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bothbarrelsnsb

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This is my first log, I'm brand new to the forum. If you guys need anymore info please let me know. I've been working out around 6 years now and have always been consistent with eating and water intake. Sleep has always been something I've struggled with as in my first few years i was working 30 hours a week with a full 8 hour school day on top, whilst also training 2-3 hours daily. Safe to say, been focusing more so on sleep recently. Diet will be more locked and tracked once i start this cycle. Planning to run 5 meals prepped daily. I work 10 hours on Tuesday Wednesday Friday Saturday. So the plan is to prep all my meals for the week on Mondays and Thursdays. Don't have specific meals planned yet but goal is to be around 3000 calories with at least 200g protein and 350g carbs. Included bloodwork done a few days ago as well. Don't have to much on it but have enough.

past injuries - I've had tendonitis in both elbows, both biceps, and left rotator cuff on and off for the past 4 years. This is mostly caused by my complete overuse between work and the long gym sessions daily. Took BPC-157 for 3 months which fixed it but once i came off it came right back. hasn't been a problem for around the past year as I've been more focused on recovery and sleep.

current sleep
trying to get 8 hours every night, usually around the 7-8 range, trying to get to the 9 hour range.

Stats
20 years old
5' 7"
162Lbs
around 11-13% BF

Current thought for cycle -
300 test e / week
100-150 EQ / week
4 iu hgh every day

(incase)
HCG on hand
AI on hand

Workout - push pull legs rest push pull rest rest repeat
For my weight and height, im a pretty strong person for a natural. I have a 6'2" wingspan at 5'7", so deadlift has always been pretty good. Stopped all compounds about a year ago. I can type out my full workout routine if its wanted, honestly to lazy to type ALL of that out unless it might give good insight. On most my machines im working on im close to if not at full stack. stopped doing lat pulldown after getting to 260 for 8 at 158 BW. I had a phase were i was more so focused on strength and explosiveness training, but am trying to go down to a little less weight and really focusing longer rep times with more leveled force output throughout the entire rep.

Goals - Looking to put on lean size, Legs aren't as much of a concern as they have been easy to grow in the past and seem to grow from literally anything. Main focus is Shoulders and chest, but just want overall size that is dry grainy and vascular. Wanting to gain around 10-15 pounds of lean muscle.


Morning

Multivitamin
ashwagandha
fish oil/ omega 3
GNC mens test booster(ik it doesn't "boost test" has some good stuff though)
Maca
B6
Semax nasal

Pre Workout

creatine
pre
electrolytes



Before bed

magnesium glycinate
calcium magnesium zinc
zinc
vitamin D3
 

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Real talk, you already look sick natural and you're still very young.

Why not just wait a few more years?

You've got great natural hormone levels and it would be a shame to fuck that up.
Honestly, i wanna see how i respond, the goal ultimately is to be slightly freaky, and stay relatively lean year round. I'm not wanting to be a competing body builder, but i honestly enjoy the life style of staying super consistent with food and my workouts. In saying all of this, I'm honestly just not wanting to wait 4-5 maybe 6 years to be even slightly freaky. I think that there is a big upside that comes with being young and looking a little freaky. Opens a lot of doors and improves overall daily life significantly. I think that if i can run a small cycle without having any significant health risks, i think, why not? At the levels I'm wanting to run things at, if they give me significant enough gains depending on how well my body reacts i just cant think of a reason that i wouldn't want to run something. Being that I've already been doing consistent work for 5-6 years, the actual work that has to be done for the PEDs to work is a non issue as well.
I also believe that if humans have found ways around the risk of PEDs to an extent, im limiting myself by NOT running a cycle. Being natural imo, when viewing only myself, holds no extra honor, it doesn't make me better than anyone to be a natural freak, it just means im an idiot for not putting the effort into tyring to improve even more
 
Honestly, i wanna see how i respond, the goal ultimately is to be slightly freaky, and stay relatively lean year round. I'm not wanting to be a competing body builder, but i honestly enjoy the life style of staying super consistent with food and my workouts. In saying all of this, I'm honestly just not wanting to wait 4-5 maybe 6 years to be even slightly freaky. I think that there is a big upside that comes with being young and looking a little freaky. Opens a lot of doors and improves overall daily life significantly. I think that if i can run a small cycle without having any significant health risks, i think, why not? At the levels I'm wanting to run things at, if they give me significant enough gains depending on how well my body reacts i just cant think of a reason that i wouldn't want to run something. Being that I've already been doing consistent work for 5-6 years, the actual work that has to be done for the PEDs to work is a non issue as well.
I also believe that if humans have found ways around the risk of PEDs to an extent, im limiting myself by NOT running a cycle. Being natural imo, when viewing only myself, holds no extra honor, it doesn't make me better than anyone to be a natural freak, it just means im an idiot for not putting the effort into tyring to improve even more
Thats the kind of dumb answer i'd expect from a 20 year old.

