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I am currently finishing up the last of my 8 week cycle of sustanon 250and I am wondering what to take after I finish. I have about 50 tablets of clomid but dont know if its the best choice.

So what is the best anti-estrogen to take after taking sustanon 250 to get your testosterone levels back to normal? And will I be able to keep all my gains? Also how many do you recommend taking daily?
 
I am currently finishing up the last of my 8 week cycle of sustanon 250and I am wondering what to take after I finish. I have about 50 tablets of clomid but dont know if its the best choice.

So what is the best anti-estrogen to take after taking sustanon 250 to get your testosterone levels back to normal? And will I be able to keep all my gains? Also how many do you recommend taking daily?

no you're going to lose your gains for the most part unless you stay on with something sarms, hgh etc. i would get some nolva to add to your pct and you should recover pretty quick from that
 
no you're going to lose your gains for the most part unless you stay on with something sarms, hgh etc. i would get some nolva to add to your pct and you should recover pretty quick from that

Complete and utter bollocks and the kind of stupid thinking that ends up in TRT for LIFE.
 
Complete and utter bollocks and the kind of stupid thinking that ends up in TRT for LIFE.

LMAO!!! bro are you serious!? First off bullocks boy you sound like you're from london. Secondly you clearly don't have knowledge on the subject. You're saying he will keep all gains for life? he will never ever lose anything? get out of here with that nonsense. You're going to lead him to trt by giving him false hope. I'm living proof that you're full of shit along with hundreds of thousands like me. so OP this guy is dumb as rocks don't listen to him. If you want real knowledge from the people that have lived it and experienced it listen to them. those guys are clear as day on here and the ones that read google and post shit on here are like this guy.

I'll break this down for you. Depending on your cycle history that i'd assume is young and short if you never went on again, or used something to bridge in between cycles you will lose anything the steroids helped you build beyond your naturals body limits. Some steroids help you keep gains more than others due to their wetness of the drug. To keep your gains you need to return your body to its natural state to give it the best fighting chance as fast as possible. THIS IS WHY YOU NEVER SKIMP ON PCT ON ANY CYCLE. Anyone that tells you different is a moron.

To sum up what i said this is likely your scenario probably ran a small cycle (500mg or less maybe even 250)and you're new to roids, if you come off and do a shitty or no pct you'll risk getting hypogonadism and risk your sex game and drive. Now you want to follow the basic PCT protocol for this to prevent any adverse reactions. Depending on your cycle you'll start to lose gains during this period as your testosterone levels decline. The higher the dose of T the greater the effect here. If you ran something like 350 mg you're not going to notice it as fast or as much. The plain and simple truth is you will lose the gains that your body cant naturally keep. Anyone that tells you different is completely full of shit and you should never listen to them again. There are things you can do to prevent or slow this down like sarms or hgh to bridge in between cycles. It's your choice. Do your research ask people that actually know what theyre talking about (NOT MOBSTER) At the end of the day you make these decisions.

It's hard to say exactly what you'll lose based off of not knowing what you gained based off of 8 weeks of 250. Just expect to lose some. I agree with CCBRAM you need to run that 12 weeks at a minimum of 350mg otherwise you're really just wasting your time

One last thing about mobster, you're an ignorant pos making that comment. Please show me your facts, let me seem some case studies on how SARMS or HGH has led to TRT... the stupidity out of your mouth that you claim to be knowledgeable advice is moronic. no wonder you were a "former supplement company owner" . also nobody gives af about grip LMAO
 
Complete disaster...…

-you need to have everything sorted out before starting a cycle...including PCT
-Sust is treated like a long ester so 8 weeks is pretty short
-250mg per week pretty low, just over a typical TRT dose
-clomid only for PCT is not even close to good enough
-you don't use an AI to recover, an AI is to control estrogen on cycle

On a normal cycle you can keep a good chunk of gains if you do it right. In this case I doubt you will keep anything.
 
8 weeks is too short of a period of time for sust to start with... next issue is that you should NEVER start a cycle without KNOWING EXACTLY what you are doing and HAVING everything you need... pct is literally the most important part of any cycle and not only do you not have the products for it but have no idea how to actually run it.. this is really irresponsible use bro and exactly why steroids get a bad name...
 
Oh man. I can't tell how much it hurts my eyes when I see poorly planned cycles like this.
First of all 8 weeks of sust is pretty much a waste and running cycles without getting everything you need beforehand is never a good idea.

Aromatase inhibitor is not gonna bring your test levels back to normal. What you need to right now is to fix that sloppy PCT of yours and it all starts from here: https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/perfect-pct-simplified!-49252.html
 
Asking about a PCT right before your too short of a cycle is about to end???? This reeks of disaster. But you’ll need a full pct. and good luck finding that before crashing off of that sustanon.

