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Hey everyone! Just made an account after finding this forum.
Awesome a place like this exists.

Could not find my answer with the search function, so here is my first thread.

I used to buy raws and brew with C8 MCT oil using only BA, No BB.
This way i would only have to trust 1 source and i avoid seed oils in my diet, so also don't want to inject them.

Now i lost my source and i have been looking all over the internet for some good reviews on a new one.
I have noticed the general consensus here is to not buy raws.
That's a regulatory thing, but for me (NL/EU) raws vs finished product is OK to buy, as long as it is personal use (no large quantities).
But i have also read the raws quality is bad at the moment, but would the finished product also suffer from this?

Anyway i don't mind buying finished products at all, but as there is no label you don't know what's added.
I have looked trough the sources and found that the web shops also don't provide info about oil and solvents.

I want MCT based, and no chemical solvents like EO. Preferable no BB even.
Can someone give me some tips on how i can find what i am looking for.
 
rowi said:
Hey everyone! Just made an account after finding this forum.
Awesome a place like this exists.

Could not find my answer with the search function, so here is my first thread.

I used to buy raws and brew with C8 MCT oil using only BA, No BB.
This way i would only have to trust 1 source and i avoid seed oils in my diet, so also don't want to inject them.

Now i lost my source and i have been looking all over the internet for some good reviews on a new one.
I have noticed the general consensus here is to not buy raws.
That's a regulatory thing, but for me (NL/EU) raws vs finished product is OK to buy, as long as it is personal use (no large quantities).
But i have also read the raws quality is bad at the moment, but would the finished product also suffer from this?

Anyway i don't mind buying finished products at all, but as there is no label you don't know what's added.
I have looked trough the sources and found that the web shops also don't provide info about oil and solvents.

I want MCT based, and no chemical solvents like EO. Preferable no BB even.
Can someone give me some tips on how i can find what i am looking for.
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@rowi welcome to the EVO family :D happy to have you.

Are you on cycle now? whats your situation with training diet sleep? please share more about yourself with us.

The MCT situation, I dont suggest getting no BB gear, might have issues in the long run. But I think most brand dont use MCT because it spoils easy and there are other allergic issues to it. Some do though. Have you checked Euro Pharma or Para Pharma or Beligas?
 
rowi said:
Hey everyone! Just made an account after finding this forum.
Awesome a place like this exists.

Could not find my answer with the search function, so here is my first thread.

I used to buy raws and brew with C8 MCT oil using only BA, No BB.
This way i would only have to trust 1 source and i avoid seed oils in my diet, so also don't want to inject them.

Now i lost my source and i have been looking all over the internet for some good reviews on a new one.
I have noticed the general consensus here is to not buy raws.
That's a regulatory thing, but for me (NL/EU) raws vs finished product is OK to buy, as long as it is personal use (no large quantities).
But i have also read the raws quality is bad at the moment, but would the finished product also suffer from this?

Anyway i don't mind buying finished products at all, but as there is no label you don't know what's added.
I have looked trough the sources and found that the web shops also don't provide info about oil and solvents.

I want MCT based, and no chemical solvents like EO. Preferable no BB even.
Can someone give me some tips on how i can find what i am looking for.
Click to expand...
@rowi i mean you can man. but at the end of the day gear isn't that expensive. why not just buy it and let someone else bother with all that
 
rowi said:
Hey everyone! Just made an account after finding this forum.
Awesome a place like this exists.

Could not find my answer with the search function, so here is my first thread.

I used to buy raws and brew with C8 MCT oil using only BA, No BB.
This way i would only have to trust 1 source and i avoid seed oils in my diet, so also don't want to inject them.

Now i lost my source and i have been looking all over the internet for some good reviews on a new one.
I have noticed the general consensus here is to not buy raws.
That's a regulatory thing, but for me (NL/EU) raws vs finished product is OK to buy, as long as it is personal use (no large quantities).
But i have also read the raws quality is bad at the moment, but would the finished product also suffer from this?

Anyway i don't mind buying finished products at all, but as there is no label you don't know what's added.
I have looked trough the sources and found that the web shops also don't provide info about oil and solvents.

I want MCT based, and no chemical solvents like EO. Preferable no BB even.
Can someone give me some tips on how i can find what i am looking for.
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@rowi bro my son try brewing gear in trailer.
burned place down, cops show up and stole his steroids lol. so gotta be careful it a risk
 
rowi said:
Hey everyone! Just made an account after finding this forum.
Awesome a place like this exists.

Could not find my answer with the search function, so here is my first thread.

I used to buy raws and brew with C8 MCT oil using only BA, No BB.
This way i would only have to trust 1 source and i avoid seed oils in my diet, so also don't want to inject them.

Now i lost my source and i have been looking all over the internet for some good reviews on a new one.
I have noticed the general consensus here is to not buy raws.
That's a regulatory thing, but for me (NL/EU) raws vs finished product is OK to buy, as long as it is personal use (no large quantities).
But i have also read the raws quality is bad at the moment, but would the finished product also suffer from this?

Anyway i don't mind buying finished products at all, but as there is no label you don't know what's added.
I have looked trough the sources and found that the web shops also don't provide info about oil and solvents.

I want MCT based, and no chemical solvents like EO. Preferable no BB even.
Can someone give me some tips on how i can find what i am looking for.
Click to expand...
You can just ask
 
Have you checked Euro Pharma or Para Pharma or Beligas?
Click to expand...

