DMZ/4AD Log :)

[warhawk23]

Quick backstory (cycles). My first ever cycle was LGD4033 for $160 from Sarms1. It was OK if that. Then decided to try EA LGD, not impressed, made me tired, no desire to eat, and no strength gain notices. Then I tried CrazyBulk products. They should rename it to CrazyBunk cuz I wasted every penny. Now, DMZ/4AD (first PH cycle). Almost half a year of research went into this and I personally know 3 kids who took this stack @ 18 and to this day are thriving.
Now stats, then ill start the desired log.
Age : 18 (i know to young, hpta, liver, this and that) I am not dosing at 60 mg or anything bonkers and will cut down if I feel like im turning into a zombie. I will play it safe but just wanna experiment now before college ball.
Weight (Start Jan 31.): 182 dry Goal (End Feb 28.) 195/200 dry.
Height: 6'1 1/4 on a good day
BP: 250 x 1 S: 360 x 1 (ACL Tear 1 year ago) DL: 315 x 1 (due to a shitty back problem Freshman year) and Cleans : 205 x 2
Goals? BP: 250+ S: 405 x 1 DL: 405 x 1 Cleans: 225 x 1
Diet? It's pretty damn solid if you ask me. ill post it if someone is interested.
Okay! Time for Log. Roughly 28 Day cycle. Stay tuned, im your 18 year old guinea pig, don't feel bad for me if somethign bad happens because i am young and dumb so lesgetit.

 

[Mobster]

I won't be passing on any helpful tips to an 18 year old. I am glad to see you know, after a year of research, that 18 is too young. It's a pity that you still decided to carry on. That you've also done two cycles already is annoying as is the apparent lack of knowledge regarding the number of fake PH's out there. And where, having done a years research did you get the idea of a 4 week cycle?

 

[stevesmi]

i'm confused here. pro hormones were banned 2-3 years ago in the US. so whatever you are taking is not a pro hormone unless you live overseas

 

[Tbl16]

i'm confused here. pro hormones were banned 2-3 years ago in the US. so whatever you are taking is not a pro hormone unless you live overseas

Quite a few of the UK supplement companies have found a way to get the legit PHs they sell through US customs. I used to read another forum that was much more liberal about stuff before I found Evo and iSarms. There’s a lot of bro science that takes place on that forum along with much misinformation. But there were quite a few US users that were taking PHs that were legit from over seas distributors.

 

[muskate]

Quite a few of the UK supplement companies have found a way to get the legit PHs they sell through US customs. I used to read another forum that was much more liberal about stuff before I found Evo and iSarms. There’s a lot of bro science that takes place on that forum along with much misinformation. But there were quite a few US users that were taking PHs that were legit from over seas distributors.

Not true. Pro-hormones DO still exist, but they are all weak DHEA derivatives. All the real pro-hormones (AKA designer steroids) are banned after the 2014 pro-hormone ban. The ban took place in Canada, US, the UK, Australia...everywhere.

A lot of supplement companies renamed their products the same name as the old pro-hormones to try and trick a naive buying audience but they are NOT the same thing.

 

[Tbl16]

Thanks Muskate. That kind of response is why I keep coming to this forum to read and seek advice. Everyone here is very informative and willing to share what they know.

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

At 18 your test levels are as high as when some guys run gear. Why would you risk fucking up yourself for life when you can make the same results without PEDs? Makes no sense. Is it worth it to gain an extra 3lbs of muscle to never be able to have kids?

 

[dylangemelli]

i would not advise you to use steroids if you paid me a million dollars.. yes, you can make your own choices but im certainly not contributing to someone ruining your life... listen man, i get THOUSANDS of questions per day and I have been doing this a long time and have seen it all... i think i know what happens to guys that use steroids your age and you know what, its never good, not at all... you are gong to learn a very very severe and lifelong lesson that i have a feeling you dont want to encounter... you are too young to be using ANYTHING bro... be smart, don't be a fool and learn the hard way… 



you need to watch my video on the dangers of underage steroid use…


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JGvrqErX8g&t=47s



The problems with individuals that had not yet attained full physio-sexual development, is that that anabolic compounds are acting on locations within the central nervous system that are still under development. That is, that many receptors that are activated by Testosterone are STILL performing developmental functions, and you are stimulating them before they had the chance to fully create a working framework of hormonal balance that would sustain you for the rest of your adult life.

 

[warhawk23]

Okay guys, so the reason I ran this (just to contest to the whole 'your teste levels are this high), I busted my ass off for months on end and couldnt ever get past my 315 DL plateau, squat plateau, bench plateau, and said fuck it because its a joke. I gain maybe 5 lbs. with heavy eating in probably 4 months, not joking.(not trying to be rude or anything but its the truth, i wasn't growing) Time for Log
(Days and Weeks below are based off of MG's taken to refer to weeks, theyre not actually week lengths, but I ran my dosage based on amount I have, smart right? lol)
Days Jan. 31 - Feb. 6 ran at 15mg (1cap) - 'Week1' referral
Days Feb. 7 - Feb. 17 ran at 30mg (2 caps split) - 'Week2' referral
Days Feb. 17 - Feb. 28 (3 caps split) - 'Week3' referral

Week 1 -
No noticable gains, but I was told I looked bigger with only 3 lbs gained, if that. I was fluctuating between 178 to 185 so who knows. Week 1 sucked ass because I forgot to grab Fish Oil and Co10 (head fogginess like a mf) but otherwise it was good.

