New member Intro

Le4ned · Sunday at 8:54 AM

Pleasure to be a new member of the Evo fam.

Lurking for a while and hopping in with a
1st post here so please do let me know how to get started, any missing info, things to consider etc etc.

Still fairly new to this game, consider me a student trying to absorb any knowledge from the vets or anyone willing to contribute.

5’11”
87.6kg
Mid-way through the off season growth.
Third cycle.

400test e
500 eq
Pinned 4xpw

2mg Reta 1xpw

12.5mg aromasin 2xpw

Macros - temp
200C
65F
160P
(Recent trip to Bali added some extra softness hence the reduced cals for a couple weeks)

Moving to
400C
55F
200P
For the remainder of the Growth.

Bloods will come in a couple of weeks and happy to share.

Last Bloodwork run end of Cut (December) had everything in the green.
Finished up at 77 kg around 8 or 9%

I’m not out here to compete. Rec bodybuilder who enjoys the challenge and physical/mental journey of lifting and bodybuilding while trying to stay as healthy as I can.

Question to put forward, is adding in GH beneficial to finish out the growth moving into a cut? I understand it’s a long term situation at a low dose, is 1 or 2 IU going to have any real effect on fat loss / sleep / metabolism / something I’ve missed or would I be better off looking at a Mots C / NAD or similar combination?

toddthelineman · Sunday at 9:14 AM

Le4ned said:
400test e
500 eq

Le4ned said:
12.5mg aromasin 2xpw

Le4ned said:
is adding in GH beneficial to finish out the growth moving into a cut?

Welcome! Looks like you’ve got a decent grasp on what you’re doing.

You don’t figure your e2 is too low with all that eq and aromasin as well? Interesting

IMO, GH at a low dose is good for anything and everything. It just makes everything better. You really can’t go wrong.

Le4ned · Sunday at 9:27 AM

Running similar dose of masteron in the past still had e2 higher than ideal range hence the ai. My understanding is that mast limits the aromatizing more so than EQ so I’ve kept the aromasin in.

Le4ned · Sunday at 9:28 AM

I’d be happy to get all of this into a log of sorts just trying to navigate it all and figure out exactly how

toddthelineman · Sunday at 9:30 AM

Le4ned said:
Running similar dose of masteron in the past still had e2 higher than ideal range hence the ai. My understanding is that mast limits the aromatizing more so than EQ so I’ve kept the aromasin in.

We see different people have different results. I had 0 ai effect from masteron and the combination of high e2 and the dht caused me terrible body acne. Quite a few have crushed their e2 with eq though. But not everyone. I haven’t tried it yet

toddthelineman · Sunday at 9:34 AM

Le4ned said:
I’d be happy to get all of this into a log of sorts just trying to navigate it all and figure out exactly how

@LevButlerov will surely drop in soon with guidance for starting your log

Le4ned · Sunday at 9:41 AM

toddthelineman said:
We see different people have different results. I had 0 ai effect from masteron and the combination of high e2 and the dht caused me terrible body acne. Quite a few have crushed their e2 with eq though. But not everyone. I haven’t tried it yet

Interesting!
I guess everything “feels” fine, that hasn’t caused any urgency to pull some blood work.

In saying that I’m more aware of high e2 sides rather than what to look for when e2 tanks.
Will run these bloods and share up as they come through

stevesmi · Sunday at 11:11 AM

Le4ned said:
Pleasure to be a new member of the Evo fam.

Lurking for a while and hopping in with a
1st post here so please do let me know how to get started, any missing info, things to consider etc etc.

Still fairly new to this game, consider me a student trying to absorb any knowledge from the vets or anyone willing to contribute.

5’11”
87.6kg
Mid-way through the off season growth.
Third cycle.

400test e
500 eq
Pinned 4xpw

2mg Reta 1xpw

12.5mg aromasin 2xpw

Macros - temp
200C
65F
160P
(Recent trip to Bali added some extra softness hence the reduced cals for a couple weeks)

Moving to
400C
55F
200P
For the remainder of the Growth.

Bloods will come in a couple of weeks and happy to share.

Last Bloodwork run end of Cut (December) had everything in the green.
Finished up at 77 kg around 8 or 9%

I’m not out here to compete. Rec bodybuilder who enjoys the challenge and physical/mental journey of lifting and bodybuilding while trying to stay as healthy as I can.

Question to put forward, is adding in GH beneficial to finish out the growth moving into a cut? I understand it’s a long term situation at a low dose, is 1 or 2 IU going to have any real effect on fat loss / sleep / metabolism / something I’ve missed or would I be better off looking at a Mots C / NAD or similar combination?

great start to this log. i look forward to following it. so far you look A+ and a solid base

Allupfromhere · Sunday at 11:32 AM

Le4ned said:
Pleasure to be a new member of the Evo fam.

Lurking for a while and hopping in with a
1st post here so please do let me know how to get started, any missing info, things to consider etc etc.

