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Hello everybody i want to start trt in january to put my natural testosterone high end now its 398 range 400-1200.Estrogen is good.What should i expect any experiences from trt or cycling?Thanks
you don't need TRT when your levels are 400 at all.. just take a natty supp like hcgenerate or ES and you will feel great
makes no sense to shut yourself down for life just to move your T levels up another 100. TRT doc isn't going to put you on enough gear to get you over 1000, nor is that healthy.. point of TRT is to have normal levels, not high. high T levels will strain your heart
makes no sense to shut yourself down for life just to move your T levels up another 100. TRT doc isn't going to put you on enough gear to get you over 1000, nor is that healthy.. point of TRT is to have normal levels, not high. high T levels will strain your heart
I will self prescribe not by doctor.i just train for years and since i started i havent gained any strength i just maintain what i had from 16 years old i am 24 now.my strength is 12 pull ups i have plateud for years.I also use creatine. ><
Diet and training bro. What are your macros? Do you keep a diet/training log? Do you do cardio? Are you progressively overloading? etc etc.... There are a plethora of variables that must be optimised before you jump on gear and let it, in part, do the work.
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24 years old and you want to go on trt. NO! I would be willing to bet that your diet sucks. Fix your diet and you will see major strength gains. Grab a bottle if hc generate ES to get you over the hump. You have a long ways to go naturally
my diet i just eat clean no macros.i dont use heavy weights anymore cuz my joints cant take it i use bodyweight exercises pushups pullups and shoulder presses with dumbells.For cardio i do 30 minutes with my bike.i train 3-4 times per week but i have plateud have you checked with bloodtests if hc geneterate increased your testosterone?
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Being on aas will not help your joint issues at all. You don't need trt if that's all your doing there's many other muscles you need to build up even with light weights that will help. If you really love training you can find a way to make it work for you.
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To build muscle you need to progressively overload your muscles in order to elicit positive adaptive change. Adding test into the mix isn't going to help if you're not training for muscle growth, also eating clean? How can you expect to know what works and what doesn't if you're not accounting for what you're consuming. Write down what you eat for the next few days and account for the macros and see what you get, then you can see what you're taking in and why it's not working for
You.
dreckis604
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The heck is wrong with you 24 and self TRT? man research and use your brain.
biggamike
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Bro, you're only 24 and have a good level of natural test. No need to go on TRT at this point in your life. With training and proper diet you should still be able to add size and strength. If you're trying to put on strength and size, you gotta eat big to get big. But eating big doesn't mean eating fat. Add more protein and QUALITY carbs to your diet. Also, you can work around joint pain and lift heavy. I'm pretty sure everyone on here will tell you that. If barbell lifts are bothering you, go strictly dumbbell, or even use the Smith Machine. Personally, unless you are a competitive bodybuilder or athlete, I would not recommend anyone using AAS before the age of 25.
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You don't need to be on TRT, not at that age, not with this kind of blood tests. First, and foremost, you need to get your diet dialed in, and schedule very well you workouts. Even with gear you will not grow unless these issues are taken care of.
Once u go on Trt there is no way to return back natty.Its a life time commitment.At your age you can naturally boosts ur T levels but taking test boosters like HcGenerate ES, T Stack 17 and many such supplements available that have proven record - u can read online reviews on these products. As others suggested a fix and diet and proper exercise will also naturally boost ur T levels.
I advice instead of going to a Trt try HcGenerate ES for 12 weeks, fix ur diet & follow a good exercise program, then get another test done and decide later.
U will be shocked with ur next lab reports following this advice. Evo family in here care for everybody and give honest & healthy advice.
Thanks guys i will think about the hcgenerate in january with capital controls in greece now i cant buuy online ><
You can order HCGeneate ES from n2bm.com. They ship internationally.
At your age, you do not need TRT. It is not a good idea on so many levels. Starting TRT will make you dependent on it for the rest of your life. It is something you will most likely regret.
You can make a lot of progress naturally. Perfecting your diet and training program is what is going to put the muscle on you, and keep it there.
Read these two articles I wrote on developing a lean mass gain diet and training program. It'll be perfect for your exact situation.
http://www.evolutionary.org/forums/...n-program-article-trevor-kouritzin-32850.html
http://www.evolutionary.org/forums/...uested-my-daily-training-blueprint-33382.html
if you are 24 and within normal range, there is no reason to go on trt
