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cb123

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Hey everyone,

noobie here, first post.. Sorry if I broke a rule I'll fix it.

I've been doing my research for quite some time now on how to attack my pubertal gyno. Ralox, Letro, Nolva, Anastrazole, etc.. I've considered it all, yet never committed. I unfortunately just lost health insurance and should have ran labs beforehand, but if anyone has any recommendations on how to do so thru the net please PM! I am taking this protocol very seriously as I am a 26 year old trying get rid of this shit. I plan on running a first time Test-E cycle 6 mo. (year if need be/recommended) or so after I hopefully rid this nightmare. Never used any injections, however I did use a topical 'Forma Stanzol' a few years back.. I used it obviously with pre-existing gyno and it didn't exactly worsen it, but just figured I'd mention what I've ran.

I've looked over the reversal protocol v.3 for the past month or and I've also ran into some confusion as to why I should run Letro and Nolva at the same time, wouldnt you want to do that around tapering of the Letro?

I'm sure you've all had enough of the bitch tit threads but I can't take this shit anymore. It's getting to my head WAY too much. Any personal experience is highly recommended. And in a weird way pics would help me out for sure, paint a picture for what positive / negative could happen.



Much appreciated!
 
cb123 said:
Hey everyone,

noobie here, first post.. Sorry if I broke a rule I'll fix it.

I've been doing my research for quite some time now on how to attack my pubertal gyno. Ralox, Letro, Nolva, Anastrazole, etc.. I've considered it all, yet never committed. I unfortunately just lost health insurance and should have ran labs beforehand, but if anyone has any recommendations on how to do so thru the net please PM! I am taking this protocol very seriously as I am a 26 year old trying get rid of this shit. I plan on running a first time Test-E cycle 6 mo. (year if need be/recommended) or so after I hopefully rid this nightmare. Never used any injections, however I did use a topical 'Forma Stanzol' a few years back.. I used it obviously with pre-existing gyno and it didn't exactly worsen it, but just figured I'd mention what I've ran.

I've looked over the reversal protocol v.3 for the past month or and I've also ran into some confusion as to why I should run Letro and Nolva at the same time, wouldnt you want to do that around tapering of the Letro?

I'm sure you've all had enough of the bitch tit threads but I can't take this shit anymore. It's getting to my head WAY too much. Any personal experience is highly recommended. And in a weird way pics would help me out for sure, paint a picture for what positive / negative could happen.



Much appreciated!
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First of all - welcome aboard. To start with - try running the anti gyno protocol fully as it is explained. If that doesnt do the trick, the only way to fix it is a surgery.

Secondly, do not run a cycle before you fix your gyno, otherwise the problem will only get much much worse. A cycle of 6 months sounds wayy too long, let alone a year. Do some more reading upon how to properly cycle, a lot of people here are willing to help regarding that.

And finally, good luck with fixing it, its a very shitty thing to have so the sooner you get rid of it, the better.
 
running the nolvadex and letro together has a synergestic effect.. i completely agree with it.

the run is going to be a bit uncomfortable.. expect mood and libido drops.. but you gotta get rid of the bitch tits and deal with it. I am a big advocate of solving bitch tits first because it will only cause you grief
 
Jay Scott said:
First of all - welcome aboard. To start with - try running the anti gyno protocol fully as it is explained. If that doesnt do the trick, the only way to fix it is a surgery.

Secondly, do not run a cycle before you fix your gyno, otherwise the problem will only get much much worse. A cycle of 6 months sounds wayy too long, let alone a year. Do some more reading upon how to properly cycle, a lot of people here are willing to help regarding that.

And finally, good luck with fixing it, its a very shitty thing to have so the sooner you get rid of it, the better.
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Thank you for your reply!

Sorry for the confusion, I meant that SHOULD this Gyno reversal protocol work on me, after 6 mo. of no bitch tits I'm considering running some gear. And a year wait after no sign of bitch tits to run gear is what some may recommend as well..

I am not looking to run a cycle while I have this condition**
 
stevesmi said:
running the nolvadex and letro together has a synergestic effect.. i completely agree with it.

the run is going to be a bit uncomfortable.. expect mood and libido drops.. but you gotta get rid of the bitch tits and deal with it. I am a big advocate of solving bitch tits first because it will only cause you grief
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Theoretically I would agree, but I've also read a bunch online where others have been wondering the same if it weakens the Letro, etc.

