Approved Log Test Cycle Training Log

[0riginalrelica]

This is my first log on here, brand new to the forum. If you guys need more info just let me know. Tried to keep it short but it’s still a lot lol. Trying to optimize for a couple years now, but it's been difficult with having 8 surgeries in the past 6 years. Last year I had to move back home and live with my parents for support, as daily living became to strenuous. This way I could focus on rehabilitation.


Stats: 40 years old 5’9”180 lbs
Goal is to rebuild strength and mobility after 15 years of messed up feet (dirt bike crash shattered both heels, 9 surgeries, fused subtalar joints x2, 4.5 years on disability). Want to actually do things in life again while looking decent.


Current Regimen

• Just pinned 50mg Taro Test Cyp at the pharmacy today (doc wrote 50mg every 4 weeks… “moderate dose” lmao, almost fell out of my seat)
• Switching to GPE T400 for ~250mg/week base pinning EOD (~0.18ml)
• Low dose Deca ~100mg/week (therapeutic)
• Global Pharma Anavar 20mg/day (on day 4-5)
• Just dropped the Pharma Tech Masteron
• Started Revive MD Liver (TUDCA/NAC)

Bloods (March vs April) ALT: 79 → 114 (high)Hematocrit: 0.51 → 0.53 (high)Hemoglobin: 172 → 178Creatinine: 127 → 118 (top end)Total Test: <7.4 nmol/L (previous Pharma Tech was bunk)E2: <30 pmol/L (crashed)


Symptoms right now: Extreme bone-deep fatigue, gassed after one set at the gym, super dry paper-like skin, brutal brain fog (can’t put sentences together, lose my train of thought).


Training: 3-4x week lifting (injuries holding me back right now), trying to get stronger without blowing up. I mainly get to the gym and sit down on the equipment without having to be on my feet much.


Diet: I try to keep my protein high, but it's difficult because I'm at the mercy of my mothers cooking. She's a great cook! But that means tracking my macros is very difficult without bothering my mom in the kitchen.


Supplements: Multivitamin (Kirkland), Omega 3, Vitamin D, Creatine, Magnesium, etc. Just added the Revive Liver support.


Goals: Fix the fatigue and brain fog, get my strength and mobility back, drop a bit more body fat while staying around the same weight. Safety and longevity first.


Will update this log regularly with pins, how I feel, bloods, etc.

 

[LevButlerov]

This is my first log on here, brand new to the forum. If you guys need more info just let me know. Tried to keep it short but it’s still a lot lol. Trying to optimize for a couple years now, but it's been difficult with having 8 surgeries in the past 6 years. Last year I had to move back home and live with my parents for support, as daily living became to strenuous. This way I could focus on rehabilitation.


Stats: 40 years old 5’9”180 lbs
Goal is to rebuild strength and mobility after 15 years of messed up feet (dirt bike crash shattered both heels, 9 surgeries, fused subtalar joints x2, 4.5 years on disability). Want to actually do things in life again while looking decent.


Current Regimen

• Just pinned 50mg Taro Test Cyp at the pharmacy today (doc wrote 50mg every 4 weeks… “moderate dose” lmao, almost fell out of my seat)
• Switching to GPE T400 for ~250mg/week base pinning EOD (~0.18ml)
• Low dose Deca ~100mg/week (therapeutic)
• Global Pharma Anavar 20mg/day (on day 4-5)
• Just dropped the Pharma Tech Masteron
• Started Revive MD Liver (TUDCA/NAC)

Bloods (March vs April) ALT: 79 → 114 (high)Hematocrit: 0.51 → 0.53 (high)Hemoglobin: 172 → 178Creatinine: 127 → 118 (top end)Total Test: <7.4 nmol/L (previous Pharma Tech was bunk)E2: <30 pmol/L (crashed)


Symptoms right now: Extreme bone-deep fatigue, gassed after one set at the gym, super dry paper-like skin, brutal brain fog (can’t put sentences together, lose my train of thought).


Training: 3-4x week lifting (injuries holding me back right now), trying to get stronger without blowing up. I mainly get to the gym and sit down on the equipment without having to be on my feet much.


Diet: I try to keep my protein high, but it's difficult because I'm at the mercy of my mothers cooking. She's a great cook! But that means tracking my macros is very difficult without bothering my mom in the kitchen.


Supplements: Multivitamin (Kirkland), Omega 3, Vitamin D, Creatine, Magnesium, etc. Just added the Revive Liver support.


Goals: Fix the fatigue and brain fog, get my strength and mobility back, drop a bit more body fat while staying around the same weight. Safety and longevity first.


Will update this log regularly with pins, how I feel, bloods, etc.

welcome fully to the EVO family @0riginalrelica happy to see you share, you look really good in the pics, strong arms, tight waist, good abs!

Bloods
please share your bloods for this cycle and before, the actual paper just blur personal info

Gear cycle
please share gear pics of what you plan to use so we know you have the right vials

E2 drop
Thats normal when you have low e2, please see my bloods comment above
when was your last ai dose? did you take any ais? your e2 that level is like ai working

Please share more day to day information with us.

Diet, Training, Cardio
Diet, please share foods and meals and when you eat them, macros would be good
Training, please share actual exercises reps sets and weights, as you go especially get stronger
cardio how much do you do? when etc
If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Or use an app like myfitness pal or cronometer. Very easy.

supplements
Are you taking high doses Vitamin C?
how much creatine do you use ed?
what digestive supps you use?
digestive enzymes?
multis?
probiotics?
psyllium husk?

are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/evolutionary-bodybuilding-radio/id1798623410
https://open.spotify.com/show/53q1RFTgG4h6TQHsJ4xY6Z

did you download our eBooks?
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[Grumpy]

Welcome to evo great start to the log will be following along
Looking great definitely good starting position to stack on some muscle

 

[Kopite67]

This is my first log on here, brand new to the forum. If you guys need more info just let me know. Tried to keep it short but it’s still a lot lol. Trying to optimize for a couple years now, but it's been difficult with having 8 surgeries in the past 6 years. Last year I had to move back home and live with my parents for support, as daily living became to strenuous. This way I could focus on rehabilitation.


Stats: 40 years old 5’9”180 lbs
Goal is to rebuild strength and mobility after 15 years of messed up feet (dirt bike crash shattered both heels, 9 surgeries, fused subtalar joints x2, 4.5 years on disability). Want to actually do things in life again while looking decent.


