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Hello, everyone. This is my first cycle and I'm coming in at the start of week 9 of my 10-week cycle on Ostarine. I'm a young, 22 year old guy who weighs in at just 150 lbs. I've been lifting for only about a year and a half. Now, before you criticize my background, know that I now KNOW all the mistakes I've made and how I've short-changed myself in terms of the fact that I SHOULDN'T EVEN BE TAKING STEROIDS YET and I intend to get off after this cycle.

So, here's the issue... I have not had a natural erection in 2 weeks now, bringing myself to erection takes a lot of work, and it's never very full anymore. My head is endlessly foggy and cloudy, and nothing I do will clear that up (no amount of coffee in the world helps for more than 5 minutes). My libido is super low, as well. My testes have not shrunk at all, nor have they grown. They seem the same size as ever. Am I shut down?

During this cycle I took an extremely low dose of Ostarine. I thought I was being smart, and that it wouldn't shut me down. I've only been taking 10 mg of Ostarine a day... I know that 25 is the normal amount, but I figured if that was normal for the bigger, older guys that were likely taking that much, it would be smart for a small guy like me to start at a low dose. But since then I've heard that any dose after a long enough cycle can signal your body to shut down natural production - even a low dose. Does this mean I've just short-changed myself and there was no point taking such a small dose?

In terms of getting off of Ostarine... What should I take for PCT and for how long should I take it? I have liquid Clomid already. Will I be okay? Will my body recover properly, or is there additional things I will need to do to make sure my HPT system gets up to speed properly?

In addition, how long should I wait and how experienced should I be before I actually start to cycle? Finally, since SARMS may be made illegal soon, is the shelf-life long enough to make it worthwhile to stock up and save them until I'm ready to properly cycle?

Thank you for your time and sorry for being a dumbass. I THOUGHT I was being smart... >__>"
 
Sounds like you go some pro-hormones and not SARMS . You shouldn't be shut down on that low of and dose of OSTA. I'm running twice that amount of OSTA along with S4 and LGD. I'm not shut down. Where did you get your stuff from?
 
I got it from Sarms1 so it should be legit. And I've shown no symptoms of prohormones - no acne or anything like that. I also know I have kind of a sensitive system, though? My body has always reacted very strongly to all substances and drugs - literally ALL. I have a very fast metabolism and it processes things very quickly. But idk if that actually has anything to do with it since I'm not a doc or scientist.
 
All of my Sarms come from Sarms1. I did not experience any acne or other prohormone related symptoms, nor did I experience big enough gains to suggest that I was using anything more than a low dose Ostarine. But I do have a very sensitive system... All drugs affect me very strongly, and I mean literally ALL drugs. Idk if its cause my metabolism is ridiculous or just my low body weight and naturally low body fat or what... But any help would be much appreciated.
 
Get blood work done. I thoughts are that your body is triggering that you need more estrogen to match the Testosterone it thinks it has in your system. Now I know you said you are using sarms and not AAS, but if for some reason that's what's happening you will get those side effects. Get a AI in your system. Anastrozole or letrozole maybe even would be best.
The other possible reason I can even think of is your receptors are just burnt out. Everyone is different and it shouldn't be labeled out.
 
Will Clomid not be sufficient? It's all I have currently and it'll take at least 2 weeks to get my hands on something more.
 
Where did you order the ostarine from? It sounds to me like you got fake ostarine and actually ran a pro-hormone. Remember that SARMS can only be legally sold as a research chemical liquid. Any capsulated SARMS product is most likely fake or laced with a pro-hormone. I recommend ordering from sarms1.com.

The good news is that you are young and your system will bounce back quick. I wouldn't mess with SERMS at your age. I would order a bottle of HCGenerate ES from n2bm.com and run the product at 5 capsules/day for 30 days as a mini PCT after your ostarine cycle. https://www.needtobuildmuscle.com/store/Cycle-Support-c26/HCGenerate-ES-p238.html
 
Majikseb said:
Will Clomid not be sufficient? It's all I have currently and it'll take at least 2 weeks to get my hands on something more.
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Yeah it could be if you jump off your cycle and right into it. Try some Hcgenerate also. It's way to get and fast. If not make your own with some horney goat weed, ginseng, zinc, vit e, vit c, fenugreek, Fadogia Agrestis...
All can be had at most grocery stores or vit shops
 
Majikseb said:
Will Clomid not be sufficient? It's all I have currently and it'll take at least 2 weeks to get my hands on something more.
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You need to get blood work done then brother. If you arnt waking up with some type of morning wood then your levels are off somewhere. Only way to know is blood work.
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I can get you a discount code
 
Majikseb said:
Will Clomid not be sufficient? It's all I have currently and it'll take at least 2 weeks to get my hands on something more.
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Alright bro I deleted the last news letter from them with the discount code (maybe someone else can post it up for him) but the test you want is :

"Hormone panel for females"

It will give you all of your blood counts and organ counts and testosterone level and estrogen level. Once you get it done and back which only takes about a day or two you can post it or pm me and I'll help decipher it for you.
 
Thanks man. Unfortunately I'm out of town so I won't be able to take the test or start clomid until I return to town in about a week. Is it going to hurt me to have these low test levels until then?
 