I checked some sources listed here, don't reminder which ones: so will check your list later today.

Are you on cycle now? whats your situation with training diet sleep? please share more about yourself with us.
Click to expand...

Well that's kind of complex. Let me try to give some insight while keeping it compact.
My health isn't very good, i suffer from:
  • Migraines (as much as daily or even multi daily at times)
  • Sleep disorder
  • Depression
  • Anxiety attacks
  • Some genetic polymorphisms like reduced methylation and histamine intolerance
  • Brain fog
  • Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (CFS)
So i am not the average person here.
But why am i here then? Well my life has goon down hill like 5 years ago.
I had health issues before that, but then it got to the point i have to lay in bed most of my time.
Lost my life, my girlfriend and my company etc.
The last years at risk at losing my income and house due to my income insurance not being honest and trying to stop the payments.
So i have an attorney and a most likely a lawsuit i have to start, because they are in the wrong.

So before all this i had done some experimenting with my test levels and i really notice a difference when i have high T vs "normal" T.
I feel a lot better then. also my natural levels fluctuate from normal to above the reference range.
To view this content we will need your consent to set third party cookies.
For more detailed information, see our cookies page.

Then i watched a lot of videos like vigorous steve and some others and they talked about the mental improvements of trt+
So i remembered my blood work from the past and tried raising my T to see what it will do for me.
(the only thing i achieved in the last 5 years is a lot of knowledge gained)

I started with measuring and logging my balls weight and the introducing HCG.
I found around 1200 to be a replacement dose for the "normal" t level i have.
I ended up at 1750 IU weekly with daily dosing and that made me feel better: better mood, less in my head and no downsides.
Also i keep my muscle mass better this way. in the last 5 years i have been at 58KG at my lowest due to no appetite and laying in bed most of the time.
I also helps with the anxiety and gives me more stress tolerance.

So i liked this and wanted to go higher, but HCG is rather expensive and i still had stock for Test E that i bought in the past and only tried for 3 weeks. (didn't have the knowledge i have now)
So i started with the Test and tried to order more, but the source is closed now.

So i plan to be on actual TRT at some point. But here in my country this is not really a thing.
Also my levels are normal at the low point where i feel worse, so i don't have hypogonadism.
So i do this myself and i want to build up to TRT+ (slightly supraphysiological)
Like 250/300 Test or maybe 200T + 100 Primo.
This is mostly based on how i feel.
I will get new migraine medication as well and i hope to get out of this hole I'm in.
i really want to start building my life up again

It is starting to get long anyway, i'm trying to keep it short.
Why i use C8 MCT oil: it is really thin and almost looks like water.
I use it SubQ daily and have absolutely perfect injections: no pip, no lumps nothing. (i test on lean part of my legs)
I had bought Test E from the HCG source i have. this is unique pharma.
That uses BA BB and GSO, then i get pip (burning) and a lump that stays for weeks.
Like i said i don't use BB myself: i just tried to make 200mg/ml without BB and that works great.
It dissolves without heating even and no crashing out, not even when i put it in the fridge.
I have a sensitive body, so the less chemicals the better.
But in this case i might be the GSO and not the BB, i would have to test this.

Another problem i face:
MCT can be C6 to C12. I have never seen C6, so in practice it is C8 to C12.
But C12 isn't the same at all: this has to go trough the liver, while the others can be used directly.
For the others C8 is superior for using SubQ because it is very thin and small molecule size.
The commercial MCT steriods i have seen don't list solvents used or C8 vs C12 or C12. (just "MCT")

last thing:
After dialing the test in i want to try 1 or 2 units of HGH for a while to see if i can increase my healing and get my health back
 
rowi said:
I checked some sources listed here, don't reminder which ones: so will check your list later today.



Well that's kind of complex. Let me try to give some insight while keeping it compact.
My health isn't very good, i suffer from:
  • Migraines (as much as daily or even multi daily at times)
  • Sleep disorder
  • Depression
  • Anxiety attacks
  • Some genetic polymorphisms like reduced methylation and histamine intolerance
  • Brain fog
  • Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (CFS)
So i am not the average person here.
But why am i here then? Well my life has goon down hill like 5 years ago.
I had health issues before that, but then it got to the point i have to lay in bed most of my time.
Lost my life, my girlfriend and my company etc.
The last years at risk at losing my income and house due to my income insurance not being honest and trying to stop the payments.
So i have an attorney and a most likely a lawsuit i have to start, because they are in the wrong.

So before all this i had done some experimenting with my test levels and i really notice a difference when i have high T vs "normal" T.
I feel a lot better then. also my natural levels fluctuate from normal to above the reference range.
To view this content we will need your consent to set third party cookies.
For more detailed information, see our cookies page.

Then i watched a lot of videos like vigorous steve and some others and they talked about the mental improvements of trt+
So i remembered my blood work from the past and tried raising my T to see what it will do for me.
(the only thing i achieved in the last 5 years is a lot of knowledge gained)

I started with measuring and logging my balls weight and the introducing HCG.
I found around 1200 to be a replacement dose for the "normal" t level i have.
I ended up at 1750 IU weekly with daily dosing and that made me feel better: better mood, less in my head and no downsides.
Also i keep my muscle mass better this way. in the last 5 years i have been at 58KG at my lowest due to no appetite and laying in bed most of the time.
I also helps with the anxiety and gives me more stress tolerance.

