Lgd + MK 677

[fidel]

Over a week into my first SARMs cycle (irc.bio). Doing lgd (5 now then upto 10mg)+ mk 677 (12.5 now then up to 25mg) for 8-12 weeks. Was thinking of arimastane (in cycle) for water sides (on mk even half dose the bloat is serious) and any estrogenic sides. I've been told by some this is over-kill or unecessary so holding off for now. Would pct with Nolva 20/20/10/10 and DAA (5-10g). Any thoughts or feedback are appreciated.


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[stevesmi]

i'm confused why you are bloating on either. what you have there are not real product, sounds like you are taking pro hormones

who was your source?

 

[fidel]

i'm confused why you are bloating on either. what you have there are not real product, sounds like you are taking pro hormones

who was your source?

IRC.BIO for both. Isn't the water weight related to mk?

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[muskate]

SARMS do not aromatize into estrogen so an AI like arimastane is not needed...that's assuming you have legitimate SARMS.

There should only be very minimal bloating from SARMS since SARMS do not effect estrogen or prolactin levels.

It sounds to me like you aren't actually running SARMS but are actually running a pro-hormone? Where did you get the SARMS from?

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IRC.BIO for both. Isn't the water weight related to mk?

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Water retention from nutrobal (mk-677) should be very minimal. Maybe 3-4 pounds tops.

Even then...if the water retention you are experiencing is from the nutrobal, an AI will do nothing to remove it. An AI lowers estrogen levels but nutrobal is an HGH analogue. It does not effect estrogen levels in any way

 

[bam_dice]

They know there stuff if you need help. With anything these are your guys.


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[Mobster]

I dislike two parts of this:
1) Holding of on using an AI (more so on roids) until there's a problem
2) Don't start a cycle until you have everything you need.

 

[fidel]

I dislike two parts of this:
1) Holding of on using an AI (more so on roids) until there's a problem
2) Don't start a cycle until you have everything you need.

I had everything for PCT before I even got the SARMs lol. Arimastane was a late purchase because I read about it here and there. Good to know I don't need the AI in cycle then.

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[fidel]

SARMS do not aromatize into estrogen so an AI like arimastane is not needed...that's assuming you have legitimate SARMS.

There should only be very minimal bloating from SARMS since SARMS do not effect estrogen or prolactin levels.

It sounds to me like you aren't actually running SARMS but are actually running a pro-hormone? Where did you get the SARMS from?

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Water retention from nutrobal (mk-677) should be very minimal. Maybe 3-4 pounds tops.

Even then...if the water retention you are experiencing is from the nutrobal, an AI will do nothing to remove it. An AI lowers estrogen levels but nutrobal is an HGH analogue. It does not effect estrogen levels in any way

Ok thanks, I think I'm just noticing it more because I wear tight fitting dress pants for work. Last weekend (day 3 of cycle) we went out for PHO and next day I felt like a balloon. What do you think about the PCT i'm running after? Nolva. 20/20/10/10 and DAA (going to order Hcgenerate ES also) ? Is this fine if I go for the full 12 weeks?

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[RoySimpson]

I would recommend Hcgenerate ES I am currently using it after a SARM cycle. Its weird that you are getting bloat for SARMS I have never experienced anything like that before. Make sure your product is legit because as you may have read pro hormones are what scammers are using to sell "SARMS" be very careful with what you put in your body!

 

[fidel]

I would recommend Hcgenerate ES I am currently using it after a SARM cycle. Its weird that you are getting bloat for SARMS I have never experienced anything like that before. Make sure your product is legit because as you may have read pro hormones are what scammers are using to sell "SARMS" be very careful with what you put in your body!

The bloat is from the mk not the lgd. Yes I heard all about the fakes on the market. I researched sources before ordering. Irc.bio has nothing but good reviews plus their customer service was great, when dealing with a delayed shipment over Christmas. Will be avoiding this for next purchase by going with a CAN domestic distributor (Neobolics).

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[fidel]

I would recommend Hcgenerate ES I am currently using it after a SARM cycle. Its weird that you are getting bloat for SARMS I have never experienced anything like that before. Make sure your product is legit because as you may have read pro hormones are what scammers are using to sell "SARMS" be very careful with what you put in your body!

Forgot to ask, do you only use Hcgenerate for your pct?

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[bam_dice]

You can use both es and the original. I took the original works just as well as the new one. Just more added ingredients.


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[Masonic Bodybuilder]

The bloat is not estrogen related if you have legit products so don't bother running arimistane. Just run your cycle and use HCGenerate ES as your PCT. No need for nolva or any SERM when you are only running LGD that effects natural test anyways. SERMs would be overkill and likely cause negative side effects.

 

[fidel]

The bloat is not estrogen related if you have legit products so don't bother running arimistane. Just run your cycle and use HCGenerate ES as your PCT. No need for nolva or any SERM when you are only running LGD that effects natural test anyways. SERMs would be overkill and likely cause negative side effects.

Ok thanks good to know. So SERM would only really be necessary if im using more than one compound right? Say rad + lgd+ yk11 or S23 ?

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[Masonic Bodybuilder]

Ok thanks good to know. So SERM would only really be necessary if im using more than one compound right? Say rad + lgd+ yk11 or S23 ?

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Correct. If you ran a really suppressive SARMs cycle I would still use HCGenerate ES but maybe add in clomid at 25mg per day for 4 weeks.

 

[bam_dice]

They probably add GHRP-2 and GHRP-6. You wouldn’t get water bloated. Talked to a guy today he got it test found it in his mk677.


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[fidel]

They probably add GHRP-2 and GHRP-6. You wouldn’t get water bloated. Talked to a guy today he got it test found it in his mk677.


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Isn't it pretty standard to get a bit of water weight from mk though? In any case it's pretty subsided for me now. I'm almost at the 1 month mark

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[bam_dice]

Should be little bloated. Try different source whatever works for you.


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[fidel]

Should be little bloated. Try different source whatever works for you.


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I've got Neobolics now. Almost done with the IRC.bio stuff

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