Majikseb said:
Thanks man. Unfortunately I'm out of town so I won't be able to take the test or start clomid until I return to town in about a week. Is it going to hurt me to have these low test levels until then?
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You will be fine - there will be no damage if you spend a week with low T. In any case, the best answer will come from a blood work, with precise numbers.
 
first off RELAX. we are not here to bash or flame. if you posted this on other steroid sites you would have had about 10 beta's jump all over you and bash cause they are insecure and have to do that.

let me first explain what happened and why it happened then I will tell you what to do

1. I think everyone is confused by your post. you said you ran a steroid cycle, but guys saw you ran ostarine with it and everyone thinks you only ran ostarine. from re-reading your post I am pretty sure that you ran AAS with a little ostarine. if I am wrong please say so.

2. when you run AAS then your pituitary glands stop working and you will become shutdown. you cannot take something else to 'prevent' shutdown. you can take things to enhance your cycle, to keep your balls plump, etc. but so such thing as preventing your pituitary glands from stopping and anyone who says otherwise is misinformed. ostarine is ran with steroids because it will help with your joints and give you an added boost without increasing sides.

3. anytime you use hormones, especially at your age when you are already extremely horny all the time, then you run the risk of changing things for the worse or better. its a risk cause steroids get to work on your reproductive system. considering you are only 22 and 150 pounds you realize already that steroids just aren't necessary right now to achieve your goals.

HOW TO FIX

come off the steroids and run a proper pct... if you ran a legit steroid cycle then run the 'perfect pct' exactly how it is laid out. bloodwork right now can't hurt, but it won't tell you much of anything cause the steroids are still in your system. the time to run bloods would be 3-4 weeks after you STOP pct. you can go to the link in my signature to find out how to get bloods and a discount code
 
stevesmi said:
first off RELAX. we are not here to bash or flame. if you posted this on other steroid sites you would have had about 10 beta's jump all over you and bash cause they are insecure and have to do that.

let me first explain what happened and why it happened then I will tell you what to do

1. I think everyone is confused by your post. you said you ran a steroid cycle, but guys saw you ran ostarine with it and everyone thinks you only ran ostarine. from re-reading your post I am pretty sure that you ran AAS with a little ostarine. if I am wrong please say so.

2. when you run AAS then your pituitary glands stop working and you will become shutdown. you cannot take something else to 'prevent' shutdown. you can take things to enhance your cycle, to keep your balls plump, etc. but so such thing as preventing your pituitary glands from stopping and anyone who says otherwise is misinformed. ostarine is ran with steroids because it will help with your joints and give you an added boost without increasing sides.

3. anytime you use hormones, especially at your age when you are already extremely horny all the time, then you run the risk of changing things for the worse or better. its a risk cause steroids get to work on your reproductive system. considering you are only 22 and 150 pounds you realize already that steroids just aren't necessary right now to achieve your goals.

HOW TO FIX

come off the steroids and run a proper pct... if you ran a legit steroid cycle then run the 'perfect pct' exactly how it is laid out. bloodwork right now can't hurt, but it won't tell you much of anything cause the steroids are still in your system. the time to run bloods would be 3-4 weeks after you STOP pct. you can go to the link in my signature to find out how to get bloods and a discount code
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Here is the link to the perfect PCT protocol: http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/

You can order everything you need for the PCT protocol from ag-guys.com, n2bm.com and sarms1.com.

Run the protocol exactly as it is laid out and your body will bounce back.
 
Unfortunately, no, I did not run any AAS. It was a purely Ostarine only cycle, and only 10 mg a day, so very low dose. I ran with HCgenerate 5 tabs a day. This is why I am so confused. And my Osta came from one of the sources listed as approved on this site... So I think it is Ostarine. Maybe my system is incredibly sensitive, or as others have said I could have a lot of Estrogen flowing. I will order my test kit so that I can test after my PCT.
 
Majikseb said:
Unfortunately, no, I did not run any AAS. It was a purely Ostarine only cycle, and only 10 mg a day, so very low dose. I ran with HCgenerate 5 tabs a day. This is why I am so confused. And my Osta came from one of the sources listed as approved on this site... So I think it is Ostarine. Maybe my system is incredibly sensitive, or as others have said I could have a lot of Estrogen flowing. I will order my test kit so that I can test after my PCT.
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its mostly in your head. ostarine is very slightly suppressive.

still any changes in hormones, even slight, can effect libido. but keep in mind other factors are in play
 
2 weeks with almost no erections and no morning wood, fog cloud head... I'm pretty sure it's not in my head. Obviously I'm gonna need to do bloods to figure out what's really going on but something clearly is, before the last 2 weeks I had an insatiable sex drive, very frequent erections, etc etc
 
There is no way that ostarine should have that affect on you, especially less than half the normal dose. You should literally have 0 suppression. You should actually have a test boost from e hcgenerate. My guess is something comp,Evelyn unrelated to supplements you are taking. I would stop taking the ostarine first off just to be safe. Get blood work done. Also, look at what else is going on in your life. Have you changed your diet? Any new medications? Blood work will ultimately tell. Please post it up after you are able to get it so we can properly end this thread.
 
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