First post. First cycle: Test-C only

[JCUSN]

Hey everyone. I've been entertaining using gear for a couple years and finally pulled the trigger last week. I went to get a prescription for TRT, then just purchased my own stuff so I can inject more but still have a prescription should should I get in any trouble.

Per research I've done...I'm doing a taper with the test cypionate:
Week 1: 100mg
Week 2: 200mg
Week 3: 300mg
Week 4-12: 400mg
Week 13: 300mg
Week 14: 300mg
Week 15: 200mg
Week 16: 100mg

Week 18-22: 50mg Clomid

HCG: 200iu Mon/Wed/Fri

I've been lifting for years and lost a TON of weight. For a long time I was over weight, then skinny fat...and now I'm finally lean. I'm only 5'10", 145 pounds, 33 years old. I've resorted to using gear because of my age and because it seems anytime I actually tried to "bulk" I just ended up fat. I tried the tested 300-500 calorie weekly increase, and it seems no matter what I did, I just put on fat. Hopefully gear will prevent that.

I've upped my calories to 3100. 100 fat, 275 carb, 275 protein

My routine is:
Mon - legs
Tues - chest
Wed - legs
Thur - shoulders
Fri - arms
Sat - rest
Sun - climb/hike a 1600' mountain

I do HIIT three times a week in the form of dead mill sprints.

So far, I'm a week in and already up 6 pounds!

How does everything look?

 

[muskate]

There is quite a bit wrong with your cycle lay out and cycle plans.

First off - if you are on TRT, there is no need for a PCT. After your cycle you simply return to your TRT dosage.

Second - you need an AI included in your cycle to keep estrogen in the low-normal range. This will prevent estrogen related side effects like gyno and water retention. Aromasin is the best choice of an AI since it is a suicide AI. There will be no estrogen rebound when you discontinue usage and it will also increase free testosterone levels.

Third - there is no need to tailor up and down your dosage. Just stick with the whole dosage throughout.

A simple testosterone cycle of 10-12 weeks at 400-500mg/week is your best option for a first cycle.

Here's what I recommend:

Weeks 1 - 10
testosterone cyp 400mg/week
aromasin 12.5mg every other day

After the 10 week cycle, return to your TRT dosage for at least 10 weeks and then you can do a second cycle.

 

[JCUSN]

There is quite a bit wrong with your cycle lay out and cycle plans.

First off - if you are on TRT, there is no need for a PCT. After your cycle you simply return to your TRT dosage.

Second - you need an AI included in your cycle to keep estrogen in the low-normal range. This will prevent estrogen related side effects like gyno and water retention. Aromasin is the best choice of an AI since it is a suicide AI. There will be no estrogen rebound when you discontinue usage and it will also increase free testosterone levels.

Third - there is no need to tailor up and down your dosage. Just stick with the whole dosage throughout.

A simple testosterone cycle of 10-12 weeks at 400-500mg/week is your best option for a first cycle.

Here's what I recommend:

Weeks 1 - 10
testosterone cyp 400mg/week
aromasin 12.5mg every other day

After the 10 week cycle, return to your TRT dosage for at least 10 weeks and then you can do a second cycle.

Thanks for your response! I'm going to order an AI now.

Also, I've noticed after just completing two weeks (300 total mg) that I've got ED and very low libido. My girlfriend and I literally just tried to have sex and I went limp inside of her. It was fucking horrible. Can this Test-C be causing it? It's the only thing that has changed.

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ any time you change hormones you can definately have changes to your sex life

gaining 6 pounds in just 1 week is NOT GOOD at all. most of that is water weight and that puts pressure on your heart health hence why you are having a hard time getting hard.

i totally don't agree with what you are doing here. with your stats you simply do not need steroids and in this case it is backfiring on you. you can easily put on a lot of mass naturally

 

[JCUSN]

^^^ any time you change hormones you can definately have changes to your sex life

gaining 6 pounds in just 1 week is NOT GOOD at all. most of that is water weight and that puts pressure on your heart health hence why you are having a hard time getting hard.

i totally don't agree with what you are doing here. with your stats you simply do not need steroids and in this case it is backfiring on you. you can easily put on a lot of mass naturally

Thanks for your reply, man.

Since I'm only 2 weeks in and only 250mg total injected, would it be safe for me to just stop taking everything entirely now? Would I need a PCT?

 

[stevesmi]

Thanks for your reply, man.

Since I'm only 2 weeks in and only 250mg total injected, would it be safe for me to just stop taking everything entirely now? Would I need a PCT?

yes the sooner you stop the sooner you will get recovered.. if you just ran a bottle of hcgenerate for pct you will be fine.

 

[Fit_PharmD]

I would definitely not taper up and down like that throughout the course of your cycle. Pick a dose between 400mg-600mg and go with that for the entirety of your cycle. The benefits of this is simply to keep your hormone levels consistant. This in turn will keep other hormone levels relatively stable, although some like estrogen, DHT, PSA will become elevated if you do not take precautionary measures (aka ancillary meds to combat this.)
The initial weight gain is most likely water, which is a very common side effect of steroid use. Do not worry about this unless you have high blood pressure, its just part of the process really. Muscle cells take a few weeks to begin replicating and forming so in time you will begin to see this on top of the water retention you are experiencing.

As for losing your erection, that is almost assuredly associated with your recent addition of exogenous testosterone to your system. Honestly, most individuals experience an increase in labido and find they get erections much easier when their test levels are elevated. However, it sounds like you are not combating the side effects of test metabolism, which is increased estrogen mainly. This will absolutely cause problems in that area, so get your hands on an aromatase inhibitor STAT and once you begin taking this your problem should cease to be a problem and you may find you want to have sex a whole lot more lol. Hope this helps and keep me posted.

