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So I’m looking to start my first cycle and need good advice. I’m 6’2 At a solid 170lbs and I’m a right arm amputee. I also have a had time developing my righ pic due to no arm, will injecting in the right pic help out at all? What would be a great first 12 week cycle with anti gyno?
Gruntwerkz
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Well first off congratulations on moving forward and continuing your training regardless of arm loss, no excuses right?
A typical first cycle is testosterone only for 12 weeks, and a nice dose is about 350mg a week. Your AI (aromatose inhibitor) keeps your e2 in check avoiding sides like gyno. Blood work is the best way to determine how much AI you need but a good place to start is .5mg arimidex E2D or so, but you could need less or more.
Injection location doesn’t make that muscle group any larger, it’s absorbed into the blood stream regardless.
Did you read the perfect PCT sticky?
Thanks a lot bro, just looking to take my fitness career to next level. Ive been doing research but i fell like i have barley touch the tip of the iceberg but i do not know what PCT sticky is
Gruntwerkz
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https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/perfect-pct-simplified!-49252.html
This link provides the exact details on how to run your PCT and what you’ll need.
There is a lot of reading to do man, how old are you ?
About to be 30 this year
Gruntwerkz
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Okay cool just making sure you’re not too young for all this. If you can get blood work done before, during and after your cycle that’s your best bet. This way you know your baseline levels prior to starting, then mid cycle labs show you how your gears working, make sure your e2 isn’t too high, RBC isn’t too high, etc. Then post cycle labs after PCT shows how recovery went.
Are you in the US?
Chemically Enhanced
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I'd go for 500 mg of test per week, I didn't find sides on 500 mg anyhow troublesome, you'd be taking AI in any case.
And for a cycle of just test all you need for PCT is Nolva+ Clomid +AI
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And for a cycle of just test all you need for PCT is Nolva+ Clomid +AI
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Chemically Enhanced
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Get some IGF for site enhancement.
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Yes i am in the us
Gruntwerkz
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I honestly don’t get why guys go with 500mg so often, I feel like 350-400mg is perfectly acceptable for a first round to see how you feel.
sisir012
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Gruntwerkz
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There’s always time for more gear in the future right? 350mg is enough to be anabolic, if anything lower dose and draw your cycle to 14 weeks.
A few Questions, what kind of test should i take? Nolva+ Clomid+ AI is that oral like SARMS? and IGF is what exactly?
Sorry but i still learning and have a lot to go, just want to get the most information i can get before i start
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What is AI?
Gruntwerkz
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Clomid and Nolva are SERMS, they are used to kick your LH and FSH back up during PCT. you’re AI keeps e2 levels down, or estrogen simply. PCT is necessary to get your testosterone back up as the use of synthetic testosterone stops your own production.
SARMS are a whole different ball game really but yes they are taken orally.
Gruntwerkz
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AI = aromatose inhibitor, basically it stops estrogen levels from climbing. Testosterone aromatizes, this means coverts to estrogen in simple terms.
You seen some estrogen to be normal and healthy, low E can suck trust me.
You seen some estrogen to be normal and healthy, low E can suck trust me.
Chemically Enhanced
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Sorry, by test I mean testosterone. Yes nolva and clomid are SARMS and are used during the PCT to restart your natural testosterone production. DO NOT start your cycle until you have these on hands. AI is aromatize inhibitor, used during and post cycle to stop converting testosterone into estrogen, aromasin being the best choice of them all.
IGF is a peptide (insulin growth factor). It is produced naturally in our bodies but in a very small quantities. IGF-LR3 is the exact name of the peptide if you're going to get it, euro-peptides, the site sponsor carries it I believe.
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Gruntwerkz
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Nolva are not SARMS, they are SERMS. Huge difference let’s not confuse this guy.
Gruntwerkz
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Typo, Nolva AND clomid are not SARMS. Rather SERMS.
Maybe you had a typo on your end there chemical?
Chemically Enhanced
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Yes Seems, sorry, not sarms
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Chemically Enhanced
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Fck autocorrect,
Serms, sorry, not SARMS.
Estrogen receptor modulators, not androgen
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Okay I’m starting to make some sense of this lol, I’m going to take all the info and read up on it to get a better understanding and then ill let you know what i have learned. I was to do my first men’s physic comp and go from there and see how far i can go with it. I’d like to say that i have pretty good genetics and that i have put on good size without a good diet. Also during my PCT, will a test booster help?
Gruntwerkz
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The company need to build muscle sells a few nice test boosters but regardless of using them you still need the SERMS (Nolva & clomid) for a proper PCT.
N2BM is a sponsor here, never used the test booster stuff myself.
Is there a safe place where i can get all of this. Kind of been my main struggle, found a place for sis labs and other know products
I feel like your best bet would be to go to source talk, read what other people are talking about and take your pick. PSL seems like the go to for a lot of people here
Chemically Enhanced
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If you're in US, the site sponsor PSL carries all of it and a lot of folks here using their products and have only good things to say. If you're gonna get IGF, the euro-peptides has it. There are big banners on top of every page if you're browsing from a computer.
