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Possible Thyroid & Prolactin Issues?

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I am currently on my Week 8 of second cycle (Test E 500mg/Week, Tbol 60mg Week 1-6, Proviron 50mg ED) and I need some input. Last night while testing my nipples for sensitivity, neither of which are sensitive, I noticed a slight clear discharge excreting from them if squeezed fairly hard. This is the first time I have squeezed them to this degree, so I am unsure if this is normal? I have some slight pubertal gyno that is leftover from when I was a kid. It will occasionally flair up on cycle, however it is manageable with an AI and Nolva. I aromatize fairly easily so I began this cycle by taking Aromasin 12.5mg EOD until I noticed some high e2 sides in week 4 (puffy nipples, gyno flare up). I bumped up the Aromasin dose to 12.5mg ED and also began a 20mg daily dose of Nolva until the puffiness subsided in week 6.

Mid-cycle blood were completed in week 7 and I just got the results back last Friday. Total Test: 2500, Free Test: >50, and Estradiol: 36. Everything on the panel was within range. However, this is where I surely made my mistake. Upon receiving my results I dropped the Aromasin for 4 days and reverted back to a 12.5mg EOD dose due. This was due to the fact that I was feeling extremely lethargic and significantly less motivated than compared to my first cycle where I let my e2 run higher (nickname: “water buffalo”). I had assumed I performed better with high e2. I fucked up and did not get mid-cycle blood work done on my first cycle, so I don’t know exactly where my e2 was at during that time. Although, I was only dosing Adex 0.25mg EOD (bumped to 0.5mg EOD in week 8-9).

So as I said, I woke up yesterday morning and my nipples were extremely puffy yet still insensitive to the touch. By the end of the afternoon my gyno appeared to have flared up once again. I was squeezing them for sensitive areas when I noticed a small amount of clear fluid coming from each nipple if squeezed hard. Would caber be advised at this stage? I have already bumped my Aromasin back to 12.5mg ED and began another 20mg daily dose of Nolva. I am starting to think that my constant battle with my nipples could be a result of high prolactin. Unfortunately, neither my pre-cycle or mid-cycle bloods included Prolactin.

Also, my mid-cycle blood work also did not a include a Thyroid Panel. The last two weeks I have noticed that my body has a difficult time regulating its temperature. I am getting cold at times I shouldn’t be, and it takes me 15-20 minutes to warm up in the morning. My TSH was already borderline line low before I began this cycle (0.5). I had assumed my side effects (lethargic, dry skin, trouble concentrating) throughout this cycle were due to a fluctuation in my e2 while dialing in my AI dose, however could my Thyroid be the cause of this? This is what I am beginning to conclude as I was experiencing these symptoms even on the morning of my mid-cycle blood work. Yet, my e2 was at 36 and the rest of panel was perfect? Do you guys recommend more blood work?

Thanks in advance.
 
if you have existing gyno issues even with good management as you are doing, you should NEVER EVER be running 500mg of test a week. that is not gonna fly. stick to non aromatizing compounds

completely agree... a lot of times people dont understand how high of a rate test can convert to estrogen especially in people gyno prone or with existing issues... LOWER THE DOSE
 
if you have existing gyno issues even with good management as you are doing, you should NEVER EVER be running 500mg of test a week. that is not gonna fly. stick to non aromatizing compounds

What non-aromatizing compounds would you recommend specifically? Do you think stacking a low dose of test alongside a non-aromatizing compound would be advisable? Interestingly enough, I have not gotten sore or sensitive nipples on either cycle, so I had assumed I had done a fairly decent job at keeping my e2 in check. However the gyno had become more noticeable around week 4 both times. Any "swelling" disappeared during my PCT after the first cycle.
 
completely agree... a lot of times people dont understand how high of a rate test can convert to estrogen especially in people gyno prone or with existing issues... LOWER THE DOSE

How much lower would you suggest? The gyno is not horrible necessarily, and does not appear to be growing. It has yet to become sore or sensitive on either cycle, it just seems to become a bit more noticeable. It also dissipates during and after PCT. I am comfortable lowing the test dose, although I am not looking forward to dialing in a new AI dose. Do you have any recommendations? I assume surgery is my only option if I want to resolve the gyno issue completely. It doesn't bare too much of an effect on my aesthetic, it is just annoying to me personally.
 
500 mg has been the go to amount of test for as long as I can remember. It’s a arbitrary number but not far from the actual number most people seem to be able to handle without to many sides.
 
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