Exposing the Fragile Ego of @KiwiFella – Why I Got Banned for a Joke - I called him a CUNT

[vialturn]

I see some people here trying to get this thread locked—no shock there, considering their sympathy for UGLOZ. But here’s the thing: last night, AJ (the owner of UGLOZ) personally reached out to me on Telegram. He actually seemed to be thinking rationally. I believe he realized that mistreating community members on their own forum doesn’t work—because when they silence people there, the truth comes out here.


And that’s exactly why this forum is great. Evo allows people to speak freely, unlike UGLOZ, where admins abuse their power without consequences. I’m thankful to Evo for not silencing voices, for letting the truth come out, and for proving that real communities are built on fairness and respect.

A community is made up of its members, not just a few power-hungry admins. Being an admin doesn’t give you the right to treat people however you want. I spoke up, and I was heard. That’s what real freedom of speech looks like.

So, big respect to Evo and its admin for standing for open discussion. This is what makes a forum the best.

Go away, you said your leaving

 

[UGL OZ]

I see some people here trying to get this thread locked—no shock there, considering their sympathy for UGLOZ. But here’s the thing: last night, AJ (the owner of UGLOZ) personally reached out to me on Telegram. He actually seemed to be thinking rationally. I believe he realized that mistreating community members on their own forum doesn’t work—because when they silence people there, the truth comes out here.


And that’s exactly why this forum is great. Evo allows people to speak freely, unlike UGLOZ, where admins abuse their power without consequences. I’m thankful to Evo for not silencing voices, for letting the truth come out, and for proving that real communities are built on fairness and respect.

A community is made up of its members, not just a few power-hungry admins. Being an admin doesn’t give you the right to treat people however you want. I spoke up, and I was heard. That’s what real freedom of speech looks like.

So, big respect to Evo and its admin for standing for open discussion. This is what makes a forum the best.

Interesting, we must've been in different conversations. Not only was I vocal about the trust I place in my moderation team, but I also expressed my full support for any decisions they make:

You then went to make threats implying that you would take actions to try tarnish my business and reputation unless the ban was lifted. In response, I made it clear that any attempts to extort or blackmail me won't work. Whether you make good on your threats or not, your ban will remain in place until the moderator who imposed it decides to lift it - which is unlikely to happen at this point given what has transpired.

The bottom line is this: this is a personal issue, not a professional one, and you are involving my business in a matter where it has no place being in as a desperate attempt to get what you want.

Your access to our private community is not an automatic right. If you are being disruptive and not contributing anything of value, that privilege will be revoked. You need to accept that you are not wanted there and move on.

There is more to life than a group chat on Telegram. Go outside and touch some grass; the world is much larger than that phone you’re holding in your hands.

AJ

 

[Bluebone]

I see some people here trying to get this thread locked—no shock there, considering their sympathy for UGLOZ. But here’s the thing: last night, AJ (the owner of UGLOZ) personally reached out to me on Telegram. He actually seemed to be thinking rationally. I believe he realized that mistreating community members on their own forum doesn’t work—because when they silence people there, the truth comes out here.


And that’s exactly why this forum is great. Evo allows people to speak freely, unlike UGLOZ, where admins abuse their power without consequences. I’m thankful to Evo for not silencing voices, for letting the truth come out, and for proving that real communities are built on fairness and respect.

A community is made up of its members, not just a few power-hungry admins. Being an admin doesn’t give you the right to treat people however you want. I spoke up, and I was heard. That’s what real freedom of speech looks like.

So, big respect to Evo and its admin for standing for open discussion. This is what makes a forum the best.

Well only AJs side of that conversation must’ve been rational bro, because you’re not rational by any means.

Unfortunately that still means it was an irrational conversation because of your involvement.

Concerning

 

[HatoriHanzo]

I see some people here trying to get this thread locked—no shock there, considering their sympathy for UGLOZ. But here’s the thing: last night, AJ (the owner of UGLOZ) personally reached out to me on Telegram. He actually seemed to be thinking rationally. I believe he realized that mistreating community members on their own forum doesn’t work—because when they silence people there, the truth comes out here.


And that’s exactly why this forum is great. Evo allows people to speak freely, unlike UGLOZ, where admins abuse their power without consequences. I’m thankful to Evo for not silencing voices, for letting the truth come out, and for proving that real communities are built on fairness and respect.

A community is made up of its members, not just a few power-hungry admins. Being an admin doesn’t give you the right to treat people however you want. I spoke up, and I was heard. That’s what real freedom of speech looks like.

So, big respect to Evo and its admin for standing for open discussion. This is what makes a forum the best.

You were heard by who?

Nobody cares about what you have to say. You’re just upset that the entire community dislikes you and wanted you removed after the way you were talking and harassing people.

Give it a rest mate. Go watch the cricket or something.

 

[LeakingCoffee]

Interesting, we must've been in different conversations. Not only was I vocal about the trust I place in my moderation team, but I also expressed my full support for any decisions they make:

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You then went to make threats implying that you would take actions to try tarnish my business and reputation unless the ban was lifted. In response, I made it clear that any attempts to extort or blackmail me won't work. Whether you make good on your threats or not, your ban will remain in place until the moderator who imposed it decides to lift it - which is unlikely to happen at this point given what has transpired.

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The bottom line is this: this is a personal issue, not a professional one, and you are involving my business in a matter where it has no place being in as a desperate attempt to get what you want.

Your access to our private community is not an automatic right. If you are being disruptive and not contributing anything of value, that privilege will be revoked. You need to accept that you are not wanted there and move on.

There is more to life than a group chat on Telegram. Go outside and touch some grass; the world is much larger than that phone you’re holding in your hands.