Current Regimen

• Just pinned 50mg Taro Test Cyp at the pharmacy today (doc wrote 50mg every 4 weeks… “moderate dose” lmao, almost fell out of my seat)
• Switching to GPE T400 for ~250mg/week base pinning EOD (~0.18ml)
• Low dose Deca ~100mg/week (therapeutic)
• Global Pharma Anavar 20mg/day (on day 4-5)
• Just dropped the Pharma Tech Masteron
• Started Revive MD Liver (TUDCA/NAC)

Bloods (March vs April) ALT: 79 → 114 (high)Hematocrit: 0.51 → 0.53 (high)Hemoglobin: 172 → 178Creatinine: 127 → 118 (top end)Total Test: <7.4 nmol/L (previous Pharma Tech was bunk)E2: <30 pmol/L (crashed)


Symptoms right now: Extreme bone-deep fatigue, gassed after one set at the gym, super dry paper-like skin, brutal brain fog (can’t put sentences together, lose my train of thought).


Training: 3-4x week lifting (injuries holding me back right now), trying to get stronger without blowing up. I mainly get to the gym and sit down on the equipment without having to be on my feet much.


Diet: I try to keep my protein high, but it's difficult because I'm at the mercy of my mothers cooking. She's a great cook! But that means tracking my macros is very difficult without bothering my mom in the kitchen.


Supplements: Multivitamin (Kirkland), Omega 3, Vitamin D, Creatine, Magnesium, etc. Just added the Revive Liver support.


Goals: Fix the fatigue and brain fog, get my strength and mobility back, drop a bit more body fat while staying around the same weight. Safety and longevity first.


Will update this log regularly with pins, how I feel, bloods, etc.

Solid start to logging on Evo brother. I am sure with the wealth of knowledge we have here in the Evo Family we can help you get things going in the right direction. So welcome and I look forward o following your journey

 

[stevesmi]

This is my first log on here, brand new to the forum. If you guys need more info just let me know. Tried to keep it short but it’s still a lot lol. Trying to optimize for a couple years now, but it's been difficult with having 8 surgeries in the past 6 years. Last year I had to move back home and live with my parents for support, as daily living became to strenuous. This way I could focus on rehabilitation.


Stats: 40 years old 5’9”180 lbs
Goal is to rebuild strength and mobility after 15 years of messed up feet (dirt bike crash shattered both heels, 9 surgeries, fused subtalar joints x2, 4.5 years on disability). Want to actually do things in life again while looking decent.


Current Regimen

• Just pinned 50mg Taro Test Cyp at the pharmacy today (doc wrote 50mg every 4 weeks… “moderate dose” lmao, almost fell out of my seat)
• Switching to GPE T400 for ~250mg/week base pinning EOD (~0.18ml)
• Low dose Deca ~100mg/week (therapeutic)
• Global Pharma Anavar 20mg/day (on day 4-5)
• Just dropped the Pharma Tech Masteron
• Started Revive MD Liver (TUDCA/NAC)

Bloods (March vs April) ALT: 79 → 114 (high)Hematocrit: 0.51 → 0.53 (high)Hemoglobin: 172 → 178Creatinine: 127 → 118 (top end)Total Test: <7.4 nmol/L (previous Pharma Tech was bunk)E2: <30 pmol/L (crashed)


Symptoms right now: Extreme bone-deep fatigue, gassed after one set at the gym, super dry paper-like skin, brutal brain fog (can’t put sentences together, lose my train of thought).


Training: 3-4x week lifting (injuries holding me back right now), trying to get stronger without blowing up. I mainly get to the gym and sit down on the equipment without having to be on my feet much.


Diet: I try to keep my protein high, but it's difficult because I'm at the mercy of my mothers cooking. She's a great cook! But that means tracking my macros is very difficult without bothering my mom in the kitchen.


Supplements: Multivitamin (Kirkland), Omega 3, Vitamin D, Creatine, Magnesium, etc. Just added the Revive Liver support.


Goals: Fix the fatigue and brain fog, get my strength and mobility back, drop a bit more body fat while staying around the same weight. Safety and longevity first.


Will update this log regularly with pins, how I feel, bloods, etc.

@0riginalrelica this is going to be a fun one to follow. I think you have an excellent base to work with. Now from here it's all about consistency.

 

[HarleyGuy]

This is my first log on here, brand new to the forum. If you guys need more info just let me know. Tried to keep it short but it’s still a lot lol. Trying to optimize for a couple years now, but it's been difficult with having 8 surgeries in the past 6 years. Last year I had to move back home and live with my parents for support, as daily living became to strenuous. This way I could focus on rehabilitation.


Stats: 40 years old 5’9”180 lbs
Goal is to rebuild strength and mobility after 15 years of messed up feet (dirt bike crash shattered both heels, 9 surgeries, fused subtalar joints x2, 4.5 years on disability). Want to actually do things in life again while looking decent.


Current Regimen

• Just pinned 50mg Taro Test Cyp at the pharmacy today (doc wrote 50mg every 4 weeks… “moderate dose” lmao, almost fell out of my seat)
• Switching to GPE T400 for ~250mg/week base pinning EOD (~0.18ml)
• Low dose Deca ~100mg/week (therapeutic)
• Global Pharma Anavar 20mg/day (on day 4-5)
• Just dropped the Pharma Tech Masteron
• Started Revive MD Liver (TUDCA/NAC)

Bloods (March vs April) ALT: 79 → 114 (high)Hematocrit: 0.51 → 0.53 (high)Hemoglobin: 172 → 178Creatinine: 127 → 118 (top end)Total Test: <7.4 nmol/L (previous Pharma Tech was bunk)E2: <30 pmol/L (crashed)


Symptoms right now: Extreme bone-deep fatigue, gassed after one set at the gym, super dry paper-like skin, brutal brain fog (can’t put sentences together, lose my train of thought).


Training: 3-4x week lifting (injuries holding me back right now), trying to get stronger without blowing up. I mainly get to the gym and sit down on the equipment without having to be on my feet much.


Diet: I try to keep my protein high, but it's difficult because I'm at the mercy of my mothers cooking. She's a great cook! But that means tracking my macros is very difficult without bothering my mom in the kitchen.


Supplements: Multivitamin (Kirkland), Omega 3, Vitamin D, Creatine, Magnesium, etc. Just added the Revive Liver support.


Goals: Fix the fatigue and brain fog, get my strength and mobility back, drop a bit more body fat while staying around the same weight. Safety and longevity first.


Will update this log regularly with pins, how I feel, bloods, etc.

Welcome to EVO logging brother I'm happy to see this up!

Last year I had to move back home and live with my parents for support, as daily living became to strenuous.

Good for you and good for your folks for supporting you when you need it. I've done this myself for 1.5 years when I needed help and it was the best decision at the time!

