finally came due in January of 2024 and I was sentenced to 3 months in our version of a supermax (in the US it's called the SHU) due to the violent tendencies and mental issues that you never get 'unflagged' for just because you've been sober for a couple years they still consider you flagged as a threat. 3 months was a super light sentence but it had been because I had gotten my shit together for those 2 years and abided by all bail conditions and had been sober and had a great PSI report for the Judge. A single cell locked down 23 hours a day and out for 1 hour about half the days of the week depending on the guards moods. The first 3 days were hell, like an in shock kind of feeling and then my 12-step program and Faith kicked in and I settled in for the ride and knew I was there for a reason.
• I'm almost 2 years sober going inside and not being given a break by the Judge was a huge blessing in disguise. I had time to reflect, and read, and found out who my true circle is but most importantly in there I found myself
• I got out in April 2024 and celebrated my 3 year sobriety on July 6th 2024.
• On July 6th that just passed I celebrated my 4-year anniversary with my girlfriend who doesn't drink and is as badass as I ever thought I was and accepts, respects, and supports everything about me and my past and she says she can't picture that old me one bit and that it has to have been removed (which is what the big book of AA says will happen - "the problem will be removed", that problem not being the drugs or alcohol but that problem being "me", so there needed to be a new me and that comes with Step 12)
• Today, everything is behind me, I have an amazing relationship with my kids I miss ZERO events for them and they call me when they need me and everything I do for others makes me feel grateful now. My job is to help others and think zero of myself. I try not to do much of my own thinking and give it up to God or call my sponsor.
• My parents drink and when I'm around it I don't even notice and if offered it by someone that doesn't know me I recoil from it like it's a hot flame (this is how it's described in the book and this is what happened to me by honestly working the steps and being bottom willing to go to any lengths to get sober and stay recovered from this horrible disease)
• Now I sponsor other men with this disease and have helped 2 so far (out of countless dozens who've tried with me) make it through to other side of it. 2 out of 100 isn't that bad considering how this gets ahold of you but truly I help others to keep myself sober and if the man I'm sponsoring makes it then that's a bonus.

That is about as much as I can condense for you brothers. I won't tell the horror stories of me sniffing lines off the police cruiser laptop or the lying cheating and stealing money from my family or bad guys for my own drugs, stealing and lying to anyone and everyone because if you're a recovered addict I know you can just imagine the shit I've been through and done.

Now, I'm a dedicated Dad, step Dad to my girlfriends amazing kids, reliable brother and very trusted friend to many amazing people. I am honest to a fault without regretting and so it direct to everyone and people appreciate whether they know it or not. I get up every day at 6am, attend one meeting a week, currently sponsoring a man named "Garry" and my addiction is now the gym and bio-hacking with PED use to see my body transform.

Now the meds: due to the damage to my heart I needed anti-remodeling meds and due to the lifelong diagnosis of Operator Syndrome I am finally on the meds that keep me calm with mood stability and be able to sleep as well. My ejection fraction went from 22% to 53% and my cardiologist said I'm a walking miracle and my heart as healed itself. Nonetheless I'm on a laundry list of meds for both my heart and my psyche/Operator Syndrom.

So here's the list of my meds:

Zopiclone 7.5mg ED @ night (sleep)
Tadalafil 5mg ED @ morning (blood pressure/ED)
Sertraline=Zoloft 200mg @ night (mood)
Entresto 100mg (48.6mg Sacubitril/51.4mg Valsartin) @ night (heart)
Seroquil=Quetiapine 50mg @ night (anti-psychotic/sleep)
Prazosin 11mg @ night (nightmares/flashbacks)
Pantoprazole 40mg @ morning (stomach)
Lasix 40mg @ morning (water retention/edema - heart)
Eplerenone 25mg @ morning (heart)
Diazepam=Valium 10mg @ night (sleep/calm CNS)
Bisoprolol 10mg @ morning (heart)


So there's my personal story as promised @LevButlerov and all EVO bros. I'm sure there's many out there like me for sure. God bless.

Honestly brother complete respect

 

[toddthelineman]

My addiction story from 2012 til 2021.

Like all us addicts our stories are filled with wreckage and damage we've caused so I'll spare you the gory details and stick to the DOC's (drugs of choice) during what years they were and where I ended up and when I got sober. I'll use bullet points as my story spans almost a decade.

