Second cycle advice

[StateSide]

Looking for advice on second cycle. Any help is much appreciated!

1st cycle has been test c 300 mg/wk for 8 weeks and anavar 50 mg per day for the middle 6 weeks. Novaldex 12.5 ED. I understand this is short, wanted to see how my body would react. 37 yrs old, currently 185lbs and Steve and Dylan have estimated body fat at 12-13% based on photos.

The question is, would you recommend test paired with equipoise or deca for a second stack.

I wouldn’t want to add more than 10 lb of lean mass, and favor gains in strength over endurance at this point. Though, my sport of choice is more of an endurance kinda thing.

Would include aromasin, novaldex, proviron, and clomid in cycle and PCT....any ideas there are appreciated as well.

Thank you!

 

[dylangemelli]

clear as day you want eq... you are an endurance guy and want only around 10 lbs... NO BRAINER BROTHER!

1-16 test cyp 350 mg week
1-16 eq 600 mg week
1-18 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
15-18 dga post ct https://www.dganutrition.com/product/post-ct/

pct 19-24

clomid 50/50/50/25//25/25 

nolva 40/40/40/20/20/20 

aromasin 12.5 mg eod
ORGAN ST https://www.dganutrition.com/cycle-support/organ-st

mk-2866 25 mg day (ONLY 4 WEEKS)

gw-501516 20 mg day

 

[stevesmi]

EQ and deca are both mild compounds.. they are very slow builders and won't put on a ton of strength because they simply are not very androgenic..

i think wanting 10 pounds of lean mass off a 2nd cycle is beyond unrealistic. your goal should be 1-2 pounds of lean mass PER YEAR consistent. you need to dial down your goals and remember this is a marathon

think about it if you could put on 10 pounds of lean mass per cycle then after 10 cycles you would put on 100 pounds, you would be 285 pounds and competing for Mr olympia.

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

I would absolutely use EQ over deca since you mention being an endurance athlete. EQ will actually help endurance. I like keeping your test dose lower too.

 

[Mobster]

I'd do the same again except for the proper length

 

[StateSide]

clear as day you want eq... you are an endurance guy and want only around 10 lbs... NO BRAINER BROTHER!

Thank you for the response and the plan man. Really appreciate it.

i think wanting 10 pounds of lean mass off a 2nd cycle is beyond unrealistic. your goal should be 1-2 pounds of lean mass PER YEAR consistent. you need to dial down your goals and remember this is a marathon

think about it if you could put on 10 pounds of lean mass per cycle then after 10 cycles you would put on 100 pounds, you would be 285 pounds and competing for Mr olympia.

Definitely agree...my goal isn't 10 lbs, my concern is that i -might- add 10 lbs and don't want that. The locals talk about adding 10 lbs like it is nothing and I want to make sure i avoid that. Am 100% in it for the long haul, marathon it out.

I would absolutely use EQ over deca since you mention being an endurance athlete. EQ will actually help endurance. I like keeping your test dose lower too.

Thank you!

 

[dylangemelli]

Thank you for the response and the plan man. Really appreciate it.




Definitely agree...my goal isn't 10 lbs, my concern is that i -might- add 10 lbs and don't want that. The locals talk about adding 10 lbs like it is nothing and I want to make sure i avoid that. Am 100% in it for the long haul, marathon it out.




Thank you!

im happy to help bro

 

[muskate]

The only downside on EQ is that it raises hematocrit big time so make sure to give blood every couple months while on cycle.

 

[StateSide]

The only downside on EQ is that it raises hematocrit big time so make sure to give blood every couple months while on cycle.

Will do! Thank you for the help.

 

[dylangemelli]

if you donate about 8 weeks in and then after the cycle, thats plenty