Want to actually do things in life again while looking decent.

We will get you there brother, this is just the start

Extreme bone-deep fatigue, gassed after one set at the gym, super dry paper-like skin, brutal brain fog (can’t put sentences together, lose my train of thought).

This sounds hormonal to me. Plan to do bloodwork again in 4-6 weeks and be very detailed with your dosages and pin frequency

Fix the fatigue and brain fog, get my strength and mobility back, drop a bit more body fat while staying around the same weight. Safety and longevity first.

We got your back for this and we will get you there bro. Safety and longevity always first.

Will update this log regularly with pins, how I feel, bloods, etc.

As well as diet and exercise please, very important.

We got your back brother thanks for joining the EVO family!

 

[waggat]

This is my first log on here, brand new to the forum. If you guys need more info just let me know. Tried to keep it short but it’s still a lot lol. Trying to optimize for a couple years now, but it's been difficult with having 8 surgeries in the past 6 years. Last year I had to move back home and live with my parents for support, as daily living became to strenuous. This way I could focus on rehabilitation.


Stats: 40 years old 5’9”180 lbs
Goal is to rebuild strength and mobility after 15 years of messed up feet (dirt bike crash shattered both heels, 9 surgeries, fused subtalar joints x2, 4.5 years on disability). Want to actually do things in life again while looking decent.


Current Regimen

• Just pinned 50mg Taro Test Cyp at the pharmacy today (doc wrote 50mg every 4 weeks… “moderate dose” lmao, almost fell out of my seat)
• Switching to GPE T400 for ~250mg/week base pinning EOD (~0.18ml)
• Low dose Deca ~100mg/week (therapeutic)
• Global Pharma Anavar 20mg/day (on day 4-5)
• Just dropped the Pharma Tech Masteron
• Started Revive MD Liver (TUDCA/NAC)

Bloods (March vs April) ALT: 79 → 114 (high)Hematocrit: 0.51 → 0.53 (high)Hemoglobin: 172 → 178Creatinine: 127 → 118 (top end)Total Test: <7.4 nmol/L (previous Pharma Tech was bunk)E2: <30 pmol/L (crashed)


Symptoms right now: Extreme bone-deep fatigue, gassed after one set at the gym, super dry paper-like skin, brutal brain fog (can’t put sentences together, lose my train of thought).


Training: 3-4x week lifting (injuries holding me back right now), trying to get stronger without blowing up. I mainly get to the gym and sit down on the equipment without having to be on my feet much.


Diet: I try to keep my protein high, but it's difficult because I'm at the mercy of my mothers cooking. She's a great cook! But that means tracking my macros is very difficult without bothering my mom in the kitchen.


Supplements: Multivitamin (Kirkland), Omega 3, Vitamin D, Creatine, Magnesium, etc. Just added the Revive Liver support.


Goals: Fix the fatigue and brain fog, get my strength and mobility back, drop a bit more body fat while staying around the same weight. Safety and longevity first.


Will update this log regularly with pins, how I feel, bloods, etc.

Hey mate, nice first log post.

You have a really good starting physique. Good shape and pretty lean.

The main thing will be to get your trt dialled in. Switching to more frequent injections will make a massive difference.

I think you need to work out a way to track your food better as well.

Can you share some typical workouts?

 

[Mobster]

Well done on getting past the injuries

 

[2Thick]

This is my first log on here, brand new to the forum. If you guys need more info just let me know. Tried to keep it short but it’s still a lot lol. Trying to optimize for a couple years now, but it's been difficult with having 8 surgeries in the past 6 years. Last year I had to move back home and live with my parents for support, as daily living became to strenuous. This way I could focus on rehabilitation.


Stats: 40 years old 5’9”180 lbs
Goal is to rebuild strength and mobility after 15 years of messed up feet (dirt bike crash shattered both heels, 9 surgeries, fused subtalar joints x2, 4.5 years on disability). Want to actually do things in life again while looking decent.


Current Regimen

• Just pinned 50mg Taro Test Cyp at the pharmacy today (doc wrote 50mg every 4 weeks… “moderate dose” lmao, almost fell out of my seat)
• Switching to GPE T400 for ~250mg/week base pinning EOD (~0.18ml)
• Low dose Deca ~100mg/week (therapeutic)
• Global Pharma Anavar 20mg/day (on day 4-5)
• Just dropped the Pharma Tech Masteron
• Started Revive MD Liver (TUDCA/NAC)

Bloods (March vs April) ALT: 79 → 114 (high)Hematocrit: 0.51 → 0.53 (high)Hemoglobin: 172 → 178Creatinine: 127 → 118 (top end)Total Test: <7.4 nmol/L (previous Pharma Tech was bunk)E2: <30 pmol/L (crashed)


Symptoms right now: Extreme bone-deep fatigue, gassed after one set at the gym, super dry paper-like skin, brutal brain fog (can’t put sentences together, lose my train of thought).


Training: 3-4x week lifting (injuries holding me back right now), trying to get stronger without blowing up. I mainly get to the gym and sit down on the equipment without having to be on my feet much.


Diet: I try to keep my protein high, but it's difficult because I'm at the mercy of my mothers cooking. She's a great cook! But that means tracking my macros is very difficult without bothering my mom in the kitchen.


Supplements: Multivitamin (Kirkland), Omega 3, Vitamin D, Creatine, Magnesium, etc. Just added the Revive Liver support.


Goals: Fix the fatigue and brain fog, get my strength and mobility back, drop a bit more body fat while staying around the same weight. Safety and longevity first.


Will update this log regularly with pins, how I feel, bloods, etc.

Fatigue is never fun. Hopefully you can dial in what the issue is. Can be a lot of things happening. @0riginalrelica

 

[Ulter]

This is my first log on here, brand new to the forum. If you guys need more info just let me know. Tried to keep it short but it’s still a lot lol. Trying to optimize for a couple years now, but it's been difficult with having 8 surgeries in the past 6 years. Last year I had to move back home and live with my parents for support, as daily living became to strenuous. This way I could focus on rehabilitation.


Stats: 40 years old 5’9”180 lbs
Goal is to rebuild strength and mobility after 15 years of messed up feet (dirt bike crash shattered both heels, 9 surgeries, fused subtalar joints x2, 4.5 years on disability). Want to actually do things in life again while looking decent.