• Police Officer from 1999-2019 (20 years and was out)
• Used booze like any cop to unwind and overdid it often, no biggie, drank hard on days off and never when working
• Worked with our ERT = Emergency Response Team (in the US they call it SWAT or some variation) otherwise was a traffic cop, lots of pissed off motorists and gory ass blood and guts accidents
• Due to my level of callouts and what I did both on ERT and at car wrecks my head and mental state got all fucked up. I was pure adrenaline all the time and wired for speed. I had what's called Operator Syndrome (or some call it severe c-PTSD) which basically turns you into a powder keg of rage ready to explode at any time but makes you great at your job.
• In 2012 I was rear ended by a drunk driver and prescribed Percocets (oxycodone and tylenol). I fucking LOVED them and they helped the PTSD I didn't know I had. They didn't make me tired like most people they gave me energy and at the same time calmed my mind down. I had zero problems and felt at peace in my head. I was on them for as long as the doc would prescribe them until he got wind from my ex wife I was using the shit out of them. He cut my prescription off and I got withdrawals and sick as fuck so I started getting them from a buddy. Drained my bank account and took whatever was for sale, dilaudid, hydromorphone, oxycontin, fentanyl patches, anything to keep that "everything is fucking great" feeling and also not to feel like your hair hurts when the wind blows (the withdrawals are fucking awful). Was going to work and functioning on all this as it gave me energy and my mood was ever more alpha.
• Got caught due to finances and came clean. Police Force sent me to rehab in 2012 where I was told I was apparently an alcoholic and an addict. I thought they were full of shit but played the game. Went back to work and was on Suboxone (buprenorphine) which makes any pain pill not work. I was "cured" and made a go at no booze as well and did the whole AA thing too. Even worked the 12-step program but inside I hadn't accepted I was fucked and was just playing the game.
• Time went by and from 2012-2014 I started drinking again and convinced the ex that booze was never my problem.
• Meanwhile from 2012-2014 I had some of the craziest ERT calls ever. High speed no knock warrant breaches and shootings, went home like meh whatever and would drink a 12-pack and slam some liquor too, problem solved and a good day at work. Was in great shape looked like He-Man marvel character and had an ego that could fill the room. Mindset was another bad guy with a hole in the head fucking right I did good today. Not knowing this takes a toll on the mind.
• Early 2014 my non cop friends (who all did blow and I didn't care) crunched me out a line and I did one and loved that too (shocking). Oh but still, I wasn't no addict or alcoholic my job is stressful and I'm blowing off steam. Hence the cocaine addiction started for all of 2014. Got caught and ponied up that I was doing blow always while I drank and sent back to the same rehab. In rehab this time they said I also have severe PTSD. Got out knowing I "over do it" and told myself well I'm high fuckin speed I don't do anything half way and that's what makes me a good operator so I can control this and just stop.
• Right after getting out of rehab for addiction I get sent back for PTSD (same rehab again - an in house 8 week program and you don't get visits). So this was my 1st and 2nd bit in rehab.
• Late 2014 I attend my final call for duty (a bad one) and I go home and get fucked up on booze and cocaine for about a week and call in sick to work. Ex wife drives me to the nut house and I get admitted for 3-day involuntary custody for evaluation. I come being diagnosed with Alcohol use disorder, Cocaine use disorder, Opiate use disorder and severe c-PTSD and am given a doctors note to stay off work for 6 months until I've seen a Psychiatrist and properly assessed.
• Finally get in with a Psychiatrist and it goes bad (so I thought). He says I'm borderline psychotic and may be good at my job but I've been through too much and my brain has changed. MRI of my amygdala shows it's enlarged and I'm on constant fight or flight mode even while sober. Psychiatrist reaches out to Workmen's Comp saying I have a brain injury due to "multiple traumatic events over time" and am deemed unemployable and need rehabilitation for an indeterminate amount of time. In Canada it's called WSIB (workmen's comp in US)
• Divorced the ex who had had enough and met who I thought was the "love of my life" in 2015. I go back to rehab for a 3rd and 4th time for addiction and PTSD to show her I loved her (lol). My kids (I have 4) would visit on weekends and once during the week for dinner and then my two sons didn't wanna live with Mom so they moved in with me. Now I had a "real" reason to stay sober and didn't need AA anymore (addicts always think they got shit figured out themselves). My kids needed me and so did my 2nd wife's kids (my 3 stepkids at the time - her own 3 kids). In hindsight I know that trying to stay sober for your kids is a bullshit reason if you're a true addict and alcoholic it can only last so long.
• I was getting paid full pay and thought HAHA fuck you government I'm fine I get to workout and netflix and chill all day
• From From 2015-2017 I stay sober "for my kids" because they need me
• In 2018 (yes shocking I ride motorcycles) I join a biker club and have ONE beer with them. Off I went, from ONE beer
• That one beer led me to resenting my second wife and moving out with my two sons into a condo of our own.
• I rode with the club almost 24/7 and abandoned my two boys who had to move back in with my 2nd wife who I had left
• I got deep into drinking, using cocaine and crack, selling large amount of meth and cocaine and am still on WSIB due to a mental injury preventing me from working.
• From my last call in 2014 until this day I'm still seeing a psychologist but WSIB poured it on hard from to try and see if I could ever be retrained to work anywhere at anything again.
• In late 2018 I was deemed "unfit" as a candidate for ANY employment and my file was closed as a hopeless case and I was "permanently injured" on the job. This meant I was on a medical disability pension receiving 100% of my income and left to my own devices. The books were closed on me and I was on a pension now with WSIB benefits as well covering any expense I needed for therapy or head shrinking.
• After realizing I was told I was actually that fucked I left the bike club and came home and realized that yes my two sons had really left. I was alone now. I felt sorry for myself and kept the drinking and cocaine going hard on my own. I watched the movie Leaving Las Vegas over and over and would watch gory military movies and incessantly watch any kill videos I could find on websites that were what I used to do. Apparently this is trauma bonding.
• My family were the best parents and sister a guy could ask for. They'd try their best to help but really were just enabling me from getting to bottom and they see that now and I used up every last bit of enabling I could until they figured it out and I was now really, truly on my own.
• None of the meds worked from 2014-2018. Even while sober from 2015-2017 the meds did fuck all and I was always sweating, red in the face and had a short temper. I was a "dry drunk" that just wanted that high speed back and was a narcissistic asshole.
• Back alone in my condo with no family and no kids I started pounding back 60oz of Jack Daniels a day and switched to vodka. A 60oz of vodka a day. The word around AA is that once you've gotten yourself down to vodka only you're at the end. Well, I was. I didn't know you could do this but I drank myself to death. I officially "retired" in early 2019 and was no longer a cop and had to hand in my badge and was now on a full medical psycho pension.
• In June of 2019 I was at my parents for a weekend and believe it or not because I wasn't drinking enough there (to try and be respectful) they would give me a couple shots every 2 hours to keep me sane and stable but this ended up being a bad approach to a hard case like me.
• I had a seizure and couldn't breathe, my lungs were full of fluid and I couldn't breathe. My body was so full of edema I looked like a bloated whale. This all in front of my parents
• Ambulance called and the last I remember saying in a calm voice to the paramedic (and to this day my Dad laughs at how calm I was) was "I'm going down you've got 5 minutes to intubate or I'm done, call my sister and my kids"
• 6 weeks later I wake and am told I had died for 10 minutes. My ribs are broken from CPR and I have tubes down in my lungs and into my nose all for food and oxygen. I was on life support for a bit and my heart had been shocked back to get a pulse.
• I get released and had "learned my lesson" and went back to my own place and my two sons came back to live with me. Got released in July 2019 and my "lesson" I learned lasted until October 2019 when my son turned 19 which is drinking age where I am so I thought it'd be a good idea to take him a strip club and have "one beer". I woke up in my room surrounded by a half used ounce of cocaine and bottles everywhere. My son said "Dad you can't drink" and I knew it but didn't care. They moved back in with wife # 2 and I was alone again. this time I knew how much would kill me so I backed off the 60oz and kept it around 40oz.
• Meanwhile I was in and out of the hospital or detox centres about a half dozen times each between October 2019 and April 2021.
• I quit the cocaine to be just an alcohol drinker thinking this was a kind gesture to my family and this went on until late April 2021 when (and mind you I somehow maintained my muscle mass and general shape and have a black belt in BJJ and a head full of hate and rage) I go balistic on a guy at a bar and smash him a new face and stabbed him too. Off to jail I go, and literally I knew half the cops dealing with me and they would tip toe around me like I was some psychotic alien. Due to my mental history, being flagged as "violent" in the 'system', "suicidal", an "escape risk" and possibly "armed" (basically every flag a cop would hear if I got pulled over or contacted on the street)
• My case was adjourned so many times I can't recall how many but it didn't get dealt with until 2023.
• Meanwhile my parents hire a hard hitting lawyer who somehow, my Gods grace, convinces the Judge to grant me bail so long as I live with my parents and am on strict house arrest. This might make you laugh but I had them add the condition that I was allowed to travel to and from the gym for "mental health reasons". I maintained a TRT the whole time since 2015.
• I get out after a week waiting for bail and am living with my parents. This is now early May 2021. I convince them I need to keep drinking or I mentally won't survive and I promise to keep to myself in the basement and just be quiet down there and drink. My Dad drives me to the liquor store every day.
• In a moment of clarity I realize my oldest sons birthday is coming up on July 5th and I order him a new set of golf clubs and a kickass new golf bag. On the day of his birthday he comes over to get his birthday present and I'm practically in a coma and my Dad had to give him the golf clubs for me and my Mom takes a picture of him and my Dad (his grandpa) while I'm downstairs passed out.
• I wake up July 6th and yell up the stairs to my Dad "Is Connor coming today for his golf clubs?" and my Dad says you missed it, that was yesterday he came and got them already.
• After ALL the shit, all the damage and warning signs and rehabs and ex wives and my kids having an unpredictable home not knowing if they could be with me THIS was my personal bottom
• They say a man's personal bottom is very personal and it has to come from within. You have to find your bottom and YOU have to be sick of your own self and want to either die, or make a go of it ONLY for yourself. This was my moment.
• I started at the bottom of the stairs and crawled and inched my way to the top while my Dad watched me, saying nothing. I got to the top and said "I'm done". My Dad very stoically said "Ok let's go" and he drove me to the hospital.
• I was in the hospital for about a month getting my organs and body back in shape to even execute my aftercare plan
• I called a sponsor who had been waiting for me to call for three years since I died in 2019 and he said "so I hear you're done?" and I said "ya i'm fuckin done man this is it or i'm dead and I hate myself and want to die". Being the amazing sponsor he is he said "Good".
• My sober date is July 6, 2021, the day after my sons birthday. I worked the 12-step program and rediscovered my relationship with God and work the steps to this day. Despite being sober since July 6th, 2021 I developed an amazon addiction and a sugar addiction and gained 80 lbs while sober. This was a good lesson because an addict is an addict with anything, it's not just the booze or the drugs that's the problem it's ME! I solved this by being honest with myself and cut myself off buying anything and ran a hard core keto diet for 8 months and went from 270+ lbs to 190lbs in 8 months.
• With six months of sobriety I attend rehab for the 5th and 6th time for addiction and PTSD only this time I attend and I mean business, with a clear head, truly sober and with honesty openness and willingness.
• Meanwhile the wreckage of my past came knocking and my court case finally came due in January of 2024 and I was sentenced to 3 months in our version of a supermax (in the US it's called the SHU) due to the violent tendencies and mental issues that you never get 'unflagged' for just because you've been sober for a couple years they still consider you flagged as a threat. 3 months was a super light sentence but it had been because I had gotten my shit together for those 2 years and abided by all bail conditions and had been sober and had a great PSI report for the Judge. A single cell locked down 23 hours a day and out for 1 hour about half the days of the week depending on the guards moods. The first 3 days were hell, like an in shock kind of feeling and then my 12-step program and Faith kicked in and I settled in for the ride and knew I was there for a reason.
• I'm almost 2 years sober going inside and not being given a break by the Judge was a huge blessing in disguise. I had time to reflect, and read, and found out who my true circle is but most importantly in there I found myself
• I got out in April 2024 and celebrated my 3 year sobriety on July 6th 2024.
• On July 6th that just passed I celebrated my 4-year anniversary with my girlfriend who doesn't drink and is as badass as I ever thought I was and accepts, respects, and supports everything about me and my past and she says she can't picture that old me one bit and that it has to have been removed (which is what the big book of AA says will happen - "the problem will be removed", that problem not being the drugs or alcohol but that problem being "me", so there needed to be a new me and that comes with Step 12)
• Today, everything is behind me, I have an amazing relationship with my kids I miss ZERO events for them and they call me when they need me and everything I do for others makes me feel grateful now. My job is to help others and think zero of myself. I try not to do much of my own thinking and give it up to God or call my sponsor.
• My parents drink and when I'm around it I don't even notice and if offered it by someone that doesn't know me I recoil from it like it's a hot flame (this is how it's described in the book and this is what happened to me by honestly working the steps and being bottom willing to go to any lengths to get sober and stay recovered from this horrible disease)
• Now I sponsor other men with this disease and have helped 2 so far (out of countless dozens who've tried with me) make it through to other side of it. 2 out of 100 isn't that bad considering how this gets ahold of you but truly I help others to keep myself sober and if the man I'm sponsoring makes it then that's a bonus.