 

[JCUSN]

yes the sooner you stop the sooner you will get recovered.. if you just ran a bottle of hcgenerate for pct you will be fine.

I already have some actual HCG...would that be just as good as running a bottle of hcgenerate?

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I would definitely not taper up and down like that throughout the course of your cycle. Pick a dose between 400mg-600mg and go with that for the entirety of your cycle. The benefits of this is simply to keep your hormone levels consistant. This in turn will keep other hormone levels relatively stable, although some like estrogen, DHT, PSA will become elevated if you do not take precautionary measures (aka ancillary meds to combat this.)
The initial weight gain is most likely water, which is a very common side effect of steroid use. Do not worry about this unless you have high blood pressure, its just part of the process really. Muscle cells take a few weeks to begin replicating and forming so in time you will begin to see this on top of the water retention you are experiencing.

As for losing your erection, that is almost assuredly associated with your recent addition of exogenous testosterone to your system. Honestly, most individuals experience an increase in labido and find they get erections much easier when their test levels are elevated. However, it sounds like you are not combating the side effects of test metabolism, which is increased estrogen mainly. This will absolutely cause problems in that area, so get your hands on an aromatase inhibitor STAT and once you begin taking this your problem should cease to be a problem and you may find you want to have sex a whole lot more lol. Hope this helps and keep me posted.

What can I use to keep the DHT and PSA down? I have Arimidex. What should I dose to combat the symptoms I've described?

Also...will these estrogen levels stay high even after stopping all test injections? I want to just go back to normal after this cycle.

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

No need to stress. If you want to come off just run HCGenerate and you will be fine. No need for HCG because it will only suppress you further. Just use the supplement because it is a natural test booster and not hormonal. You will be fine.

 

[Jay Scott]

Im sorry but your cycle looks awful. Both the Testosterone and the HCG outlay. Just wrong.

First of all, do not taper your test. Take a steady amount throughout the cycle and keep it that way. I would do 400mg/week for the whole cycle.

Secondly, HCG has to be injected twice a week, and I would always recommend 250-500ius per shot. This way you give a pulses and your balls do not stop working during your anabolic cycles.

Third, I see no AI. You might regret this once you develop bitch tits. A best choice for an AI is aromasin (10mg/EOD is a good starting dose and you get can get it from ag-guys).

Finally, PCT looks weak bro. And in the end, why do you need one if you are on TRT?

 

[12Rossja]

5'10 145 lbs? I'm hoping you're dangerously lean right? Like 4%? Also what are your lifts like?
There's alot that looks off here.. noone just "gets fat" unless they're overeating, trust me I do it every bulk for strength.. go in a 250 calorie surplus, bulk for a year straight. If you're gaining more then half a pound per week on a 250 surplus you are overestimating your maintanance.

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[JCUSN]

Im sorry but your cycle looks awful. Both the Testosterone and the HCG outlay. Just wrong.

First of all, do not taper your test. Take a steady amount throughout the cycle and keep it that way. I would do 400mg/week for the whole cycle.

Secondly, HCG has to be injected twice a week, and I would always recommend 250-500ius per shot. This way you give a pulses and your balls do not stop working during your anabolic cycles.

Third, I see no AI. You might regret this once you develop bitch tits. A best choice for an AI is aromasin (10mg/EOD is a good starting dose and you get can get it from ag-guys).

Finally, PCT looks weak bro. And in the end, why do you need one if you are on TRT?

Thanks for your reply, man. I have arimidex on hand now, but no Aromasin is that decent enough?

Also, I just want to come off this and go back to normal. I'm done messing with my hormones. Should I continue to take HCG for recovery or just stop taking everything as I've only injected a total of 250mg Test C over the last two weeks? Do I really need PCT at this point?

 

[muskate]

Thanks for your reply, man. I have arimidex on hand now, but no Aromasin is that decent enough?

Also, I just want to come off this and go back to normal. I'm done messing with my hormones. Should I continue to take HCG for recovery or just stop taking everything as I've only injected a total of 250mg Test C over the last two weeks? Do I really need PCT at this point?

Aromasin is a better choice then arimidex but both can be used. 0.5mg of arimidex = 10mg of aromasin.

First off - STOP the HCG. HCG is a form of estrogen and is suppressive of natural testosterone production.

Since you have only injected 250mg of testosterone, get off everything and run a bottle of a good natural testosterone booster like HCGenerate ES from n2bm.com as a mini PCT. Order it now so it gets delivered this week. Get off everything and as soon as the HCGenerate ES comes in, dose 5 capsules/day for 30 days.

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

Arimidex will do if that's all you have but go with aromasin next time. With arimidex you are always at risk for estrogen rebound and it also destroys your cholesterol.

 

[Jay Scott]

Thanks for your reply, man. I have arimidex on hand now, but no Aromasin is that decent enough?

Also, I just want to come off this and go back to normal. I'm done messing with my hormones. Should I continue to take HCG for recovery or just stop taking everything as I've only injected a total of 250mg Test C over the last two weeks? Do I really need PCT at this point?

You might get away without PCT as it was one injection. If I were you, I would just do some more homework before next time or find a good coach who could lead you through this process.

In any case, sorry if at the beginning it sounded a bit 'off', but we are all trying to help you here.

 

[sisir012]

your cycle look like a TRT simple test c cycle should be 500mg test c with ai .AI is very importent when you run test so you must take AI take care