Current Regimen

• Just pinned 50mg Taro Test Cyp at the pharmacy today (doc wrote 50mg every 4 weeks… “moderate dose” lmao, almost fell out of my seat)
• Switching to GPE T400 for ~250mg/week base pinning EOD (~0.18ml)
• Low dose Deca ~100mg/week (therapeutic)
• Global Pharma Anavar 20mg/day (on day 4-5)
• Just dropped the Pharma Tech Masteron
• Started Revive MD Liver (TUDCA/NAC)

Bloods (March vs April) ALT: 79 → 114 (high)Hematocrit: 0.51 → 0.53 (high)Hemoglobin: 172 → 178Creatinine: 127 → 118 (top end)Total Test: <7.4 nmol/L (previous Pharma Tech was bunk)E2: <30 pmol/L (crashed)


Symptoms right now: Extreme bone-deep fatigue, gassed after one set at the gym, super dry paper-like skin, brutal brain fog (can’t put sentences together, lose my train of thought).


Training: 3-4x week lifting (injuries holding me back right now), trying to get stronger without blowing up. I mainly get to the gym and sit down on the equipment without having to be on my feet much.


Diet: I try to keep my protein high, but it's difficult because I'm at the mercy of my mothers cooking. She's a great cook! But that means tracking my macros is very difficult without bothering my mom in the kitchen.


Supplements: Multivitamin (Kirkland), Omega 3, Vitamin D, Creatine, Magnesium, etc. Just added the Revive Liver support.


Goals: Fix the fatigue and brain fog, get my strength and mobility back, drop a bit more body fat while staying around the same weight. Safety and longevity first.


Will update this log regularly with pins, how I feel, bloods, etc.

I like how you structure this log. @0riginalrelica you kind of be honest about each thing and what you're trying to work on.

 

[ROIDDERS]

This is my first log on here, brand new to the forum. If you guys need more info just let me know. Tried to keep it short but it’s still a lot lol. Trying to optimize for a couple years now, but it's been difficult with having 8 surgeries in the past 6 years. Last year I had to move back home and live with my parents for support, as daily living became to strenuous. This way I could focus on rehabilitation.


Stats: 40 years old 5’9”180 lbs
Goal is to rebuild strength and mobility after 15 years of messed up feet (dirt bike crash shattered both heels, 9 surgeries, fused subtalar joints x2, 4.5 years on disability). Want to actually do things in life again while looking decent.


Current Regimen

• Just pinned 50mg Taro Test Cyp at the pharmacy today (doc wrote 50mg every 4 weeks… “moderate dose” lmao, almost fell out of my seat)
• Switching to GPE T400 for ~250mg/week base pinning EOD (~0.18ml)
• Low dose Deca ~100mg/week (therapeutic)
• Global Pharma Anavar 20mg/day (on day 4-5)
• Just dropped the Pharma Tech Masteron
• Started Revive MD Liver (TUDCA/NAC)

Bloods (March vs April) ALT: 79 → 114 (high)Hematocrit: 0.51 → 0.53 (high)Hemoglobin: 172 → 178Creatinine: 127 → 118 (top end)Total Test: <7.4 nmol/L (previous Pharma Tech was bunk)E2: <30 pmol/L (crashed)


Symptoms right now: Extreme bone-deep fatigue, gassed after one set at the gym, super dry paper-like skin, brutal brain fog (can’t put sentences together, lose my train of thought).


Training: 3-4x week lifting (injuries holding me back right now), trying to get stronger without blowing up. I mainly get to the gym and sit down on the equipment without having to be on my feet much.


Diet: I try to keep my protein high, but it's difficult because I'm at the mercy of my mothers cooking. She's a great cook! But that means tracking my macros is very difficult without bothering my mom in the kitchen.


Supplements: Multivitamin (Kirkland), Omega 3, Vitamin D, Creatine, Magnesium, etc. Just added the Revive Liver support.


Goals: Fix the fatigue and brain fog, get my strength and mobility back, drop a bit more body fat while staying around the same weight. Safety and longevity first.


Will update this log regularly with pins, how I feel, bloods, etc.

@0riginalrelica for all the stuff that you've been through and the tough situations with feeling fatigued, you sure have a good body. I can't wait to see, once you get things balanced out, what you're capable of.

 

[ceo]

This is my first log on here, brand new to the forum. If you guys need more info just let me know. Tried to keep it short but it’s still a lot lol. Trying to optimize for a couple years now, but it's been difficult with having 8 surgeries in the past 6 years. Last year I had to move back home and live with my parents for support, as daily living became to strenuous. This way I could focus on rehabilitation.


Stats: 40 years old 5’9”180 lbs
Goal is to rebuild strength and mobility after 15 years of messed up feet (dirt bike crash shattered both heels, 9 surgeries, fused subtalar joints x2, 4.5 years on disability). Want to actually do things in life again while looking decent.


Current Regimen

• Just pinned 50mg Taro Test Cyp at the pharmacy today (doc wrote 50mg every 4 weeks… “moderate dose” lmao, almost fell out of my seat)
• Switching to GPE T400 for ~250mg/week base pinning EOD (~0.18ml)
• Low dose Deca ~100mg/week (therapeutic)
• Global Pharma Anavar 20mg/day (on day 4-5)
• Just dropped the Pharma Tech Masteron
• Started Revive MD Liver (TUDCA/NAC)

Bloods (March vs April) ALT: 79 → 114 (high)Hematocrit: 0.51 → 0.53 (high)Hemoglobin: 172 → 178Creatinine: 127 → 118 (top end)Total Test: <7.4 nmol/L (previous Pharma Tech was bunk)E2: <30 pmol/L (crashed)


Symptoms right now: Extreme bone-deep fatigue, gassed after one set at the gym, super dry paper-like skin, brutal brain fog (can’t put sentences together, lose my train of thought).


Training: 3-4x week lifting (injuries holding me back right now), trying to get stronger without blowing up. I mainly get to the gym and sit down on the equipment without having to be on my feet much.


Diet: I try to keep my protein high, but it's difficult because I'm at the mercy of my mothers cooking. She's a great cook! But that means tracking my macros is very difficult without bothering my mom in the kitchen.


Supplements: Multivitamin (Kirkland), Omega 3, Vitamin D, Creatine, Magnesium, etc. Just added the Revive Liver support.


Goals: Fix the fatigue and brain fog, get my strength and mobility back, drop a bit more body fat while staying around the same weight. Safety and longevity first.


Will update this log regularly with pins, how I feel, bloods, etc.

bros good job laying out the bloods. now you have it on paper to compare to future. goals look solid to be honest lets hit this one hard! @0riginalrelica

 

[ballin2504]

This is my first log on here, brand new to the forum. If you guys need more info just let me know. Tried to keep it short but it’s still a lot lol. Trying to optimize for a couple years now, but it's been difficult with having 8 surgeries in the past 6 years. Last year I had to move back home and live with my parents for support, as daily living became to strenuous. This way I could focus on rehabilitation.


