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Aesthetics or Mass?

6 percent is shredded not 10. I was natty 7-8 percent during wrestling season always


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when you are in high school most guys can eat big macs and taco bell and still stay under 10%. not really an accomplishment.. don't think that its that easy when you get older because its not .. in your 30's and 40's yes 10% body fat is shredded.. maybe not contest shredded but its pretty damn shredded compared to 99.9% of others that age.. add to that the stress of having a family, career, business, and bills. its easy when you are a teen and living mommy's basement, wait till you have your own bills working 60 hour work weeks and see if its so easy to be at 7% sport
 
when you are in high school most guys can eat big macs and taco bell and still stay under 10%. not really an accomplishment.. don't think that its that easy when you get older because its not .. in your 30's and 40's yes 10% body fat is shredded.. maybe not contest shredded but its pretty damn shredded compared to 99.9% of others that age.. add to that the stress of having a family, career, business, and bills. its easy when you are a teen and living mommy's basement, wait till you have your own bills working 60 hour work weeks and see if its so easy to be at 7% sport

Lol, if it was easy everyone would be shredded. It's funny because I see more guys get in phenomenal shape when they get close to retirement but between 35-50 its harder to find. Cortisol is a cold hearted mofo. I'm lucky to be in my mid 20's and single with a good job. Not a whole lot to stress about.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKq8hflZBh4

I dont know if he's Indian or Arab but I think he's got a really well balanced, muscular physique with a tiny waist ( an increasingly rare quality in the world of BB). If I had a goal that I strive to achieve it'd be something similar to this chap, but I wouldn't go below 10% at 180lbs. Not because I'm lazy, but because 10% Bf gives an endomorph like myself enough room to enjoy a beer now and then and eat out without the constant worry and fear of counting calories, dieting half the time and losing the shredded look. 10% is easy to live with compared to a 6%. I'm assuming the guy in the video is around 5-6% judging by the striations on his pecs and vascularity in his arms.
 
when you are in high school most guys can eat big macs and taco bell and still stay under 10%. not really an accomplishment.. don't think that its that easy when you get older because its not .. in your 30's and 40's yes 10% body fat is shredded.. maybe not contest shredded but its pretty damn shredded compared to 99.9% of others that age.. add to that the stress of having a family, career, business, and bills. its easy when you are a teen and living mommy's basement, wait till you have your own bills working 60 hour work weeks and see if its so easy to be at 7% sport

Well Said Steve. If it was an easy thing to maintain all throughout your life, then surely a helluva lotta more people would be looking like that.
 
Well if u have 2 iu's of growth and ur 40 u should be able to have some descent size then if ur running some gear in there ur hormones will be able to do wat they need with adequate training


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Well if u have 2 iu's of growth and ur 40 u should be able to have some descent size then if ur running some gear in there ur hormones will be able to do wat they need with adequate training


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my point is there is going to come many points in your life where training doesn't come first.

I know a lot of friends who have kids and the baby is up all night crying and they gotta be in the office at 8am.. good luck finding time to train during that

now with me I am a sick fuck in the head, so no matter the shit that has gotten thrown at me I still find time to workout. but 99% of people out there are not like that.. I actually was living out of a truck last spring and still worked out during all that
 
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I deem myself to be reasonably dedicated and the only things that have ever prevented me from training was illness, injury and finances. So, when I finally had enough cash at hand, I bought the materials to build my own setup at home. Now I don't need to pay exuberant fees to be able to train. However, as far as illness and injury are concerned, unfortunately, they need to be entertained.

It's true, if you do not have the typical family life setup, then you DO in fact have less things placing a constraint on your training. Even though I still train, if, for instance, my daughter is sick at home, I train, and in the same house, not even away from home in a commercial gym, BUUUUT, I still lack the TOTAL focus I would have had, had she not been sick. Silly example, I know, but real life as far as I am concerned.
 
Hmmm ... we have gone off topic again. Aesthetics or Mass? Personally, if I could eat what would be required for absolute solid, dense mass, I would.
 
Estep was a monster:

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Interesting thread I've enjoyed reading every post as new guy here I feel I've become more aquinted. Love this place thank MT p


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Roger Estep

He looks awesome an example of total package I'm sure be easy to rip up that grand frame and look even more asthetic . Asthetic literally implies pleasing to the eye . I think every one wants to vs pleasing but beauty is in the eye of each beholder . If I woke up and looked like jay cutler I'd commit suicide cuz I think freaky huge looks good only on others, yet I'm. 5'11" 265 at 6% -8 % year round at 50 . Which is sort of large but I'm good with it my waist is 32. I hate the blocky look I get called jacked but not sure if it's always intended as compliment


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Truer words have never been spoken. My old ass has nothing to lie about, and I've posted multiple photos in the members pics thread. Most on this forum have not.

The way I see it, I'll always be training to increase my lifts because that's what's most important to me. At least as long as my body allows me too, and then I'll change my programming to achieve a different set of goals. I have no plans to sport a banana hammock and flex for folks onstage, but I can understand and respect those that are inclined to do so.


LMAO - I have competed in past, but I too hate the idea of flexing for display and wearing speedos I think it's plain weird and I'd never do it again , I train a ton of kids that compete and I can't stand when they jump up pull their sweats down and flex in mirror for all, I feel embarrassed for them. I been on forums almost 2 decades and there are pix of me floating around but since I've at times been deeply involved in the community so to speak , I orefer to keep my identity private like my avatar is me , I actually do portray what polish rifle says lol. Hey even ten years ago on the dating sites chicks refused to bejieve me as I don't lie and most people do - no matter how many picture I posted or sent they disbelieve because they thought I was a model lol/ so I took as compliment but hurt my chances lol. Rifle is correct if anyone remembers a popular female member if this community from 2005-13 owned several forums I actually was first to tell her that he pictures were fake only because fir years she posted pix of professional competition female and I met the real person and we began chatting over the internet stuff and the subject came up. Initially no one supported my allegations and I was demoted from super mod an banned from her forums - two years later the secret broke , I get emails of apologies she disappears . That is extreme version of internet dishonesty . Anyway crazy stuff rifle you reminded me of lol . If I had too I got pix but for many reasons including my present and past careers I can't afford to be recognized but I used to post all the time as like rifle I used that to see who was genuine .

Great thread !


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Aesthetics for me.

As for bf%. A lot of people say they are 10% and are probably a bit higher. This is my below last time I measured I was 9.7%

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Lookin good bro ! Carry on . To all- you know who you are all that matters. Im seeing the smiley and like my avatar I am always weary of being recognized , be careful if you are deeply involved in community . ORD never forget


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