That is about as much as I can condense for you brothers. I won't tell the horror stories of me sniffing lines off the police cruiser laptop or the lying cheating and stealing money from my family or bad guys for my own drugs, stealing and lying to anyone and everyone because if you're a recovered addict I know you can just imagine the shit I've been through and done.

Now, I'm a dedicated Dad, step Dad to my girlfriends amazing kids, reliable brother and very trusted friend to many amazing people. I am honest to a fault without regretting and so it direct to everyone and people appreciate whether they know it or not. I get up every day at 6am, attend one meeting a week, currently sponsoring a man named "Garry" and my addiction is now the gym and bio-hacking with PED use to see my body transform.

Now the meds: due to the damage to my heart I needed anti-remodeling meds and due to the lifelong diagnosis of Operator Syndrome I am finally on the meds that keep me calm with mood stability and be able to sleep as well. My ejection fraction went from 22% to 53% and my cardiologist said I'm a walking miracle and my heart as healed itself. Nonetheless I'm on a laundry list of meds for both my heart and my psyche/Operator Syndrom.

So here's the list of my meds:

Zopiclone 7.5mg ED @ night (sleep)
Tadalafil 5mg ED @ morning (blood pressure/ED)
Sertraline=Zoloft 200mg @ night (mood)
Entresto 100mg (48.6mg Sacubitril/51.4mg Valsartin) @ night (heart)
Seroquil=Quetiapine 50mg @ night (anti-psychotic/sleep)
Prazosin 11mg @ night (nightmares/flashbacks)
Pantoprazole 40mg @ morning (stomach)
Lasix 40mg @ morning (water retention/edema - heart)
Eplerenone 25mg @ morning (heart)
Diazepam=Valium 10mg @ night (sleep/calm CNS)
Bisoprolol 10mg @ morning (heart)


So there's my personal story as promised @LevButlerov and all EVO bros. I'm sure there's many out there like me for sure. God bless.

Wooooo that’s a good one. Idk how I missed the full run down, but I had it pieced together. You’re damn near robocop the way you’re put back together @HarleyGuy. You’ve really earned your redemption. Some serious inspiration to start my week hahaha

 

[LevButlerov]

Re-ordered the niacin 500mg... with my tolerance and caloric intake I'll just 'send it' baby. If I flush I'll just say I'm blushing.

good call lets see how it goes.

 

[HarleyGuy]

Just a little teaser update. Still carnivore with one serving of carbs per day @ 100g.

1kg of red meat in the form of filet mignon and ground hamburger patties.

 

[ROIDDERS]

Big time bro! I've upped it to 20g before each meal. I'm 2MAD at 5-6000 calories and 600g protein most of which is red meat so now that I take that I'm regular like clockwork and I don't have that carnivore diet experience in the bathroom anymore haha. Anyone who starts carnivore the first month you are absolutely nuking the toilet every time you sit down LOL

I put the 20g psyllium in with 20g creatine, 9g taurine, 20g collagen peptide powder, add gatorade zero and swirl that shit around and pop 3 digest gold and slam it while it's still spinning and it all goes right down. Then take a swig of apple cider vinegar with mother and sit and pretend I'm at a food eating competition and get it all in (usually at least 1.5kg red meat) as fast as I can because if you go slow you'll just get bloated and feel full and won't wanna finish it.

okay good you found something that works

 

[ballin2504]

Log Update today: 10Oct2025

• Total protein today: 525 grams today!
• 211 lbs today still gaining! BF same
• Not missing workouts just working more on EVO brothers than my own log for a bit.
• Strength intact and good to go
• One order touched down from @Fusion Canada and working on another now
• I went beast mode today on back and had the shirt soaked!
• When I got home threw my gym shirt on my girls legs just to get a rise out of her . Said this is a real mans post workout shirt and all I got was "Fucking EWWWWWW"
• Attempted a failed duplication of @BodyMonster34 's pic (see fail in pics) NF Touchdown in honor of BM34 (you'll love LOL!)

