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Hi. Im 18 years old and i want to make cycle with testosteron. I live in Bulgaria, where every website claims to be legit, but actually is fake. I cant buy testosteron without doctor's prescription. So, my last hope is to acting to get TRT. But are there any tricks to make the test to show i have low testosterone? What if i train very hard and dont sleep in the night before the blood test? Or are there any other options? Please, i need help to make my first cycle.

And if i go on testosterone, what medical researches should i do on my body? I heard i should do research on my heart, liver and etc... And what else should i research? I want to make cycle, but i dont want to get prostate or liver cancer, or sleep apnea or something like that...
 
noone here is going to advise steroid use to an 18 year old... period... i would not advise you to use steroids if you paid me a million dollars.. yes, you can make your own choices but im certainly not contributing to someone ruining your life... listen man, i get THOUSANDS of questions per day and I have been doing this a long time and have seen it all... i think i know what happens to guys that use steroids your age and you know what, its never good, not at all... you are gong to learn a very very severe and lifelong lesson that i have a feeling you dont want to encounter... you are too young to be using ANYTHING bro... be smart, don't be a fool and learn the hard way… 

 
Hi. Im 18 years old and i want to make cycle with testosteron. I live in Bulgaria, where every website claims to be legit, but actually is fake. I cant buy testosteron without doctor's prescription. So, my last hope is to acting to get TRT. But are there any tricks to make the test to show i have low testosterone? What if i train very hard and dont sleep in the night before the blood test? Or are there any other options? Please, i need help to make my first cycle.

And if i go on testosterone, what medical researches should i do on my body? I heard i should do research on my heart, liver and etc... And what else should i research? I want to make cycle, but i dont want to get prostate or liver cancer, or sleep apnea or something like that...

Your first bit of research needs to start with why it's a bad idea to use steroids when you're 18.
 
Yes, i already know the side effects, the possible side effects etc... I know at my age the ednocrine system is still developing, right? The usage of steroids can damage the ednocrine system, and you think i dont know it, but i know it. I have done enough research, and now i know everything. I want to make 1 cycle for kick start, or maybe 2 cycles, but no more because i know too much steroids can damage the body. And if i make 2 cycles, i will get enough break between the cycles. Dont worry about me, i have enough knowledge. If you dont believe me, ask me some questions you think i dont know the answer.

Dylangemelli, what can happen? What lifelong lession i will learn?

P. S. most pros started heavy steroids, peptides at my age, and now they look and are healthy.

Again - i know how steroids in big doses work, this is why i want to use safe steroids (as testosteron) for no long period.
 
Because i want to reach my genetic potential as fast as possible - i want nice muscles. When i was 12 years old, i was with overweight, which means i had low testosterone. I had no facial hair, no deep voice, my face looked like as kid face. When i became 16 years old, i decided to start taining. In less than 3 months i melted almost all the unwanted fat. Then i saw drastic changes - bigger penis, much more facial hair, darker eyebrows, deeper voice, more strenght, more erections, longer lasting, higher cheeckbones, square jaw and etc... just things that indicate higher testosterone.

When i was 13 years old, one of my friend (14 years old) looked like big guy - deep voice, facial hair and etc... due to the high testosterone. During this period, i looked like kid compared to him. I dont know can you understand me or no, but if when i was 12 years old i didnt was overweight, now i could look very different - for example:

1. If i didnt was overweight, now i could have much bigger penis.
2. If i didnt was overweight, now i could have fully grown facial hair.
3. If i didnt was overweight, now i could have much deeper voice.
4. If i didnt was overweight, now i could not have gyno.
5. Many more similar reasons to the reasons from point 1 to point 5.

When i was 12-13-14-15 years old, i ate only "junk food" and chickens full with synthetic estrogen and synthetic growth hormone - this is why i have very, very small gyno. The gyno can be seen by people who already know i have gyno. Yes, its undetectable, but its fact i have it. I wasted aroud 4-5 years eating and playing on the PC, while other guys fucked girls and etc activities.

Alright, i melted the fat and i get masculanization, ok! But if i didnt kill my testosterone for around 4-5 years, now i could be 1000 times more masculine. I know the body is developing to 22-25 years, this is why i want to go on testosterone as fast as possible - because i want to get fully masculine.

