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Why do you have an advertisement for Need to Build Muscle in your signature?
This seemed like a reputable site that would not be promoting that obvious scam. We already have Elite Fitness, why would this site take that path?
Why do you have an advertisement for Need to Build Muscle in your signature?
This seemed like a reputable site that would not be promoting that obvious scam. We already have Elite Fitness, why would this site take that path?
fizzisnumerouno
<b>Moderator</b>
Would you be happy if I remove it?
Polish Rifle
New member
Polish Rifle says:
ROIDDERS is what my circle refers to as a mouth breather.
Sorry this has to be my first post, but I didn't see a proper forum subgroup for introductions. This thread stood out to me because I am currently on TRT prescribed from my physician and the results have literally been life changing. A brief history:
For the past 5 years, I've had full blood panels done every 6 months as part of my routine health checkup. About 3 years ago, my Test levels came in extremely low, and became progressively worse each test thereafter. My doctor held off prescribing me TRT for 2 1/2 years, until the symptoms of low test simply became unmanageable for me. I was depressed, terribly fatigued most hours of the day, putting on fat despite a 3-4 day workout schedule, and my libido was gone. With no previous steroid use, I decided it was time to start TRT and I couldn't be happier with where it's taken me.
After 8 months of TRT I've managed to lose 32lbs, my energy levels are through the roof, and my focus and mental state both personally and professionally are better than I can remember them being for decades. I'm also making progress in my training that rivals what I was doing in my early 30's. I'm currently in Wave 5 of Wendler's 5/3/1 program and have yet to stall on any of my lifts.
ROIDDER'S generalization that the majority of prescriptions are fake is garbage at best. I've been a member of a number of forums, and there's usually a few village idiots in each one. So far, from what I've read, you wear the Dunce cap quite well.
I look forward to taking part in better discussions with more intelligent members in the future.
Carry on.
Rifle
What do you have against ntbm.com they are a very reputable company with top notch customer service and high quality products. .
jbranken
Advanced Cyborg Brother
Don't start raising hell with sponsors and moderators with a single post to your name. I'll make you disappear quickly. If you have a problem with a sponsor, don't use them. Simple as that
Hope you didn't come here looking for a private source. No one is going to help you with a shit attitude and bashing an executive moderator
My thoughts exactly
fizzisnumerouno
<b>Moderator</b>
Thank you bro. I personally don't understand the hate other than other boards ripping them. For every board that has spoken negatively, you can find other boards ripping on that board's sponsor. I personally cannot vouch for anything other than the products I've ran. www.needtobuildmuscle.com whey, hcgenerate and n2guard have made a difference on-cycle and gk oxandrovar, now at myproh, was the best PH i've ever ran.
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the only people with negative things to say are those who are competitors or those who never tried the products.
I can tell you these products fly off the shelves for a reason and guys keep coming back
fizzisnumerouno
<b>Moderator</b>
It's funny bc people discuss endocrinology like it's a 100% exact science. You get ripped for talking about natty herbal test enhancer yet it works and has peer reviewed studies to back it (tongkat comes to mind). Let the haters hate. When my bloods come back close to homeostatic levels; I'll chive the fuck on.
I like NTBM products but it's products like phytoserms from ruthless for 150 bucks that in my experience is no better then a $60 product at best. I understand certain herbs are hard to attain and therefore will warrant charging higher prices but in a case like Fido sermons it inns up seeming a lot more like a scam than anything. That's just my opinion it isn't a jab at ruthless credibility but more at the pricing itself
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I agree with that 100%. High prices and outrageous claims are what get people going about supplements.
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But they would have to sell over twice as many at $60 as they do at $150, and work over twice as hard to make the same money! If only 50 people buy at $150, they don't need the extra 75 people they would have to get to buy at $60. And 50 people will still buy it at $150.
lololololol
Yeah I see the logic but it just doesn't give $150 worth of results is all I'm saying. I stacked that with bridge and daa and a few other things my last pct and had good workouts but I didn't feel even the whole stack gave me good libido or mood. I felt strong but not good. That doesn't mean it doesn't work but I could've gotten better results with HCG alone. Now HCGenerate I have not tried so it could be worth it. Bridge is WELL worth it. DAA we all know is worth it and more. I'd pay 150 for daa before phytoserms again
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I have the discounts for Test stack, phytoserms and RS transaderm. nobody has to pay those prices, I've got the hookups
That's good and those bring the prices back to a closer level that people are willing to pay for supplements.
The problem with people bashing supplement companies such as NTBM is that this is happening on steroid boards and people are expecting too much out of an OTC supplement. They want steroid like results and won't get them. But some of the claims these companies make these days lead people to believe that they will get those kind of results. So really if they want more product sold and less trash talking about their line of products they should back off on the outrageous marketing claims. That's my opinion on the matter anyways.
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Yeah I was curious about test stack. They're all impressive at least the info that we have about them and the little science we have makes them really attractive. I love the smell of all the exotic herbs inside.
Heard good stuff about transdermal though for sure. Just not a transdermal lover. All of those I've planned on trying at some point but just gave up because of money and of course I don't need PCTs anymore so those supps just fell by the wayside for me personally.
By the way, how would you say test stack is for raising free test, Steve? Do you think it could rival unleashed or is unleashed a better choice for simply lowering shbg on cycle?
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fizzisnumerouno
<b>Moderator</b>
When it comes to supplements the mark up on them is high pretty much anywhere you go. When you look at buying things in bulk you can look at some things that you can get it pretty much any store and if you have the means or the wherewithal to locate the ingredients and you, through trial and error, find quality products you could probably save yourself a ton of money. What do you really have the time to test each product for purity? Do you have the time to find out the proper ratios of each ingredient? That is my thing. I had a very good connection for multiple herbal products in bulk but it just was too time-consuming for me with my hectic schedule. Therefore, I purchased products from health stores. Time equals money and if you look at it that way it balances out to be a little more even.
well I can't speak for supplements I have never tried but Test Stack is awesome stuff. and I can hook up anyone with a bottle for way less than what it sells for. its all I use for pct now. if you love the way hcgenerate plumps your nuts and raises your libido and how unleashed makes you feel fantastic all around then you will love Test stack even more because it has what those do and a lot more. if you can't get motivated on pct then you are fucked and goodbye gains
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Indeed. I use to love planning out my pct so trt makes me kinda sad
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