So i liked this and wanted to go higher, but HCG is rather expensive and i still had stock for Test E that i bought in the past and only tried for 3 weeks. (didn't have the knowledge i have now)
So i started with the Test and tried to order more, but the source is closed now.

So i plan to be on actual TRT at some point. But here in my country this is not really a thing.
Also my levels are normal at the low point where i feel worse, so i don't have hypogonadism.
So i do this myself and i want to build up to TRT+ (slightly supraphysiological)
Like 250/300 Test or maybe 200T + 100 Primo.
This is mostly based on how i feel.
I will get new migraine medication as well and i hope to get out of this hole I'm in.
i really want to start building my life up again

It is starting to get long anyway, i'm trying to keep it short.
Why i use C8 MCT oil: it is really thin and almost looks like water.
I use it SubQ daily and have absolutely perfect injections: no pip, no lumps nothing. (i test on lean part of my legs)
I had bought Test E from the HCG source i have. this is unique pharma.
That uses BA BB and GSO, then i get pip (burning) and a lump that stays for weeks.
Like i said i don't use BB myself: i just tried to make 200mg/ml without BB and that works great.
It dissolves without heating even and no crashing out, not even when i put it in the fridge.
I have a sensitive body, so the less chemicals the better.
But in this case i might be the GSO and not the BB, i would have to test this.

Another problem i face:
MCT can be C6 to C12. I have never seen C6, so in practice it is C8 to C12.
But C12 isn't the same at all: this has to go trough the liver, while the others can be used directly.
For the others C8 is superior for using SubQ because it is very thin and small molecule size.
The commercial MCT steriods i have seen don't list solvents used or C8 vs C12 or C12. (just "MCT")

last thing:
After dialing the test in i want to try 1 or 2 units of HGH for a while to see if i can increase my healing and get my health back
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@rowi bros just going on trt not gonna cure all that lol. i mean let be honest. it gonna cure low T, that is it which could help other things
 
rowi said:
I checked some sources listed here, don't reminder which ones: so will check your list later today.



Well that's kind of complex. Let me try to give some insight while keeping it compact.
My health isn't very good, i suffer from:
  • Migraines (as much as daily or even multi daily at times)
  • Sleep disorder
  • Depression
  • Anxiety attacks
  • Some genetic polymorphisms like reduced methylation and histamine intolerance
  • Brain fog
  • Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (CFS)
So i am not the average person here.
But why am i here then? Well my life has goon down hill like 5 years ago.
I had health issues before that, but then it got to the point i have to lay in bed most of my time.
Lost my life, my girlfriend and my company etc.
The last years at risk at losing my income and house due to my income insurance not being honest and trying to stop the payments.
So i have an attorney and a most likely a lawsuit i have to start, because they are in the wrong.

So before all this i had done some experimenting with my test levels and i really notice a difference when i have high T vs "normal" T.
I feel a lot better then. also my natural levels fluctuate from normal to above the reference range.
To view this content we will need your consent to set third party cookies.
For more detailed information, see our cookies page.

Then i watched a lot of videos like vigorous steve and some others and they talked about the mental improvements of trt+
So i remembered my blood work from the past and tried raising my T to see what it will do for me.
(the only thing i achieved in the last 5 years is a lot of knowledge gained)

I started with measuring and logging my balls weight and the introducing HCG.
I found around 1200 to be a replacement dose for the "normal" t level i have.
I ended up at 1750 IU weekly with daily dosing and that made me feel better: better mood, less in my head and no downsides.
Also i keep my muscle mass better this way. in the last 5 years i have been at 58KG at my lowest due to no appetite and laying in bed most of the time.
I also helps with the anxiety and gives me more stress tolerance.

So i liked this and wanted to go higher, but HCG is rather expensive and i still had stock for Test E that i bought in the past and only tried for 3 weeks. (didn't have the knowledge i have now)
So i started with the Test and tried to order more, but the source is closed now.

So i plan to be on actual TRT at some point. But here in my country this is not really a thing.
Also my levels are normal at the low point where i feel worse, so i don't have hypogonadism.
So i do this myself and i want to build up to TRT+ (slightly supraphysiological)
Like 250/300 Test or maybe 200T + 100 Primo.
This is mostly based on how i feel.
I will get new migraine medication as well and i hope to get out of this hole I'm in.
i really want to start building my life up again

It is starting to get long anyway, i'm trying to keep it short.
Why i use C8 MCT oil: it is really thin and almost looks like water.
I use it SubQ daily and have absolutely perfect injections: no pip, no lumps nothing. (i test on lean part of my legs)
I had bought Test E from the HCG source i have. this is unique pharma.
That uses BA BB and GSO, then i get pip (burning) and a lump that stays for weeks.
Like i said i don't use BB myself: i just tried to make 200mg/ml without BB and that works great.
It dissolves without heating even and no crashing out, not even when i put it in the fridge.
I have a sensitive body, so the less chemicals the better.
But in this case i might be the GSO and not the BB, i would have to test this.

Another problem i face:
MCT can be C6 to C12. I have never seen C6, so in practice it is C8 to C12.
But C12 isn't the same at all: this has to go trough the liver, while the others can be used directly.
For the others C8 is superior for using SubQ because it is very thin and small molecule size.
The commercial MCT steriods i have seen don't list solvents used or C8 vs C12 or C12. (just "MCT")

last thing:
After dialing the test in i want to try 1 or 2 units of HGH for a while to see if i can increase my healing and get my health back
Click to expand...
@rowi Making a very important decision based on what some YouTuber says is not a smart choice in life.