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sisir012
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Some guys want to take more to produce a fast result and we know that it's not happening my 1st cycle was just 250mg test e and trust I got very decent result
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This might seem like a dumb question but 250mg would be 0.25ml in a syringe right?
sisir012
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Chemically Enhanced
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Question asked is not a dumb question.
If your Test has a concentration 250mg/ml (concentration is always stated on the vial or amp), then it is 1 ml in a syringe.
500mg would be 2 ml.
timsmith125
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testosterone will be a good choice for first cycle
Forget injecting into the pec.
At 6'2" and 170lbs have you reached your natural potential, Onearmwonder?
Thanks everyone for the post, Ive gained so much info within the last 24hr and it feels great even though I haven’t even started yet but you all will know who the one arm bodybuilder will lol, I’m one of a kind
E32038
EVO V.I.P.
Hey onearm, I need to say bro...I commend you. I know you don't need any praise or kudos from some online schmuck like me, but dude I am thoroughly impressed that you are not letting this impede your training. If there is anything you need man, hit me up. I would absolutely love to help you out bro! I know a good handful of my Marine brothers who lost limbs and they gave up. I know equally a handful that didn't. I don't know your situation, if you were born that way or lost it somehow, but I'm at the VA once a month to help some of these guys out. I wish to god they all had your attitude, they don't understand that they can do it.
To be honest i have not reached my true natty potential yet and what i have gained has been from hardcore workouts and reaseach plus I’m 170lbs with about 9 to 11% body fat, my only weak game is my diet and I’ve tried to stay at 200-230g of protein with 50-60g of crabs and 50g of fat not counting calories
Thank you so much E32038, It has been 5 years since i have lost my arm and i have stayed strong since while over coming so much in those years and it has been great. I really want to do motivational speaking but just don’t know where to start. I have choosen a fitness career to help people wheather it may be a physical or mental condition because i know my purpose in live to help people no matter what.
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Thank you Bro i really appreciate it
E32038
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Were you in the service? I could help you break into motivational speaking if you were. If you weren't, I can't do much cause believe me these guys just don't trust those who didn't serve and have gone through similar experiences.
"...another individual making sure to learn what's needed before making a purchase!!"
Will wonders ever cease?
This is what I recommend for a first cycle
weeks 1 - 10
testosteorne 500mg/week
aromasin 10mg EOD
After the cycle run the perfect PCT - https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/perfect-pct-simplified!-49252.html
Unfortunately i did not serve but i still want to reach out to those who need help on top on any physical recovery, i plan on doing YouTube videos plus a lot more but if there is anything we could collaborate on please me know, I’m open to anything
E32038
EVO V.I.P.
Then do this man: contact your local VA and ask for the VA Patient Advocate. Explain the situation and your intent and see what they say. Maybe even have a few YouTube vids under your belt so you can show them. Most of these guys are cool as shit and just want what is best for the Veteran. I think if you come across as legit and genuine then they will be more likely to "accept you" Disgruntled, war-torn vets are a rough group bro, but once you get through to them, you're golden. Other Vets already have an in with these guys but I bet you could pull it off.
So i know this question isn’t that simple to answer but to get where you are where do i begin? I have somewhat of start I believe but i what to be huge in the first industry and looking to I do my first men’s physique comp. just looking for some guidance and advice. Any help would be gratefully
E32038
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I will leave this to those that have competed (Steve, Trevor, etc...). I won’t begin to even pretend to know how to break into a competition. Especially at my age. Lol
How long should i run the PCT for?
Do i take IGF with my test or with my PCT? What is the does on that?
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Can i get Clomid and Nolva through our sponsor sites?
Gruntwerkz
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PSL sells your SERMS too, pretty much anything you need for a cycle or pct they got.
Gruntwerkz
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You don’t need the IGF peptide, your IGF levels will be up alone from the high dosage of testosterone.
Chemically Enhanced
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For just a cycle of Test I'd run PCT for 4 weeks, taking 40mg of nolva and 50mg of clomid for the first 2 weeks, then half of that for the next 2 weeks.
Yes you can get everything we discussed in this topic from the site sponsors, look for euro-pharmacies banners on top of the page, purity source labs and euro-peptides.
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As per his opening post, he mentioned that due to his missing arm, his right pec muscle is under-developed, I totally understand why he wants to give it an extra "boost".
Were you to reach your full natural potential prior to your use of AAS, you would very likely achieve better results once you begin to use AAS simply because you would have begun with a larger mass. I don't mean to discourge you, but 6'2" and 170lbs suggests that you are rather skinny. And steroids do nothing for those who are skinny.
Chemically Enhanced
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Roids did a lot to me and I was somewhat skinny when I started 10 years ago. I was @175 and 5-11
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Trust me i not skinny by any means, I will get compliments all the time for my sizes when I’m at the gym to due the fact of how much size i put on with just one arm. I use to be skinny with 2 arms back in the day lol. My body keeps growing but the weight stays the same. When i got serious about the gym i put on 20lbs in 3 months of just muscles and now this year i lost 10lbs but I’m bigger then ever.
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