But I will run the v.3 protocol to the T and will log the process in about a month after I buy everything so that there is a fresh batch of information.

Yeah I've considered surgery for the past 5 years. Too much money. Though I'm sure it's absolutely worth it, I am going to give this a run first to see if there is hope. Numerous cases I've read online people saying the same thing "when they get cold it's almost as if I don't have it" . Tired of living that life. I want to bulk, run shit without feeling like I could probably feed a baby calf.

Sides are expected as I've read those online. My other concern is Letro and Nolvas effect on WBC . If any negative effect please, anyone, let me know, as I have ulcerative colitis and wouldn't want to cause a flare.

Appreciate the replies! Definitely going to stick around this board for sure.
 
cb123 said:
Theoretically I would agree, but I've also read a bunch online where others have been wondering the same if it weakens the Letro, etc.

But I will run the v.3 protocol to the T and will log the process in about a month after I buy everything so that there is a fresh batch of information.

Yeah I've considered surgery for the past 5 years. Too much money. Though I'm sure it's absolutely worth it, I am going to give this a run first to see if there is hope. Numerous cases I've read online people saying the same thing "when they get cold it's almost as if I don't have it" . Tired of living that life. I want to bulk, run shit without feeling like I could probably feed a baby calf.

Sides are expected as I've read those online. My other concern is Letro and Nolvas effect on WBC . If any negative effect please, anyone, let me know, as I have ulcerative colitis and wouldn't want to cause a flare.

Appreciate the replies! Definitely going to stick around this board for sure.
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Letrozole and nolvadex will have no effect on WBC or the immune system. Nolvadex is medically prescribed to breast cancer patients who have weakened immune systems.

Run the anti gyno protocol exactly as laid out in this article here -> http://www.evolutionary.org/anti-gynecomastia-cure-version-3

If you run the protocol exactly as laid out, I doubt you will need surgery. Gyno surgery should be used as a last resort. It's very expensive and a pretty invasive surgery. You will be out of the gym for at least 2 weeks after the surgery.
 
muskate said:
Letrozole and nolvadex will have no effect on WBC or the immune system. Nolvadex is medically prescribed to breast cancer patients who have weakened immune systems.

Run the anti gyno protocol exactly as laid out in this article here -> http://www.evolutionary.org/anti-gynecomastia-cure-version-3

If you run the protocol exactly as laid out, I doubt you will need surgery. Gyno surgery should be used as a last resort. It's very expensive and a pretty invasive surgery. You will be out of the gym for at least 2 weeks after the surgery.
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Haven't been able to find much research and I figured that as well just didn't read much up on it.

Yeah I've got that protocol saved and ready, just need to buy supplies. Wondering how much of each to get as well. I figured I'd start it around December, so I'll have a log then. I hope surgery isn't necessary, and hopefully there's enough positive runs at it cause I'm not trying to really see everyone's pics of the shit but at the same time it would help.

Appreciate the reply!
 
Great job waiting for your cycle. It is always the best bet to get rid of the gyno first before cycling. You saved yourself from making the gyno much worse. I agree with running the anti gyno protocol. Logging your progress would be awesome too.
 
Masonic Bodybuilder said:
Great job waiting for your cycle. It is always the best bet to get rid of the gyno first before cycling. You saved yourself from making the gyno much worse. I agree with running the anti gyno protocol. Logging your progress would be awesome too.
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Thanks for the reply man!

Yeah it's been a constant battle both with others I know around using and me being in this position, as well as not being able to explain why I'm not using.. Kinda shitty. Figured forma would somewhat help and that's about the extent to what Ive used.

Will definitely be following the protocol and logging, but if anyone can chime in or PM me how many of each I should be getting would be greatly appreciated! And also the amount. I know to some it's an easy conversion but I was not born the smartest 😜

Thanks again!!
 
Good luck on your anti-gyno cycle - I am sure that it will help you big time if you follow it to the letter. It has been designed very thoroughly based on scientific studies, so each compound in the stack has its role to play.

Looking forward to seeing your log - would be nice to see before and after pics.
 
