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no need to worry about this whatsoever... its nothing you want to fuck around with bro
No that is not how it works at all
yes in laymans terms that is correct, it will help shuttle nutrition into the muscles. that is why you see those 300 pound beasts in bodybuilding.
but you realize when you eat a meal your insulin rises already right? so if you want to increase insulin you simply eat more food and more often. in the end that is not healthy and you will just gain globs of fat. not exactly what you want
when you have tremendous genetics and are also on tons of drugs, stims, and fat burners and HGH, you can manage to benefit from insulin at those high levels. but for a normal joe? you should absolutely not touch insulin. with our american diets your insulin is ALREADY HIGH. if anything you should be eating less food, less often and be reducing insulin!
but you realize when you eat a meal your insulin rises already right? so if you want to increase insulin you simply eat more food and more often. in the end that is not healthy and you will just gain globs of fat. not exactly what you want
when you have tremendous genetics and are also on tons of drugs, stims, and fat burners and HGH, you can manage to benefit from insulin at those high levels. but for a normal joe? you should absolutely not touch insulin. with our american diets your insulin is ALREADY HIGH. if anything you should be eating less food, less often and be reducing insulin!
Yeah really insulin is not needed.
Why did most people not want to answer him and just give this speech as to why he shouldn't do it ? I didn't read anywhere in his post where he said he was going to do it
In short insulin directly stimulates the cellular pathway in the muscle that regulates muscle growth.
It also increases blood flow to the muscle. So more nutrients, hormones and the like can get into the muscle which can stimulate muscle protein synthesis.
Very anabolic/anti catabolic hormone. You can do hours of reading on it
In short insulin directly stimulates the cellular pathway in the muscle that regulates muscle growth.
It also increases blood flow to the muscle. So more nutrients, hormones and the like can get into the muscle which can stimulate muscle protein synthesis.
Very anabolic/anti catabolic hormone. You can do hours of reading on it
El chewy choke
New member
Nobody should be using insulin unless you are a type 1 diabetic. And even in that case u only use it when needed only and not because you want to eat chocolate cake.
Even type 2 diabetics should not use it. Yes I said that right. How ironic doctors treat them with something that got them into the mess in the first place. And if u don’t understand what I mean then you are the one who should be reading up on it. Insulin does not cure type 2 diabetics, it is a treatment only.
I will discuss insulin all day and night with anyone and answer any questions but to think that it is something you should put into ur body when most people already have super high levels is buffoonery. And no taking insulin won’t grow you more muscle. If that was true diabetics who take it after every meal would be ripped.
We just had a guy log his insulin run and I told him all this shit over and over but he didn’t listen. Of course he quit the log once he realized ole Steve was right once again. Want to get fat and increase health problems? Then by all means take insulin.
if you think I don't know what i am talking about and insulin is great. then by all means go and take it, have at it. you can walk into walmart and grab a vial and go for it..
Even type 2 diabetics should not use it. Yes I said that right. How ironic doctors treat them with something that got them into the mess in the first place. And if u don’t understand what I mean then you are the one who should be reading up on it. Insulin does not cure type 2 diabetics, it is a treatment only.
I will discuss insulin all day and night with anyone and answer any questions but to think that it is something you should put into ur body when most people already have super high levels is buffoonery. And no taking insulin won’t grow you more muscle. If that was true diabetics who take it after every meal would be ripped.
We just had a guy log his insulin run and I told him all this shit over and over but he didn’t listen. Of course he quit the log once he realized ole Steve was right once again. Want to get fat and increase health problems? Then by all means take insulin.
if you think I don't know what i am talking about and insulin is great. then by all means go and take it, have at it. you can walk into walmart and grab a vial and go for it..
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not even that man.
what you use in that situation are steroids, sarms and other PED's, that is why we use them right there. to break through plateau's!
your body produces plenty of insulin already, again unless you are a diabetic, and adding more to what you already produce is counter productive in 99% of situations.
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skilledtrooper
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yeah i actually agree with the mods who posted about the insulin, take their advice!
scorchedheat
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There's a lot of articles on this topic. Good luck!
Nismo99
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First I want to say I don't use or recommend using insulin. But when people talk about, I still see all kinds of misinformation about it. The argument that your body already produces it so why you need more is not the right argument. The idea of using insulin is to take the load of your pancreas so that so that you don't burn out your natural insulin production. We need to think things through all the way to the end to really understand all the tangents here.
In a very simple example...if you eat a lot of carbs, your blood sugar rise and then you body starts producing insulin. Instead, if one were to introduce some exogenous insulin, then the body wouldn't need to produce much of it's own. This gives your pancreas a much needed break from constantly being overworked.
Again, I am just stating some facts. I do not use or recommend using insulin.
In a very simple example...if you eat a lot of carbs, your blood sugar rise and then you body starts producing insulin. Instead, if one were to introduce some exogenous insulin, then the body wouldn't need to produce much of it's own. This gives your pancreas a much needed break from constantly being overworked.
Again, I am just stating some facts. I do not use or recommend using insulin.
or you can simply eat correctly and not have to worry about that in the first place. if you find yourself eating every 2 hours and 12 hours of the day then of course you are going to put a load on your pancreas. also not just meal frequency but also foods too. healthy carbs are not necessarily the enemy. refined sugars and processed foods like bread, cereal, etc. will work your pancreas to death.