Another reasons why i want to go on testosterone:
1. I have small amount if fat aroud the stomach and the fat dont want to disappear.
2. I want to try how it feels.
3. I want see will the small gyno disappear.
4. I want to get fully developed secobdary male sex characteristics. If i hadnt kill my testosterone for 4-5 years, now i could have fully developed secondary male sex characteristics.
5. I have strong bone mineralization (even i have no caries), but i want stronger bones and bigger bone mass.
6. Sometimes, when i think about the wasted years, im getting depressed due to the high estrogen. Yes rarely im getting higher estrogen for about 30 minutes... My testosterone was dead for about 4-5 years and now its hard to bring it back easily.
7. Sometimes for about 30 minutes im getting low testosterone symptoms.
There are and more reasons for me to go on testosterone, but they are not very important so i wont share them.

Can you understand what im trying to say? Other boys joined puberty ate the age 12-13, im joining puberty at the age 18 litteraly. I know you cant understand what i want to say, english is not my native language.

My body is not fully developed, because i had low testosterone. My body started developing when i melted the fat, because then my testosteron was increased. Now i want to inject more testosterone to speed up the developing process. The body stops developing when i reach age 22, so i must start injecting testosterone before i reach age 22.

When i say cycle, i mean 100-150mg testosteron per week. Do you really think this small dose can damage me? There are people who takes 2 grams of testosterone and nothing happens to them... I will take only 100-150. I dont think this small amount will hurt me. Im healthy, i dont some and dont drink alchohol. I have never been in hospital, and i have never been sick in my life.

WARNING: i dont have delayed puberty or something like that.
 
and remember the golden rule, the less steroids you use when you are young, the more you can take when you are old! and thats when you need them really :)
 
A man goes through puberty until he's about 25.

Using steroids before that time will prevent you from going through puberty properly. We all have your best interests in mind. If you decide to use steroids before the age of 25 - you will end up regretting it for the rest of your life
 
From 18 - 23 is when you'll make your best natural gains man. Consider it after your body "stops developing" as you say - even though I have no idea what that means considering the body is always developing. Just because you're salty you screwed around while others were more productive doesn't justify your reasons for using. Plus if you really have low T go get work done and your doc will give it to you. I was fat as shit and lazy as hell too but I just changed my diet - lost 100 lbs and 20 inches on my waist, and got that strong jaw line, no more man boobies, and got so much juicy ass that I couldn't care for more. Go into the gym - do a solid training program - and go with a legit diet plan. The beginning is when you'll see the most results, but hey if you want to just get fatter because you think injecting T will fix all your problems - that's on you lol. Especially if you claim to be going through puberty at 18 - it'll probably get better from then on - so why f it up? Instead of getting roids injected, just get "Patience is a virtue" tatted on your forehead and do it when you stop developing. Be a man and take your balls into your own hands rather than living on a prayer the needle will fix you. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
From 18 - 23 is when you'll make your best natural gains man. Consider it after your body "stops developing" as you say - even though I have no idea what that means considering the body is always developing. Just because you're salty you screwed around while others were more productive doesn't justify your reasons for using. Plus if you really have low T go get work done and your doc will give it to you. I was fat as shit and lazy as hell too but I just changed my diet - lost 100 lbs and 20 inches on my waist, and got that strong jaw line, no more man boobies, and got so much juicy ass that I couldn't care for more. Go into the gym - do a solid training program - and go with a legit diet plan. The beginning is when you'll see the most results, but hey if you want to just get fatter because you think injecting T will fix all your problems - that's on you lol. Especially if you claim to be going through puberty at 18 - it'll probably get better from then on - so why f it up? Instead of getting roids injected, just get "Patience is a virtue" tatted on your forehead and do it when you stop developing. Be a man and take your balls into your own hands rather than living on a prayer the needle will fix you. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

For the win - get the tattoo back to front so you can see it in a mirror
 
Be more detailed! What exactly will happen if i use steroids before age 25? My natural hormone production will stop, and i will have to use synthetic hormone replacement therapy?