Week 2 - The juicy stages (right now). In these 10 days... wow is all I can say. Went from the weird numbers above ^ (dry) to as of right now, 192 dry. No noticeable speed differences, cutting differences. I feel more explosive, quick, fast, whatever you want to call it. I figured hey, never being over 183 in my life to being 192 I'd get slow, but in reality taking cuts/jukes, I feel more powerful and honestly alot smoother. Getting out of 40 stance or sprinter stance, I feel like i got some meat pushing me instead of feeling so damn light. 10lbs. does alot! Im now able to rep 315 for 2, 3 if its a good day. I got my power clean to 205, and with a form fix and more of a squat clean, could easily get 225 to 245. Squat? Oh baby, do my quads look veiny when at the bottom. I do 4x3 5x1x1 first 3 sets Front Squat and last 2 back squat as it gets heavy (to me) and maybe thats why I still feel explosive? (college lifting program) Bench? I dont really care as I said because I need to focus on more explosive stuff and a slot receiver as I know I wont be going chest first into a DB lol that's silly and will sit me. I have gotten a ton bigger too. Im really starting to fill out and i'm loving it. Im loving how im finally growing after busting ass xD Unfortunaetly I got this crush on a girl whose gotta be a Fr. when im a Sr. but I gotta weigh those pros and cons as much as this cycle so Ill get back with that in a good minute .

Week 3 started technically today so at the end of the month, I'll let you know final weight and all my 1 rep maxes.


So far
Pros of DMZ - Good pumps, give it time and you will grow, makes you hornier than a fuck, focus after the first week increases, brain activity? i feel like Im doing better in school and able to remember more, gainz, reactions, water intake (you aint ever going thirsty).
Cons of DMZ - You get back pains which scare you because you think your liver is failing, but its just your damn head because theres no way it can if you run the OCT properly and drink 1+gallons of water a day. 1st week fogginess of head blows dick. Balls ache but what doesn't these days :/, anger, you flip a switch like that and your on somebodies ass for just looking at you wrong, its a drug, very weird bodily feelings (heart beats, weird stomach moving, ribs feel like theyre expanding 20 feet), makes you poop alot.

Thanks for reading guys, and Im sorry I did this to myself at a young age but I know deep down some of you guys want to see what happens if a 18 yr old takes this.

 

[gearhead]

brother great update...keep this coming...i hate dmz lol

 

[Mobster]

And again - you shouldn't be on gear. You're 18.

 

[RoySimpson]

way too young to be on gear man, you have so much natural production at that age why make such a big risk of losing that free natty test? Get on the food and lifting and results will show!

 

[stevesmi]

you could not break your plateau because you are only 18. what is the rush man?

strength training you have the potential to not even peak until you are in your late 40's and early 50's.. the strongest guys in every meathead gym are typically that age.

does life finish at 25? no. what is the rush?

 

[muskate]

way too young to be on gear man, you have so much natural production at that age why make such a big risk of losing that free natty test? Get on the food and lifting and results will show!

Not only is it not needed - its going to do more harm then good. A man goes through puberty until he's about 22-23. Playing with steroids before then will prevent you from going through puberty properly.

I started steroids at 18 and it was the worst decision I ever made. Learn from my mistakes.

Wait until you are AT LEAST 23

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

You will be pining for the rest of your life starting at a young age. But fuck it......YOLO right? SMH.

 

[warhawk23]

2 Days into Week 3 and WOAH.
When they said 45mg was the sweet spot, were they right. I wish I went ahead and bought 2 bottles to run 45mg the entire cycle. My 1rep Max above for Squat was based off of me being able to do 305 x2 (360 being 1?) but today I repped out 305 x1, 315 x1, AND 335x1 and had way more in the tank but my quads felt like they were tearing so I was like fuck it im happy. I hit 675 on Leg Press with still more in the tank but the whole quad quirk :/. Ill be honest, I feel like If I never tore my damned ACL Id be squatting damn near 500 (405 at the beginning of my Jr. football season), I was the strongest at my life. I was 175 on a good day squatting 4 hundred and 5 pounds. It hits me and makes me honestly sad that I wont hit 500 before I graduate but Im damned humble to finally squat over 300 with reps and more in the tank. Taking this crap really humbles me because it makes me realize how weak the body is (lol at me but oh well). Im just happy how everything is going, and I know with 1 week left exactly, Im going to be squatting 360 for 2/3 reps, and finally getting my 400 lbs. back. I will post after pics (deleted my before like a damn noob) and possibly links to videos but maybe not. I will be back at the end of cycle and at the mid point and end of PCT to inform yall of the gains kept and (also doing a quick cut with Instant Knockout product) for track to get shredded. But thats up for debate idk yet. Ill see you guys next week and thank you for checking out my thread it does honestly mean alot!

 

[gearhead]

bro add pics great update...

 

[dylangemelli]

the fact that he is completely oblivious to what everyone is saying is just tragic... i wish this was not even allowed to be posted... its sickening and disgusting...

 

[warhawk23]

Next Wednesday for sure!

 

[warhawk23]

I know I'm not listening to the advice when I should.. and believe me when I say this, I wish I didn't take this DMZ (not because of side effects, there are none btw so far, but the fact it's a steroid). But with this, I have had a handful of family members. mom and dad side, who played with steroids at a young age (they're 30-45 now) and they say they still haven't had any problems because they told me when I asked them to keep the dosage a little under recommended, and so far I think it's holding true. I'm not saying by no means that I am immune, because I know im not, but if they played with legit roids at around my age and haven't felt/seen sides yet after 20 years, im theorizing I just have a higher tolerance possibly. No disrespect intended to you thought if some was felt. I have watched alot of your videos and when I saw you commented on my thread I was jumping around and laughing. Im sorry you hate that I did this but hey, stick around!