Stats: 40 years old 5’9”180 lbs
Goal is to rebuild strength and mobility after 15 years of messed up feet (dirt bike crash shattered both heels, 9 surgeries, fused subtalar joints x2, 4.5 years on disability). Want to actually do things in life again while looking decent.


Current Regimen

• Just pinned 50mg Taro Test Cyp at the pharmacy today (doc wrote 50mg every 4 weeks… “moderate dose” lmao, almost fell out of my seat)
• Switching to GPE T400 for ~250mg/week base pinning EOD (~0.18ml)
• Low dose Deca ~100mg/week (therapeutic)
• Global Pharma Anavar 20mg/day (on day 4-5)
• Just dropped the Pharma Tech Masteron
• Started Revive MD Liver (TUDCA/NAC)

Bloods (March vs April) ALT: 79 → 114 (high)Hematocrit: 0.51 → 0.53 (high)Hemoglobin: 172 → 178Creatinine: 127 → 118 (top end)Total Test: <7.4 nmol/L (previous Pharma Tech was bunk)E2: <30 pmol/L (crashed)


Symptoms right now: Extreme bone-deep fatigue, gassed after one set at the gym, super dry paper-like skin, brutal brain fog (can’t put sentences together, lose my train of thought).


Training: 3-4x week lifting (injuries holding me back right now), trying to get stronger without blowing up. I mainly get to the gym and sit down on the equipment without having to be on my feet much.


Diet: I try to keep my protein high, but it's difficult because I'm at the mercy of my mothers cooking. She's a great cook! But that means tracking my macros is very difficult without bothering my mom in the kitchen.


Supplements: Multivitamin (Kirkland), Omega 3, Vitamin D, Creatine, Magnesium, etc. Just added the Revive Liver support.


Goals: Fix the fatigue and brain fog, get my strength and mobility back, drop a bit more body fat while staying around the same weight. Safety and longevity first.


Will update this log regularly with pins, how I feel, bloods, etc.

@0riginialrelica nice start to the log and we’re glad to have you here!

 

[0riginalrelica]

Welcome to evo great start to the log will be following along
Looking great definitely good starting position to stack on some muscle

Thanks!

Solid start to logging on Evo brother. I am sure with the wealth of knowledge we have here in the Evo Family we can help you get things going in the right direction. So welcome and I look forward o following your journey

Thanks! Looking forward to being part of EVO.

@0riginalrelica this is going to be a fun one to follow. I think you have an excellent base to work with. Now from here it's all about consistency.

Welcome to EVO logging brother I'm happy to see this up!


Good for you and good for your folks for supporting you when you need it. I've done this myself for 1.5 years when I needed help and it was the best decision at the time!


We will get you there brother, this is just the start


This sounds hormonal to me. Plan to do bloodwork again in 4-6 weeks and be very detailed with your dosages and pin frequency


We got your back for this and we will get you there bro. Safety and longevity always first.


As well as diet and exercise please, very important.

We got your back brother thanks for joining the EVO family!

Yes. That's a good idea. Appreciate it. I'll try and fill out as much as I can. Unfortunately, it's really hard to track my macros or diet for that matter. Because I eat whatever my mom makes, I have to ballpark the meal. Like last night was meatloaf. The night before pulled pork on a bun. The night before that was chicken broccoli casserole. Before that was Mexican casserole. I am beyond blessed to have my mom cook these amazing meals! I don't take it for granted for even a single day. And when she is in the kitchen I don't want to bother her by asking how much ingredients she is putting into the meal, since they are home cooked. So I try and stay under 2100 calories per day. That has been my sweet spot. If I go over I gain, and under I lose. That's based off the level of activity I can do in a day at about 3500 steps per day.

Hey mate, nice first log post.

You have a really good starting physique. Good shape and pretty lean.

The main thing will be to get your trt dialled in. Switching to more frequent injections will make a massive difference.

I think you need to work out a way to track your food better as well.

Can you share some typical workouts?

Thanks! See above for food. I will update my workout plan.

Well done on getting past the injuries

Thanks

Fatigue is never fun. Hopefully you can dial in what the issue is. Can be a lot of things happening. @0riginalrelica

Man, tell me about it! Yesterday, my fatigued finally subsided and my strength returning. I think the testosterone is kicking in.

I like how you structure this log. @0riginalrelica you kind of be honest about each thing and what you're trying to work on.

Thanks! AI did most of the work. Just some minor tweaks here and there.

@0riginalrelica for all the stuff that you've been through and the tough situations with feeling fatigued, you sure have a good body. I can't wait to see, once you get things balanced out, what you're capable of.

Yeah, unfortunately I shrunk down quite a bit from September last year. Surgery and possible bad batch of Pharma Tech would do that.

bros good job laying out the bloods. now you have it on paper to compare to future. goals look solid to be honest lets hit this one hard! @0riginalrelica

Thanks!

@0riginialrelica nice start to the log and we’re glad to have you here!

Thanks. This sounds like a great group of guys!

 

[0riginalrelica]

Blood Work Summary - Apr 13 & Mar 18 2026
Date: Apr 13 2026 | Mar 18 2026

Hormones​

• Testosterone, Total: 2.7 nmol/L (low) | 7.4 nmol/L (low)
• Estradiol (E2): <30 pmol/L | 39 pmol/L
• Prolactin: 8.3 ug/L | 12.2 ug/L (both normal)
• TSH: 2.91 mIU/L | 2.16 mIU/L (both normal)

Metabolic / Glucose​

• HbA1c: — | 5.3% (normal)

Kidney Function​

• Creatinine: 118 umol/L | 127 umol/L (high)
• eGFR: 69 | 63 mL/min/1.73m² (both mildly reduced)

Liver​

• ALT: 114 U/L (high) | 79 U/L (high)

Inflammation​

• CRP: <0.6 mg/L | <0.6 mg/L (excellent)

Electrolytes​

• Sodium: 140 | 141 mmol/L (normal)
• Potassium: 4.5 | 5.6 mmol/L (high on Mar)
• Calcium: 2.51 | 2.50 mmol/L (normal)
• Chloride: 106 mmol/L
• CO2: 27 mmol/L
• Anion Gap: 7

Lipids​

• Total Cholesterol: 5.38 mmol/L (high)
• HDL: 1.42 mmol/L
• LDL (calc): 3.58 mmol/L (high)
• Triglycerides: 0.93 mmol/L (good)