Ok but what about some pros like Jay Cutler, Markus Ruhl, Ronnie Coleman? They started steroids even before age 18 and they are alive today. Markus Ruhl was heavy steroid user and alchoholic, but he was able to have kids, and now he has one kid. Jay Cutler is 40+, but he looks young. Ronnie Coleman is 50+ but he also looks young... The only thing that makes ronnie coleman ugly is the distended stomach. but you can see all bodybuilders that didnt use HGH, now they dont have distended stomach and they looks young. And please, tell me what really can happen with me if i use steroids now? Just explain me detailed, please.
 
U say u were fat bcz of low test, u were fat bcz u sat on the couch eating just food & had low test bcz u were fat.
Small penis because low test, u have small penis from genetics.

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The penis issue did make my wife & I laugh pretty hard tho!!!
 
I’m nowhere near experienced geared user but just by watching your post, I already know you are DEFINATELY NOT ready for using steroid by just looking at these:

Planning not to sleep just to “get a lower T level”.

Fat doesn’t mean you were low T,

Bigger penis doesn’t mean you had higher T... It was puberty at that age.....

These are common sense mate..

PLUS if you said you are that “knowledgeable” then why even bother ask question here? You knew all the things already.

Not to be mean but really?!
 
I had small penis, because fat covered it. Now its 16.5cm and it will be good if penis grow a little bit more.
 
Lmaoareyouserious, I have normal testosterone level, i dont have problems with my testosterone level. I told i wont sleep in a case when i want to make doctor to give me TRT. When you dont sleep, your cortisol levels increases which makes your T levels lower - and the bloodwork will show low testosterone level... Cant you understand me, buddy?

And why im not ready for steroids? If you know what to do, you will success... But ok, i will wait until i reach age 25. For now i just know its hard to build muscles without steroids
 
Be more detailed! What exactly will happen if i use steroids before age 25? My natural hormone production will stop, and i will have to use synthetic hormone replacement therapy?

Ok but what about some pros like Jay Cutler, Markus Ruhl, Ronnie Coleman? They started steroids even before age 18 and they are alive today. Markus Ruhl was heavy steroid user and alchoholic, but he was able to have kids, and now he has one kid. Jay Cutler is 40+, but he looks young. Ronnie Coleman is 50+ but he also looks young... The only thing that makes ronnie coleman ugly is the distended stomach. but you can see all bodybuilders that didnt use HGH, now they dont have distended stomach and they looks young. And please, tell me what really can happen with me if i use steroids now? Just explain me detailed, please.

No they didn't.
 
No they didn't.

Alright.

Are there steroids that i can use at age 18 and wont affect my ednocrine system? As i know, only bulking steroids give side effects on the ednocrine system. Can i use cutting steroids now? And do cutting steroids as winstrol need protectors/PCT?
 
every steroid does work your hormonal system, regardless of the purpose of it. Cutting bulking, winstrol, masteron everything affects your endocrine, prohormones arent even real steroids but they also affect your endocrine, everything needs pct winstrol including... even sarms need mini pct and they aint nothing like steroids. Be careful..
 
Alright.

Are there steroids that i can use at age 18 and wont affect my ednocrine system? As i know, only bulking steroids give side effects on the ednocrine system. Can i use cutting steroids now? And do cutting steroids as winstrol need protectors/PCT?

I'll address the Jay Cutler et al thing first.

It's very hard for those without 'the gift' of genetics to believe that of the 7-8 BILLION people walking planet Earth there exists a small number of guys who were fkin huge, muscular and strong without steroids. Two points: Go back through the history of bodybuilding to the pre-steroid era (test was ID'd in the late 19th C, isolated and invented around 1940 and used from 1950 or so). I can find photos of BIG strong and yes muscular fellas from 1850-1910 or so. So pre-steroids and when our population was a LOT smaller.

It's also generally accepted by those in the know that Ronnie didn't use anything right up until he placed dead last (17th or 18th) in the first Olympia he competed in. Compare those photos to when he won. He looked 'good' before but off the peg monstrous after. He went from 220-240 to 296-298. Both Kevin Levrone and Flex Wheeler tell stories about 'educating' him on 'tricks of the stage'. As soon as they did it was game over for them. Jay was BIG when he was 18 but a fkin freak when he was Mr O. I trained with a WSM competitor who got all the way to the finals natural. The next year he went on. He was mid-20's as you should be. He was also 300lbs at school as well as a county level rugby player, Table Tennis Champ (and coach) at 300+ and did Kung Fu. All pre-steds

Moze has it spot on. ALL steroids effect you - whether you're 18 as you are or 53 as I am. My test levels will be dropping off. Yours haven't peaked yet. Ergo wait until your 25.
 