Your body dude.
 
Thats the kind of dumb answer i'd expect from a 20 year old.

Your body dude.
I wouldn't say dumb, just another way of looking at things lol, so aggressive to push out and say "dumb answer". Think how you want of course. worst comes to worse? cycle doesnt go as planned, things go poorly, luckily, im 20!, pct isnt hard, and getting levels back to were they need to be aslong as im running blood work consistently isnt an issue. I dont drink, dont smoke, dont do any drugs, Body is a complete temple. Bloodwork is phenominal. Im healthier than 99 oercent of people my age, running 300 test isnt going to fuck my life forever lmao. Appreciate any and all advice though, of course, your much more well versed in this, so i could be wrong, but trial and error is how people learn in life, so rock on brother🤘🤘
 
Yes it is dumb, so ill break it down for you.

1. i wanna see how i respond - So why not wait until you've finished puberty. Your body isnt even finished developing.
2. I'm not wanting to be a competing body builder - So then why even use PED's at all? For image purposes?
3. Not wanting to wait 4-5 maybe 6 years to be even slightly freaky - You already look freaky good.
4. big upside that comes with being young and looking a little freaky. Opens a lot of doors - Exactly what doors, do you think are going to all of a sudden open for you, that you think are closed now?
5. if humans have found ways around the risk of PEDs to an extent - We haven't. There are still all the same risks. We play with fire, and we all get burned one way or another, now or later.
6. worst comes to worse? cycle doesnt go as planned, things go poorly, luckily, im 20!, pct isnt hard, and getting levels back to were they need to be aslong as im running blood work consistently isnt an issue. - Worst comes to worse, your natural levels never come back, you've permanently ruined your fertility, you've given yourself irrepairable organ growth and HPTA shutdown. You spend your entire PCT trying to restore your natural levels, which will not support any muscle you built on your cycle. You end up looking worse than you started and now your mentally addicted to being on gear.

There is a reason kids your age cant vote or drink in most countries. You're fundamentally still a child.
 
Im not trying to be a dickhead bro, but messing with your endocrine system is no game.

My first cycle was at 25 and it took me 3 years to restore my fertility. Thats 3 years i could have had my children.

We only want whats best for you man. You're young, goodlooking and already in sick shape.

The world is literally already at your feet. Dont fuck it up for 15 pounds of muscle that'll evaporate when you come off.
 
This is my first log, I'm brand new to the forum. If you guys need anymore info please let me know. I've been working out around 6 years now and have always been consistent with eating and water intake. Sleep has always been something I've struggled with as in my first few years i was working 30 hours a week with a full 8 hour school day on top, whilst also training 2-3 hours daily. Safe to say, been focusing more so on sleep recently. Diet will be more locked and tracked once i start this cycle. Planning to run 5 meals prepped daily. I work 10 hours on Tuesday Wednesday Friday Saturday. So the plan is to prep all my meals for the week on Mondays and Thursdays. Don't have specific meals planned yet but goal is to be around 3000 calories with at least 200g protein and 350g carbs. Included bloodwork done a few days ago as well. Don't have to much on it but have enough.

past injuries - I've had tendonitis in both elbows, both biceps, and left rotator cuff on and off for the past 4 years. This is mostly caused by my complete overuse between work and the long gym sessions daily. Took BPC-157 for 3 months which fixed it but once i came off it came right back. hasn't been a problem for around the past year as I've been more focused on recovery and sleep.

current sleep
trying to get 8 hours every night, usually around the 7-8 range, trying to get to the 9 hour range.