CBC + Differential​

Parameter	Apr 13	Mar 18	Status
WBC	4.1	4.9	Normal
RBC	5.71	5.62	Normal-High
Hemoglobin	178 g/L	178 g/L	High
Hematocrit	0.53 L/L	0.51	High
MCV	92	91	Normal
MCHC	339	347	Normal
Platelets	201	194	Normal
Neutrophils Abs	1.8	2.1	Normal
Lymphocytes Abs	1.8	2.1	Normal

 

[LevButlerov]

Blood Work Summary - Apr 13 & Mar 18 2026
Date: Apr 13 2026 | Mar 18 2026

Hormones​

• Testosterone, Total: 2.7 nmol/L (low) | 7.4 nmol/L (low)
• Estradiol (E2): <30 pmol/L | 39 pmol/L
• Prolactin: 8.3 ug/L | 12.2 ug/L (both normal)
• TSH: 2.91 mIU/L | 2.16 mIU/L (both normal)

Metabolic / Glucose​

• HbA1c: — | 5.3% (normal)

Kidney Function​

• Creatinine: 118 umol/L | 127 umol/L (high)
• eGFR: 69 | 63 mL/min/1.73m² (both mildly reduced)

Liver​

• ALT: 114 U/L (high) | 79 U/L (high)

Inflammation​

• CRP: <0.6 mg/L | <0.6 mg/L (excellent)

Electrolytes​

• Sodium: 140 | 141 mmol/L (normal)
• Potassium: 4.5 | 5.6 mmol/L (high on Mar)
• Calcium: 2.51 | 2.50 mmol/L (normal)
• Chloride: 106 mmol/L
• CO2: 27 mmol/L
• Anion Gap: 7

Lipids​

• Total Cholesterol: 5.38 mmol/L (high)
• HDL: 1.42 mmol/L
• LDL (calc): 3.58 mmol/L (high)
• Triglycerides: 0.93 mmol/L (good)

CBC + Differential​

Parameter	Apr 13	Mar 18	Status
WBC	4.1	4.9	Normal
RBC	5.71	5.62	Normal-High
Hemoglobin	178 g/L	178 g/L	High
Hematocrit	0.53 L/L	0.51	High
MCV	92	91	Normal
MCHC	339	347	Normal
Platelets	201	194	Normal
Neutrophils Abs	1.8	2.1	Normal
Lymphocytes Abs	1.8	2.1	Normal

these are your bloods BEFORE you pinned any testosterone correct? @0riginalrelica

 

[0riginalrelica]

these are your bloods BEFORE you pinned any testosterone correct? @0riginalrelica

Correct.

 

[LevButlerov]

Correct.

got you

 

[ROIDDERS]

Yeah, unfortunately I shrunk down quite a bit from September last year. Surgery and possible bad batch of Pharma Tech would do that.

It happens man. We all go through things like this

 

[2Thick]

Man, tell me about it! Yesterday, my fatigued finally subsided and my strength returning. I think the testosterone is kicking in.

I wonder if that's something you need to take a closer look at.

 

[Tiger Salman Khan]

This is my first log on here, brand new to the forum. If you guys need more info just let me know. Tried to keep it short but it’s still a lot lol. Trying to optimize for a couple years now, but it's been difficult with having 8 surgeries in the past 6 years. Last year I had to move back home and live with my parents for support, as daily living became to strenuous. This way I could focus on rehabilitation.


Stats: 40 years old 5’9”180 lbs
Goal is to rebuild strength and mobility after 15 years of messed up feet (dirt bike crash shattered both heels, 9 surgeries, fused subtalar joints x2, 4.5 years on disability). Want to actually do things in life again while looking decent.


Current Regimen

• Just pinned 50mg Taro Test Cyp at the pharmacy today (doc wrote 50mg every 4 weeks… “moderate dose” lmao, almost fell out of my seat)
• Switching to GPE T400 for ~250mg/week base pinning EOD (~0.18ml)
• Low dose Deca ~100mg/week (therapeutic)
• Global Pharma Anavar 20mg/day (on day 4-5)
• Just dropped the Pharma Tech Masteron
• Started Revive MD Liver (TUDCA/NAC)

Bloods (March vs April) ALT: 79 → 114 (high)Hematocrit: 0.51 → 0.53 (high)Hemoglobin: 172 → 178Creatinine: 127 → 118 (top end)Total Test: <7.4 nmol/L (previous Pharma Tech was bunk)E2: <30 pmol/L (crashed)


Symptoms right now: Extreme bone-deep fatigue, gassed after one set at the gym, super dry paper-like skin, brutal brain fog (can’t put sentences together, lose my train of thought).


Training: 3-4x week lifting (injuries holding me back right now), trying to get stronger without blowing up. I mainly get to the gym and sit down on the equipment without having to be on my feet much.


Diet: I try to keep my protein high, but it's difficult because I'm at the mercy of my mothers cooking. She's a great cook! But that means tracking my macros is very difficult without bothering my mom in the kitchen.


Supplements: Multivitamin (Kirkland), Omega 3, Vitamin D, Creatine, Magnesium, etc. Just added the Revive Liver support.


Goals: Fix the fatigue and brain fog, get my strength and mobility back, drop a bit more body fat while staying around the same weight. Safety and longevity first.


Will update this log regularly with pins, how I feel, bloods, etc.

@0riginalrelica amazing physique.....good start to log.....

 

[HarleyGuy]

Blood Work Summary - Apr 13 & Mar 18 2026
Date: Apr 13 2026 | Mar 18 2026

Hormones​

• Testosterone, Total: 2.7 nmol/L (low) | 7.4 nmol/L (low)
• Estradiol (E2): <30 pmol/L | 39 pmol/L
• Prolactin: 8.3 ug/L | 12.2 ug/L (both normal)
• TSH: 2.91 mIU/L | 2.16 mIU/L (both normal)

Metabolic / Glucose​

• HbA1c: — | 5.3% (normal)

Kidney Function​

• Creatinine: 118 umol/L | 127 umol/L (high)
• eGFR: 69 | 63 mL/min/1.73m² (both mildly reduced)

Liver​

• ALT: 114 U/L (high) | 79 U/L (high)

Inflammation​

• CRP: <0.6 mg/L | <0.6 mg/L (excellent)

Electrolytes​

• Sodium: 140 | 141 mmol/L (normal)
• Potassium: 4.5 | 5.6 mmol/L (high on Mar)
• Calcium: 2.51 | 2.50 mmol/L (normal)
• Chloride: 106 mmol/L
• CO2: 27 mmol/L
• Anion Gap: 7

Lipids​

• Total Cholesterol: 5.38 mmol/L (high)
• HDL: 1.42 mmol/L
• LDL (calc): 3.58 mmol/L (high)
• Triglycerides: 0.93 mmol/L (good)

CBC + Differential​

Parameter	Apr 13	Mar 18	Status
WBC	4.1	4.9	Normal
RBC	5.71	5.62	Normal-High
Hemoglobin	178 g/L	178 g/L	High
Hematocrit	0.53 L/L	0.51	High
MCV	92	91	Normal
MCHC	339	347	Normal
Platelets	201	194	Normal
Neutrophils Abs	1.8	2.1	Normal
Lymphocytes Abs	1.8	2.1	Normal

You're a perfect candidate for TRT bro and cycling too.
You can donate blood to get your CBC's in check too.