Still fairly new to this game, consider me a student trying to absorb any knowledge from the vets or anyone willing to contribute.

5’11”
87.6kg
Mid-way through the off season growth.
Third cycle.

400test e
500 eq
Pinned 4xpw

2mg Reta 1xpw

12.5mg aromasin 2xpw

Macros - temp
200C
65F
160P
(Recent trip to Bali added some extra softness hence the reduced cals for a couple weeks)

Moving to
400C
55F
200P
For the remainder of the Growth.

Bloods will come in a couple of weeks and happy to share.

Last Bloodwork run end of Cut (December) had everything in the green.
Finished up at 77 kg around 8 or 9%

I’m not out here to compete. Rec bodybuilder who enjoys the challenge and physical/mental journey of lifting and bodybuilding while trying to stay as healthy as I can.

Question to put forward, is adding in GH beneficial to finish out the growth moving into a cut? I understand it’s a long term situation at a low dose, is 1 or 2 IU going to have any real effect on fat loss / sleep / metabolism / something I’ve missed or would I be better off looking at a Mots C / NAD or similar combination?

Nice work brother and welcome! Yeah i feel gh still will provide benifits at this stage even around the 2iu mark

Le4ned said:
Running similar dose of masteron in the past still had e2 higher than ideal range hence the ai. My understanding is that mast limits the aromatizing more so than EQ so I’ve kept the aromasin in.

Carefull with this brother, eq and mast have very different responses when it comes to their relationship with e2.

Having a look at your current protocol i strongly erge you to get some lcms bloodwork done and see. You may feel fine but you could also be leaving a heap of benifits and gains on the table with hammered e2. Just food for thought brother

Kopite67 · Sunday at 3:28 PM

Le4ned said:
Pleasure to be a new member of the Evo fam.

Lurking for a while and hopping in with a
1st post here so please do let me know how to get started, any missing info, things to consider etc etc.

Still fairly new to this game, consider me a student trying to absorb any knowledge from the vets or anyone willing to contribute.

5’11”
87.6kg
Mid-way through the off season growth.
Third cycle.

400test e
500 eq
Pinned 4xpw

2mg Reta 1xpw

12.5mg aromasin 2xpw

Macros - temp
200C
65F
160P
(Recent trip to Bali added some extra softness hence the reduced cals for a couple weeks)

Moving to
400C
55F
200P
For the remainder of the Growth.

Bloods will come in a couple of weeks and happy to share.

Last Bloodwork run end of Cut (December) had everything in the green.
Finished up at 77 kg around 8 or 9%

I’m not out here to compete. Rec bodybuilder who enjoys the challenge and physical/mental journey of lifting and bodybuilding while trying to stay as healthy as I can.

Question to put forward, is adding in GH beneficial to finish out the growth moving into a cut? I understand it’s a long term situation at a low dose, is 1 or 2 IU going to have any real effect on fat loss / sleep / metabolism / something I’ve missed or would I be better off looking at a Mots C / NAD or similar combination?

Welcome to Evo brother. Really need to see your bloodwork before I can comment on where you need to go next. Eq affects people differently as has been outlined by my esteemed brothers so that would be a take it slowly approach.
GH is always a good thing at 2iu as @Allupfromhere and @toddthelineman have already mentioned.
Once again welcome, I look forward to following your journey once we have a bit more information

LevButlerov · Sunday at 7:31 PM

Le4ned said:
Pleasure to be a new member of the Evo fam.

Lurking for a while and hopping in with a
1st post here so please do let me know how to get started, any missing info, things to consider etc etc.

Still fairly new to this game, consider me a student trying to absorb any knowledge from the vets or anyone willing to contribute.

5’11”
87.6kg
Mid-way through the off season growth.
Third cycle.

400test e
500 eq
Pinned 4xpw

2mg Reta 1xpw

12.5mg aromasin 2xpw

Macros - temp
200C
65F
160P
(Recent trip to Bali added some extra softness hence the reduced cals for a couple weeks)

Moving to
400C
55F
200P
For the remainder of the Growth.

Bloods will come in a couple of weeks and happy to share.

Last Bloodwork run end of Cut (December) had everything in the green.
Finished up at 77 kg around 8 or 9%

I’m not out here to compete. Rec bodybuilder who enjoys the challenge and physical/mental journey of lifting and bodybuilding while trying to stay as healthy as I can.

Question to put forward, is adding in GH beneficial to finish out the growth moving into a cut? I understand it’s a long term situation at a low dose, is 1 or 2 IU going to have any real effect on fat loss / sleep / metabolism / something I’ve missed or would I be better off looking at a Mots C / NAD or similar combination?

Le4ned said:
Running similar dose of masteron in the past still had e2 higher than ideal range hence the ai. My understanding is that mast limits the aromatizing more so than EQ so I’ve kept the aromasin in.