Good luck finding a girl to marry when you will not be able to have kids. You are going to fuck up your reproductive health for the rest of your life. Do what you want but no one is ever going to tell you it is ok to use steroids at 18. Your balls haven't even dropped yet.
 
Mobster, do you use steroids now at age 53?

Masonic Bodybuilder, i can freeze sperm before i start my steroid cycle.

I rethink, and i will do 1 steroid cycle for kick start. More cycles i will do after i reach age 25.

So, tell me now from where i can buy 100% real steroids, without getting scam. If someone from here have personal experience with a online source, i would like to see the source. Firstly, i will see if bribery to some doctor will work - if no, i will try online source.

I also want to know what testosterone dose dont need aromatasa inhibitors.

I will start with a small dose.

And why nobody told me what medical researches i should do on my body before i start steroid cycle? Hiw can i know if im predisposed to heartcattack, stroke, prostate cancer and etc...
 
Dude if you are dedicated to doing something even though i don't recommend it till later - look into sarms

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And nothing is going to make your dick bigger. If that was the case people would use it as an injection site. You might end up shrinking your balls though lol

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And nothing is going to make your dick bigger. If that was the case people would use it as an injection site. You might end up shrinking your balls though lol
 
Dude if you are dedicated to doing something even though i don't recommend it till later - look into sarms

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And nothing is going to make your dick bigger. If that was the case people would use it as an injection site. You might end up shrinking your balls though lol

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And nothing is going to make your dick bigger. If that was the case people would use it as an injection site. You might end up shrinking your balls though lol

My penis already got big

SARMS are joke.
 
My penis already got big

SARMS are joke.

Both comments are. In fact you're acting like the child we said you were.

Your dick didn't get big. You said, quite clearly, that you lost weight so you can see more. Plus 16cm is about average (so not big... bigger).

And we've said BOTH steroids and sarms are a BAD idea for you right now.
 
Because i want to reach my genetic potential as fast as possible - i want nice muscles. When i was 12 years old, i was with overweight, which means i had low testosterone. I had no facial hair, no deep voice, my face looked like as kid face. When i became 16 years old, i decided to start taining. In less than 3 months i melted almost all the unwanted fat. Then i saw drastic changes - bigger penis, much more facial hair, darker eyebrows, deeper voice, more strenght, more erections, longer lasting, higher cheeckbones, square jaw and etc... just things that indicate higher testosterone.

When i was 13 years old, one of my friend (14 years old) looked like big guy - deep voice, facial hair and etc... due to the high testosterone. During this period, i looked like kid compared to him. I dont know can you understand me or no, but if when i was 12 years old i didnt was overweight, now i could look very different - for example:

1. If i didnt was overweight, now i could have much bigger penis.
2. If i didnt was overweight, now i could have fully grown facial hair.
3. If i didnt was overweight, now i could have much deeper voice.
4. If i didnt was overweight, now i could not have gyno.
5. Many more similar reasons to the reasons from point 1 to point 5.

When i was 12-13-14-15 years old, i ate only "junk food" and chickens full with synthetic estrogen and synthetic growth hormone - this is why i have very, very small gyno. The gyno can be seen by people who already know i have gyno. Yes, its undetectable, but its fact i have it. I wasted aroud 4-5 years eating and playing on the PC, while other guys fucked girls and etc activities.

Alright, i melted the fat and i get masculanization, ok! But if i didnt kill my testosterone for around 4-5 years, now i could be 1000 times more masculine. I know the body is developing to 22-25 years, this is why i want to go on testosterone as fast as possible - because i want to get fully masculine.