100 years ago type 2 diabetes was extremely rare. only the wealthy would have it. today? 1 out of every 4 americans and chinese have it. why? cause we can eat what we want, when we want to. in China they have a very large and vibrant middle class and American companies have gone there to market their foods and sodas, taking their diseases with them. we choose lazy options like things out of boxes, fast food and processed foods instead of natural whole food choices. also if you look up your ancestors and see those old family pictures nobody is obese. now? every person has a gut.
but back to the original point. injecting more insulin in your body will not prevent type 2 diabetes. in fact using insulin for those with type 2 diabetes is a scam. why? because you get on that you are on for life. it isn't curing you, it is covering up the existing issue. no different than someone with low test just hopping on TRT for life instead of fixing why they have low test. you can actually cure type 2 diabetes by making diet changes and fasting properly. I know because I am living evidence of that.
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Tough Board. ^^^ This. I agree with the posts that recommend against it, but nothing wrong with learning.
I'm a type 2 diabetic for 5 years now. Currently using Lantus (long acting, scheduled) and, Humalog (short acting, sliding scale 3 times daily) for past 2 years.
It can be very dangerous if you don't do your homework. The danger comes from what we refer to as "dropping." That's when the insulin is still active in your system and your blood sugar "drops." And when it starts, it drops fast. To dangerous (below 80) it can drop to 20 in minutes. Anything lower and you don't get some sort of sugar (juice, peanut butter, crackers) you will have a rough time and 911 should be called.
A good rule of thumb is to have 100 carb per IU of slin. On a bulker, with a solid diet, which you should be on anyway, dropping shouldn't be a concern, but still need to check blood /sugar levels regardless.
It's an excellent drug/supplement that does work.
Mostly reserved for older, experienced lifters who have ran every AAS known to man, like myself.
Make sure you do your homework and if I can help anymore just let me know.
Lift hard.
Nismo99
Active member
Steve you are right. The parabolic increase in Type 2 diabetes is a result of people eating the garbage foods and beverage that the big commericial food manufacturers market to us. It's just like the marketing of cigarettes and the increase in lung cancers that resulted.
When I watch old films and documentaries from the 30's and 40's....I see very few people that look overweight. Today when I look around this country, it's seriously over 50% of the population that is obese. This is a result of eating habits and the big food companies pushing this on the uninformed public.
I don't believe, however, that's the frequent eating that is causing this rise in diabetes. I think it's simply that people are eating way too much in total. The average American doesn't eat every 2-3 hours. They eat three MASSIVE meals each day (highly processed foods) along with a bunch of sugary drinks and alcohol and this is what is causing the obesity and Type 2 diabetic problem.
When I watch old films and documentaries from the 30's and 40's....I see very few people that look overweight. Today when I look around this country, it's seriously over 50% of the population that is obese. This is a result of eating habits and the big food companies pushing this on the uninformed public.
I don't believe, however, that's the frequent eating that is causing this rise in diabetes. I think it's simply that people are eating way too much in total. The average American doesn't eat every 2-3 hours. They eat three MASSIVE meals each day (highly processed foods) along with a bunch of sugary drinks and alcohol and this is what is causing the obesity and Type 2 diabetic problem.
^^^ the marketing by breakfast companies who have convinced people that breakfast is the most important meal of the day is a huge culprit. when you wake up and throw food at your body and spike your insulin levels that is a major issue. plus breakfast foods like pasteurized low fat yogurt (guess what they replace the fat with, yup sugar), processed meats like sausage, bacon, and hash browns, eggs drenched in unhealthy hydrogenated oils, refined flour pancakes drenched in fake syrup, etc. heck just look at the menu at denny's or IHOP. this is a big part of the epidemic
i tell people all the time that eating in the morning is a bad idea, you want to keep your insulin levels low and levelled as long as possible.
i highly recommend investing a few bucks in Jason Fung's books, he is a guy I consider one of my mentors in this area. i encourage people to be eating in a 2-8 hour window, with 4-6 hours the most applicable for those of us in fitness.
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type 2 diabetes is reversible. what you are doing now is making you a slave for life. think about what you are doing here. it was insulin that got you into this mess in the first place. so instead of lowering it and training your pancreas to work properly, now you are just throwing insulin at your body and then having to consume unhealthy refined sugars to bounce your blood sugar back up. it is a nonstop roller coaster down a rabbits hole which you will never dig out of.
instead why not reverse your insulin resistance through fasting and diet changes and gradually lower your insulin intake until you don't need it anymore? it can be done and actually is pretty easy to do if you set out to do it.
i tell people all the time that eating in the morning is a bad idea, you want to keep your insulin levels low and levelled as long as possible.
i highly recommend investing a few bucks in Jason Fung's books, he is a guy I consider one of my mentors in this area. i encourage people to be eating in a 2-8 hour window, with 4-6 hours the most applicable for those of us in fitness.
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type 2 diabetes is reversible. what you are doing now is making you a slave for life. think about what you are doing here. it was insulin that got you into this mess in the first place. so instead of lowering it and training your pancreas to work properly, now you are just throwing insulin at your body and then having to consume unhealthy refined sugars to bounce your blood sugar back up. it is a nonstop roller coaster down a rabbits hole which you will never dig out of.
instead why not reverse your insulin resistance through fasting and diet changes and gradually lower your insulin intake until you don't need it anymore? it can be done and actually is pretty easy to do if you set out to do it.
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aimfirst1456
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Really good help, I appreciate that man