Training today:

Back:
Seated D-grip cable row
warmup for form and bloodflow
2 sets with pin at 110 x 10
2 sets with pin 120's x 9 (long rest before heavy)
1 set with pin at 130 x 10
1 set with pin at 130 x 8
1 set with pin at 130 x 7 (grip started to give here might start with wraps for the first time on this exercise)
1 set with pin at 100 to failure (got to about )

Bent over rows
no warmup
1 set with 80's x 10
1 set with 110's x 8
1 set with 110's x 5
1 set with 70's to failure

Traps:
Dumbbell shrugs with straps (gonna look for a new trap exercise this is getting stalled):
warmup form and bloodflow
2 sets with 80's x12
1 set with 90's x 10
1 set with 100's x 8
1 set with 120's x 8
1 set with 60's to eccentric failure


Calves
Standing calf raise machine
5 sets to failure with pin set near the bottom at its heaviest
Failure happens between 6-12 depending on the set

Core
Oblique
Lay on the big yoga ball with a 45lb plate and do a 180 back and forth

Crunches
4 sets each to failure with 25lb weight on chest




Diet: 2MAD TODAY **see pics**


Meal # 1 (Standard: Protein shake + diner steak and eggs with rye toast and tomatoes):

Protein shake (upon waking)
Whey 3-scoops = 450 cals 75g P 9g C 9g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen Peptide Protein 1 scoop same size as the whey 68 cals 17g P
Creatine 20g
1 cup blueberries
4 tbsp cinnamon
vanilla extract

838 cals
152 P
15g F
21g C

8oz top sirloin:
600 cals
60 P
60 F
0 C

2 whole eggs:
150 cals
13 P
13 F
0 C

2 slice rye toast:
165 cals
5 P
2 F
30 C

Meal #1 Total:
1753 cals
230 P
90 F
51 C


PREWORKOUT CARBS (**see pics**)
1 scoop Karbolyn - sitting well no bloat

200 cals
50 C


Meal # 2 (1.2 kg flank steak + 500g egg whites):

1.2kg flank steak
1750 cals
245 P
85 F
0 C

500g egg whites
218 cals
50 P
2 F
0 C

Meal #2 Total:
1968 cals
295 P
87F
0 C



Total macros today 10OCT2025 (Friday) including PreW carbs:
3921 cals
525g Protein
173g Fat
101g Carbs



Peptides today:
Jeotropin HGH 4iu @ night fasted
MK677 10mg right before bed


Supps today:
Digest Gold 2 caps before each meal
NAC 2000mg (1000mg with each meal)
Biotin 10mg (10,000 mcg) x 2 = 20mg biotin
Berberine 1000mg (with every meal)
Milk Thistle 3 pills providing 450mg of silymarin
Mutant multi vitamin x 2 (one with meal# 1 and meal #2)
Creatine 20g with protein shake
Psyllium husk 30g (15g before each meal)
Ubiquinol 200mg *upped this dose*
Organic Raw Apple Cider Vinegar with mother 2 tbsp (1 tbsp before each meal)
HCGenerate (3 caps with each meal - double this dose)
Taurine 6g in protein shake
Biopiperine 10mg


GEAR:

Rx TRT 150mg TestE (Delatestryl)


Ancillaries (gyno reduction protocol started 01Sep):

-Now at 10mg tamoxifen (Nolvadex) morning ED

@HarleyGuy nice picture of the gear and it looks like you’re leaning out really well. Great update keep them coming.

 

[HarleyGuy]

@HarleyGuy nice picture of the gear and it looks like you’re leaning out really well. Great update keep them coming.

Thanks bro I'm still going strong can't wait til the New Year when I start a new log and blast haha!

 

[HarleyGuy]

Thanksgiving dinner EVO style. Taking first bite!

 

[LevButlerov]

Just a little teaser update. Still carnivore with one serving of carbs per day @ 100g.

1kg of red meat in the form of filet mignon and ground hamburger patties.

OMG! 1kg of meat, like a real carnivore EVO family respect your way. @HarleyGuy

 

[Allupfromhere]

OMG! 1kg of meat, like a real carnivore EVO family respect your way. @HarleyGuy

1kg is beast mode

 

[LevButlerov]

1kg is beast mode

maximum beast

 

[HarleyGuy]

1kg is beast mode

maximum beast

I always kinda giggle when I read this like I'm not worthy of it because to me this is just every night now and I've especially learned I can handle it all because of EVO. I have a 1.2kg flank steak thawing in the fridge for tomorrows meal # 2 post workout LOL.

 

[HarleyGuy]

14Oct - Log update while driving…..

Still rockin the abs and lower chest fat while seated.

 

[HarleyGuy]

Posting on the fly from the kitchen here …. 1kg flank with as much Parmesan cheese as I could fit on top to broil.

 

[toddthelineman]

Posting on the fly from the kitchen here …. 1kg flank with as much Parmesan cheese as I could fit on top to broil.

That looks amazing

 

[Allupfromhere]

14Oct - Log update while driving…..

Still rockin the abs and lower chest fat while seated.

Fuck brother mid section staying tight

 

[LevButlerov]

I always kinda giggle when I read this like I'm not worthy of it because to me this is just every night now and I've especially learned I can handle it all because of EVO. I have a 1.2kg flank steak thawing in the fridge for tomorrows meal # 2 post workout LOL.

You are a true beast come on 1.2kg flank takes a real man to eat it @HarleyGuy EVO family love your way!

 

[LevButlerov]

14Oct - Log update while driving…..

Still rockin the abs and lower chest fat while seated.

Looking lean, abs tight
and thats not chest fat just skin no worries @HarleyGuy

 

[LevButlerov]

Posting on the fly from the kitchen here …. 1kg flank with as much Parmesan cheese as I could fit on top to broil.

OMG! I am hungry doing PM cardio and clicking that @HarleyGuy

 

[HarleyGuy]

Looking lean, abs tight
and thats not chest fat just skin no worries @HarleyGuy

My body dysmorphia says it needs to be cut out with a scalpel and that sitting upright is no excuse LOL. I think I'm in better shape now at 48 than when I was on the teams. Cardio is even going well I need a full log update. I'm definitely more fucked up now with body dysmorphia and I embrace it!