Another reasons why i want to go on testosterone:
1. I have small amount if fat aroud the stomach and the fat dont want to disappear.
2. I want to try how it feels.
3. I want see will the small gyno disappear.
4. I want to get fully developed secobdary male sex characteristics. If i hadnt kill my testosterone for 4-5 years, now i could have fully developed secondary male sex characteristics.
5. I have strong bone mineralization (even i have no caries), but i want stronger bones and bigger bone mass.
6. Sometimes, when i think about the wasted years, im getting depressed due to the high estrogen. Yes rarely im getting higher estrogen for about 30 minutes... My testosterone was dead for about 4-5 years and now its hard to bring it back easily.
7. Sometimes for about 30 minutes im getting low testosterone symptoms.
There are and more reasons for me to go on testosterone, but they are not very important so i wont share them.

Can you understand what im trying to say? Other boys joined puberty ate the age 12-13, im joining puberty at the age 18 litteraly. I know you cant understand what i want to say, english is not my native language.

My body is not fully developed, because i had low testosterone. My body started developing when i melted the fat, because then my testosteron was increased. Now i want to inject more testosterone to speed up the developing process. The body stops developing when i reach age 22, so i must start injecting testosterone before i reach age 22.

When i say cycle, i mean 100-150mg testosteron per week. Do you really think this small dose can damage me? There are people who takes 2 grams of testosterone and nothing happens to them... I will take only 100-150. I dont think this small amount will hurt me. Im healthy, i dont some and dont drink alchohol. I have never been in hospital, and i have never been sick in my life.

WARNING: i dont have delayed puberty or something like that.

you sound intelligent.. i mean being able to write out a long post in a foreign language is impressive, obviously you are well educated. but you simply are too smart for your own good which actually makes you stupid.

go use steroids man, have at it.
 
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you sound intelligent.. i mean being able to write out a long post in a foreign language is impressive, obviously you are well educated. but you simply are too smart for your own good which actually makes you stupid.

go use steroids man, have at it.

Are you kidding me? You wrote you have never seen so ignorant post and you also wrote im wrong almost everywhere in the post...

So, why? Where im wrong?

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Both comments are. In fact you're acting like the child we said you were.

Your dick didn't get big. You said, quite clearly, that you lost weight so you can see more. Plus 16cm is about average (so not big... bigger).

And we've said BOTH steroids and sarms are a BAD idea for you right now.

Its still growing

Yes, you told me and i appreciate it and also, i know you are right - but i will do 1 cycle.
 
I see the people here are serious, and i want to ask if someone have personal experience with online source and if yes - i want to see the source and buy my first cycle
 
Are you kidding me? You wrote you have never seen so ignorant post and you also wrote im wrong almost everywhere in the post...

So, why? Where im wrong?

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Its still growing

Yes, you told me and i appreciate it and also, i know you are right - but i will do 1 cycle.

Not with our ok. I for one will NOT help you with a source. I'd hope ANY Evo member worthy of the name wont either.
 
Not with our ok. I for one will NOT help you with a source. I'd hope ANY Evo member worthy of the name wont either.

Hi, Mobster. As i said earlier, i really appreciate that you want to stop me from hurting myself. Look, i live my life and i can make decisions with my brain. There is no need for you to tell me what to do, because i have enough brain.

You even dont know who am i, so you cant have emotional connection with me, you dont have to care too much about me. I am just a person, nothing special... and if somethong happen with my health, the only guy, who will know about the event - its me.

My quesrion is why you so much want to stop me from steroid use?

The easiest way is to check some reviews here (or in another site), but this is not guarrantee, because most of the fake steroids sellers write fake possite reviews about their websites - this is why im searching for people who have personal experience with a source/s. So, if you have personal experience, please show me the source, and dont care about me.. Im nobody for you. You should care about your family and the people you love, you know what im trying to tell you, right?
 
You think freezing sperm is the solution? Good luck with that. So your idea is that you will meet a girl, be with her for a while, and tell her " I cant impregnate you because I fucked around with steroids but don't worry, I have sperm frozen"? You think a girl is just going to be ok with that?
 
