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Probably the funniest video I have ever watched on Youtube lol 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rGDz5b9y2g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rGDz5b9y2g
Gruntwerkz
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Lol good video, enjoyed the humor in it too.
That was quite the informative video. But Trevor seemed to have been on the fence the whole time.
Too, Geneza Pharmaceutical's anavar happens to be Napsgear.org's and Promedications.cc's 50% off "Product of the Week," fifty 10mg tablets for $37. (Sale price valid through Sunday, October 7, 2018.)
Too, Geneza Pharmaceutical's anavar happens to be Napsgear.org's and Promedications.cc's 50% off "Product of the Week," fifty 10mg tablets for $37. (Sale price valid through Sunday, October 7, 2018.)
Gruntwerkz
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I have a good domestic source that charges 60$ for 50 of the 50mg pills. That’s pretty killer but I’ve only used his a couple times. Pretty good considering one packet is a 6 week cycle for 60$.
Given that the cost of a kilo of the raw powder from which anavar is derived is approximately, $1,200, I don't see how any lab and/or source could possibly turn a profit by selling 2500mgs of 'var for $60. So I'd be quite leery about that 'var.
Gruntwerkz
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Not sure, could be under dosed for sure as it wasn’t as good as British dragon.
Lab max was good on it too, but that doesn’t rule out there wasn’t another compound in it. Considering labmax only picks up the one compound.
Gruntwerkz
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I’m also not sure the fella I speak of is looking to turn a huge profit.
He sells his test for 25$ a vial year round, and labs were dose dependent good as well as plenty of other people. Grated these is cheap regardless but still that’s the best I’ve seen it.
Also HU Pharma sells the anavar raw which I believe their products to be legit based on what I’ve used, and it’s 80$ for 10 grams of powder. That’s 8$ for a gram so 2,500mg would be 20$ at that math from this raw supplier.
Still the seller screws himself once you add binders and your time pressing and mainly risk.
He sells his test for 25$ a vial year round, and labs were dose dependent good as well as plenty of other people. Grated these is cheap regardless but still that’s the best I’ve seen it.
Also HU Pharma sells the anavar raw which I believe their products to be legit based on what I’ve used, and it’s 80$ for 10 grams of powder. That’s 8$ for a gram so 2,500mg would be 20$ at that math from this raw supplier.
Still the seller screws himself once you add binders and your time pressing and mainly risk.
gashred777
Cyborg Humanoid Brother
Why don't you like DHT compounds? Anavar is actually one of the safest steroids in terms of hair loss
i fucking hate anavar...
sisir012
Advanced Cyborg Brother
Just for hair loss issue other wise its very good
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No, gashred, I use Dragon Pharma. I didn’t even know that British Dragon was still around. In fact, I thought it had been busted and put out of business more than ten years ago. I guess I was wrong again.
So you like British Dragon’s ‘var, gashred?
gashred777
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My apologies, I meant Dragon Pharma. I’ve not tried it yet, but you’ve seemed to have great success with it being fully legitimate and fully dosed.
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Gruntwerkz
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I’ve used them from naps gear, also used Geneza but I cannot use Geneza injectables, they use something that gives me insane pip. I’m talking whole leg swells up, maybe it’s because they use MCT oil - I dunno but it wrecks me.
BD on the other hand has always been kind to me too, they were my goto before trying other smaller sources and labs like PSL or small domestic sources.
gashred777
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Yes, I alternate between Dragon Pharms’s ‘var and Geneva Pharmaceutical’s ‘var. And, although I am very disciplined with respect to diet and training, those two brands of ‘var shred me quite nicely. It is also the case that, as an ectomorph, It’s quite easy for me to shred. So…
gashred777
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Do you alternate Test E between those 2 as well?
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Gruntwerkz
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I’ve been using a small domestic source lately, at least for my test needs. 25$ a vial with 10$ shipping, great blood work. I stocked up because he had a sale by 2 get 1 free when he opened, so for every 2 vials of T you got a free one. That worked out to 50$ for 3 vials of T cyp so I couldn’t pass it up.
I’ll still use BD for exotic stuff and most orals, I also got my arimidex and shit from the new source.
gashred777
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I got you man. Yeah, that’s a hell of a deal for sure. Just asking around in light of recent events. I assume when you say the new source, you mean the sponsor?
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Gruntwerkz
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No it’s a source off the M&S board, he just went online with it guess he only did local shit in the past.
Real good dude and prices you won’t see anywhere else, I haven’t used a ton of his stuff yet but I stocked up on his test for TRT needs as well.
Yes, I suppose I do. But not because of a preference for either test’ c or test’ e. I simply purchase which ever one is on sale at any given time I simply purchase which ever one is on sale at any given time.
gashred777
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I meant between the Dragon Pharma and Geneva Test products?
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Oh!
Nah, I don’t give two shits about the infinitesimally small difference between the e ester and the c ester.
gashred777
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I get that, Eddie. Lol! I meant the brands themselves for Testosterone products, no matter what ester is attached.
