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LOG WORKOUT/Roids

Name zack
age 21
things I plan to take
Anavar 20mg
TRT C 200-300mg

Will start with only anavar first
@HarleyGuy
thanks for starting your log :D @zack7629 please share some pics of you with your face blurred so we can see your base and understand you.
 
Name zack
age 21
things I plan to take
Anavar 20mg
TRT C 200-300mg

Will start with only anavar first
@HarleyGuy
You've come to right place, lots of experienced heads here, like myself
 
Name zack
age 21
things I plan to take
Anavar 20mg
TRT C 200-300mg

Will start with only anavar first
@HarleyGuy
Thanks for starting your log @zack7629. You can use my template as per our DM's but start first with some pics of your base physique like you see others' avatars on here. This will help us know where you're at with your physique to get us started for you. Then you can ask again everything we've discussed in DM's once you've posted all your info as well as diet/training/supplements, etc that you plan to use or you can let us guide you.
 
Name zack
age 21
things I plan to take
Anavar 20mg
TRT C 200-300mg

Will start with only anavar first
@HarleyGuy
Have a look at my new log in my signature down below this. I use a simple copy and paste for my logs except i fill out the update section each day. Feel free to steal the format or parts of it.

If your not tracking macros yet, i recommend MyFitnessPal. The screenshots in my log are from the app. Just make sure to choose cooked entries for meat when logging macros as meat loses around 25% weight from cooking.
 
Far too young and esp so for TRT
That's the thing I've been trying to explain to him in DM's that "TRT" isn't the same as a "cycle". 300 migs is a cycle so he needs to know that isn't "TRT". He's very new and also too young imo but he's wanting to press on regardless.
 
TRT at 21? okay but you will need to be on forever. that is a big commitment. imagine pinning yourself once a week forever from the age of 21. its pretty sucky

unless you have a legit medical reason for doing this, then why not just cycle steroids short 4-6 weeks at a time to conserve your hpta. i mean i wouldn't use steroids till later but that would be smarter
 
TRT at 21? okay but you will need to be on forever. that is a big commitment. imagine pinning yourself once a week forever from the age of 21. its pretty sucky

unless you have a legit medical reason for doing this, then why not just cycle steroids short 4-6 weeks at a time to conserve your hpta. i mean i wouldn't use steroids till later but that would be smarter
Agreed. I should invite you all into our DM's LOL.

@zack7629 how long did you want to run the 300mgs of TestC?
 
Agreed. I should invite you all into our DM's LOL.

@zack7629 how long did you want to run the 300mgs of TestC?
i mean if he is aware he will blowout his hpta and likely never be able to have kids then that is his problem
when he gets 30-35 and is dating and the girls asks him about having kids and he tells her 'i've been on trt for a decade and can't have kids' he will understand why she never texts him back after the date.
 
i mean if he is aware he will blowout his hpta and likely never be able to have kids then that is his problem
when he gets 30-35 and is dating and the girls asks him about having kids and he tells her 'i've been on trt for a decade and can't have kids' he will understand why she never texts him back after the date.
It's like a perma future ghosting protocol from women that one inflicts on themselves LOL :p
 
TRT at 21? okay but you will need to be on forever. that is a big commitment. imagine pinning yourself once a week forever from the age of 21. its pretty sucky

unless you have a legit medical reason for doing this, then why not just cycle steroids short 4-6 weeks at a time to conserve your hpta. i mean i wouldn't use steroids till later but that would be smarter
I wish I did that and I was 40!
 
It's like a perma future ghosting protocol from women that one inflicts on themselves LOL :p
I’ve dated women who already have kids, can’t have more, and are totally turned off by my hormone use. One even, didn’t insist that I stop, but she insisted I would be better off if I stop. Which is just simply not true, it had already been three years and I was 43. I could have stopped. And been absolutely miserable for who knows how long. But this is pretty common.
 
If y'all don't recommend trt, is there anything else? I heard the chance of my not being able to have kids is very low, but I am looking for something to help me gain faster also been looking into reta
 
If y'all don't recommend trt, is there anything else? I heard the chance of my not being able to have kids is very low, but I am looking for something to help me gain faster also been looking into reta
heard from who?

when you use anabolics it shuts down your HPTA kaboom. it fries it especially at your age. even 1 12 week cycle can fry your balls for life
 
i mean if he is aware he will blowout his hpta and likely never be able to have kids then that is his problem
when he gets 30-35 and is dating and the girls asks him about having kids and he tells her 'i've been on trt for a decade and can't have kids' he will understand why she never texts him back after the date.
Fella I know, he was engaged to the sister of a woman I dated. He’s a body builder. He looks fantastic, has won local shows. Been juicing since he was 22. She left him because he failed for a year to impregnate her. I never pressed for details, but I do know she was finding needles and he had been behaving oddly. I knew him to be a really cool dude. She’s hot and mean just like her sister hahaha. It would have been less than eight years that he’d been on at that point. He’s not yet 40
 
Get dialed in on your log, run some reta to cut a bit while dialing in. The brothers here can give better advice with the whole picture to look at. And if you end up still hell bent on running cycles at this age, they can offer safer suggestions that are suitable for you.
 
So what would you recommend I use i want to build lean muscle fast
at your age you need to dial in
1. diet
2. sleep
3. proper training
4. mental strength/well being

i was a high school weight lifting coach /judge so i know exactly how you guys think. i get it, life ends at 25 for you. but the reality is you need to focus on building muscle memory and being consistent right now.

everyone regardless of age wants to 'take' or 'use' something. but the truth is those 4 things above are the real things you need to work on

i can easily sit here and sell you this or that supplement or steroid. that is what you are dealing with everytime you go on social media. everyone is selling something or another to make a buck. so you are swamped with that

down the line once you dial in the fundamentals THEN you can use these PED's to take your shit to the next level and you will benefit greatly.

wait till 25 to use steroids IMO. i waited until i was 28/29 and wish i had waited.
 
Fella I know, he was engaged to the sister of a woman I dated. He’s a body builder. He looks fantastic, has won local shows. Been juicing since he was 22. She left him because he failed for a year to impregnate her. I never pressed for details, but I do know she was finding needles and he had been behaving oddly. I knew him to be a really cool dude. She’s hot and mean just like her sister hahaha. It would have been less than eight years that he’d been on at that point. He’s not yet 40
if i was single and dating women in their mid to late 30's right now and i told them i had no sperm i would not get a return call. that is just how it is. women want options and its a huge turn off. the funny thing i am in my mid 40's and still not even on TRT. so no need for a 21 year old to do it SMH
 
So what would you recommend I use i want to build lean muscle fast
1. A great clean diet high in protein
2. Hard training
3. Good supplementation
4. Proper sleep
5. Then, maybe steroids.

Can we focus this log you've started on #1-#4 before we get you dialed on (and if you need) steroids first.

Also, still waiting on pictures to approve your log.

You should also put all the questions we discuss each day into your log here too.
 
Hey, sorry for not responding for a while. A lot of things came up, but I'm here now, and imma start my logging tomorrow morning i will post picks of progress
Its been a minute eh? Feel free to click my log in my signature below and steal format or ideas. @HarleyGuy log is detailed as hell so lots to steal there but dont feel like it has to be anywhere near that detailed.
 
Hey, sorry for not responding for a while. A lot of things came up, but I'm here now, and imma start my logging tomorrow morning i will post picks of progress
perfect please do :D
 
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