LevButlerov said:
Good luck on your anti-gyno cycle - I am sure that it will help you big time if you follow it to the letter. It has been designed very thoroughly based on scientific studies, so each compound in the stack has its role to play.

Looking forward to seeing your log - would be nice to see before and after pics.
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Thanks man, I'm hyped to get it going and will definitely log!



** Anyone! ** any info on how many of each product I should get for the v.3 protocol is greatly appreciated !
 
cb123 said:
Thanks man, I'm hyped to get it going and will definitely log!



** Anyone! ** any info on how many of each product I should get for the v.3 protocol is greatly appreciated !
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bro you mean for the gyno v3 protocol? how long you plan to do it brother is most important
 
gearhead said:
bro you mean for the gyno v3 protocol? how long you plan to do it brother is most important
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Yes I am about to be running that protocol, would like to know roughly how many each but I mean how long I'm not quite sure. As long as it takes. And I'm sure that'll probably mean like 3 months or so tops..?

Hypothetically if I chose to run it for 2-3 months how much of each would I need? Also, if nothing changes in 3 months should I keep trying or give up at that point?

Anything helps guys. I appreciate everyone's time. Definitely want to get this shit over with so I can live a normal life.
 
cb123 said:
Yes I am about to be running that protocol, would like to know roughly how many each but I mean how long I'm not quite sure. As long as it takes. And I'm sure that'll probably mean like 3 months or so tops..?

Hypothetically if I chose to run it for 2-3 months how much of each would I need? Also, if nothing changes in 3 months should I keep trying or give up at that point?

Anything helps guys. I appreciate everyone's time. Definitely want to get this shit over with so I can live a normal life.
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Follow the protocol exactly as laid out in the article -> http://www.evolutionary.org/anti-gynecomastia-cure-version-3

The protocol takes 10 weeks. You will need 3 of each item in the protocol in order to run the protocol the full 10 weeks. SARMS1.com has buy 2 get 1 free options so it works out perfectly for you!

THe rest of the protocol you can order from ag-guys.com and needtobuildmuscle.com
 
muskate said:
Follow the protocol exactly as laid out in the article -> http://www.evolutionary.org/anti-gynecomastia-cure-version-3

The protocol takes 10 weeks. You will need 3 of each item in the protocol in order to run the protocol the full 10 weeks. SARMS1.com has buy 2 get 1 free options so it works out perfectly for you!

THe rest of the protocol you can order from ag-guys.com and needtobuildmuscle.com
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I would get everything from ag-guys and run the protocol for the whole 10 weeks, no risk of getting bunk stuff
 
Jay Scott said:
I would get everything from ag-guys and run the protocol for the whole 10 weeks, no risk of getting bunk stuff
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Wonderful , thanks homie!! 🙌🏽

muskate said:
Follow the protocol exactly as laid out in the article -> http://www.evolutionary.org/anti-gynecomastia-cure-version-3

The protocol takes 10 weeks. You will need 3 of each item in the protocol in order to run the protocol the full 10 weeks. SARMS1.com has buy 2 get 1 free options so it works out perfectly for you!

THe rest of the protocol you can order from ag-guys.com and needtobuildmuscle.com
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Thank you for your reply! Means a lot man, looking to get started mid November now should everything arrive!
 
cb123 said:
Yes I am about to be running that protocol, would like to know roughly how many each but I mean how long I'm not quite sure. As long as it takes. And I'm sure that'll probably mean like 3 months or so tops..?

Hypothetically if I chose to run it for 2-3 months how much of each would I need? Also, if nothing changes in 3 months should I keep trying or give up at that point?

Anything helps guys. I appreciate everyone's time. Definitely want to get this shit over with so I can live a normal life.
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also to add to what has been said the protocol might be a bit uncomfortable. but push through it.. anytime you drop your estrogen levels hard it can cause changes to libido, mood, and strength. the good news this is temporary until the gyno is addressed.
 
stevesmi said:
also to add to what has been said the protocol might be a bit uncomfortable. but push through it.. anytime you drop your estrogen levels hard it can cause changes to libido, mood, and strength. the good news this is temporary until the gyno is addressed.
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That I've read and understand, but it's worth it. If the protocol is expected to be around 3 months, is there any noted log or protocol so to say for when to run the full dose or run til they disappear then taper ..? Just don't want to have not enough on hand, and also not sure of how to convert so I know how much to take with dropper.