 

[LevButlerov]

My body dysmorphia says it needs to be cut out with a scalpel and that sitting upright is no excuse LOL. I think I'm in better shape now at 48 than when I was on the teams. Cardio is even going well I need a full log update. I'm definitely more fucked up now with body dysmorphia and I embrace it!

We all have body dysmorphia, that’s what drives us to keep pushing harder. You’re killing it at 48, the mindset and discipline are clear in how you talk about training and your life! EVO family respsect for you.

 

[HarleyGuy]

We all have body dysmorphia, that’s what drives us to keep pushing harder. You’re killing it at 48, the mindset and discipline are clear in how you talk about training and your life! EVO family respsect for you.

Mad respect back to "The Entity"! You are appreciated @LevButlerov

 

[Allupfromhere]

My body dysmorphia says it needs to be cut out with a scalpel and that sitting upright is no excuse LOL. I think I'm in better shape now at 48 than when I was on the teams. Cardio is even going well I need a full log update. I'm definitely more fucked up now with body dysmorphia and I embrace it!

It becomes the driving force for more progression doesn't it haha

 

[HarleyGuy]

It becomes the driving force for more progression doesn't it haha

Without it I'd have an estrogen dad bod and be in a size 38 pair of dockers golf pants wearing a lime green golf shirt with tits and my nipples pointing downwards, hair everywhere too, and it's those guys that think they look decent! Poor fucks.

 

[Allupfromhere]

Without it I'd have an estrogen dad bod and be in a size 38 pair of dockers golf pants wearing a lime green golf shirt with tits and my nipples pointing downwards, hair everywhere too, and it's those guys that think they look decent! Poor fucks.

They pretend its decent but if you were to offer them a magic switch to automatically become healthy and jacked every one of them would take it
Too many settle for mediocre because the work is too hard to push for better unfortunately.
The dysmorphia keeps us on the ball.

 

[HarleyGuy]

They pretend its decent but if you were to offer them a magic switch to automatically become healthy and jacked every one of them would take it
Too many settle for mediocre because the work is too hard to push for better unfortunately.
The dysmorphia keeps us on the ball.

Agreed. Most men are now weak minded and weak physically. They aren’t like what our DNA wants us to be they give in to current paradigm of sloth and greed, There’s no way the past few hundred years can compete with what’s in our genes from tens of thousands of years ago and still there being untapped. It’s sad to watch because we are meant to be warriors and the cardboard box food and easy everything has picked off the weakest and made pussies out of what otherwise would be real men they just don’t know they have it inside.

I have a t-shirt that says “embrace the suck”. If it sucks, good it makes you stronger rise above it bitch and nobody cares, work harder. Oh it sucks? Good. It’s hard? Good. Got problems? Good. I can say that today and live it because I’ve been there. So when something happens today that sucks, well… GOOD!

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[Allupfromhere]

Agreed. Most men are now weak minded and weak physically. They aren’t like what our DNA wants us to be they give in to current paradigm of sloth and greed, There’s no way the past few hundred years can compete with what’s in our genes from tens of thousands of years ago and still there being untapped. It’s sad to watch because we are meant to be warriors and the cardboard box food and easy everything has picked off the weakest and made pussies out of what otherwise would be real men they just don’t know they have it inside.

I have a t-shirt that says “embrace the suck”. If it sucks, good it makes you stronger rise above it bitch and nobody cares, work harder. Oh it sucks? Good. It’s hard? Good. Got problems? Good.

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Nail on the head, i always say you gotta learn to love what hard to progress.

 

[Mobster]

Posting on the fly from the kitchen here …. 1kg flank with as much Parmesan cheese as I could fit on top to broil.

Share lol

 

[HarleyGuy]

Share lol

1kg flank steak done and going in for a parmesan broil! Last night's meal#2

 

[stevesmi]

Posting on the fly from the kitchen here …. 1kg flank with as much Parmesan cheese as I could fit on top to broil.

@HarleyGuy that is a nice looking hunk of meat. i don't do well with cheese though. i haven't touched it in years so luckyyou

 

[Ulter]

Agreed. Most men are now weak minded and weak physically. They aren’t like what our DNA wants us to be they give in to current paradigm of sloth and greed, There’s no way the past few hundred years can compete with what’s in our genes from tens of thousands of years ago and still there being untapped. It’s sad to watch because we are meant to be warriors and the cardboard box food and easy everything has picked off the weakest and made pussies out of what otherwise would be real men they just don’t know they have it inside.

I have a t-shirt that says “embrace the suck”. If it sucks, good it makes you stronger rise above it bitch and nobody cares, work harder. Oh it sucks? Good. It’s hard? Good. Got problems? Good. I can say that today and live it because I’ve been there. So when something happens today that sucks, well… GOOD!

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you and I are the same. we are old school. if they allowed it i would love to take a belt with me to the gym and smack the crap out of these guys and whip them into shape that way. but you would get arrested today for doing that. @HarleyGuy

 

[2Thick]

Posting on the fly from the kitchen here …. 1kg flank with as much Parmesan cheese as I could fit on top to broil.

looks good on those eats. @HarleyGuy gotta love some nice flank. i had no idea it was so popular

 

[ceo]

1kg flank steak done and going in for a parmesan broil! Last night's meal#2

@HarleyGuy bros i'm jealous you can afford a hunk of meat like that in this economy. shit getting more and more pricey. especially beef

 

[HarleyGuy]

At grocery store now. 3kg boneless rib. Should be good for a couple days

 

[ROIDDERS]

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At grocery store now. 3kg boneless rib. Should be good for a couple days

the beef is from australia? i thought canada had really good beef? seems like that would make sense @HarleyGuy

 

[toddthelineman]

the beef is from australia? i thought canada had really good beef? seems like that would make sense @HarleyGuy

It’s wild that Australia exports so much beef. I heard it was all grass finished too. I wish we raised even more here. Mow down all that corn they make chips and hfcs with.

 

[ROIDDERS]

It’s wild that Australia exports so much beef. I heard it was all grass finished too. I wish we raised even more here. Mow down all that corn they make chips and hfcs with.

yeah beef prices in the USA are insanely expensive, we need to import more or beef prices will be way too expensive to afford pretty soon. i've seen some aussie beef but not lately

 

[toddthelineman]

yeah beef prices in the USA are insanely expensive, we need to import more or beef prices will be way too expensive to afford pretty soon. i've seen some aussie beef but not lately

Interesting. I think you’re right. I haven’t either and the prices are just going up and up. Is it time to invest in the great economic beef bubble?

 

[LevButlerov]

Mad respect back to "The Entity"! You are appreciated @LevButlerov

EVO family love back at you @HarleyGuy

 

[LevButlerov]

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At grocery store now. 3kg boneless rib. Should be good for a couple days

Looks like a breakfast snack @HarleyGuy for you

 

[HarleyGuy]

Log Update: Monday 15Oct2025

• Total protein today: 731 grams!
• Still 2MAD
• 212lbs in morning (slipped to 205 post blast but adding a bit of carbs helped and increasing calories too)
• Still going strong - same lifts on TRT - switched to Heavy Duty which DOES work! (I take back what I said on page 51!)
• Adding in proviron 25mg/day after talking with @toddthelineman about what I call PBS (post blast syndrome) mood LOL
• Meal#1 bloat settles before noon and Meal#2 bloat settles overnight and I walk around the house after 7pm Nick Walker pregnant because who cares and I wake up with abs. Thank God for the digestion supps!