Why don't you get a log going? And we can see what we can do for you, until then, but there's a lot of things that need to be cleaned up.
 
rowi said:
I checked some sources listed here, don't reminder which ones: so will check your list later today.



Well that's kind of complex. Let me try to give some insight while keeping it compact.
My health isn't very good, i suffer from:
  • Migraines (as much as daily or even multi daily at times)
  • Sleep disorder
  • Depression
  • Anxiety attacks
  • Some genetic polymorphisms like reduced methylation and histamine intolerance
  • Brain fog
  • Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (CFS)
So i am not the average person here.
But why am i here then? Well my life has goon down hill like 5 years ago.
I had health issues before that, but then it got to the point i have to lay in bed most of my time.
Lost my life, my girlfriend and my company etc.
The last years at risk at losing my income and house due to my income insurance not being honest and trying to stop the payments.
So i have an attorney and a most likely a lawsuit i have to start, because they are in the wrong.

So before all this i had done some experimenting with my test levels and i really notice a difference when i have high T vs "normal" T.
I feel a lot better then. also my natural levels fluctuate from normal to above the reference range.
To view this content we will need your consent to set third party cookies.
For more detailed information, see our cookies page.

Then i watched a lot of videos like vigorous steve and some others and they talked about the mental improvements of trt+
So i remembered my blood work from the past and tried raising my T to see what it will do for me.
(the only thing i achieved in the last 5 years is a lot of knowledge gained)

I started with measuring and logging my balls weight and the introducing HCG.
I found around 1200 to be a replacement dose for the "normal" t level i have.
I ended up at 1750 IU weekly with daily dosing and that made me feel better: better mood, less in my head and no downsides.
Also i keep my muscle mass better this way. in the last 5 years i have been at 58KG at my lowest due to no appetite and laying in bed most of the time.
I also helps with the anxiety and gives me more stress tolerance.

So i liked this and wanted to go higher, but HCG is rather expensive and i still had stock for Test E that i bought in the past and only tried for 3 weeks. (didn't have the knowledge i have now)
So i started with the Test and tried to order more, but the source is closed now.

So i plan to be on actual TRT at some point. But here in my country this is not really a thing.
Also my levels are normal at the low point where i feel worse, so i don't have hypogonadism.
So i do this myself and i want to build up to TRT+ (slightly supraphysiological)
Like 250/300 Test or maybe 200T + 100 Primo.
This is mostly based on how i feel.
I will get new migraine medication as well and i hope to get out of this hole I'm in.
i really want to start building my life up again

It is starting to get long anyway, i'm trying to keep it short.
Why i use C8 MCT oil: it is really thin and almost looks like water.
I use it SubQ daily and have absolutely perfect injections: no pip, no lumps nothing. (i test on lean part of my legs)
I had bought Test E from the HCG source i have. this is unique pharma.
That uses BA BB and GSO, then i get pip (burning) and a lump that stays for weeks.
Like i said i don't use BB myself: i just tried to make 200mg/ml without BB and that works great.
It dissolves without heating even and no crashing out, not even when i put it in the fridge.
I have a sensitive body, so the less chemicals the better.
But in this case i might be the GSO and not the BB, i would have to test this.

Another problem i face:
MCT can be C6 to C12. I have never seen C6, so in practice it is C8 to C12.
But C12 isn't the same at all: this has to go trough the liver, while the others can be used directly.
For the others C8 is superior for using SubQ because it is very thin and small molecule size.
The commercial MCT steriods i have seen don't list solvents used or C8 vs C12 or C12. (just "MCT")

last thing:
After dialing the test in i want to try 1 or 2 units of HGH for a while to see if i can increase my healing and get my health back
Click to expand...
@rowi I'm glad that you are starting to feel better but keep in mind. A lot of the things wrong with, you can be solved in other ways.

You might want to see maybe a psychologist and see maybe if there's medication as well.
 
rowi said:
Hey everyone! Just made an account after finding this forum.
Awesome a place like this exists.

Could not find my answer with the search function, so here is my first thread.

I used to buy raws and brew with C8 MCT oil using only BA, No BB.
This way i would only have to trust 1 source and i avoid seed oils in my diet, so also don't want to inject them.

Now i lost my source and i have been looking all over the internet for some good reviews on a new one.
I have noticed the general consensus here is to not buy raws.
That's a regulatory thing, but for me (NL/EU) raws vs finished product is OK to buy, as long as it is personal use (no large quantities).
But i have also read the raws quality is bad at the moment, but would the finished product also suffer from this?

Anyway i don't mind buying finished products at all, but as there is no label you don't know what's added.
I have looked trough the sources and found that the web shops also don't provide info about oil and solvents.

I want MCT based, and no chemical solvents like EO. Preferable no BB even.
Can someone give me some tips on how i can find what i am looking for.
Click to expand...
@rowi

There is a thread on here for home brewing. You should dig that one up. Lots of good info in that.
 
rowi said:
Hey everyone! Just made an account after finding this forum.
Awesome a place like this exists.

Could not find my answer with the search function, so here is my first thread.

I used to buy raws and brew with C8 MCT oil using only BA, No BB.
This way i would only have to trust 1 source and i avoid seed oils in my diet, so also don't want to inject them.