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Gruntwerkz
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Still wrong Eddie lol he’s talking about brands not esters.
gashred777
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Oh! Like duh!
No, to me, Dragon Pharma and Geneza Pharmaceuticals are quite similar. My blood panels have always revealed them to be well-dosed. And I've never experienced any amount of PIP with respect to either of the two.
I apologize for the long delay due my, uh, fossil moment or two, gashredsters.
gashred777
Cyborg Humanoid Brother
Anavar is one of the safest steroids in terms of hair loss
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sisir012
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Why is that, Dylan?
Lol anavar is safe in terms of hair loss...Tren is not
Tren is probably the single worst steroid for accelerating hair loss
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first of all, its the most overrated steroid known to man... people think its some sort of magical weight loss drug and its not, not even close... the results are minimal at best.. .its far more suitable for a female... then, to top it off, you deal with terrible pumps etc for the little bit you get from it... not to mention it gets faked often because its so expensive and not nearly as effective as others that are cheaper... i cant stand it to be honest...
sisir012
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Hahaa but i did not notice any hair loss when i run tren may be i can use dht compound ,and about tren lots of complain but myself tren is my 1st choose
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"...and not nearly as effective as others that are cheaper..."
Are you referring to the likes of EQ and mast'?
i would say tbol is as close to var as you can find.
I have yet to run tbol, and that is just exactly why I should run tbol.
Thank you for the prod, Steve.
I believe using your numbers
You’d get a $24000 return
So why is it not possible ?
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Men will get a lot more out of tbol then anavar.
TBOL is the most under rated steroid IMO
Satan62
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I am going to run some tbol on my next cycle. A change from running anavar or winny with cycles.
Satan62
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Thanks Trevor. I appreciate your input!
Well, although it would constitute a gross profit margin rather than a net profit margin, if, indeed, 2.2 pounds of the raw powder used towards the production of anavar yields enough 50mg tablets (sold at $60 for fifty 50mg tablets), actually figures out to be $24000, then it would be possible.
I suppose that I simply do not know enough about the making of anavar to know for sure. My previous comment was based on both what I have been told is the price of a kilo of 'var's raw powder, as well as my knowldege of its average retail cost. So my statement may well have been an overstatement.
So, too, is turinabol far less expensive than is anavar. In fact, through at least early Monday morning, it appears that Napsgear.org and Promedications.cc will be selling five-hundred 10mg tablets of Geneza Pharmaceutical's turinabol for $243.
Please excuse me while I order a grip of it...
Thanks, Trevor.
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Out!
Gruntwerkz
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Good deal there, love tbol.
I used to always use it as a kick start on long ester cycles, first 4 weeks 30mg ED was great.
Cutting cycles or bulking cycles, Gruntwerkz?
Gruntwerkz
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I’ve actually used it with both, the best way I gain explain tbol is like dbol and anavar had a baby and named it tbol.
It has the nice dry hard property like anavar to some degree but seems to be a lot more powerful for LBM, kinda like dbol is only without that puffy bloat.
Really nice compound for lean mass, you’ll like it.
Both, eh?
I knew there to have been a good reason why I ordered 1000 tabs'.
Thank you, Gruntwerkz.
Gruntwerkz
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Well I’m guessing at your age you aren’t really looking to add sloppy or messy water weight, I think dbol has its place and all but I’m personally not a fan when there’s an option like tbol.
Considering it’s great for cutting, bulking and especially recomp I can’t see why people over look it so much.
I personally don’t run a ton of orals anymore just to be cautious on the liver, the upcoming anavar I’ll be running in 2 weeks will only be 50mg/day for 6 weeks and with that I’ll run TUDCA and NAC.
Yes, I think that, at 60, it is of upmost importance that I not place additional stress on my heart, back and knees by adding the sloppy weight that I used to think nothing of.
Persoanally, I think it has had more to do with my longstanding desire to injest as few orals as possible.
Exactly. I just finished six weeks of 'var at 50mgs per day accompanied by both TUDCA and NAC. And, according to my out-of-pocket endrocrinologist, my blood panel "checked out perfectly for someone who used steroids for tweleve weeks." Snooty bitch! ;-)
Gruntwerkz
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So no serious change in AST or ALT when using TUDCA and NAC? Can I ask what your dosage of the TUDCA and NAC were?
800mgs and 600mgs, respectively, per day.
Hollywood305
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What's tudca and nac?
Gruntwerkz
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Liver support sups, TUDCA is UDCA bound to taurine to make a supplement version of the actual medicine persist, UDCA is used to treat liver issues.
NAC is n-Acetyl-cysteine also great for the liver and a good wellness supplement.
Hollywood305
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Where can you get this shit? Is it pharm grade or do like GNC sell it
Gruntwerkz
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I get them from amazon, they’re legal vitamins/supplements so you can find them at GNC or other big vitamins shops. Amazon is the cheapest, use a reputable brand that’s third party tested.
