Oxandrovar first time

[Shredman]

I am looking to start an oxandrovar cycle to shred out a little bit. I am new here and I dont really know what I am doing. I am also on a bit of a budget so I am wondering what the best possible cycle and PCT is? SARMS seem a little expensive for me at this point, is it worth doing oxandrovar alone?

My stats are 5'9, 180lbs, 8-10% bodyfat, 23 years old. I train 5 times a week and am currently in maintenance as far as my diet. My arms and shoulders are shredded, but my chest and lower abs and obliques are still fatty. I was hoping to put on a little size and lean out to get rid of that last little bit of fat on my belly, my chest, and my sides.

If possible could someone provide me with a bare minimum oxandrovar cycle that will keep me safe from sides?

 

[gymrat827]

can you afford to go 6wks? it is really worth it, it allows for your gains to mature and really stay put once the cycle is over.

Do you want to run a serm in pct or go without one?

Id for sure get 1 or 2 bottles of hcgenerate for pct. Also running osta in pct is really going to help your gains mature and keep the fat off your body. sarms 1 may be still having a sale so you can save a lil cash if you act quick.

your going to need to run N2gaurd for overall protection for your liver, BP, prostate and so on.

what are your plans as of now?

 

[Shredman]

I definitely have gyno issues. As I said my arms, shoulders, legs and upper abs are shredded and vascular, however I do have somewhat puffy nips and a terrible lower mid-section. I am going to try and piece together a good cycle before summer next year. Do you recommend running some type of SERM? Will this help get rid of or reduce my potential gyno?

 

[your123man]

If your just holding the stubborn fat areas that are from calcification and estrogen deposits over time, save your money for now. I would suggest this instead:

-Carb cycle, this costs you virtually nothing.
-yohimbine hcl 7.5mg upon waking with a cup of black coffee. Yohimbine hcl is VERY inexpensive comparitively.
-follow that up with FASTED cardio, split between hiit followed by steady state. 30min total every day (so 15/15). This again is free.
-shower after cardio. Once you get out, apply yohimflame to the specific fatty areas. Particularly your abs, obliques, and lower back. This again is relatively inexpensive.
-take another 7.5mg yohimbine hcl about 12hrs after the first dose.

Theres a lot of additional costs to properly run a ph. And in the end, if cost is a concern, you will benefit more from saving for a full and proper cycle than little dives like what you are proposing

 

[Shredman]

Yeah that sounds good, I am doing intermittant fasting diet at the moment and it seems to be working quite well. I used to be quite fat so I believe that estrogen is an issue for me. If I was to piece together a good cutting cycle what would it look like?
I have seen the anti-gyno cycle but I am nervous because I have a steady girlfriend and I dont want my libido to fall off and my D not work.

 

[your123man]

Well, personal oppinion time. If you have LEGIT gyno from being obese/puberty, that is-perminant breast tissue from hormonal imbalances, science and technology has come so far as to make gland removal easy, safe, and effective. Then you never have to deal with it and there are relatively no side effects to having them removed.

Why fuck with drugs to POSSIBLY put a dent into an issue that can be cleared in one procedure.

 

[gymrat827]

you need to take some nolva or ralox + letro first before you cycle. get rid or reduce the gyno as much as you can, than start it.

 

[stevesmi]

oxandrovar is a powerful PH and should be treated just like any oral steroid

yes you should run a pct, that is if you want to keep your gains

 

[Shredman]

Yeah but wont that kill my sex drive?

 

[RickRock]

Yeah but wont that kill my sex drive?

Letro can definitely kill your sex drive, but it is best for fighting gyno. You want to make sure that is taken care of before starting Oxandrovar to get the most out of your cycle. It is an awesome formula of compounds, but you want to go into the cycle ready to run it.

 

[dylangemelli]

Well, personal oppinion time. If you have LEGIT gyno from being obese/puberty, that is-perminant breast tissue from hormonal imbalances, science and technology has come so far as to make gland removal easy, safe, and effective. Then you never have to deal with it and there are relatively no side effects to having them removed.

Why fuck with drugs to POSSIBLY put a dent into an issue that can be cleared in one procedure.

Im going to have to agree with most of this... IF you have the means, then i COMPLETELY agree... Permanent removal is far and away the best, safest and most effective way to deal with this... As i said IF this is an option for you then in all honesty, its a no brainer...

For those that its not an option, your going to have to give here to take there etc... your going to have to make a sacrifice with something to treat something else... i always recommend using hcgenerate along with letro and possibly unleashed to help keep a strong libido during the protocol...

 

[hurricane]

I definitely have gyno issues. As I said my arms, shoulders, legs and upper abs are shredded and vascular, however I do have somewhat puffy nips and a terrible lower mid-section. I am going to try and piece together a good cycle before summer next year. Do you recommend running some type of SERM? Will this help get rid of or reduce my potential gyno?

are you sure you got gyno? or you got extra fat around the area.. there is a difference

 

[gymrat827]

OP, get this gyno issue sorted out before anything.

cycling can make it worse......it can really make it worse if you dont take a hi dose of an AI the whole time.

Run letro + ralox for 6wks. letro @ 1mg, slowly taper to 2mg, than back to 1mg. Ralox 60mg for 2wks, than 30mg for the rest of the time. This 6wk double stack will give you a good idea of what your dealing with.


letro/ralox stacked for 6wks should put a good dent or knock it out, if its something that can be done with a AI/Serm. if you go 6wks with both of these drugs and get no where, you need to go under the knife to get rid of this.

it may decrease enough to where its hard to notice, even if your lean....You may be happy with that ???? its hard to say.

Point is, give it a good solid go before you start a cycle. based off you 6wk anti-gyno run you ll know what your dealing with gyno wise & that is very very very important.

Some compounds you ll still be able to use, for example Masteron or Epistane are both anti-estrogenic compounds and will fight gyno while your on them. (im pretty sure epistane is in both oxandrovar and primobolandex)


As for not messing around with drugs to get it better..............Most dont have 5-6k under their pillow to spend on something like this. if you can buy ralox + letro for what you would spend out friday night, why not give it a try..??..??