 

[Ziggie]

Correct.

So what did you change between March and April?

 

[Ulter]

Thanks! AI did most of the work. Just some minor tweaks here and there.

Yeah I don't trust AI. I've seen it wrong more often than not.

 

[0riginalrelica]

So what did you change between March and April?

Nothing. I figure the Test I was taking was bunk. Pharma Tech T-400

 

[0riginalrelica]

Training Split Overview​

• Frequency: 4-5 days per week (typically 2 on, 1 off, 2 on, 2 off or similar flexible structure)
• Rep Range: Mostly 7-10 reps (hypertrophy focused)
• Cardio: 20 minutes walking a couple times per week post-workout

---

Day 1: Chest + Biceps​

• Plate-Loaded/Cable Incline Press – 3 sets × 8-10
• Plate-Loaded/Cable Bench Press – 3 sets × 8-10(Alternate with Decline Press on different sessions – don’t do both same day)
• Plate-Loaded Decline Press – 3 sets × 8-10 (when not doing flat bench)
• Pec Deck – 3-4 sets × 8-10(First 2 sets: single-arm at 45° angle for full ROM)

Biceps (choose one):

• Plate-Loaded Preacher Curl or Dumbbell Curls or Straight Barbell Curl – 3 sets × 8-10

Optional (if energy allows):

• Cable Flyes (Incline + Decline) – 3 sets × 8-10
• Cross-Bench Dumbbell Pullover – 2 sets × 7-10

---

Day 2: Back + Triceps​

• Plate-Loaded Lat Pulldown (Cable) – 3 sets × 7-10
• Plate-Loaded Row Machine – 3 sets × 7-10
• T-Bar Row (Plate-Loaded) – 3 sets × 6-9
• Lower Back Extension – 3 sets × 7-10
• Triceps Cable – 3 sets × 8-10

---

Day 3: Legs​

• Hammer Strength Plate-Loaded Pendulum-X Squat – 3-4 sets × 7-10
• Leg Extension (Plate-Loaded/Cable) – 3 sets × 8-10
• Lying Leg Curl (Cable) – 3 sets × 8-10
• Hip Abductor + Hip Adductor – 3 sets × 8-10 (if energy allows)

---

Day 5: Shoulders + Abs/Core​

• Shoulder Press Machine – 3 sets × 8-10 (last set drop set)
• Lateral Raise Machine – 3 sets × 8-10(Alternate with Dumbbell Lateral Raises – don’t do both same day)
• Front Dumbbell Raise – 3 sets × 8-10
• Lateral Dumbbell Raise – 3 sets × 8-10 (if not doing machine)
• Dumbbell Rear Delt Raise – 3 sets × 8-10
• Dumbbell Shrugs or Hammer Strength Ground Base Shrugs – 3 sets × 7-10

Abs/Core – 3 sets × 8-10 (choose your preferred movements)

---

Special Lower Body Day (once every 1–1.5 weeks)​

Focus day for glutes + posterior chain:

• Hip Thrust Machine (Plate-Loaded) – 3 sets × 6-8
• Hammer Strength Ground Base Deadlift/Squat/Lunge Machine– Deadlifts: 4 sets × 6-10– Lunges: 4 sets × 6-10

---

Additional Notes​

• Flexible schedule: 2 on / 1 off / 2 on / 2 off or 3 on / 1 off / 1 on / 2 off or 3 on / 2 off / 1 on / 1-2 off
• Drop sets for various workouts included

 

[0riginalrelica]

I'm starting to feel better now and my skin is looking much healthier and I'm not so dehydrated all the time. I'll try an update what supplements I'm taking.

 

[LevButlerov]

Training Split Overview​

• Frequency: 4-5 days per week (typically 2 on, 1 off, 2 on, 2 off or similar flexible structure)
• Rep Range: Mostly 7-10 reps (hypertrophy focused)
• Cardio: 20 minutes walking a couple times per week post-workout

---

Day 1: Chest + Biceps​

• Plate-Loaded/Cable Incline Press – 3 sets × 8-10
• Plate-Loaded/Cable Bench Press – 3 sets × 8-10(Alternate with Decline Press on different sessions – don’t do both same day)
• Plate-Loaded Decline Press – 3 sets × 8-10 (when not doing flat bench)
• Pec Deck – 3-4 sets × 8-10(First 2 sets: single-arm at 45° angle for full ROM)

Biceps (choose one):

• Plate-Loaded Preacher Curl or Dumbbell Curls or Straight Barbell Curl – 3 sets × 8-10

Optional (if energy allows):

• Cable Flyes (Incline + Decline) – 3 sets × 8-10
• Cross-Bench Dumbbell Pullover – 2 sets × 7-10

---

Day 2: Back + Triceps​

• Plate-Loaded Lat Pulldown (Cable) – 3 sets × 7-10
• Plate-Loaded Row Machine – 3 sets × 7-10
• T-Bar Row (Plate-Loaded) – 3 sets × 6-9
• Lower Back Extension – 3 sets × 7-10
• Triceps Cable – 3 sets × 8-10

---

Day 3: Legs​

• Hammer Strength Plate-Loaded Pendulum-X Squat – 3-4 sets × 7-10
• Leg Extension (Plate-Loaded/Cable) – 3 sets × 8-10
• Lying Leg Curl (Cable) – 3 sets × 8-10
• Hip Abductor + Hip Adductor – 3 sets × 8-10 (if energy allows)

---

Day 5: Shoulders + Abs/Core​

• Shoulder Press Machine – 3 sets × 8-10 (last set drop set)
• Lateral Raise Machine – 3 sets × 8-10(Alternate with Dumbbell Lateral Raises – don’t do both same day)
• Front Dumbbell Raise – 3 sets × 8-10
• Lateral Dumbbell Raise – 3 sets × 8-10 (if not doing machine)
• Dumbbell Rear Delt Raise – 3 sets × 8-10
• Dumbbell Shrugs or Hammer Strength Ground Base Shrugs – 3 sets × 7-10