Stats
20 years old
5' 7"
162Lbs
around 11-13% BF

Current thought for cycle -
300 test e / week
100-150 EQ / week
4 iu hgh every day

(incase)
HCG on hand
AI on hand

Workout - push pull legs rest push pull rest rest repeat
For my weight and height, im a pretty strong person for a natural. I have a 6'2" wingspan at 5'7", so deadlift has always been pretty good. Stopped all compounds about a year ago. I can type out my full workout routine if its wanted, honestly to lazy to type ALL of that out unless it might give good insight. On most my machines im working on im close to if not at full stack. stopped doing lat pulldown after getting to 260 for 8 at 158 BW. I had a phase were i was more so focused on strength and explosiveness training, but am trying to go down to a little less weight and really focusing longer rep times with more leveled force output throughout the entire rep.

Goals - Looking to put on lean size, Legs aren't as much of a concern as they have been easy to grow in the past and seem to grow from literally anything. Main focus is Shoulders and chest, but just want overall size that is dry grainy and vascular. Wanting to gain around 10-15 pounds of lean muscle.


Morning

Multivitamin
ashwagandha
fish oil/ omega 3
GNC mens test booster(ik it doesn't "boost test" has some good stuff though)
Maca
B6
Semax nasal

Pre Workout

creatine
pre
electrolytes



Before bed

magnesium glycinate
calcium magnesium zinc
zinc
vitamin D3
welcome to the EVO family :D @bothbarrelsnsb I am not pro cycle for 20 year olds, but in your case you look amazing natty lean and hard and you have bloods which is rare.

can you agree to something with us? we will guide you and help you but you need to keep a training diet supplement log for next 4 weeks before we talk any gear, deal? :D this way we can see you get dialed in more natural and push up harder.

Please share more day to day information with us.

Diet, Training, Cardio
Diet, please share foods and meals and when you eat them, macros would be good
Training, please share actual exercises reps sets and weights, as you go especially get stronger
cardio how much do you do? when etc
If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Or use an app like myfitness pal or cronometer. Very easy.

supplements
Are you taking high doses Vitamin C?
what digestive supps you use?
digestive enzymes?
multis?
probiotics?
psyllium husk?

are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/evolutionary-bodybuilding-radio/id1798623410
https://open.spotify.com/show/53q1RFTgG4h6TQHsJ4xY6Z

did you download our eBooks?
https://irongorillas.com
 
This is my first log, I'm brand new to the forum. If you guys need anymore info please let me know. I've been working out around 6 years now and have always been consistent with eating and water intake. Sleep has always been something I've struggled with as in my first few years i was working 30 hours a week with a full 8 hour school day on top, whilst also training 2-3 hours daily. Safe to say, been focusing more so on sleep recently. Diet will be more locked and tracked once i start this cycle. Planning to run 5 meals prepped daily. I work 10 hours on Tuesday Wednesday Friday Saturday. So the plan is to prep all my meals for the week on Mondays and Thursdays. Don't have specific meals planned yet but goal is to be around 3000 calories with at least 200g protein and 350g carbs. Included bloodwork done a few days ago as well. Don't have to much on it but have enough.

past injuries - I've had tendonitis in both elbows, both biceps, and left rotator cuff on and off for the past 4 years. This is mostly caused by my complete overuse between work and the long gym sessions daily. Took BPC-157 for 3 months which fixed it but once i came off it came right back. hasn't been a problem for around the past year as I've been more focused on recovery and sleep.

current sleep
trying to get 8 hours every night, usually around the 7-8 range, trying to get to the 9 hour range.

Stats
20 years old
5' 7"
162Lbs
around 11-13% BF

Current thought for cycle -
300 test e / week
100-150 EQ / week
4 iu hgh every day

(incase)
HCG on hand
AI on hand

Workout - push pull legs rest push pull rest rest repeat
For my weight and height, im a pretty strong person for a natural. I have a 6'2" wingspan at 5'7", so deadlift has always been pretty good. Stopped all compounds about a year ago. I can type out my full workout routine if its wanted, honestly to lazy to type ALL of that out unless it might give good insight. On most my machines im working on im close to if not at full stack. stopped doing lat pulldown after getting to 260 for 8 at 158 BW. I had a phase were i was more so focused on strength and explosiveness training, but am trying to go down to a little less weight and really focusing longer rep times with more leveled force output throughout the entire rep.

Goals - Looking to put on lean size, Legs aren't as much of a concern as they have been easy to grow in the past and seem to grow from literally anything. Main focus is Shoulders and chest, but just want overall size that is dry grainy and vascular. Wanting to gain around 10-15 pounds of lean muscle.


