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liver damage?

If you're running oral steroids correctly, n2guard will protect you. If you're abusing them, nothing can help you
 
n2guard is all you need... you don't want to overdo it with liver protection either... that can be detrimental as well... n2guard has COMPLETE protection...
Thanks bro. I was planning 60mgs a day for 5 weeks. How many bottles of n2guard am I gonna need........ P.S I can only get 20mg pills of winny so I decided to run 60mgs vs 40mgs a day..... Is this wise?
 
Thanks bro. I was planning 60mgs a day for 5 weeks. How many bottles of n2guard am I gonna need........ P.S I can only get 20mg pills of winny so I decided to run 60mgs vs 40mgs a day..... Is this wise?

I run liver protection my whole cycle not just while using orals...I like to be safe. Each bottle of n2guard is a 30 day supply.


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What is the difference between narcotics, and oral steroids. As far as liver damage is concerned? No bro science. I need facts on this one.
 
Thanks bro. I was planning 60mgs a day for 5 weeks. How many bottles of n2guard am I gonna need........ P.S I can only get 20mg pills of winny so I decided to run 60mgs vs 40mgs a day..... Is this wise?

one bottle of n2guard will last you 30 days... winstrol is very toxic so just watch it... you should be fine at 60 mg but if you notice a lot of lethargy that means your liver does not like it... make sure your running hcgenerate and n2guard with it... we all respond differently and the quality will also determine that but your covered with these two...
 
Milk thistle is essential. But it's also in N2Guard, with a lot other good components.
Another good components are selenium, zinc, artichokes and sesam extract.
 
Just out of curiosity what would symptoms of liver damage be? Like is there symptoms to look for while running an oral ?
 
Just out of curiosity what would symptoms of liver damage be? Like is there symptoms to look for while running an oral ?
A guy in our gym took some D-Bol. One day, he walked in the room with yellowish skin. That was freakingly to see. He went to the hospital, after some gym-buddys told him, to go there.
Another symptom would be a yellowish eyes (the part, which is normally white). But if your skin and eyes are yellow, that means, that the liver is really damaged. Furthermore tiredness is also a sign of potential liver damage.
 
Yellow eyes and yellow skin means your pretty far gone, I would imagine... I wish there was a way of knowing sooner?
 
Yellow eyes and yellow skin means your pretty far gone, I would imagine... I wish there was a way of knowing sooner?
Of course it is. Here is a good list with the main signs of a damaged liver:
www [dot] mayoclinic [dot] org/diseases-conditions/liver-disease/basics/symptoms/con-20025300
 
Just out of curiosity what would symptoms of liver damage be? Like is there symptoms to look for while running an oral ?

Well liver "damage" vs "inflamed/fatty" are two different beasts. Signs of liver damage/chronic issues are juandice (yellowing of skin), constantly sick, malnutrition and muscle wasting...basically moderate to end stage cirrhosis of the liver.
Now liver inflammation/a fatty liver is what can happen with an Acute situation...fever, pain in abdominal area around the liver (liver is swollen and pushing on other organs), some juandice and lethargy. A blood panel to look at liver enzymes would tell you if your liver is inflamed.
My liver enzymes have ran high/on the high end since I was a teenager so it can be relative tot he individual and I know my hereditary b/c my fathers did as well. I've had every hep or liver disease test imaginable b/c the Dr's wanted to R/O any liver issues. Having said that I tried an oral PH once and never again will I touch anything that has to make it's first pass through the liver to metabolize. I took N2guard plus other liver protection and my enzymes soared through the roof.
The beauty of the liver, unlike the lungs and other organs is it will heal itself IF....BIG IF....u rest it and treat it with clean living.
 
and don't drink alcohol .. if you are incapable of staying away from booze then don't touch steroids to begin with

This X10000000!!!
Also OTC anti-inflammatory drugs can also jack up your liver enzymes on cycle. So I've been sticking with TB-500 peptide shots...shits like gold to me these days. 4 months ago I couldn't do a push-up due to shoulder and elbow injuries. Now I'm back to DB pressing 110's for reps and over head pressing.
 
Well liver "damage" vs "inflamed/fatty" are two different beasts. Signs of liver damage/chronic issues are juandice (yellowing of skin), constantly sick, malnutrition and muscle wasting...basically moderate to end stage cirrhosis of the liver.
Now liver inflammation/a fatty liver is what can happen with an Acute situation...fever, pain in abdominal area around the liver (liver is swollen and pushing on other organs), some juandice and lethargy. A blood panel to look at liver enzymes would tell you if your liver is inflamed.
My liver enzymes have ran high/on the high end since I was a teenager so it can be relative tot he individual and I know my hereditary b/c my fathers did as well. I've had every hep or liver disease test imaginable b/c the Dr's wanted to R/O any liver issues. Having said that I tried an oral PH once and never again will I touch anything that has to make it's first pass through the liver to metabolize. I took N2guard plus other liver protection and my enzymes soared through the roof.
The beauty of the liver, unlike the lungs and other organs is it will heal itself IF....BIG IF....u rest it and treat it with clean living.
Nice post! Thanks
 
I took N2guard while running test sust, dbol cycle and my liver enzymes were spot on mid way through. Love the stuff can't go wrong.
 
What is the difference between narcotics, and oral steroids. As far as liver damage is concerned? No bro science. I need facts on this one.

I guess no one has a solid answer for this....
 
I guess no one has a solid answer for this....

Not sure but I could try to find some studies for you. No one here probably has any good answers for that without it being bro science so an actual study will be your best bet for finding what you are looking for.


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Not sure but I could try to find some studies for you. No one here probably has any good answers for that without it being bro science so an actual study will be your best bet for finding what you are looking for.


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Thanks brother. I have tried to find something on it but have not had any luck. I have stayed away from orals but it may not be the same thing at all.
 
Thanks brother. I have tried to find something on it but have not had any luck. I have stayed away from orals but it may not be the same thing at all.

Ps. I am not on narcotics now. But I have taken 18,to 20,000 Hydro 10s and percent 10s and yes there may have been some abuse involved.
 
What is the difference between narcotics, and oral steroids. As far as liver damage is concerned? No bro science. I need facts on this one.


I have no facts to present, but it is common sense that everything carries its own level of toxicity in terms of the liver.
 
I have no facts to present, but it is common sense that everything carries its own level of toxicity in terms of the liver.

So you think it is the same type of issues called by both?
 
So you think it is the same type of issues called by both?

In terms of liver damage, I would think so. I know prescription meds, alcohol, and oral AAS all break down the liver the same way. How much it breaks it down depends on what it is, the dose, and the level of toxicity of the substance. This one of the reasons we don't recommend people taking orals while on meds, and we don't recommend drinking while on cycle
 
So the same enzyme levels are increased by narcotics and oral steroids.
 
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