First Injectable Cycle Input

[David23]

Just turned 34 yesterday and think it's time...

Stats:
Age: 34
Height:6' 1"
Weight: 192lbs
BF%: Not sure, would says 15%
Been lifting on and off for 7 years (Solid for 2, minus some time off per doctor request)
Prior experience: Have run multiple oral cycles and seen good gians but ready to pin
Goal: Maximize size and strength gains. Idealy I want to walk around at 230ish (long road ahwead of me).
Diet: Dirty right now but keeping a balance of 40% protein, 30% carb, 30% fats at about 4000cals. Will clean up and increase intake

Been thinking of 2 options, either running a solo Test cycle or do a Tren/Test Stack. I know I may get flamed for first time timer thinking of using Tren but, I couldn't pass it up. Soooo.....seeking input as I plan to start in maybe a month or so given my research time and getting it ironed out to my liking.

Should I run Test only or OK to stack with Tren Ace?

Suggestions on PCT as that's where my knowledge lacks and I know how important it is.

Cheers

 

[Gearhead13#2]

Just test man, no need to dive in the deep end just yet. Tren has some real harsh sides save it for future cycles.

 

[Flecks13]

1. If your guessing your around 15%, your probly higher.
2. If your diet is messy, inconsistent, and not clean dont do a cycle, your not gonna get what you want out of it. especially not with test e youll just look like a baloon.
3. I shouldn't even list 1 or 2. if your gonna hop on Tren for your first cycle ever you should really do a lot more research and understand what a poor decision that is. you deserved to get flamed.

First cycle man you should just run Test E at 500mgs, see how you respond.
I wouldnt add anything else, maybe anavar if your really feeling dangerous.

personally I think you have alot of thigns you should fix and clean up before you hop on gear. juice isnt the magic potion everyone thinks it is. if you eat like shit and train like shit on juice your still gonna look like shit.
you need to have the basics down before you can fully utilize these drugs.
there built to push past your genetic limits and I have a feeling you havent reached plateauts yet.

Just trying to help you out man,
best of luck with whatever you decide and stay safe. Just trying to give you a little background.
If you have any questions feel free to ask and Ill be glad to give you some advice.

 

[Bigbird138]

Yeah, I'd listen to Flecks. He's giving you some good advice.

Wanna get Krazie?

 

[David23]

1. If your guessing your around 15%, your probly higher.
2. If your diet is messy, inconsistent, and not clean dont do a cycle, your not gonna get what you want out of it. especially not with test e youll just look like a baloon.
3. I shouldn't even list 1 or 2. if your gonna hop on Tren for your first cycle ever you should really do a lot more research and understand what a poor decision that is. you deserved to get flamed.

First cycle man you should just run Test E at 500mgs, see how you respond.
I wouldnt add anything else, maybe anavar if your really feeling dangerous.

personally I think you have alot of thigns you should fix and clean up before you hop on gear. juice isnt the magic potion everyone thinks it is. if you eat like shit and train like shit on juice your still gonna look like shit.
you need to have the basics down before you can fully utilize these drugs.
there built to push past your genetic limits and I have a feeling you havent reached plateauts yet.

Just trying to help you out man,
best of luck with whatever you decide and stay safe. Just trying to give you a little background.
If you have any questions feel free to ask and Ill be glad to give you some advice.

Appreciate the honesty. If i didn't want the honesty I'd be like the typical poster that jumps on here and says "here's what I'm doing" and then argues with everyone when they give advice. I asked for input, and you gave it. Much appreciated. Not lookin to do anything stupid but since I have the Tren in my stash, I might as well get the reality check to save for later.

Diet is just dirty now, my fiance is a nutrition major and keeps me consistent but damn it I like pizza and pasta. Other than that I bring 2 6packk bags with me to work every day and all meals are weighed an measured during prep.

 

[Flecks13]

anytime bro,
You can always sell me the tren or trade it to someone for some anavar. that would be a nice addition to your first cycle.

just wana gauge how your body responds. any sides and things like that first cycle so easy to start with something not so harsh like tren instead of jumping to the mac daddy hormone tren which has tons of sides.

if its your first cycle your gonna get plenty of gains and feel great on anything you do so might as well save the tren for later down the road a couple cycles when your plateauing a little bit.

 

[megamanmuscle]

Out of curiosity, what oral cycles did you run and how did you respond?

 

[ironlou]

pizza and pasta has its place but generally its not a big place in an AAS cycle, if you plan for it after a workout its one thing to have a burger or pizza, but you really need to watch what your eating or like flecks said youll end up puffy and bloated...not a good look lol

clean your diet up for 12 weeks and see where your at, flecks said what needed to be said already
best of luck to you bro

 

[lancer55]

Flecks gave solid advice, as for your PCT use nolva/clomid and make sure you have an AI on hand. Do not start until you have your pct and AI on hand.

 

[MikeSnow]

Everything Flex said was good knowledge and advice.. I always recommend Test only as a first cycle, usually around 500mg/week for 12 weeks, no need to go any higher.. if your diet and training is on point you SHOULD blow up

 

[stevesmi]

post up a picture bro and we can give you your body fat.. just do tinypic and edit out your face

 

[RickRock]

There's no need for anything other than test for your first cycle. You will grow like hell on that provided you have the right diet and training to go with it. Make sure to run aromasin and N2guard on cycle and follow up with proper PCT

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[hard2handle]

Test e is the only test that I've had a hard time with. Would have been an absolutely terrible (first) experience. jm2c

sore I mean

 

[JackSteel]

I would get an accurate BF assessment before you start. If you're about 15% it's not wise to start a cycle now. I also advise against tren for a second cycle.


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[Shrine]

Test/Var would be a great starter cycle.. I wouldn't even consider trying tren until you know how you react to AAS