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If all goes as planned and I can get an understanding on dropper/how much to take per (so I don't take too much, or don't have enough on hand) I will be running protocol Dec 1st the latest.

Appreciate all the help so far guys!
 
The bottles will have labels and a dropper inside. Cardarine for example is 20mg/ml. The dropper is a 1ml dropper. If you wanted 20mg then you would take 1ml, if you wanted 10mg then you would take .5ml. Use that as a guide.
 
Since you are all set, it would be awesome to see a log of yours. I have seen this log help many people out, so it would be good to see it help yet another guy again.
 
Masonic Bodybuilder said:
The bottles will have labels and a dropper inside. Cardarine for example is 20mg/ml. The dropper is a 1ml dropper. If you wanted 20mg then you would take 1ml, if you wanted 10mg then you would take .5ml. Use that as a guide.
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Thanks big time man!. Can't find the Cardarine or n2 either..

LevButlerov said:
Since you are all set, it would be awesome to see a log of yours. I have seen this log help many people out, so it would be good to see it help yet another guy again.
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Absolutely, I won't short y'all.

sisir012 said:
Agree with lev take cr

good luck
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And thank you!
 
Anti gyno protocal would be the best option

Eat Healthy Think Better
 
Ttt

got 2 bottles of nolva, tryin to locate a source and a person who knows about the regime

Looking to start In the next week or two !

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Source for n2 and card***

Also anyone ever ran with erase pro plus?

Ttt
 
cb123 said:
Ttt

got 2 bottles of nolva, tryin to locate a source and a person who knows about the regime

Looking to start In the next week or two !

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Source for n2 and card***

Also anyone ever ran with erase pro plus?

Ttt
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Here is the link to the anti gyno protocol -> https://www.evolutionary.org/anti-gynecomastia-cure-version-3

You can order everything you need for the protocol from ag-guys.com, sarms1.com and n2bm.com. All 3 companies ship internationally.
 
Thanks will do. Having difficulty narrowing down the yohimflame if not banned as well as n2guard if I can't get from sarms1

Ttt looking to blast ASAP!!

Also how much of Cardarine and n2 guard to get, as well as yohimflame. I'll be having 3 btls nolva, and 3 letro to aim for 2-3 mo. Just need clarification so I have everything on hand and no chance of rebound!!
 
Sourced everything but yohimflame; any input on that is appreciated!

Other than conversion so I know how much to take in the dropper, id say I'm good to go!
 
cb123 said:
Good looks!!
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Apply it on the stomach and lower back before exercising (in most cases those are the stubborn fat areas).

Make sure to wait a few minutes before putting a shirt on so it would soak into the skin. It helps with targeting fat stores in the places applied, but keep in mind you have to be in caloric deficit and still have to exercise.
 
cb123 said:
Sourced everything but yohimflame; any input on that is appreciated!

Other than conversion so I know how much to take in the dropper, id say I'm good to go!
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You can order yohiflame directly from n2bm.com.

Once you get your products, post up a thread and we will explain how to measure out your dosages with the dropper in the vial.
 
Jay Scott said:
Apply it on the stomach and lower back before exercising (in most cases those are the stubborn fat areas).

Make sure to wait a few minutes before putting a shirt on so it would soak into the skin. It helps with targeting fat stores in the places applied, but keep in mind you have to be in caloric deficit and still have to exercise.
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Cool man will do as well as chest area I'm sure too right ?? Just wondering


muskate said:
You can order yohiflame directly from n2bm.com.

Once you get your products, post up a thread and we will explain how to measure out your dosages with the dropper in the vial.
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Will do!! only a few more things to go and I'll start a new thread once I'm ready. Looking forward to it all, hoping it's worth the stack!!
 
cb123 said:
Cool man will do as well as chest area I'm sure too right ?? Just wondering





Will do!! only a few more things to go and I'll start a new thread once I'm ready. Looking forward to it all, hoping it's worth the stack!!
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You can technically apply on chest area, but I think that would be kinda over-doing it. Id say belly and lower back is enough.
 