Training today (Chest/Shoulders/Core/Cardio):


Chest:
bench dumbbell press
warmup: 55lbs x 2 sets x 12 for form and bloodflow
1 set with 70's x 12
2 sets with 90's x 6 to failure
1 set with spotter 100's x 3 to complete eccentric failure (3rd rep concentric assisted and eccentric I was done for!)
1 set with 50's to failure

assisted incline bench machine
no warmup
2 sets with 185lbs to failure each set (6&4 reps - gassed out Heavy Duty style on the eccentric at the end)


Shoulders:
Seated dumbbell press:
warmup for form and bloodflow
1 set with 60's x 12
1 set with 80's x 9
1 set with 100's x 4 (spotted on the 4th and was an assisted eccentric failure by a dude I asked to spot me)
1 set with 50's to eccentric failure


Core:
Roller wheel on knees to almost a full stretch
3 sets to failure

Crunches.
3 sets to failure holding a 25lb weight on my chest.

Cardio:
30 minutes elliptical listening to EVO podcast.



Diet: 2MAD TODAY


Meal # 1 (Protein shake + 10 eggs with 250g parmesan cheese and 100g real bacon bits) **see pics**:

Protein shake (upon waking)
Whey 3-scoops = 450 cals 75g P 9g C 9g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen Peptide Protein 1 scoop same size as the whey 68 cals 17g P
Creatine 20g
1 cup blueberries
4 tbsp cinnamon
vanilla extract

838 cals
152 P
15g F
21g C


10 whole XL eggs **see pics**:

961 cals
79 P
66 F
0 C


250g parmesan grated parmesan cheese **see pics**:
1038 cals
95 P
155 F
8 C

100g precooked real bacon bits **see pics**:
500 cals
30 P
35 F
1 C

Meal #1 Total:
3337 cals
356 P
271 F
30 C



Preworkout carbs **see pics of label**:
Karbolyn - 2 scoops
400 cals
0 P
0 F
100 C



Meal # 2 (1kg flank steak with 250g parmesan cheese) **see pics**:

1kg flank steak **see pics**:
1740 cals
280 P
82 F
0 C

250g parmesan grated parmesan cheese **see pics**:
1038 cals
95 P
155 F
8 C


Meal #2 Total:
2778 cals
375 P
237 F
8 C


Total macros today 15Oct2025:
6515 cals
731g Protein
508g Fat
138g Carbs



Peptides:
Jeotropin HGH 4iu @ night fasted
MK677 10mg right before bed



Supps today:
Digest Gold 3 caps before each meal (total 6 caps ED)
NAC 2000mg (1000mg with each meal)
Biotin 10mg (10,000 mcg) x 3 = 30mg biotin
Berberine 1000mg (with every meal)
Milk Thistle 3 pills providing 450mg of silymarin
Mutant multi vitamin x 2 (one with meal# 1 and meal #2)
Creatine 20g with protein shake
Psyllium husk 30g (15g before each meal)
Ubiquinol 100mg
Organic Raw Apple Cider Vinegar with mother 2 tbsp (1 tbsp before each meal)
N2Guard (5 caps with Meal # 2)
Taurine 9g in shake
Biopiperine 10mg
**NEW** Niacin 500mg
**NEW** ALA 1800mg


GEAR:

Injectables
TRT 150mg Rx Test E (Delatestryl)

Orals:
NF Proviron 25mg ED

Total weekly gear breakdown:
150g TRT Rx TestE
175mg Proviron DHT
0 mg 19-Nor


Ancillaries:
Off all AI's and SERMS


Questions:
- @LevButlerov Thoughts on the proviron and the ALA dose? (I shoulda got r-ALA I know)

 

[toddthelineman]

Adding in proviron 25mg/day after talking with @toddthelineman about what I call PBS (post blast syndrome) mood LOL

I hope this works for you, I’ll bet it does!

 

[LevButlerov]

Log Update: Monday 15Oct2025

• Total protein today: 731 grams!
• Still 2MAD
• 212lbs in morning (slipped to 205 post blast but adding a bit of carbs helped and increasing calories too)
• Still going strong - same lifts on TRT - switched to Heavy Duty which DOES work! (I take back what I said on page 51!)
• Adding in proviron 25mg/day after talking with @toddthelineman about what I call PBS (post blast syndrome) mood LOL
• Meal#1 bloat settles before noon and Meal#2 bloat settles overnight and I walk around the house after 7pm Nick Walker pregnant because who cares and I wake up with abs. Thank God for the digestion supps!

Training today (Chest/Shoulders/Core/Cardio):


Chest:
bench dumbbell press
warmup: 55lbs x 2 sets x 12 for form and bloodflow
1 set with 70's x 12
2 sets with 90's x 6 to failure
1 set with spotter 100's x 3 to complete eccentric failure (3rd rep concentric assisted and eccentric I was done for!)
1 set with 50's to failure

assisted incline bench machine
no warmup
2 sets with 185lbs to failure each set (6&4 reps - gassed out Heavy Duty style on the eccentric at the end)


Shoulders:
Seated dumbbell press:
warmup for form and bloodflow
1 set with 60's x 12
1 set with 80's x 9
1 set with 100's x 4 (spotted on the 4th and was an assisted eccentric failure by a dude I asked to spot me)
1 set with 50's to eccentric failure


Core:
Roller wheel on knees to almost a full stretch
3 sets to failure

Crunches.
3 sets to failure holding a 25lb weight on my chest.

Cardio:
30 minutes elliptical listening to EVO podcast.



Diet: 2MAD TODAY


Meal # 1 (Protein shake + 10 eggs with 250g parmesan cheese and 100g real bacon bits) **see pics**:

Protein shake (upon waking)
Whey 3-scoops = 450 cals 75g P 9g C 9g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen Peptide Protein 1 scoop same size as the whey 68 cals 17g P
Creatine 20g
1 cup blueberries
4 tbsp cinnamon
vanilla extract

838 cals
152 P
15g F
21g C


10 whole XL eggs **see pics**:

961 cals
79 P
66 F
0 C


250g parmesan grated parmesan cheese **see pics**:
1038 cals
95 P
155 F
8 C

100g precooked real bacon bits **see pics**:
500 cals
30 P
35 F
1 C

Meal #1 Total:
3337 cals
356 P
271 F
30 C



Preworkout carbs **see pics of label**:
Karbolyn - 2 scoops
400 cals
0 P
0 F
100 C



Meal # 2 (1kg flank steak with 250g parmesan cheese) **see pics**:

1kg flank steak **see pics**:
1740 cals
280 P
82 F
0 C

250g parmesan grated parmesan cheese **see pics**:
1038 cals
95 P
155 F
8 C


Meal #2 Total:
2778 cals
375 P
237 F
8 C


Total macros today 15Oct2025:
6515 cals
731g Protein
508g Fat
138g Carbs



Peptides:
Jeotropin HGH 4iu @ night fasted
MK677 10mg right before bed



Supps today:
Digest Gold 3 caps before each meal (total 6 caps ED)
NAC 2000mg (1000mg with each meal)
Biotin 10mg (10,000 mcg) x 3 = 30mg biotin
Berberine 1000mg (with every meal)
Milk Thistle 3 pills providing 450mg of silymarin
Mutant multi vitamin x 2 (one with meal# 1 and meal #2)
Creatine 20g with protein shake
Psyllium husk 30g (15g before each meal)
Ubiquinol 100mg
Organic Raw Apple Cider Vinegar with mother 2 tbsp (1 tbsp before each meal)
N2Guard (5 caps with Meal # 2)
Taurine 9g in shake
Biopiperine 10mg
**NEW** Niacin 500mg
**NEW** ALA 1800mg


GEAR:

Injectables
TRT 150mg Rx Test E (Delatestryl)

Orals:
NF Proviron 25mg ED

Total weekly gear breakdown:
150g TRT Rx TestE
175mg Proviron DHT
0 mg 19-Nor


Ancillaries:
Off all AI's and SERMS


Questions:
- @LevButlerov Thoughts on the proviron and the ALA dose? (I shoulda got r-ALA I know)

Good training and food update. The heavy duty setup with those failure sets on dumbbell and machine presses is perfect for you, you're hardcore as always! @HarleyGuy
2MAD plan and the 731 g protein explains the rebound from 205 to 212 lbs fast, you are growing nicely.
BEST meal pics on EVO! FACT!

Proviron at 25 mg ED will sharpen look and mood through this recovery, and 1800 mg ALA is fine for now though you can drop to 1200 mg if digestion ever feels off. I found ALA can cause digestive issues at higher doses fyi.
I did notice you said proviron 25mgs ed and then 175mgs proviron/week? not sure if I got that right or typo.

The cycle overall is tight and recovery looks excellent for TRT baseline work.

 

[HarleyGuy]

I did notice you said proviron 25mgs ed and then 175mgs proviron/week? not sure if I got that right or typo.

The 25mgs was ED and the 175mg was weekly total on 25mg ED yes, just meaning the weekly total of 25mg ED adds up to that much extra DHT I'm adding in to the TRT per week. I'm just being a pussy and whiny and bitching because I'm not on a blast and apparently it helps psychologically a bit with the mental pussy pains of not being on a blast. Frees up some extra T and keeps me happy LOL. Worked for @toddthelineman so I thought I'd give it a try and we could test it out together.

 

[HarleyGuy]

Has anyone else trained themselves to put all these in your hand and then fill your mouth and chug an entire gatorade zero? I used to swallow 30 percocets at a time so hey, why not health supplements LOL?

 

[stevesmi]

Log Update: Monday 15Oct2025

• Total protein today: 731 grams!
• Still 2MAD
• 212lbs in morning (slipped to 205 post blast but adding a bit of carbs helped and increasing calories too)
• Still going strong - same lifts on TRT - switched to Heavy Duty which DOES work! (I take back what I said on page 51!)
• Adding in proviron 25mg/day after talking with @toddthelineman about what I call PBS (post blast syndrome) mood LOL
• Meal#1 bloat settles before noon and Meal#2 bloat settles overnight and I walk around the house after 7pm Nick Walker pregnant because who cares and I wake up with abs. Thank God for the digestion supps!

Training today (Chest/Shoulders/Core/Cardio):


Chest:
bench dumbbell press
warmup: 55lbs x 2 sets x 12 for form and bloodflow
1 set with 70's x 12
2 sets with 90's x 6 to failure
1 set with spotter 100's x 3 to complete eccentric failure (3rd rep concentric assisted and eccentric I was done for!)
1 set with 50's to failure

assisted incline bench machine
no warmup
2 sets with 185lbs to failure each set (6&4 reps - gassed out Heavy Duty style on the eccentric at the end)


Shoulders:
Seated dumbbell press:
warmup for form and bloodflow
1 set with 60's x 12
1 set with 80's x 9
1 set with 100's x 4 (spotted on the 4th and was an assisted eccentric failure by a dude I asked to spot me)
1 set with 50's to eccentric failure


Core:
Roller wheel on knees to almost a full stretch
3 sets to failure

Crunches.
3 sets to failure holding a 25lb weight on my chest.

Cardio:
30 minutes elliptical listening to EVO podcast.



Diet: 2MAD TODAY


Meal # 1 (Protein shake + 10 eggs with 250g parmesan cheese and 100g real bacon bits) **see pics**:

Protein shake (upon waking)
Whey 3-scoops = 450 cals 75g P 9g C 9g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen Peptide Protein 1 scoop same size as the whey 68 cals 17g P
Creatine 20g
1 cup blueberries
4 tbsp cinnamon
vanilla extract

838 cals
152 P
15g F
21g C


10 whole XL eggs **see pics**:

961 cals
79 P
66 F
0 C


250g parmesan grated parmesan cheese **see pics**:
1038 cals
95 P
155 F
8 C

100g precooked real bacon bits **see pics**:
500 cals
30 P
35 F
1 C

Meal #1 Total:
3337 cals
356 P
271 F
30 C



Preworkout carbs **see pics of label**:
Karbolyn - 2 scoops
400 cals
0 P
0 F
100 C



Meal # 2 (1kg flank steak with 250g parmesan cheese) **see pics**:

1kg flank steak **see pics**:
1740 cals
280 P
82 F
0 C

250g parmesan grated parmesan cheese **see pics**:
1038 cals
95 P
155 F
8 C


Meal #2 Total:
2778 cals
375 P
237 F
8 C


Total macros today 15Oct2025:
6515 cals
731g Protein
508g Fat
138g Carbs



Peptides:
Jeotropin HGH 4iu @ night fasted
MK677 10mg right before bed



Supps today:
Digest Gold 3 caps before each meal (total 6 caps ED)
NAC 2000mg (1000mg with each meal)
Biotin 10mg (10,000 mcg) x 3 = 30mg biotin
Berberine 1000mg (with every meal)
Milk Thistle 3 pills providing 450mg of silymarin
Mutant multi vitamin x 2 (one with meal# 1 and meal #2)
Creatine 20g with protein shake
Psyllium husk 30g (15g before each meal)
Ubiquinol 100mg
Organic Raw Apple Cider Vinegar with mother 2 tbsp (1 tbsp before each meal)
N2Guard (5 caps with Meal # 2)
Taurine 9g in shake
Biopiperine 10mg
**NEW** Niacin 500mg
**NEW** ALA 1800mg


GEAR:

Injectables
TRT 150mg Rx Test E (Delatestryl)

Orals:
NF Proviron 25mg ED

Total weekly gear breakdown:
150g TRT Rx TestE
175mg Proviron DHT
0 mg 19-Nor


Ancillaries:
Off all AI's and SERMS


Questions:
- @LevButlerov Thoughts on the proviron and the ALA dose? (I shoulda got r-ALA I know)

@HarleyGuy You are making me super hungry with this food that you post. That steak looks fantastic. Looks like you cooked it perfect.