AJ

AJ replied with some screenshots in the thread, showing our one-on-one chat on Telegram.

For anyone reading our conversation—see for yourself how polite and respectful I have been with him. The discussion is rational, there’s no abuse, no insults, nothing inappropriate. I actually encourage everyone to go through it. Thank you, AJ, for sharing it here so people can see the truth.

But let’s not ignore the real shift in behavior. Before I posted my thread here on Evo, AJ was laughing at me and making jokes about me on his own forum. He didn’t take me seriously at all. But the moment I brought this to Evo, everything changed. Suddenly, he’s serious, he wants a one-on-one conversation, and he magically has time to take screenshots, write long explanations, and justify himself to the community.

That tells you everything.

I have no doubt that UGLOZ admins have mistreated hundreds of people before me—but no one spoke up, so they never cared. But the moment I raised my voice publicly, they all had to sit up and take this seriously. That’s a win.

And I’ll tell you something else—I’m pretty damn sure that from now on, no admin on their forum will ever mistreat a member just because they got called a "cunt." In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if AJ has already held a meeting with the admins, telling them:

"Guys, don’t be cunts. Stop making personal issues into forum-wide punishments. Some random dude called you a cunt in a chat—so what? Stop losing your minds over it. At worst, ban him from the group (which he can rejoin with a different ID anyway). So what’s the point?"

And you know what? I’m glad I helped them realize this. If my post forced them to take this issue seriously and think twice before abusing their own members, then I’ve already won.

I don’t feel bad anymore. This is a win for everyone who believes in fair treatment.

More power to freedom of speech!

 

[DEADTEAM.666]

AJ replied with some screenshots in the thread, showing our one-on-one chat on Telegram.

For anyone reading our conversation—see for yourself how polite and respectful I have been with him. The discussion is rational, there’s no abuse, no insults, nothing inappropriate. I actually encourage everyone to go through it. Thank you, AJ, for sharing it here so people can see the truth.

But let’s not ignore the real shift in behavior. Before I posted my thread here on Evo, AJ was laughing at me and making jokes about me on his own forum. He didn’t take me seriously at all. But the moment I brought this to Evo, everything changed. Suddenly, he’s serious, he wants a one-on-one conversation, and he magically has time to take screenshots, write long explanations, and justify himself to the community.

That tells you everything.

I have no doubt that UGLOZ admins have mistreated hundreds of people before me—but no one spoke up, so they never cared. But the moment I raised my voice publicly, they all had to sit up and take this seriously. That’s a win.

And I’ll tell you something else—I’m pretty damn sure that from now on, no admin on their forum will ever mistreat a member just because they got called a "cunt." In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if AJ has already held a meeting with the admins, telling them:



And you know what? I’m glad I helped them realize this. If my post forced them to take this issue seriously and think twice before abusing their own members, then I’ve already won.

I don’t feel bad anymore. This is a win for everyone who believes in fair treatment.

More power to freedom of speech!

Honestly, I only log on to evo to read what drama has unfolded this week.

Thank you for not disappointing.

 

[Creamofsumyoungguy]

Threatening drug dealers seems like not a smart decision lol

 

[LeakingCoffee]

Threatening drug dealers seems like not a smart decision lol

picking a fight with drug dealers... probably not my brightest idea.

is like arguing with your Uber driver mid-ride... you just hope they still drop you off safely.
is like insulting the chef before he serves your food... risky business!
is like challenging a bear to a wrestling match... you're not walking away with a win.

I think this is the real reason why all the people who get mistreated stay silent and never speak up... but hey, I’m one of a kind. LOL

 

[B3rnie]

picking a fight with drug dealers... probably not my brightest idea.

is like arguing with your Uber driver mid-ride... you just hope they still drop you off safely.
is like insulting the chef before he serves your food... risky business!
is like challenging a bear to a wrestling match... you're not walking away with a win.

What cycle are you running? Are you in a bulking or cutting phase? Are you doing PPL or a Bro Split in the gym? This is why you get treated the way you do. Contribute something to the forums and chats about things relevant to people that are here. If you put the amount of time and focus into your rants as you would training, diet and smart cycle design you would be a beast. LeakingCoffee more like Leaking diarrhea coz all you do is dribble shit!!

 

[Dirt]

What cycle are you running? Are you in a bulking or cutting phase? Are you doing PPL or a Bro Split in the gym? This is why you get treated the way you do. Contribute something to the forums and chats about things relevant to people that are here. If you put the amount of time and focus into your rants as you would training, diet and smart cycle design you would be a beast. LeakingCoffee more like Leaking diarrhea coz all you do is dribble shit!!

Was I as bad as this guy ?

 

[LeakingCoffee]

Was I as bad as this guy ?

nah, I am pretty sure, you are far better than me! cheers buddy!

 

[juddy]

Was I as bad as this guy ?

I like your shit talking, you always seem to have a valid point, and your pushing the issue.

But this all seems a bit much, who really cares. If a vendor is being a dick, or their admins, it'll work itself out in the wash.

 

[Dirt]

nah, I am pretty sure, you are far better than me! cheers buddy!

You don’t have a plan. You need a plan.

 

[Eddie Haskell]

You then went to make threats implying that you would take actions to try tarnish my business and reputation unless the ban was lifted. In response, I made it clear that any attempts to extort or blackmail me won't work. Whether you make good on your threats or not, your ban will remain in place until the moderator who imposed it decides to lift it - which is unlikely to happen at this point given what has transpired.

Blackmail is against our TOS.

This thread is locked.

@LeakingCoffee you have been given a 24 hour time out.