Geez okay all this stuff is truly that strong ?? Hoping this cures me of my stubborn belly/back fat as well as chest !! It's weird man cause my nipps can be cold and normal looking but then once I'm say out the shower they change
 
cb123 said:
Geez okay all this stuff is truly that strong ?? Hoping this cures me of my stubborn belly/back fat as well as chest !! It's weird man cause my nipps can be cold and normal looking but then once I'm say out the shower they change
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Turn your brain off. Trust on all of this. Just run the protocol exactly as laid out. It has helped hundreds of people in your exact situation.

Keep us updated on your progress!
 
Wishing you the best of luck man. I have TERRIBLE gyno from puberty then through irresponsibility when younger and it has ruined my life for real. Can't afford surgery and on week 4 of the protocol and no results here, so I for sure feel your pain. The protocol has worked wonders for countless people so hopefully it treats you well :)
 
Voltagee said:
Wishing you the best of luck man. I have TERRIBLE gyno from puberty then through irresponsibility when younger and it has ruined my life for real. Can't afford surgery and on week 4 of the protocol and no results here, so I for sure feel your pain. The protocol has worked wonders for countless people so hopefully it treats you well :)
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Damn man hopefully it kicks in next month or so for you!!! I hope it works for me too haha. But you all are right, mind is turned off and as soon as extra funds come avail I'll post up! 👍🏼👍🏼
 
muskate said:
Turn your brain off. Trust on all of this. Just run the protocol exactly as laid out. It has helped hundreds of people in your exact situation.

Keep us updated on your progress!
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As weird and bad as it sounds, but thats the whole point. Just do the protocol as stated. No deviations.
 
Got my rats nolva right now, going to start that for a few months alone as I've read a few topics on that, going to see if that's enough to taper off of and may add aromasin if recommended!!

Any input is appreciated on that!!
 
cb123 said:
Got my rats nolva right now, going to start that for a few months alone as I've read a few topics on that, going to see if that's enough to taper off of and may add aromasin if recommended!!

Any input is appreciated on that!!
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nolva works on some guys for gyno, but it isn't going to be as strong as an AI and letro, and especially running it solo.
 
cb123 said:
Got my rats nolva right now, going to start that for a few months alone as I've read a few topics on that, going to see if that's enough to taper off of and may add aromasin if recommended!!

Any input is appreciated on that!!
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Nolvadex alone is most likely not going to be strong enough to remove pre-existing gyno. You are most likely going to need letro.

The best thing you can do to remove gyno without surgery is to run the anti gyno protocol 3.0 - https://www.evolutionary.org/anti-gynecomastia-cure-version-3

It's going to be a bit more expensive then just nolvadex but it's going to be by far your best option for removing the gyno without surgery.
 
Is that your personal opinion or is there any evidence backing? Just wondering because you guys seem pretty confident on that. Though I can find more positive outcomes with nolva online than reversal protocol, hence my hesitation. Not worried about wasting time on nolva and possible aromasin only if it's 200 vs. 1000 .

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And it would be nolva for 3 mos. if I did, so not sure if a few weeks or a month is what some may expect changes but everyone is different, no ?
 
cb123 said:
Is that your personal opinion or is there any evidence backing? Just wondering because you guys seem pretty confident on that. Though I can find more positive outcomes with nolva online than reversal protocol, hence my hesitation. Not worried about wasting time on nolva and possible aromasin only if it's 200 vs. 1000 .

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And it would be nolva for 3 mos. if I did, so not sure if a few weeks or a month is what some may expect changes but everyone is different, no ?
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brother if you dont believe us...you're welcome to hit up what you feel is right...let us know when it doesnt work and you come back and run what we suggested brother....we been here 7 years helping evo family brothers....we got a ton of experience...
 
cb123 said:
Got my rats nolva right now, going to start that for a few months alone as I've read a few topics on that, going to see if that's enough to taper off of and may add aromasin if recommended!!

Any input is appreciated on that!!
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Running nolva for so long will kill off your libido pretty bad
 
If it's ran for 2 months ?