Now i lost my source and i have been looking all over the internet for some good reviews on a new one.
I have noticed the general consensus here is to not buy raws.
That's a regulatory thing, but for me (NL/EU) raws vs finished product is OK to buy, as long as it is personal use (no large quantities).
But i have also read the raws quality is bad at the moment, but would the finished product also suffer from this?

Anyway i don't mind buying finished products at all, but as there is no label you don't know what's added.
I have looked trough the sources and found that the web shops also don't provide info about oil and solvents.

I want MCT based, and no chemical solvents like EO. Preferable no BB even.
Can someone give me some tips on how i can find what i am looking for.
Click to expand...
Can I ask why? Is it an allergy issue?
 
thanks for the replies

Yeah I'm not looking for TRT to solve all those things, and i am under full medical care including psychologist.
Good to point me in that direction though.
Believe me i do what i can including eating healthy while my depression has me craving junk non stop.
Even in this state I'm in i look better then most "normal" people. (not like the pics i see here obviously, but you get my point)

Look at it like this:
Steroids where actually developed for muscle wasting disease, since i have to be sedentary (in bed) a lot i suffer from that.
Second:
Like i said my T fluctuates from normal to above the reference range (slightly) naturally and i feel way better when it's high.
So I'm looking to get to that level, but stable.

After using HCG mono i already have reduces my panic attacks.
Trying HGH makes a lot of sense since i am 40 and HGH isn't as high anymore.
Looking to try low dose 1-2 IUs for improved healing and sleep.

Can I ask why? Is it an allergy issue?
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yeah i tend to have allergies come and go, so i don't like adding to much variables

Why don't you get a log going?
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i like that idea, how can i do this?

i didn't have time to go through the recommended sources yet, this is on my todo list though

There is a thread on here for home brewing. You should dig that one up. Lots of good info in that.
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also for sources? i didn't find that one yet

Making a very important decision based on what some YouTuber says is not a smart choice in life.
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it got me thinking to try this route I'm on (combined with what i know about my T levels)
that's why i also will keep running the HCG, so my balls will keep working
i could always go back to HCG mono since i already find benefits from that

no to be cocky but I'm high IQ and this all makes sense since I'm 40
i spent years learning about hormones and trt etcetera because of the life enhancing benefits
so all advise is welcome, but don't worry about me asking for a magic pill or having a not well thought trough plan
I'm just trying to help my body get better in a way that the normal healthcare can't help me with
also I'm fully transparent with them, like i said buying and using is not illegal here

final question:
what is the best bang for the buck HGH i can find?
 
rowi said:
I checked some sources listed here, don't reminder which ones: so will check your list later today.



Well that's kind of complex. Let me try to give some insight while keeping it compact.
My health isn't very good, i suffer from:
  • Migraines (as much as daily or even multi daily at times)
  • Sleep disorder
  • Depression
  • Anxiety attacks
  • Some genetic polymorphisms like reduced methylation and histamine intolerance
  • Brain fog
  • Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (CFS)
So i am not the average person here.
But why am i here then? Well my life has goon down hill like 5 years ago.
I had health issues before that, but then it got to the point i have to lay in bed most of my time.
Lost my life, my girlfriend and my company etc.
The last years at risk at losing my income and house due to my income insurance not being honest and trying to stop the payments.
So i have an attorney and a most likely a lawsuit i have to start, because they are in the wrong.

So before all this i had done some experimenting with my test levels and i really notice a difference when i have high T vs "normal" T.
I feel a lot better then. also my natural levels fluctuate from normal to above the reference range.
To view this content we will need your consent to set third party cookies.
For more detailed information, see our cookies page.

Then i watched a lot of videos like vigorous steve and some others and they talked about the mental improvements of trt+
So i remembered my blood work from the past and tried raising my T to see what it will do for me.
(the only thing i achieved in the last 5 years is a lot of knowledge gained)

I started with measuring and logging my balls weight and the introducing HCG.
I found around 1200 to be a replacement dose for the "normal" t level i have.
I ended up at 1750 IU weekly with daily dosing and that made me feel better: better mood, less in my head and no downsides.
Also i keep my muscle mass better this way. in the last 5 years i have been at 58KG at my lowest due to no appetite and laying in bed most of the time.
I also helps with the anxiety and gives me more stress tolerance.

So i liked this and wanted to go higher, but HCG is rather expensive and i still had stock for Test E that i bought in the past and only tried for 3 weeks. (didn't have the knowledge i have now)
So i started with the Test and tried to order more, but the source is closed now.

So i plan to be on actual TRT at some point. But here in my country this is not really a thing.
Also my levels are normal at the low point where i feel worse, so i don't have hypogonadism.
So i do this myself and i want to build up to TRT+ (slightly supraphysiological)
Like 250/300 Test or maybe 200T + 100 Primo.
This is mostly based on how i feel.
I will get new migraine medication as well and i hope to get out of this hole I'm in.
i really want to start building my life up again

It is starting to get long anyway, i'm trying to keep it short.
Why i use C8 MCT oil: it is really thin and almost looks like water.
I use it SubQ daily and have absolutely perfect injections: no pip, no lumps nothing. (i test on lean part of my legs)
I had bought Test E from the HCG source i have. this is unique pharma.
That uses BA BB and GSO, then i get pip (burning) and a lump that stays for weeks.
Like i said i don't use BB myself: i just tried to make 200mg/ml without BB and that works great.
It dissolves without heating even and no crashing out, not even when i put it in the fridge.
I have a sensitive body, so the less chemicals the better.
But in this case i might be the GSO and not the BB, i would have to test this.