I’d STAY on sustanon tbh. While u desperately try to find all PCT items that are legit. U need to start shopping man. No lie.
 
LMAO!!! bro are you serious!? First off bullocks boy you sound like you're from london. Secondly you clearly don't have knowledge on the subject. You're saying he will keep all gains for life? he will never ever lose anything? get out of here with that nonsense. You're going to lead him to trt by giving him false hope. I'm living proof that you're full of shit along with hundreds of thousands like me. so OP this guy is dumb as rocks don't listen to him. If you want real knowledge from the people that have lived it and experienced it listen to them. those guys are clear as day on here and the ones that read google and post shit on here are like this guy.

I'll break this down for you. Depending on your cycle history that i'd assume is young and short if you never went on again, or used something to bridge in between cycles you will lose anything the steroids helped you build beyond your naturals body limits. Some steroids help you keep gains more than others due to their wetness of the drug. To keep your gains you need to return your body to its natural state to give it the best fighting chance as fast as possible. THIS IS WHY YOU NEVER SKIMP ON PCT ON ANY CYCLE. Anyone that tells you different is a moron.

To sum up what i said this is likely your scenario probably ran a small cycle (500mg or less maybe even 250)and you're new to roids, if you come off and do a shitty or no pct you'll risk getting hypogonadism and risk your sex game and drive. Now you want to follow the basic PCT protocol for this to prevent any adverse reactions. Depending on your cycle you'll start to lose gains during this period as your testosterone levels decline. The higher the dose of T the greater the effect here. If you ran something like 350 mg you're not going to notice it as fast or as much. The plain and simple truth is you will lose the gains that your body cant naturally keep. Anyone that tells you different is completely full of shit and you should never listen to them again. There are things you can do to prevent or slow this down like sarms or hgh to bridge in between cycles. It's your choice. Do your research ask people that actually know what theyre talking about (NOT MOBSTER) At the end of the day you make these decisions.

It's hard to say exactly what you'll lose based off of not knowing what you gained based off of 8 weeks of 250. Just expect to lose some. I agree with CCBRAM you need to run that 12 weeks at a minimum of 350mg otherwise you're really just wasting your time

One last thing about mobster, you're an ignorant pos making that comment. Please show me your facts, let me seem some case studies on how SARMS or HGH has led to TRT... the stupidity out of your mouth that you claim to be knowledgeable advice is moronic. no wonder you were a "former supplement company owner" . also nobody gives af about grip LMAO

All those words and an insult thrown in too. Nice.

Now you've emphasized PCT, sarms and HGH in this long post - cool. But I QUOTED the part I thought was complete and utter bollocks. Here's that bit again with the rest of the sentance: no you're going to lose your gains for the most part unless you stay on with something sarms, hgh etc.

So he does a cycle (maybe not the one he started buy suggesting with advice to tweak it). Maybe he does 'wet' or 'dry' steroids. You mention how he seems young and then address the amounts he might be taking.

If he's young (hopefully 25+) and doesn't use a lot of juice how does he 'lose all his gains for the most part'? I said it was bollocks cos if it's not then how do any of use keep our gains? More so without going over a gram? Even more so when we it's pretty much a given that the early cycles are the ones we make the most gains on?

Your questions:
1) You're saying he will keep all gains for life? If, for example, he gained a very modest 5lbs on this cycle never took gear again but trained and ate well - then yes. I'll allow for natural lose when he gets proper old but otherwise... yes.
2) He will never ever lose anything? Of course not. But that's not what you said. It might not be what you MEANT. You said (you'll have to forgive me for quoting it again) 'lose his gains for the most part'. Most part. As in the majority.

Your much longer post changes that. But it was posted after.

We completely agree on PCT's. All you gotta do is a little search to see how often I mention it. But I disagree that it's a necessity to use SARMS or HGH to keep gains.
 
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Anyone ever use Test Cyp with Mygliol 840 as a carrier? Just received 2 vials from a UGL and the shit looks like water. Any advice on this? Also, I started Tbol with them and after 2 days at 50mg, I'm having nothing but chest pains
 
Anyone ever use Test Cyp with Mygliol 840 as a carrier? Just received 2 vials from a UGL and the shit looks like water. Any advice on this? Also, I started Tbol with them and after 2 days at 50mg, I'm having nothing but chest pains

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Anyone ever use Test Cyp with Mygliol 840 as a carrier? Just received 2 vials from a UGL and the shit looks like water. Any advice on this? Also, I started Tbol with them and after 2 days at 50mg, I'm having nothing but chest pains
This really should have been a new thread instead of posting in this one
 
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