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Hey group, I need help. I'm a 50 yo male trying winstrol tabs for the first time. I'm 5'9 185lbs 10% bf eating a clean diet. I'm doing Crossfit and just want to be the best I can be. All I want to know is the safest way to take winny. Yes, I've done a lot of research so I'm aware of liver, hair loss, issues etc. Help!
Well in my Opinion, you're not old ~ got you by 14 years.
Winstrol is the absolute last Oral you want to do at your age.
It's incredibly tough on the Joints, as it will Dry them out.
Anavar would be better, but I would also include some Test in a cycle.............................................. JP
Winstrol is the absolute last Oral you want to do at your age.
It's incredibly tough on the Joints, as it will Dry them out.
Anavar would be better, but I would also include some Test in a cycle.............................................. JP
Sorry, I replied to the wrong post. JP, I'm suprised to find someone older than me trying or doing aas. Since you sound like you know what you're doing, can you give me some specific recommendations for my above goals. I've tried almost every legal, natural alternative. When you're over 50, it's almost impossible to build muscle and keep it. Thanks in advance!
1st things 1st when you are over 50.
You need to do a Pre-Cycle Bloodwork, if you're not getting regular Bloodwork by your Physician.
You need to make sure that you're Healthy enough to do a Cycle.
As it's a Strain on the Heart/Liver/Kidneys ~ but to mitigate that ~ Tudca & NAC will be most beneficial.
A simple 10 or 12 Week Cycle of a Longer Ester Test like Cypionate or Enanthate is what you want to do.
This way twice a week Injections is all you need, and you could see some Nice Gains.
If your Diet and Training are dialed-in ~ I'm assuming you have that under control.
Before giving you a layout, do you know what an AI (aromatase inhibitor) is and also about SERMs (selective estrogen receptor modulators) for your PCT (Post Cycle Therapy)................................ JP
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winstrol only will hardly produce any results. From my research and personal use, I can say you will have much better results with Anavar or Tbol like JP suggested. Ortal only cycles should only be run for short periods hovering around the 4 week mark. They can be very harsh on the organs if run for much longer than that. The two orals listed above are fairly safe and not nearly as harsh as Winnie or Dbol. Hope this information helps,
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JP, thank you! I just had a blood draw but haven't got the results yet. I had them do a "T" level as well. Like I said in my previous post, I'm doing high intensity training with a lot of cardio so Anavar may be a problem as it causes back pump which would a huge problem! That being said, it sounds like Test and something else would be the ideal. To answer your other question, I'm not very familiar with AL or SERMS. Thanks again.
I am 50 as well started AAS at 49 after blood work is done and all ok I would suggest 500 mg test E or cyp pin twice a week with10 mg Aromison (an AI) every other day. Add in Tudac milk thistle and NAC or N2 guard every day.run for 12 weeks by week 8 you will see awesome gains if exercise and diet on point. Gallon or more water daily. Anavar gave me horrible back and calf pumps.
Your Doctor is a little off.
The Normal range goes from 300 Ng/dl to 1,050 Ng/dl.
There's nothing normal if you're at 200 Ng/dl ~ you're TRT Material, and need help.
So you are very good for your age.
But Yes, you still need to do Test for a Cycle.
Test is the Base for All Cycles, and will help Cement Gains................................ JP
P.S.
I use to get that all the time from my Doctor ~ but not anymore ~ he's been my doc for the last decade.
As my Total Test use to be 924 Ng/dl.
Now it's in the High 800's.
I'm glad all your questions were answered brother. Check out this video I made where I explain how to run your first steroid cycle -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqBLCSaKsW4
Here's what I recommend:
Weeks 1 - 10
testosterone e or cyp 500mg/week (inject 250mg twice per week)
aromasin 12.5mg every other day (very important to prevent against estrogen related side effects like gyno and water retention)
After your cycle run the perfect PCT protocol: http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/
my advice for crossfit is forget steroids, atleast for now
i would use SARM's
a very simple but effective stack that will boost your crossfit is LGD + GW
as simple as that
JP is absolutely right to stay the fuck away from winstrol. it is the most overrated steroid in existance all cause ben johnson got caught using it (so people think it is so great), plus it sounds like winni the poo.
it would be HORRIBLE for crossfit. it will rip up your joints and give you crippling pumps
i would use SARM's
a very simple but effective stack that will boost your crossfit is LGD + GW
as simple as that
JP is absolutely right to stay the fuck away from winstrol. it is the most overrated steroid in existance all cause ben johnson got caught using it (so people think it is so great), plus it sounds like winni the poo.
it would be HORRIBLE for crossfit. it will rip up your joints and give you crippling pumps
If you run test then I would definitely add Cardarine for the endurance benefits. Test can hinder endurance a bit so adding Cardarine is a great idea for crossfit.
Thank you! I've been using GW and it works! My cardio sessions have increased significantly. GW kicks in for me towards the middle of the cardio session and then I feel like I could go forever. I want to try Test because because I need to put on muscle to be competitive and at my age, it's very difficult.
Jay Scott
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Yes, cardarine is indeed a killer when it comes to cardio. Always helps through long sessions.
As for test - if you are in your 50s, I am sure that even a small amount of testosterone would make a huge difference.
Jay, what do you consider a small amount of test? I was thinking 200-250mg per week for 12wks.
Jay Scott
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Yeah, 200-250mgs will already make quite a difference at your age for sure.
I would always recommend using 500mg of test in a cycle, but as I said - you will feel even smaller doses.
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