robo sust 350

[mabody]

So my first injection of robo sust 350 hurts like shit. Delt is red, hot and sore as all hell. All proper sterilization techniques applied etc. I'm thinking cuz I've never ran sust or a prop ester before that this, combined with the high mg content of the sust is causing me this discomfort. I have antibiotics on hand but i really don't know how i could have an infection. After running test cyp, test e, tren etc i haven't had pain like this. Second shot in now in opposing delt and damned if it isn't getting sore as hell already. Is this just my welcoming to the world of sust or what? Damn its sore lol

 

[RhinoMan84]

Had the same experience with his prop and cyp 400.

 

[jblaze]

High concentration of test is gonna be painful.

 

[-SD-]

This is common with sust and T400
Heat up the gear before inject and dilute with something else if you are stacking

 

[bonacris]

Unfortunately its common with high conc gear.

 

[mabody]

Ok thx, what would u suggest the best way to warm up gear is? Never done that before. ...

 

[bonacris]

I boil the kettle and put the boiling water into a plastic container only about an inch or so and put my vials into it for 30 seconds. Then I draw with a 21g and pin with a 25g. Always don't it this way never had issues only if I fuck up my pinning technique, shaking etc

 

[wags]

According to the late great Dan Duchine, oil can only hold 250mg of a test per cc, to get a higher mg like 300, 350, or 400mg per cc, a high alcohol content is added. It's that damn alcohol that makes all the pain and swelling. Dan recommend adding a sterile oil to dilute it. I knew of guys in the past, who did this and help greatly with the pain.

 

[stevesmi]

mix the gear.. I say this 100X a day on here

grab a vial of EQ and mix in 1/4th cc of that with this gear.. problem solved

 

[LevButlerov]

In order to get 350 mgs of test per injection they need to make it concentrated, and there is a lot of alcohol - these two factors make injections extremely painful.

Follow @stevesmi's advice, and you will be well off.

 

[kneelmeh]

If you check my last post, it is about the same problem. Just started pinning Robo's Sust and EQ and it looks like the first 2 pins will create some sort of discomfort. But you will be fine within few days. And @stevesmi's advice, I always mix my gear and that's how I have been pinning my EQ and SUST but the pain still occurred so I am guessing it depends on person to person.

You'll be ok in few days dude. Hope this helped!!!!!

 

[mabody]

Thx guys. I'm sure ur advice about eq is spot on however i don't have any nor the funds to pick any up. Any other cutting agents, i.e. sterile oils, vitamin b12 etc that could help maybe? Thx again

 

[TreyG]

Mix it for sure. I mix with tren and it helps a lot bro.

 

[hurricane]

In order to get 350 mgs of test per injection they need to make it concentrated, and there is a lot of alcohol - these two factors make injections extremely painful.

Follow @stevesmi's advice, and you will be well off.

this right here. its high concentration.you need to mix it down with something and it will help ten fold.

 

[mabody]

Any thoughts about mixing with other oils? Bout to buy some grape seed oil and mix that with the sust..... any thoughts?

 

[mabody]

Ok, so pinned right glute with sust. Warmed the shit out of glute with hot shower and then after injecting with heat pack. Not really too bad of pain this time around. No swelling, hotness etc. Some pain but bearable. I'm attributing this not so much to the warming although that prob helped some but more to injecting deeper (1 1/2") and into a larger muscle. I will b receiving some grape seed oil hopefully by the end of the week and will try delt again cutting the sust with gso. We'll c

 

[Kimo]

So my first injection of robo sust 350 hurts like shit. Delt is red, hot and sore as all hell. All proper sterilization techniques applied etc. I'm thinking cuz I've never ran sust or a prop ester before that this, combined with the high mg content of the sust is causing me this discomfort. I have antibiotics on hand but i really don't know how i could have an infection. After running test cyp, test e, tren etc i haven't had pain like this. Second shot in now in opposing delt and damned if it isn't getting sore as hell already. Is this just my welcoming to the world of sust or what? Damn its sore lol[/QUOTE

I had the same exact problem with the Sust 350. I was in severe pain for 3-4 days and moderate pain for 6 days. By the time I would pin my second shot of the week, I would still have pain from the first shot. Here is what worked for me.
1. Heat up the Sust to where it's almost hot.
2. Pin very slowly
3. Immediately take the hottest bath that you can withstand and sit there for at least 30 minutes

This may seem a bit extreme, but I'm not over exaggerate about the pain it causes me.

 

[NY REBEL]

Any thoughts about mixing with other oils? Bout to buy some grape seed oil and mix that with the sust..... any thoughts?

Bro I keep a 50ml jug steril GSO on hand just for this... Or I'm use tren, cause I love it. Lol

 

[mabody]

Bro I keep a 50ml jug steril GSO on hand just for this... Or I'm use tren, cause I love it. Lol

yea i got my 30ml gso today. Gonna pin it tomorrow right delt. 1ml sust and haven't decided if I'm gonna go 1/2 ml or 1ml gso.... what chu think?

 

[NY REBEL]

yea i got my 30ml gso today. Gonna pin it tomorrow right delt. 1ml sust and haven't decided if I'm gonna go 1/2 ml or 1ml gso.... what chu think?

Less then that, won't need much take pip away. 1/4 or less

 

[mabody]

Nice, thx bro