Le4ned said:
I’d be happy to get all of this into a log of sorts just trying to navigate it all and figure out exactly how

welcome to the EVO family

@Le4ned you look good, lean and strong in the pic!
Start a log now because without day to day food, training weights, sleep, BP, and weekly bodyweight we are guessing and you will keep spinning your wheels. Post it today with your stats, current dose and pin days, cals and macros, main lifts, and your latest bloods so the EVO family can actually dial you in and keep you progressing. 15mins to start

HOW-TO LOG?

Why is a Log Journal important?

Doing a log will actually help you way more than just dropping random updates. When you lay it all out week by week you start to see patterns in your body that you won’t catch otherwise.
Other guys here run logs all the time and there’s no privacy issue, nobody is asking for your name or anything personal, it is just training, diet, and how the compound feels.
The feedback you get is also way better because people can follow along and spot things you might miss. It also helps the next guy who is thinking about running the same compound so you are giving back while you learn.
Even if you think you might not stick with it, just starting the log makes it easier to come back and add quick notes. That way you get more out of what you are running instead of keeping it all in your head.

To really guide you we need more info from you:

Please share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us in a NEW thread, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.
It will take 15-20 minutes max.
We have 100s of years of experience between us, so you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.
Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Le4ned · Sunday at 8:58 PM

LevButlerov said:
welcome to the EVO family @Le4ned you look good, lean and strong in the pic!
Start a log now because without day to day food, training weights, sleep, BP, and weekly bodyweight we are guessing and you will keep spinning your wheels. Post it today with your stats, current dose and pin days, cals and macros, main lifts, and your latest bloods so the EVO family can actually dial you in and keep you progressing. 15mins to start

HOW-TO LOG?

Why is a Log Journal important?

Doing a log will actually help you way more than just dropping random updates. When you lay it all out week by week you start to see patterns in your body that you won’t catch otherwise.

Other guys here run logs all the time and there’s no privacy issue, nobody is asking for your name or anything personal, it is just training, diet, and how the compound feels.

The feedback you get is also way better because people can follow along and spot things you might miss. It also helps the next guy who is thinking about running the same compound so you are giving back while you learn.

Even if you think you might not stick with it, just starting the log makes it easier to come back and add quick notes. That way you get more out of what you are running instead of keeping it all in your head.

To really guide you we need more info from you:

Please share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us in a NEW thread, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.

It will take 15-20 minutes max.

We have 100s of years of experience between us, so you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My testosterone eq cycle Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here are examples of LOG Journals
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/first-testosterone-cycle-log.104133/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/sustanon-trenomast-deca-dbol-cycle-journal.105881/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-2025-26-growth-phase-log-with-psl.106514/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...var-bpc157-beligas-pharmaqo-cycle-log.104843/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...g-log-sponsored-by-purity-source-labs.103669/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...erone-cycle-and-beginner-training-log.106310/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/average-trt-back-to-savage-cycle-journal.106252
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...-testosterone-masteron-primobolan-deca.105348
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...odybuilding-log-masters-55-competitor.102611/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...ron-npp-tren-anadrol-log-to-stage-2025.102590

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Awesome! Thanks for the pointers all!

I’ll get around to this today

HarleyGuy · Sunday at 11:17 PM

Le4ned said:
Pleasure to be a new member of the Evo fam.

Lurking for a while and hopping in with a
1st post here so please do let me know how to get started, any missing info, things to consider etc etc.

Still fairly new to this game, consider me a student trying to absorb any knowledge from the vets or anyone willing to contribute.

5’11”
87.6kg
Mid-way through the off season growth.
Third cycle.

400test e
500 eq
Pinned 4xpw

2mg Reta 1xpw

12.5mg aromasin 2xpw

Macros - temp
200C
65F
160P
(Recent trip to Bali added some extra softness hence the reduced cals for a couple weeks)

Moving to
400C
55F
200P
For the remainder of the Growth.

Bloods will come in a couple of weeks and happy to share.

Last Bloodwork run end of Cut (December) had everything in the green.
Finished up at 77 kg around 8 or 9%

I’m not out here to compete. Rec bodybuilder who enjoys the challenge and physical/mental journey of lifting and bodybuilding while trying to stay as healthy as I can.

Question to put forward, is adding in GH beneficial to finish out the growth moving into a cut? I understand it’s a long term situation at a low dose, is 1 or 2 IU going to have any real effect on fat loss / sleep / metabolism / something I’ve missed or would I be better off looking at a Mots C / NAD or similar combination?

Great first log post and welcome to the EVO Family and to EVO Logging brother!

Glad you had a good trip in Bali and now want to go hard. Let's get a couple weeks of log updates going and we'll guide you from there. @LevButlerov will be all over it don't you worry.

Le4ned said:
Question to put forward, is adding in GH beneficial to finish out the growth moving into a cut?

It will be beneficial if you plan on using it for the rest of 2026 at least.

LevButlerov · Monday at 7:23 AM

Le4ned said:
Awesome! Thanks for the pointers all!

I’ll get around to this today

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