Morning

Multivitamin
ashwagandha
fish oil/ omega 3
GNC mens test booster(ik it doesn't "boost test" has some good stuff though)
Maca
B6
Semax nasal

Pre Workout

creatine
pre
electrolytes



Before bed

magnesium glycinate
calcium magnesium zinc
zinc
vitamin D3
@bothbarrelsnsb This is going to be a fun log to follow for sure. Already, I can tell that you are an absolute beast. This is gonna be excellent. Looking forward to it.
 
This is my first log, I'm brand new to the forum. If you guys need anymore info please let me know. I've been working out around 6 years now and have always been consistent with eating and water intake. Sleep has always been something I've struggled with as in my first few years i was working 30 hours a week with a full 8 hour school day on top, whilst also training 2-3 hours daily. Safe to say, been focusing more so on sleep recently. Diet will be more locked and tracked once i start this cycle. Planning to run 5 meals prepped daily. I work 10 hours on Tuesday Wednesday Friday Saturday. So the plan is to prep all my meals for the week on Mondays and Thursdays. Don't have specific meals planned yet but goal is to be around 3000 calories with at least 200g protein and 350g carbs. Included bloodwork done a few days ago as well. Don't have to much on it but have enough.

past injuries - I've had tendonitis in both elbows, both biceps, and left rotator cuff on and off for the past 4 years. This is mostly caused by my complete overuse between work and the long gym sessions daily. Took BPC-157 for 3 months which fixed it but once i came off it came right back. hasn't been a problem for around the past year as I've been more focused on recovery and sleep.

current sleep
trying to get 8 hours every night, usually around the 7-8 range, trying to get to the 9 hour range.

Stats
20 years old
5' 7"
162Lbs
around 11-13% BF

Current thought for cycle -
300 test e / week
100-150 EQ / week
4 iu hgh every day

(incase)
HCG on hand
AI on hand

Workout - push pull legs rest push pull rest rest repeat
For my weight and height, im a pretty strong person for a natural. I have a 6'2" wingspan at 5'7", so deadlift has always been pretty good. Stopped all compounds about a year ago. I can type out my full workout routine if its wanted, honestly to lazy to type ALL of that out unless it might give good insight. On most my machines im working on im close to if not at full stack. stopped doing lat pulldown after getting to 260 for 8 at 158 BW. I had a phase were i was more so focused on strength and explosiveness training, but am trying to go down to a little less weight and really focusing longer rep times with more leveled force output throughout the entire rep.

Goals - Looking to put on lean size, Legs aren't as much of a concern as they have been easy to grow in the past and seem to grow from literally anything. Main focus is Shoulders and chest, but just want overall size that is dry grainy and vascular. Wanting to gain around 10-15 pounds of lean muscle.


Morning

Multivitamin
ashwagandha
fish oil/ omega 3
GNC mens test booster(ik it doesn't "boost test" has some good stuff though)
Maca
B6
Semax nasal

Pre Workout

creatine
pre
electrolytes



Before bed

magnesium glycinate
calcium magnesium zinc
zinc
vitamin D3
Bros, I like the different supplements you're using, but you can definitely get some improvements. Why not use hcGenerate instead of that GNC product. @bothbarrelsnsb
 
This is my first log, I'm brand new to the forum. If you guys need anymore info please let me know. I've been working out around 6 years now and have always been consistent with eating and water intake. Sleep has always been something I've struggled with as in my first few years i was working 30 hours a week with a full 8 hour school day on top, whilst also training 2-3 hours daily. Safe to say, been focusing more so on sleep recently. Diet will be more locked and tracked once i start this cycle. Planning to run 5 meals prepped daily. I work 10 hours on Tuesday Wednesday Friday Saturday. So the plan is to prep all my meals for the week on Mondays and Thursdays. Don't have specific meals planned yet but goal is to be around 3000 calories with at least 200g protein and 350g carbs. Included bloodwork done a few days ago as well. Don't have to much on it but have enough.

past injuries - I've had tendonitis in both elbows, both biceps, and left rotator cuff on and off for the past 4 years. This is mostly caused by my complete overuse between work and the long gym sessions daily. Took BPC-157 for 3 months which fixed it but once i came off it came right back. hasn't been a problem for around the past year as I've been more focused on recovery and sleep.

current sleep
trying to get 8 hours every night, usually around the 7-8 range, trying to get to the 9 hour range.

