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Sus, eq, hgh and primo advice wanted

Still got 1 week of primo going to bump it up a bit and use the remaining of what I have left. Then start osta cardarine and stay on my mk677

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Riceburner said:
Still got 1 week of primo going to bump it up a bit and use the remaining of what I have left. Then start osta cardarine and stay on my mk677

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yes but you need hcgenerate too on pct!
 
Riceburner said:
I have n2 gen es also like I said previously I only have one bottle 150 tabs of es. I can't take 5 everyday like it says on perfect pct.. how many as a minimum will be ok?

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Just divide the 150 by the number of days that your PCT will last, and use them. Ideally you want to use 5, but given your situation, there is not much that can be done.
 
Riceburner said:
I have n2 gen es also like I said previously I only have one bottle 150 tabs of es. I can't take 5 everyday like it says on perfect pct.. how many as a minimum will be ok?

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I would just use the hcgenerate ES the first 30 days of your PCT at the recommended dosage. 5 capsules/day. That way you sort of 'kick start' your natural testosterone production at the start of your PCT.
 
muskate said:
I would just use the hcgenerate ES the first 30 days of your PCT at the recommended dosage. 5 capsules/day. That way you sort of 'kick start' your natural testosterone production at the start of your PCT.
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Ok cheers for that advice 🖒

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muskate said:
I would just use the hcgenerate ES the first 30 days of your PCT at the recommended dosage. 5 capsules/day. That way you sort of 'kick start' your natural testosterone production at the start of your PCT.
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This is the way I would do it as well. Run the full dose so you get the most out of it instead of lessening the effects with a lower dose.
 
Masonic Bodybuilder said:
This is the way I would do it as well. Run the full dose so you get the most out of it instead of lessening the effects with a lower dose.
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Cheers boys will do it like this when I start pct. People say that primo on it's own without test kills ya sex drive but I'm fine..... provironm must be working well then aye.

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Just had blood pressure checked out of curiosity and it was 158/76 roughly then checked it again and it went higher to 163. I do suffer from anxiety a little and I did have a coffee about 4 hrs ago no other stimulants . Don't know if I should worry about it or not

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If i came off my sus and eq at end week8 and went onto primo I'm confused with how pct should roll out the only androgen I'm ya king since I stopped sus is provironum at 75mg ed. It says sus 18 days after last ink start pct and primo 14 days after last inj what's the go in this situation.

Kind regards.

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Riceburner said:
If i came off my sus and eq at end week8 and went onto primo I'm confused with how pct should roll out the only androgen I'm ya king since I stopped sus is provironum at 75mg ed. It says sus 18 days after last ink start pct and primo 14 days after last inj what's the go in this situation.

Kind regards.

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Did I get it right - you are going to use primobolan for additional two weeks after stopping your sustanon? If so, you can start your PCT one week after your last primo injection. I would do the perfect PCT protocol in order to ensure proper and full recovery - https://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/
 
I am not sure I understand the exact question here. For the blood pressure, do not be overly concerned with that. It will be different at different times. Ideally you are sitting still for 10 minutes right before taking it and have not eaten in the last 30 minutes. I would keep an eye on it that it doesn't go up though.

WIth EQ why would you stop it after 8 weeks? EQ should be run 16 weeks or so since the ester is extremely long.

The PCT I always recommend is the Perfect PCT - https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/perfect-pct-simplified!-49252.html
 
Riceburner said:
If i came off my sus and eq at end week8 and went onto primo I'm confused with how pct should roll out the only androgen I'm ya king since I stopped sus is provironum at 75mg ed. It says sus 18 days after last ink start pct and primo 14 days after last inj what's the go in this situation.

Kind regards.

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You want to wait until you have stopped all steroids before starting your PCT. Any steroid is going to suppress natural testosterone production so the PCT will not work if you are using steroids.

After you finish your cycle, then run the perfect PCT protocol -> https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/perfect-pct-simplified!-49252.html
 
Thanks guys so I had my last shot in 2 weeks will start pct or in 1 week ? Been on primo for nearly 6 weeks without sus and eq just provironm

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Riceburner said:
Thanks guys so I had my last shot in 2 weeks will start pct or in 1 week ? Been on primo for nearly 6 weeks without sus and eq just provironm

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read a little bit about how steroid esters work. i feel like you are making this complicated
 
Guys where a good source for sarms in the UK... I'm thinking it's easier to get it to me here while I'm on holls in Sicily (Italy)



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I couldn't source any nolva in time I only have Clomid so my question is should I up dosage from 50mg ED for the first 2 weeks?