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Thinking 40 mg/day first week and 20mg/day til it's gone. Not sure of taper
 
The protocol is based on running nolva as well for about as long .. This is where shit gets confusing to me
 
cb123 said:
The protocol is based on running nolva as well for about as long .. This is where shit gets confusing to me
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you are reading very outdated info my friend. nolvadex is a SERM, not even an AI. SERM's work by blocking estrogen to the pituitary glands, a suicide AI like aromasin actually blocks aromatization from the start and prevents any rebound from occuring

using just nolva for gyno is better than nothing, but it isn't even close to the best way to kill gyno
 
will give protocol a shot if this method doesn't work well for me, just can't spend that much on the protocol at the moment but the fucking tits are driving me nuts
 
cb123 said:
If it's ran for 2 months ?

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Thinking 40 mg/day first week and 20mg/day til it's gone. Not sure of taper
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Well I see that you will do things your way anyways..

People here are telling you what to do, even day to day basis with dosages. Yet you still want to use your method. So why bothering to ask then?
 
Because I get a "don't just use that" comment until I decide to run something then it changes to "not bad, but won't be as effective "


And again if this doesn't resolve then I'm going protocol 👍🏼
 
Sometimes you just have to try things yourself and see how you respond. Likely nolva alone will not be enough but you never know. It might work depending on the severity of the gyno. Let us know how it goes.
 
Lumps have reduced in size and sensitivity. Nips are still puffy but it's not as bad as it was. Only a week in, going to 20mg daily dose starting tomorrow. But So far so good, but if it doesn't get me where I want to be, 2 mo off after this trial I'm thinking of going original protocol.

I appreciate everyone's input and concern! Will keep you all posted.
 
No major noticeable change other then sensitivity goin down, currently at 20mg ED end of 2nd week , no sides maybe soreness but also could be from work. Had to see for myself since there are mixed reviews . Going to use for the next month and 20mg ED, and then taper to 10mg daily for 2 weeks, and was thinking about jumping on the v3 protocol
 
Approaching end of wk. 3 with little to no change in appearance ; lot less sensitive to the touch but hoping a turnaround of some sort soon

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No real signs of sides either. Should I bump to 40mg ED ?

I know I may be goi g another route other than protocol atm but input is appreciated regardless !
 
cb123 said:
Approaching end of wk. 3 with little to no change in appearance ; lot less sensitive to the touch but hoping a turnaround of some sort soon

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No real signs of sides either. Should I bump to 40mg ED ?

I know I may be goi g another route other than protocol atm but input is appreciated regardless !
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Dont overthink things brother. Run the V3 protocol exactly as laid out in the article. First you will loose the sensitivity in your nipples and then you will notice the gyno starting to go away. It all happens step by step.

Just turn your brain off and follow the protocol exactly as laid out. Don't over think anything.
 
Ok , on it . Found a site.

But I'm feeling this is a slow process as all have said. So will go thru another month or so. But my lab rats state no real side effects of lethargy, weakness, etc. not sure if product is underdosed or what

Thx for the replys !!
 
Any thing I can do to mask the flavor of the nolva? The smell of it alone at this point makes my stomach turn
 
Don't worry about side effects. I don't get any on that low of a dose of nolva. I don't even get sides on 40mg. You would have to get blood work to see.

The only thing you can do is chase the product with something strong like coffee. You wont even taste it then.
 
Ok thanks. That's what I've been suggesting as well, will do that coffee shot trixk now. Should the product remain under the tongue as a tincture or ingest directly? Jw

Also can't seem to locate the site for labs, any input on that is appreciated as well all

Thanks guys
 
cb123 said:
Ok thanks. That's what I've been suggesting as well, will do that coffee shot trixk now. Should the product remain under the tongue as a tincture or ingest directly? Jw

Also can't seem to locate the site for labs, any input on that is appreciated as well all

Thanks guys
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Link for blood work -> https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/source-talk/bloodwork-private-md-5695.html

You do not need to keep the product under your tongue. Squirt the liquid into your mouth, swallow and then chase with water/coffee/juice.
 
cb123 said:
Ok thanks. That's what I've been suggesting as well, will do that coffee shot trixk now. Should the product remain under the tongue as a tincture or ingest directly? Jw

Also can't seem to locate the site for labs, any input on that is appreciated as well all

Thanks guys
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you don't want to hold under your tonuge man.. just swallow
 
Have been doing it right all along just rly strong and tough to swallow some days.

On end of wk 3 20 mg Ed
 
cb123 said:
Approaching end of wk. 3 with little to no change in appearance ; lot less sensitive to the touch but hoping a turnaround of some sort soon

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No real signs of sides either. Should I bump to 40mg ED ?