Stats
20 years old
5' 7"
162Lbs
around 11-13% BF

Current thought for cycle -
300 test e / week
100-150 EQ / week
4 iu hgh every day

(incase)
HCG on hand
AI on hand

Workout - push pull legs rest push pull rest rest repeat
For my weight and height, im a pretty strong person for a natural. I have a 6'2" wingspan at 5'7", so deadlift has always been pretty good. Stopped all compounds about a year ago. I can type out my full workout routine if its wanted, honestly to lazy to type ALL of that out unless it might give good insight. On most my machines im working on im close to if not at full stack. stopped doing lat pulldown after getting to 260 for 8 at 158 BW. I had a phase were i was more so focused on strength and explosiveness training, but am trying to go down to a little less weight and really focusing longer rep times with more leveled force output throughout the entire rep.

Goals - Looking to put on lean size, Legs aren't as much of a concern as they have been easy to grow in the past and seem to grow from literally anything. Main focus is Shoulders and chest, but just want overall size that is dry grainy and vascular. Wanting to gain around 10-15 pounds of lean muscle.


Morning

Multivitamin
ashwagandha
fish oil/ omega 3
GNC mens test booster(ik it doesn't "boost test" has some good stuff though)
Maca
B6
Semax nasal

Pre Workout

creatine
pre
electrolytes



Before bed

magnesium glycinate
calcium magnesium zinc
zinc
vitamin D3
Nice, man, I wonder how that SeMax is doing for ya. @bothbarrelsnsb I know a lot of people are experimenting with these different compounds. Is it helping with your energy, sleep, anything else?
 
This is my first log, I'm brand new to the forum. If you guys need anymore info please let me know. I've been working out around 6 years now and have always been consistent with eating and water intake. Sleep has always been something I've struggled with as in my first few years i was working 30 hours a week with a full 8 hour school day on top, whilst also training 2-3 hours daily. Safe to say, been focusing more so on sleep recently. Diet will be more locked and tracked once i start this cycle. Planning to run 5 meals prepped daily. I work 10 hours on Tuesday Wednesday Friday Saturday. So the plan is to prep all my meals for the week on Mondays and Thursdays. Don't have specific meals planned yet but goal is to be around 3000 calories with at least 200g protein and 350g carbs. Included bloodwork done a few days ago as well. Don't have to much on it but have enough.

past injuries - I've had tendonitis in both elbows, both biceps, and left rotator cuff on and off for the past 4 years. This is mostly caused by my complete overuse between work and the long gym sessions daily. Took BPC-157 for 3 months which fixed it but once i came off it came right back. hasn't been a problem for around the past year as I've been more focused on recovery and sleep.

current sleep
trying to get 8 hours every night, usually around the 7-8 range, trying to get to the 9 hour range.

Stats
20 years old
5' 7"
162Lbs
around 11-13% BF

Current thought for cycle -
300 test e / week
100-150 EQ / week
4 iu hgh every day

(incase)
HCG on hand
AI on hand

Workout - push pull legs rest push pull rest rest repeat
For my weight and height, im a pretty strong person for a natural. I have a 6'2" wingspan at 5'7", so deadlift has always been pretty good. Stopped all compounds about a year ago. I can type out my full workout routine if its wanted, honestly to lazy to type ALL of that out unless it might give good insight. On most my machines im working on im close to if not at full stack. stopped doing lat pulldown after getting to 260 for 8 at 158 BW. I had a phase were i was more so focused on strength and explosiveness training, but am trying to go down to a little less weight and really focusing longer rep times with more leveled force output throughout the entire rep.

Goals - Looking to put on lean size, Legs aren't as much of a concern as they have been easy to grow in the past and seem to grow from literally anything. Main focus is Shoulders and chest, but just want overall size that is dry grainy and vascular. Wanting to gain around 10-15 pounds of lean muscle.


Morning

Multivitamin
ashwagandha
fish oil/ omega 3
GNC mens test booster(ik it doesn't "boost test" has some good stuff though)
Maca
B6
Semax nasal

Pre Workout

creatine
pre
electrolytes



Before bed

magnesium glycinate
calcium magnesium zinc
zinc
vitamin D3
@bothbarrelsnsb Terrific layout of what your supplements look like in the morning pre-workout and before bed. Thanks for taking the time to post the whole list.
 