Another problem i face:
MCT can be C6 to C12. I have never seen C6, so in practice it is C8 to C12.
But C12 isn't the same at all: this has to go trough the liver, while the others can be used directly.
For the others C8 is superior for using SubQ because it is very thin and small molecule size.
The commercial MCT steriods i have seen don't list solvents used or C8 vs C12 or C12. (just "MCT")

last thing:
After dialing the test in i want to try 1 or 2 units of HGH for a while to see if i can increase my healing and get my health back
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@rowi what country are you from that you cant get TRT or testosterone?

is your life in recovery now?

I really want to see you share a life changing journal log with us, can you do that bro?
 
my list of what i found:
i asked puritysourcelabs about the oils used, waiting for a response
(still looking for mct based test and primo)

i will start a log, is that just a special forum where i can post? or how does that work?

what i want to try for my brain:
and like i said 1-2 IU HGH for healing / brain

not all at once off course, but i will create a good testing method when i have sourced everything

so I'm busy, but i will keep this post updated

@LevButlerov
And why havent you followed up on your conversation here?
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sharp of you to recognize me in the other post 👊
don't worry i wont ghost you guys, I'm sourcing
 
rowi said:
my list of what i found:
i asked puritysourcelabs about the oils used, waiting for a response
(still looking for mct based test and primo)

i will start a log, is that just a special forum where i can post? or how does that work?

what i want to try for my brain:
and like i said 1-2 IU HGH for healing / brain

not all at once off course, but i will create a good testing method when i have sourced everything

so I'm busy, but i will keep this post updated

@LevButlerov


sharp of you to recognize me in the other post 👊
don't worry i wont ghost you guys, I'm sourcing
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@rowi I'm a moderator it's my job to notice and help EVO family brothers :D and Euro pharma is a great brand, PSL is #1 22 years in business.
check their EVO sub
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/puritysourcelabs-ru-reviews-community.191/
They have reps here @~Vision~ @macedog24 @Phill @OTG85

For starting a log, for you you're starting with a basic training log, I'll lay out instructions below for you. Will take you 15min to post it.

HOW-TO LOG?

  • To really guide you we need more info from you.
  • Please share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us in a NEW thread, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.
  • It will take 15-20 minutes max.
  • We have 100s of years of experience between us, so you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.
Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.elitefitness.com/forum/forums/anabolic-steroids.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My Training nutrition Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here are examples of LOG Journals
https://www.elitefitness.com/forum/threads/my-anavar-training-and-diet-log-female.1511541/
https://www.elitefitness.com/forum/threads/mobster-back-on-the-grind-log.1510711/
https://www.elitefitness.com/forum/threads/domestic-supply-com-bulking-log-25homes.1511207/
https://www.elitefitness.com/forum/...olan-equipoise-tbol-contest-prep-log.1511050/
https://www.elitefitness.com/forum/...as-hgh-and-bpc157-recovery-cycle-log.1511202/
https://www.elitefitness.com/forum/threads/my-trt-cruise-and-recovery-log.1511365/
https://www.elitefitness.com/forum/threads/my-testosterone-tbol-cycle-log.1511553/
https://www.elitefitness.com/forum/threads/slyder-24-bulk-cycle-log.1511035/
https://www.elitefitness.com/forum/threads/my-fat-loss-journey-log.1511598/
https://www.elitefitness.com/forum/threads/testosterone-enanthate-and-equipoise-cycle-log.1510786
https://www.elitefitness.com/forum/...e-log-anavar-testosterone-primobolan.1510842/
https://www.elitefitness.com/forum/threads/my-trt-and-deca-cycle-log.1510259/
https://www.elitefitness.com/forum/...testosterone-cypionate-and-primobolan.1510219
https://www.elitefitness.com/forum/threads/my-sustanon-300-and-deca-durabolin-300-cycle-log.1510312
https://www.elitefitness.com/forum/threads/log-ep-for-healing-recovery.1509399
https://www.elitefitness.com/forum/...edemption-cutting-phase-starting-now.1509713/
https://www.elitefitness.com/forum/threads/this-guys-test-var-proviron-cycle-log.1508625/
https://www.elitefitness.com/forum/threads/slyder-sarm-log-gw-acp-rad.1508383/
https://www.elitefitness.com/forum/threads/my-contest-cycle-log.1507439/
https://www.elitefitness.com/forum/threads/lymes-cycle-log.1507649/
https://www.elitefitness.com/forum/threads/my-trenbolone-winstrol-log.1507351/

P.S. are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should; this podcast is about steroids, sarms, peptides, and bodybuilding:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/

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I'm a moderator it's my job to notice and help EVO family brothers
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you guys are doing a great job, i actually feel welcome here
even though I'm here with a body healing mission

There is no source for the following on here, so I'm going to use this source again (i have used this before):
I'm looking into others (not too expensive ones) since i have to order anyway:
The HGH is out of stock at PSL, so waiting for that.
Also contacted Euro-Pharmacies for the oil used, waiting on that.

Dihexa i have ordered in the past and never tried it, so i have that in stock.

That's my update basically.