I know I may be goi g another route other than protocol atm but input is appreciated regardless !
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Just follow the protocol!
 
A little heads up as to what goin on .

~ running Nolva only atm
~ 40mg ED first week of February
~ 20 mg ED since

Will continue to use for another month or so at 20mg ED, including taper time

No noticeable difference in size, maybe a little smaller for lumps, puffiness behind nips is still there, will go v3 protocol in May/June if nothing works out w this one
 
cb123 said:
A little heads up as to what goin on .

~ running Nolva only atm
~ 40mg ED first week of February
~ 20 mg ED since

Will continue to use for another month or so at 20mg ED, including taper time

No noticeable difference in size, maybe a little smaller for lumps, puffiness behind nips is still there, will go v3 protocol in May/June if nothing works out w this one
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brother keep the updates going...
 
Approaching end of month 1 nolva only. Started at 40mg ED for a week, then dropped to 20mg ED.

Contemplating running letro side by side atm. . Any input ?
 
And if I were to add letro was just wondering if I should follow the v.3 protocol at that and bump up the nolva cuz I literally don't have any sides, so I'm not sure and if anything lumps went down in size but I still have puffiness and lumps and it's driving me nuts !!! I can't even go a minute w/O thinking about this stuff!!
 
cb123 said:
And if I were to add letro was just wondering if I should follow the v.3 protocol at that and bump up the nolva cuz I literally don't have any sides, so I'm not sure and if anything lumps went down in size but I still have puffiness and lumps and it's driving me nuts !!! I can't even go a minute w/O thinking about this stuff!!
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Follow the V3 protocol exactly as laid out in this article here -> https://www.evolutionary.org/anti-gynecomastia-cure-version-3

Don't over think things. The protocol has helped literally hundreds of people in your exact situation. Run the protocol exactly as laid out in the article from start to finish.
 
Brother I get what you are saying but I'm on page 9 of this thread and by page 6 I'm pretty sure I stated I went my own side route.

Looking to implement v3 protocol ASAP, into what I've been doing.

Cliff notes:
Nolva only for the past month..
First week was 40mg ED..
Then 20mg ED since..

Looking to implement letro alongside nolva, following protocol if recommended since I've been using nolva ONLY on the rats.

Ost and Card along w/ yohim is something I'd like to get but funds are holding me back. Figure some is better than none.

Trying to find out input on that.

Your post is appreciated!
 
I know you went a different course but obviously it isn't working the way you want it to. Time to do a reset and run the anti-gyno protocol exactly how it is laid out. Stop trying to piece things together.
 
I had to find out for myself since I was getting mixed reviews.

It's working for me, just not exactly how I wanted it to.

In 3 days I will hit exactly 1 month nolva only, was thinking on tapering down to 10mg ED for the next week and then taking a month off and jump on v3. Will that give me enough time to start over ?
 
Whats the point of incorporating a specific protocol if you still going to do it your way?

You have everything given right in front of you. Just take it, do it and you will fix up your problems. You are making everything much more complicated than it is.
 
You're missing my point then ..

I went my way to see if it can work because it worked for others ..

Now I'm going this v3 route to try this method ..

My question is will one month off of nolva will give the body enough time to recooperate before jumping back and into letro, etc ..

Labs the only way to know ? Does it matter ?

If you cant answer that for me and remain on focal points then I would appreciate it if you can find another thread to bump.
 
cb123 said:
You're missing my point then ..

I went my way to see if it can work because it worked for others ..

Now I'm going this v3 route to try this method ..

My question is will one month off of nolva will give the body enough time to recooperate before jumping back and into letro, etc ..

Labs the only way to know ? Does it matter ?

If you cant answer that for me and remain on focal points then I would appreciate it if you can find another thread to bump.
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Nolvadex has a half life of around 7days. It'll take roughly 28 days for the drug to clear out of your system so yes, one month off nolvadex will give your body enough time to recuperate before jumping onto the anti gyno protocol 3.0
 
Approaching end of taper week one , lumps have reduced in size overall prob by like 40%, stil have puffy nips so we'll see what v3 brings. I'd say this nolva only cycle gave me a few positives as well - strength went up, a Lil more vascular .
 
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