For NAC and I buy nutricost bulk NAC powder, 250 grams in a tub and comes with a 1200mg scoop so I just use half a scoop a day. Lasts forever. I use the same brand for TUDCA but I only use TUDCA when I’m taking something oral toxic where NAC I use year round usually.
NAC is used clinically for Tylenol overdose to prevent acetaminophen from damaging the liver of reversing the damage, TUDCA is used for cirrhosis and a few other liver things.
Hollywood305
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Gruntwerkz
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Yeah n2guard has it I believe, rumor is n2gaurd can even protect against HIV and all it’s so good.
gashred777
Cyborg Humanoid Brother
You and your crazy stash
You've heard of the Mad Bomber, right? (No, not Daryle LaMonica. Though he was just that.)
Well I'm the Mad Orderer.
Stop me before I order again!
take n2guard before sex with crackheads and you will be protected from lots of STD's lol..
but seriously it has about 44 ingredients including several liver protectants.. i never run steroids without it
Gruntwerkz
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Hahaha right, all seriousness they do have a nice list of ingredients in the guard. The multi-vitamin is nicely done too.
I’m a touch skeptical on stuff like HCGenerate, and maybe that’s just because it never offered me much being hypogonadal.
Haha well bro, if you are hypogonadal nothing will help you lol.
How products like HCGenerate work is they increase LH and FSH which signal the testicles to increase testosterone production. Unfortunately, that can't happen in your situation.
Gruntwerkz
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Unfortunately that’s true, so I can’t really comment about that product. The only thing that really does anything for me is testosterone or SERMS, and SERMS are temporary of course.
So it’s more of a herbal version of a serm you’re saying? Will it actually cause a boost in test or free test for healthy males with normal T levels?
I was also looking into things to increase free T, other then proviron of masteron.
Hollywood305
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Yea N2s multi vitamin is nicely priced as well...
Can they take debit cards yet or is it Amazon only still?
hcgenerate will increase your load size, plump your balls up, and boost libido. the ES version has some extra ingredients that lower prolactin and help with ED.
they are must uses in pct for that reason
brother...n2guard protects from many things...i know you being funny...but straight up n2guard is used by a few of my clients with serious liver problems...very serious oral steroid abuse brothers....where n2guard cleans the liver big time...ton of bloods and love for n2g
strongarmny
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Is there a difference between HCGenerate and HCGenerate ES? And will one be used over another during either Cycles, PCT or between Cycles and PCT? Thanks.
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Thanks Steve on difference between HCGenerate and HCGenerate ES. When will one be used over another during either Cycles, PCT or between Cycles and PCT? Thanks.
Check out this thread. It compares the ES version to the regular in depth -> https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/hcgenerate-vs-hcgenerate-es-1198.html
ES stands for extra strength. It has some nice extras that you don't get in the regular version. Kind of like a toyota vs a ferrari. Both are going to get you from A to B but the ferrari has some nice extra add ons
Females anavar use review:
I’ve done 4 low dose 10mg anavar cycles at 8 and 12 weeks. It was definitely real, had it tested.
Pros
Lean muscle
Weight loss
Abs for days
Energy
Less emotional
Stamina increased
Stronger
Cons:
You WILL grow hair where you didn’t have it before
Clit will be puffy
Voice will deepen slightly
Mild acne in different places dependent on cycle
Resting bitch face will look harder every time you cycle
Hair loss
Which sides are reversible
Voice
Acne
Clit won’t look like it had a workout for 2 hours like it did on cycle
Is it worth it? Definitely NOT for woman. Gains are lost within 6 months. Weight comes back. You get softer. But you keep the nasty manly sides!
I’m trying an Ostarine and Cardonine stack right now... Tigersarms brand. I’ll give good updates on how this runs once I start seeing gains or sides. Only been running it 3 days.
I’ve done 4 low dose 10mg anavar cycles at 8 and 12 weeks. It was definitely real, had it tested.
Pros
Lean muscle
Weight loss
Abs for days
Energy
Less emotional
Stamina increased
Stronger
Cons:
You WILL grow hair where you didn’t have it before
Clit will be puffy
Voice will deepen slightly
Mild acne in different places dependent on cycle
Resting bitch face will look harder every time you cycle
Hair loss
Which sides are reversible
Voice
Acne
Clit won’t look like it had a workout for 2 hours like it did on cycle
Is it worth it? Definitely NOT for woman. Gains are lost within 6 months. Weight comes back. You get softer. But you keep the nasty manly sides!
I’m trying an Ostarine and Cardonine stack right now... Tigersarms brand. I’ll give good updates on how this runs once I start seeing gains or sides. Only been running it 3 days.
How long does PSL take for domestic shipping after you pay ?
anywhere from 2-4 days after shipped, but the process with collections to shipping could take a few days as well.. on average, 3-5 days for total with everything with TD landing
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