 

[RoySimpson]

Posting on the fly from the kitchen here …. 1kg flank with as much Parmesan cheese as I could fit on top to broil.

@HarleyGuy that looks incredible!

 

[LevButlerov]

The 25mgs was ED and the 175mg was weekly total on 25mg ED yes, just meaning the weekly total of 25mg ED adds up to that much extra DHT I'm adding in to the TRT per week. I'm just being a pussy and whiny and bitching because I'm not on a blast and apparently it helps psychologically a bit with the mental pussy pains of not being on a blast. Frees up some extra T and keeps me happy LOL. Worked for @toddthelineman so I thought I'd give it a try and we could test it out together.

Proviron helps for sure, and really it's a top oral, not much if any liver strain. @HarleyGuy
do 25mgs ed now and in a few weeks we can always try 50mgs if your joints ok.

 

[LevButlerov]

Has anyone else trained themselves to put all these in your hand and then fill your mouth and chug an entire gatorade zero? I used to swallow 30 percocets at a time so hey, why not health supplements LOL?

I do 5 at a time, used to do more until I chocked 1 day lol said ok I gotta do 5 not 20 @HarleyGuy

 

[HarleyGuy]

Proviron helps for sure, and really it's a top oral, not much if any liver strain. @HarleyGuy
do 25mgs ed now and in a few weeks we can always try 50mgs if your joints ok.

Ok I appreciate that brother I've never really done a lot of research on proviron dosing.

 

[LevButlerov]

Ok I appreciate that brother I've never really done a lot of research on proviron dosing.

25-50mgs is general but at 50 joints can hurt.

 

[Mobster]

731g of protein... boom!

 

[Allupfromhere]

1kg flank steak done and going in for a parmesan broil! Last night's meal#2

Brother i could destroy that haha love me some steak

you and I are the same. we are old school. if they allowed it i would love to take a belt with me to the gym and smack the crap out of these guys and whip them into shape that way. but you would get arrested today for doing that. @HarleyGuy

Haha @Ulter i love how old school you are, wish more blokes were still like that these days lol

It’s wild that Australia exports so much beef. I heard it was all grass finished too. I wish we raised even more here. Mow down all that corn they make chips and hfcs with.

Awesome beef here in aus brother! Got some tomahawks ready for this weekend

 

[Allupfromhere]

Log Update: Monday 15Oct2025

• Total protein today: 731 grams!
• Still 2MAD
• 212lbs in morning (slipped to 205 post blast but adding a bit of carbs helped and increasing calories too)
• Still going strong - same lifts on TRT - switched to Heavy Duty which DOES work! (I take back what I said on page 51!)
• Adding in proviron 25mg/day after talking with @toddthelineman about what I call PBS (post blast syndrome) mood LOL
• Meal#1 bloat settles before noon and Meal#2 bloat settles overnight and I walk around the house after 7pm Nick Walker pregnant because who cares and I wake up with abs. Thank God for the digestion supps!

Training today (Chest/Shoulders/Core/Cardio):


Chest:
bench dumbbell press
warmup: 55lbs x 2 sets x 12 for form and bloodflow
1 set with 70's x 12
2 sets with 90's x 6 to failure
1 set with spotter 100's x 3 to complete eccentric failure (3rd rep concentric assisted and eccentric I was done for!)
1 set with 50's to failure

assisted incline bench machine
no warmup
2 sets with 185lbs to failure each set (6&4 reps - gassed out Heavy Duty style on the eccentric at the end)


Shoulders:
Seated dumbbell press:
warmup for form and bloodflow
1 set with 60's x 12
1 set with 80's x 9
1 set with 100's x 4 (spotted on the 4th and was an assisted eccentric failure by a dude I asked to spot me)
1 set with 50's to eccentric failure


Core:
Roller wheel on knees to almost a full stretch
3 sets to failure

Crunches.
3 sets to failure holding a 25lb weight on my chest.

Cardio:
30 minutes elliptical listening to EVO podcast.



Diet: 2MAD TODAY


Meal # 1 (Protein shake + 10 eggs with 250g parmesan cheese and 100g real bacon bits) **see pics**:

Protein shake (upon waking)
Whey 3-scoops = 450 cals 75g P 9g C 9g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen Peptide Protein 1 scoop same size as the whey 68 cals 17g P
Creatine 20g
1 cup blueberries
4 tbsp cinnamon
vanilla extract

838 cals
152 P
15g F
21g C


10 whole XL eggs **see pics**:

961 cals
79 P
66 F
0 C


250g parmesan grated parmesan cheese **see pics**:
1038 cals
95 P
155 F
8 C

100g precooked real bacon bits **see pics**:
500 cals
30 P
35 F
1 C

Meal #1 Total:
3337 cals
356 P
271 F
30 C



Preworkout carbs **see pics of label**:
Karbolyn - 2 scoops
400 cals
0 P
0 F
100 C



Meal # 2 (1kg flank steak with 250g parmesan cheese) **see pics**:

1kg flank steak **see pics**:
1740 cals
280 P
82 F
0 C

250g parmesan grated parmesan cheese **see pics**:
1038 cals
95 P
155 F
8 C


Meal #2 Total:
2778 cals
375 P
237 F
8 C


Total macros today 15Oct2025:
6515 cals
731g Protein
508g Fat
138g Carbs



Peptides:
Jeotropin HGH 4iu @ night fasted
MK677 10mg right before bed



Supps today:
Digest Gold 3 caps before each meal (total 6 caps ED)
NAC 2000mg (1000mg with each meal)
Biotin 10mg (10,000 mcg) x 3 = 30mg biotin
Berberine 1000mg (with every meal)
Milk Thistle 3 pills providing 450mg of silymarin
Mutant multi vitamin x 2 (one with meal# 1 and meal #2)
Creatine 20g with protein shake
Psyllium husk 30g (15g before each meal)
Ubiquinol 100mg
Organic Raw Apple Cider Vinegar with mother 2 tbsp (1 tbsp before each meal)
N2Guard (5 caps with Meal # 2)
Taurine 9g in shake
Biopiperine 10mg
**NEW** Niacin 500mg
**NEW** ALA 1800mg


GEAR:

Injectables
TRT 150mg Rx Test E (Delatestryl)

Orals:
NF Proviron 25mg ED

Total weekly gear breakdown:
150g TRT Rx TestE
175mg Proviron DHT
0 mg 19-Nor


Ancillaries:
Off all AI's and SERMS


Questions:
- @LevButlerov Thoughts on the proviron and the ALA dose? (I shoulda got r-ALA I know)

100lb dumbbell presses brother you a freak

 

[HarleyGuy]

100lb dumbbell presses brother you a freak

Thanks bro! I'm stronger on challenging my chest with dumbbell press than the bench press. For some reason I've never been a strong bench presser.