Extra:
The product RETIN-A, this is tretinoin, is interesting to me, because i know it is used to improve skin health (it increased new skin cell turnover) in the bio hacking corner.
It also works against acne and therefore I'm mentioning tretinoin, since i know a lot of people use Accutane and that is very harsh on the body.
I know i tend to get acne when my hormones fluctuate, so in all my testing so far i have always gradually ramped up or down to avoid this.
So i would like to try this for better skin and it is nice to have on hand if i should get acne.
Is tretinoin used in this community?

Extra 2:
I used to have a lot of acne issues in the past.
This product really helps me a lot, to the point it's not an issue anymore.
https://www.gladskin.co.uk/products/acne-gel
I'm sharing this so i can give back some value here :)
This product act like topical antibiotics without any of the down sides.

Staphefekt is a proprietary enzyme (endolysin) developed by the Dutch biotech company Micreos for the treatment of Staphylococcus aureus skin infections in humans2. It is the first commercially available endolysin and is marketed in Gladskin products2. Staphefekt can weaken the cell wall of only S. aureus bacteria, which causes the bacteria to fall apart1.


Staphefekt has been proven effective in killing S. aureus strains that are resistant to antibiotics, such as MRSA, and has been used to treat S. aureus-related dermatosis2.


Staphefekt SA.100 is a recombinant phage endolysin for topical skin application that specifically targets both methicillin-sensitive and methicillin-resistant S. aureus45. Because of its mechanism of action, bacterial resistance is unlikely to develop45.


A study of three cases showed that continuous topical treatment with Staphefekt SA.100 to suppress S. aureus can reduce and prevent clinical symptoms of S. aureus-related skin conditions, like folliculitis and impetiginized dermatitis4.
 
rowi said:
you guys are doing a great job, i actually feel welcome here
even though I'm here with a body healing mission

There is no source for the following on here, so I'm going to use this source again (i have used this before):
I'm looking into others (not too expensive ones) since i have to order anyway:
The HGH is out of stock at PSL, so waiting for that.
Also contacted Euro-Pharmacies for the oil used, waiting on that.

Dihexa i have ordered in the past and never tried it, so i have that in stock.

That's my update basically.

Extra:
The product RETIN-A, this is tretinoin, is interesting to me, because i know it is used to improve skin health (it increased new skin cell turnover) in the bio hacking corner.
It also works against acne and therefore I'm mentioning tretinoin, since i know a lot of people use Accutane and that is very harsh on the body.
I know i tend to get acne when my hormones fluctuate, so in all my testing so far i have always gradually ramped up or down to avoid this.
So i would like to try this for better skin and it is nice to have on hand if i should get acne.
Is tretinoin used in this community?

Extra 2:
I used to have a lot of acne issues in the past.
This product really helps me a lot, to the point it's not an issue anymore.
https://www.gladskin.co.uk/products/acne-gel
I'm sharing this so i can give back some value here :)
This product act like topical antibiotics without any of the down sides.

Staphefekt is a proprietary enzyme (endolysin) developed by the Dutch biotech company Micreos for the treatment of Staphylococcus aureus skin infections in humans2. It is the first commercially available endolysin and is marketed in Gladskin products2. Staphefekt can weaken the cell wall of only S. aureus bacteria, which causes the bacteria to fall apart1.


Staphefekt has been proven effective in killing S. aureus strains that are resistant to antibiotics, such as MRSA, and has been used to treat S. aureus-related dermatosis2.


Staphefekt SA.100 is a recombinant phage endolysin for topical skin application that specifically targets both methicillin-sensitive and methicillin-resistant S. aureus45. Because of its mechanism of action, bacterial resistance is unlikely to develop45.


A study of three cases showed that continuous topical treatment with Staphefekt SA.100 to suppress S. aureus can reduce and prevent clinical symptoms of S. aureus-related skin conditions, like folliculitis and impetiginized dermatitis4.
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I would wait for PSL to help you, they might even be able to get you the peptides you need, ask them.

It's hard to say what your acne is from without knowing more about you in log form. @rowi
 
I contacted euro pharmacies for the oil used question. They didn't want to tell me.
From the picture i can see it's clear, so i assumed MCT oil.

After some digging i found this post from Apr 7, 2022

Euro-Pharmacies Carrier Oil information - ENSURING EXCELLENCE and what’s inside, this is what matters most!

Euro-Pharmacies NEW 15mL vial carrier Oil information MTC C10+C8
MCT OIL: It is composed of C8 Caprylic and C10 Capric Triglycerides

All Euro-Pharmacies oils in the NEW 15mL vials will be compounded with the finest pharma grade vehicle oils on the market,
NO synthetic oils. REAL MCT oil..

Some of these same carries are used world wide in clinics all around the world to avoid lymphatic acute reactions,
absolute NO food derivatives in order to avoid site irritation or localize swelling for utmost comfort!
Euro-Pharmacies product line with oils have been proven with 100% certainty to have minimal immune response:
1. Second to None - user friendly experience for a smoother and Painless injection with each and every administration.
2. Body/System 100% Smooth & Effective applicability and response.
3. 100% Pharma Grade Feature of: dissolving/applying with the "essence" in the system/body right from the start.

Valuable information
With Euro-Pharmacies Oil based compounds - Absolutely NO EO-OIL is used or other food derivatives for carrier delivery method with all parenting hormones, as EP understands the sensitivities due to allergic reactions with some carries.
EP's oil base products are smooth with less site irritation like most other carriers, while providing a more stable and longer shelf life of the suspended drugs.