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Riceburner said:
Guys where a good source for sarms in the UK... I'm thinking it's easier to get it to me here while I'm on holls in Sicily (Italy)



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Sarms1 is the way to go - they will get it delivered to you with no problems. They deliver to me in Germany in under a week, and I never had any problems with that.

Riceburner said:
I couldn't source any nolva in time I only have Clomid so my question is should I up dosage from 50mg ED for the first 2 weeks?

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Nolva and clomid are a bit different compounds, so you can not make it up for the absence of nolva just by increasing the clomid dosage. So don't do so, and run clomid according to the plan. For the next time it will be a lesson to you that you should have all your gear and PCT before starting the cycle, so you can avoid this type of situations when you need a compounds, and you can't get a hold of it.
 
Been noticing on my Samsung watch my heart rate been recording up to 230bpm. I'm working out in very hot environment with no air con should I be worried seeing this high bpm???

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Riceburner said:
Been noticing on my Samsung watch my heart rate been recording up to 230bpm. I'm working out in very hot environment with no air con should I be worried seeing this high bpm???

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to determine max heart rate you take 220 and subtract age to that. that is merely an average of the entire population though

assuming your heart rate watch is accurate this could mean you have poor cardio output or it could be nothing.. there are a lot of components in play .. when i was an endurance athlete ( was your age too) the highest i would hit was 180 area. but every person is different.. YOUR max heart rate is YOUR max heart rate. Alab Webb is one of the best triathletes ever and has a max HRT of 240 :)
 
stevesmi said:
to determine max heart rate you take 220 and subtract age to that. that is merely an average of the entire population though

assuming your heart rate watch is accurate this could mean you have poor cardio output or it could be nothing.. there are a lot of components in play .. when i was an endurance athlete ( was your age too) the highest i would hit was 180 area. but every person is different.. YOUR max heart rate is YOUR max heart rate. Alab Webb is one of the best triathletes ever and has a max HRT of 240 :)
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Thanks for ya input . Yeah sometimes it only goes 180 and some other days higher weird I don't take any pre workouts. Just ostarine cardarine and mk677. And also started my pct

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Riceburner said:
Thanks for ya input . Yeah sometimes it only goes 180 and some other days higher weird I don't take any pre workouts. Just ostarine cardarine and mk677. And also started my pct

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Wrist heart rate monitors are really inaccurate. I wouldn't give the reading from them much merit.

Next time you feel your heart rate going up, manually take your heart rate on your wrist. It'll give you a much more accurate number.
 
Hey guys so I got my blood pressure checked today and it's still high 151/74 I'm not taking anything for the last 3 weeks 3 more days left of my pct.. My doc reckons I have mild hypertension pretty worries as to what's going on

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Riceburner said:
Hey guys so I got my blood pressure checked today and it's still high 151/74 I'm not taking anything for the last 3 weeks 3 more days left of my pct.. My doc reckons I have mild hypertension pretty worries as to what's going on

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try giving blood. relaxing.. do yoga.

you just came off steroids man. people underrate the effects steroids have on the heart. in the future shorten your cycles and run less dosages
 
Your blood pressure will slowly regulate itself and balance.

Like @stevesmi said - your just came off a pretty aggressive cycle. It'll take time for your body to transition into more regular blood pressure patterns.

Don't take a blood pressure medication unless it's absolutely necessary. I would try a natural supplement like n2guard from n2bm.com first. If that doesn't fix your blood pressure in a couple months, then I would ask your doctor for a BP medication.
 
Just had my test checked after pct and I'm sitting at 4 it's pretty low and should it of climbed up higher than that already ?

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How much time has passed since the PCT? Usually, it takes like 4 weeks to get fully recovered, even after a PCT.
 
Riceburner said:
I done test the week after pct

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You always want to wait at least 1 month after your PCT to get the blood work done. Otherwise the PCT drugs will still be active in your body and give the blood work a false reading.
 
Steve nailed it. When you run SERMs and get blood work done with them in your system, your test levels should falsely be higher on the test than they really are. That is why you always wait at least 3-4 weeks after PCT for those SERMs to clear out of your system. Also, post up the units of measure for your test levels and maybe the rest of the blood work. We would really want to see LH, FSH, etc.
 
Thanks guys doc has advised to take bloods in another 5-6 weeks and see where my levels are at then

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I'm the meantime is there anything I can use to boost natural test up. I Wil get the last blood results and post up

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