This is my first log, I'm brand new to the forum. If you guys need anymore info please let me know. I've been working out around 6 years now and have always been consistent with eating and water intake. Sleep has always been something I've struggled with as in my first few years i was working 30 hours a week with a full 8 hour school day on top, whilst also training 2-3 hours daily. Safe to say, been focusing more so on sleep recently. Diet will be more locked and tracked once i start this cycle. Planning to run 5 meals prepped daily. I work 10 hours on Tuesday Wednesday Friday Saturday. So the plan is to prep all my meals for the week on Mondays and Thursdays. Don't have specific meals planned yet but goal is to be around 3000 calories with at least 200g protein and 350g carbs. Included bloodwork done a few days ago as well. Don't have to much on it but have enough.

past injuries - I've had tendonitis in both elbows, both biceps, and left rotator cuff on and off for the past 4 years. This is mostly caused by my complete overuse between work and the long gym sessions daily. Took BPC-157 for 3 months which fixed it but once i came off it came right back. hasn't been a problem for around the past year as I've been more focused on recovery and sleep.

current sleep
trying to get 8 hours every night, usually around the 7-8 range, trying to get to the 9 hour range.

Stats
20 years old
5' 7"
162Lbs
around 11-13% BF

Current thought for cycle -
300 test e / week
100-150 EQ / week
4 iu hgh every day

(incase)
HCG on hand
AI on hand

Workout - push pull legs rest push pull rest rest repeat
For my weight and height, im a pretty strong person for a natural. I have a 6'2" wingspan at 5'7", so deadlift has always been pretty good. Stopped all compounds about a year ago. I can type out my full workout routine if its wanted, honestly to lazy to type ALL of that out unless it might give good insight. On most my machines im working on im close to if not at full stack. stopped doing lat pulldown after getting to 260 for 8 at 158 BW. I had a phase were i was more so focused on strength and explosiveness training, but am trying to go down to a little less weight and really focusing longer rep times with more leveled force output throughout the entire rep.

Goals - Looking to put on lean size, Legs aren't as much of a concern as they have been easy to grow in the past and seem to grow from literally anything. Main focus is Shoulders and chest, but just want overall size that is dry grainy and vascular. Wanting to gain around 10-15 pounds of lean muscle.


Morning

Multivitamin
ashwagandha
fish oil/ omega 3
GNC mens test booster(ik it doesn't "boost test" has some good stuff though)
Maca
B6
Semax nasal

Pre Workout

creatine
pre
electrolytes



Before bed

magnesium glycinate
calcium magnesium zinc
zinc
vitamin D3
Nice to see you with this fresh log. I think going with less weight is not a bad idea. As I've gotten older, I realize you don't have to go in there like Ronnie Coleman and throw around heavyweights. @bothbarrelsnsb
 
This is my first log, I'm brand new to the forum. If you guys need anymore info please let me know. I've been working out around 6 years now and have always been consistent with eating and water intake. Sleep has always been something I've struggled with as in my first few years i was working 30 hours a week with a full 8 hour school day on top, whilst also training 2-3 hours daily. Safe to say, been focusing more so on sleep recently. Diet will be more locked and tracked once i start this cycle. Planning to run 5 meals prepped daily. I work 10 hours on Tuesday Wednesday Friday Saturday. So the plan is to prep all my meals for the week on Mondays and Thursdays. Don't have specific meals planned yet but goal is to be around 3000 calories with at least 200g protein and 350g carbs. Included bloodwork done a few days ago as well. Don't have to much on it but have enough.

past injuries - I've had tendonitis in both elbows, both biceps, and left rotator cuff on and off for the past 4 years. This is mostly caused by my complete overuse between work and the long gym sessions daily. Took BPC-157 for 3 months which fixed it but once i came off it came right back. hasn't been a problem for around the past year as I've been more focused on recovery and sleep.

current sleep
trying to get 8 hours every night, usually around the 7-8 range, trying to get to the 9 hour range.