EURO-PHARMACIES MANUFACTURING METHODS , SUPPLIES , SEMI PRODUCTS AND ALL OPERATING ELEMENTS ARE COMPLETELY/CONSTANTLY UP TO DATE WITH ALL THE LATEST GLOBAL STANDARDS.

1. Carrier Oils used in EP Injectable Products Line manufacturing processes are completely Pharmaceutical Grade. MTC C10+C8, Hypoallergenic and Completely Clear/Transparent in terms of Color properties.
(No tint- No impurity and Completely Infection/Contamination Proof)
A. Hormone Raw Materials batches applied in production processes Can Naturally differ in Color Tint Properties
Therefore it's sometimes possible that some particular EP Line Product Batches can differ in terms of color tint rate.(Due to 100% Clear - Transparent Carrier Oil Appearance Property)

2. Solely Pharmaceutical Grade Hormone Raw Materials used in EP Injectable Products Line manufacturing processes.
(Provided only by Official and Certified Pharmaceutical Manufacturers)

3. Solely Pharmaceutical Grade Hormone Raw Materials used in EP Oral Products Line manufacturing processes.
A. Professional and HIGHEST QUALITY Fillers applied to EP Oral Products Line. (ie. starch , PVP etc.)

More info
EP Line Crystal Clear/Pro. Carrier Oils Clarification
Original EP Line uses Pharma Grade Carrier Oils.
Some products such as Trenbolone will NOT be clear due to oxidization during the compounding process...
EP oil product uses only Pharma Grade carrier oils hypoallergenic/smooth/most efficiently dissolved-merged for customers convivence and well-being.

Euro-Pharmacies product line with oils have been proven with 100% certainty to have minimal immune response:
1. Second to None - user friendly experience for a smoother and Painless injection with each and every administration.
2. Body/System 100% Smooth & Effective applicability and response.
3. 100% Pharma Grade Feature of: dissolving/applying with the "essence" in the system/body right from the start.
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and for the solvents used i found this:

NO EO OIL USED OR food derivatives due to allergic reactions"!
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https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/source-without-ethyl-oleate.62873/

so i have found what i was looking for :)

https://puritysourcelabs.ru/ep-inje...anthate-200mgml-15mlvial-euro-pharmacies.html

now the only problem: there is no stock currently
 
rowi said:
their 15ml vial also has a lower concentration at 200mg/ml
i used to brew at 200 myself so i could avoid all solvents (BB)
so this product makes a lot of sense to me, i think they are doing the same i did and produce as clean of a product as possible
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Its possible but gear without BB is a mess.
 
rowi said:
I contacted euro pharmacies for the oil used question. They didn't want to tell me.
From the picture i can see it's clear, so i assumed MCT oil.

After some digging i found this post from Apr 7, 2022



and for the solvents used i found this:



https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/source-without-ethyl-oleate.62873/

so i have found what i was looking for :)

https://puritysourcelabs.ru/ep-inje...anthate-200mgml-15mlvial-euro-pharmacies.html

now the only problem: there is no stock currently
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So pick the 10ml. I think the 15's (which I love) are being phased out
 
rowi said:
Ah wait I read your comment wrong.

They show restock on the website, i send them a message to verify.

What / who is "Hobson"?
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Talk to them I'm sure they can arrange. @rowi
 
rowi said:
Ah wait I read your comment wrong.

They show restock on the website, i send them a message to verify.

What / who is "Hobson"?
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Hobsons Choice: "Hobson's choice" refers to a situation where you are presented with a single option, and refusing it means you get nothing at all. It's a situation where there's an illusion of choice, but in reality, there's only one way to proceed. The phrase originated from a Cambridge liveryman named Thomas Hobson, who famously only offered his customers the horse nearest the stable door

Let me know what they say about restocking. It might well be they don't have a 'phasing out' option on their site admin
 
LevButlerov said:
Talk to them I'm sure they can arrange. @rowi
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I'm a HUGE fan of their 15ml product. But they either sell or they don't. If they weren't as popular as hoped it make sense to sell off stock and go back to focusing on the traditional 10ml. Arguably the doses per ml are also slightly different (200 vs 250mg ml for example)
 
rowi said:
i can confirm: they stopped producing the 15ml

Hobsons Choice: okay thanks, i speak Dutch / NL so i didn't get that one.

You say you love the 15ml, what will be your alternative now then? same brand 10ml?
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I thought as much without asking them. Just feedback.

I think there was even a movie called Hobsons Choice (B&W so 1950??)

PSL pretty much only sell EP so 100% the same brand. Due to customs issues I've had the last 3-4 orders draw on UK stock. For example I placed an order yesterday which includes the very last 15ml vials of one item. I always stock ahead so have a decent stash built up. But I can see me switching to 10ml no problem
 
rowi said:
i can confirm: they stopped producing the 15ml

Hobsons Choice: okay thanks, i speak Dutch / NL so i didn't get that one.

You say you love the 15ml, what will be your alternative now then? same brand 10ml?
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10ml is just fine. Start with just basic TRT @rowi, get 125mgs testosterone in you to start.
 
rowi said:
i have a plan in my log, I'm at 100 and i wanted to raise to 150 and do blood after 4 weeks on that
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Start with 100 and get the log fully updated, we have been waiting @rowi I see log but no pics.
 
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