It's not hard to build muscle at age 18 with a good clean diet, solid compound program and lots of sleep. You'll grow faster that way than with a trt dose of test. If your concerned about low test at age 18 you better see a trt doc and get it confirmed. If he finds you have low test it's probably something a little more serious than wonky hormones. There will be something causing that at your age. I could give two fucks if you wind of with none working nuts. My advice is do what all of us do. Lurk the source page look for solid reviews. Make a buddy or two and show them your can be trusted and that you have a solid grasp on gear and pct. Low t sucks, I know. Try gyno 😎
 
Hi, Mobster. As i said earlier, i really appreciate that you want to stop me from hurting myself. Look, i live my life and i can make decisions with my brain. There is no need for you to tell me what to do, because i have enough brain.

You even dont know who am i, so you cant have emotional connection with me, you dont have to care too much about me. I am just a person, nothing special... and if somethong happen with my health, the only guy, who will know about the event - its me.

My quesrion is why you so much want to stop me from steroid use?

The easiest way is to check some reviews here (or in another site), but this is not guarrantee, because most of the fake steroids sellers write fake possite reviews about their websites - this is why im searching for people who have personal experience with a source/s. So, if you have personal experience, please show me the source, and dont care about me.. Im nobody for you. You should care about your family and the people you love, you know what im trying to tell you, right?

Wrong. Let me explain (as I have done in two similar posts recently):
Others have told you you'll regret it. Wanna know how they know (and I'm including the mod who suggested you check the source section) cos they fucked up. That mod is on TRT FOR LIFE because they used at 18. I wrote how I've seen, over the 20+ years I've been on forums, many, many members around your age be all gung-ho NOW. Only to change their minds as they matured. Just because you say 'it's up to me' doesn't mean I have to agree. Mods and other members who reply have, whether anyone realizes or not, a responsibility to others.

Further, if you 'have a brain' (a little Wizard of Oz eh), then you'll be able to see why steroids etc become scheduled. Part of that was use by those too young to be using. So the feds LOVE it if we're foolish enough to publically state how you can do what you like and not only say how but then tell you where to buy gear from.

You might not thank me now but you WILL thank me later.
 
Wrong. Let me explain (as I have done in two similar posts recently):
Others have told you you'll regret it. Wanna know how they know (and I'm including the mod who suggested you check the source section) cos they fucked up. That mod is on TRT FOR LIFE because they used at 18. I wrote how I've seen, over the 20+ years I've been on forums, many, many members around your age be all gung-ho NOW. Only to change their minds as they matured. Just because you say 'it's up to me' doesn't mean I have to agree. Mods and other members who reply have, whether anyone realizes or not, a responsibility to others.

Further, if you 'have a brain' (a little Wizard of Oz eh), then you'll be able to see why steroids etc become scheduled. Part of that was use by those too young to be using. So the feds LOVE it if we're foolish enough to publically state how you can do what you like and not only say how but then tell you where to buy gear from.

You might not thank me now but you WILL thank me later.

Yes, i know that.

But im talking about only one cycle. Im not talking about long cycle, high doses and etc. I just cant believe only one short kick-start cycle could hurt me, but if you say so, ok.

TRT have a lot of benefits.

Masonic Bodybuilder, yes every girl will be ok, im 99% sure man

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What about fbi? So, the sources at the review section are not real at all?
 
Yes, i know that.

But im talking about only one cycle. Im not talking about long cycle, high doses and etc. I just cant believe only one short kick-start cycle could hurt me, but if you say so, ok.

TRT have a lot of benefits.

Masonic Bodybuilder, yes every girl will be ok, im 99% sure man

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What about fbi? So, the sources at the review section are not real at all?

Nothing to do with that. You said you have a brain. Yet you want me to explain the difference between informing grown ass men (and women) about where, if they wish to break the law, they might purchase steroids vs informing a child (you) to do the same.

And not everyone on a forum accessible by ALL the world would be braking the law. I live in the UK. We've members who live in India and others who are off to visit Thailand. Read other posts
 
Oh and every girl will be ok with it... lol. Here's how that will go (ready??):

Hey baby... I can fuck no worries (with my 16.5cm penis). But I can't actually get you pregnant. Here's why... I didn't listen to the guys on Evo and so (although you'll need to do this BEFORE the cycle) had my spunk frozen. So here's a chicken baster... open those legs wide... where you going... come back... what about our children...??

Good luck with persuading them IVF is 'awesome' cos you NEEDED to use steroids age 18.
 
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