Stats
20 years old
5' 7"
162Lbs
around 11-13% BF

Current thought for cycle -
300 test e / week
100-150 EQ / week
4 iu hgh every day

(incase)
HCG on hand
AI on hand

Workout - push pull legs rest push pull rest rest repeat
For my weight and height, im a pretty strong person for a natural. I have a 6'2" wingspan at 5'7", so deadlift has always been pretty good. Stopped all compounds about a year ago. I can type out my full workout routine if its wanted, honestly to lazy to type ALL of that out unless it might give good insight. On most my machines im working on im close to if not at full stack. stopped doing lat pulldown after getting to 260 for 8 at 158 BW. I had a phase were i was more so focused on strength and explosiveness training, but am trying to go down to a little less weight and really focusing longer rep times with more leveled force output throughout the entire rep.

Goals - Looking to put on lean size, Legs aren't as much of a concern as they have been easy to grow in the past and seem to grow from literally anything. Main focus is Shoulders and chest, but just want overall size that is dry grainy and vascular. Wanting to gain around 10-15 pounds of lean muscle.


Morning

Multivitamin
ashwagandha
fish oil/ omega 3
GNC mens test booster(ik it doesn't "boost test" has some good stuff though)
Maca
B6
Semax nasal

Pre Workout

creatine
pre
electrolytes



Before bed

magnesium glycinate
calcium magnesium zinc
zinc
vitamin D3
@bothbarrelsnsb looking amazing for natural bro! Awesome work!
 
This is my first log, I'm brand new to the forum. If you guys need anymore info please let me know. I've been working out around 6 years now and have always been consistent with eating and water intake. Sleep has always been something I've struggled with as in my first few years i was working 30 hours a week with a full 8 hour school day on top, whilst also training 2-3 hours daily. Safe to say, been focusing more so on sleep recently. Diet will be more locked and tracked once i start this cycle. Planning to run 5 meals prepped daily. I work 10 hours on Tuesday Wednesday Friday Saturday. So the plan is to prep all my meals for the week on Mondays and Thursdays. Don't have specific meals planned yet but goal is to be around 3000 calories with at least 200g protein and 350g carbs. Included bloodwork done a few days ago as well. Don't have to much on it but have enough.

past injuries - I've had tendonitis in both elbows, both biceps, and left rotator cuff on and off for the past 4 years. This is mostly caused by my complete overuse between work and the long gym sessions daily. Took BPC-157 for 3 months which fixed it but once i came off it came right back. hasn't been a problem for around the past year as I've been more focused on recovery and sleep.

current sleep
trying to get 8 hours every night, usually around the 7-8 range, trying to get to the 9 hour range.

Stats
20 years old
5' 7"
162Lbs
around 11-13% BF

Current thought for cycle -
300 test e / week
100-150 EQ / week
4 iu hgh every day

(incase)
HCG on hand
AI on hand

Workout - push pull legs rest push pull rest rest repeat
For my weight and height, im a pretty strong person for a natural. I have a 6'2" wingspan at 5'7", so deadlift has always been pretty good. Stopped all compounds about a year ago. I can type out my full workout routine if its wanted, honestly to lazy to type ALL of that out unless it might give good insight. On most my machines im working on im close to if not at full stack. stopped doing lat pulldown after getting to 260 for 8 at 158 BW. I had a phase were i was more so focused on strength and explosiveness training, but am trying to go down to a little less weight and really focusing longer rep times with more leveled force output throughout the entire rep.

Goals - Looking to put on lean size, Legs aren't as much of a concern as they have been easy to grow in the past and seem to grow from literally anything. Main focus is Shoulders and chest, but just want overall size that is dry grainy and vascular. Wanting to gain around 10-15 pounds of lean muscle.


Morning

Multivitamin
ashwagandha
fish oil/ omega 3
GNC mens test booster(ik it doesn't "boost test" has some good stuff though)
Maca
B6
Semax nasal

Pre Workout

creatine
pre
electrolytes



Before bed

magnesium glycinate
calcium magnesium zinc
zinc
vitamin D3
@bothbarrelsns looking great man. Top tier physique brother
 
Nice, man, I wonder how that SeMax is doing for ya. @bothbarrelsnsb I know a lot of people are experimenting with these different compounds. Is it helping with your energy, sleep, anything else?
honestly, helps me wake up real quick in the morning, used to drink an energy dirnk to wake up quick for work but 500 mcg of semax nasally wakes me right up
 
honestly, helps me wake up real quick in the morning, used to drink an energy dirnk to wake up quick for work but 500 mcg of semax nasally wakes me right up
so you like semax in place of coffee more then you like mots-c?

and you rather do the nasdal and not injections?
 
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