Abs/Core – 3 sets × 8-10 (choose your preferred movements)

---

Special Lower Body Day (once every 1–1.5 weeks)​

Focus day for glutes + posterior chain:

• Hip Thrust Machine (Plate-Loaded) – 3 sets × 6-8
• Hammer Strength Ground Base Deadlift/Squat/Lunge Machine– Deadlifts: 4 sets × 6-10– Lunges: 4 sets × 6-10

---

Additional Notes​

• Flexible schedule: 2 on / 1 off / 2 on / 2 off or 3 on / 1 off / 1 on / 2 off or 3 on / 2 off / 1 on / 1-2 off
• Drop sets for various workouts included

good training steady but dont use ai to write it would be good

I'm starting to feel better now and my skin is looking much healthier and I'm not so dehydrated all the time. I'll try an update what supplements I'm taking.

lets get the supps update

 

[0riginalrelica]

@LevButlerov I just use AI to polish off what I already wrote in a more legible format. That took like an hour and half to write that haha

 

[LevButlerov]

@LevButlerov I just use AI to polish off what I already wrote in a more legible format. That took like an hour and half to write that haha

better just write yourself so we can talk to you not chatbot even if looks bad @0riginalrelica

 

[0riginalrelica]

Here is my supplements

Vitamin D3 - 10,000 IU
Omega 3 1200mg
Magnesium 200mg Before bed
Naka NAC 600mg
Allmax TUDCA 250mg
Revive Liver
Kirkland Men's Multi Vitamin - I prefer Mutant Multivitamin if I can get it on sale from SupplementSource.ca
C4 Ultimate - Take about 3/4 scoop


I can't really do my diet. Whatever is in the fridge is what I eat. I don't drink protein shakes. I find that I generally get enough protein in a day, and shakes add extra calories. My farts also stink from the excess protein. Also, it's too expensive for my blood.

 

[LevButlerov]

Here is my supplements

Vitamin D3 - 10,000 IU
Omega 3 1200mg
Magnesium 200mg Before bed
Naka NAC 600mg
Allmax TUDCA 250mg
Revive Liver
Kirkland Men's Multi Vitamin - I prefer Mutant Multivitamin if I can get it on sale from SupplementSource.ca
C4 Ultimate - Take about 3/4 scoop


I can't really do my diet. Whatever is in the fridge is what I eat. I don't drink protein shakes. I find that I generally get enough protein in a day, and shakes add extra calories. My farts also stink from the excess protein. Also, it's too expensive for my blood.

how do you know you're getting enough protein if you dont track it? @0riginalrelica

d3 10k is a high why so high?

 

[0riginalrelica]

You're right, I don't really know because how can I if I don't track it. I'm really just guessing, but I've gotten pretty good at it (I'm assuming) based off how my body reacts and the changes I see in it over the long term. When I was living on my own I was able to track my macros well, and that gave me a general idea of how much calories are in meals. I would love to track my macros but it's not viable at the moment so best I can do is eyeball it. Some things I can track, however, like eggs and toast.

D3 is a hormone and helps regulate mood, inflammation, bone health, immunity. You obviously know all that, but I found that 7000-1000iu is noticable in my mood. It's more stabilized. I mean in could be a placebo effect, I'm aware but even placebo effect can be pretty powerful. I've been taking that amount for like 5 years now.

 

[LevButlerov]

You're right, I don't really know because how can I if I don't track it. I'm really just guessing, but I've gotten pretty good at it (I'm assuming) based off how my body reacts and the changes I see in it over the long term. When I was living on my own I was able to track my macros well, and that gave me a general idea of how much calories are in meals. I would love to track my macros but it's not viable at the moment so best I can do is eyeball it. Some things I can track, however, like eggs and toast.

D3 is a hormone and helps regulate mood, inflammation, bone health, immunity. You obviously know all that, but I found that 7000-1000iu is noticable in my mood. It's more stabilized. I mean in could be a placebo effect, I'm aware but even placebo effect can be pretty powerful. I've been taking that amount for like 5 years now.

I would start at least 2 weeks to track with an app, how about you try? myfitnesspal write it down for 2 weeks you can see a huge difference this way @0riginalrelica
10k iu D helps? use it then

 

[0riginalrelica]

I would start at least 2 weeks to track with an app, how about you try? myfitnesspal write it down for 2 weeks you can see a huge difference this way @0riginalrelica
10k iu D helps? use it then

Hmmm I might have to give it a go

 

[LevButlerov]

Hmmm I might have to give it a go

lets try

 

[0riginalrelica]

I want to do a big order of Test that will last me a year and half to two years. I want to play it safe while I have a decent income coming in. My future income, due to my feet, is not set in stone so it makes me a little nervous. That's why I want to stock pile enough test, AI, and Deca to whether any storm. So I need to decide what supplier, what type of ester, what kind of carrier oil, as well as shelf life. I think I'd like to stay on 250mg/week. Any recommendations? Are there any deals going on right now? I saw Pur-Pharma had a deal on last August for buy any 2 items get vial of Test or Cyp.

 

[BritishCanadian]

I want to do a big order of Test that will last me a year and half to two years. I want to play it safe while I have a decent income coming in. My future income, due to my feet, is not set in stone so it makes me a little nervous. That's why I want to stock pile enough test, AI, and Deca to whether any storm. So I need to decide what supplier, what type of ester, what kind of carrier oil, as well as shelf life. I think I'd like to stay on 250mg/week. Any recommendations? Are there any deals going on right now? I saw Pur-Pharma had a deal on last August for buy any 2 items get vial of Test or Cyp.

Maybe reach out to the labs and tell them your plan, see what offers they may have.

@OxygenPharm has combo deals if you buy 4 or 5 products https://oxygenpharmcanada.is/

 

[0riginalrelica]

Maybe reach out to the labs and tell them your plan, see what offers they may have.

@OxygenPharm has combo deals if you buy 4 or 5 products https://oxygenpharmcanada.is/

View attachment 228889

That's a good idea! Thanks

 

[LevButlerov]

I want to do a big order of Test that will last me a year and half to two years. I want to play it safe while I have a decent income coming in. My future income, due to my feet, is not set in stone so it makes me a little nervous. That's why I want to stock pile enough test, AI, and Deca to whether any storm. So I need to decide what supplier, what type of ester, what kind of carrier oil, as well as shelf life. I think I'd like to stay on 250mg/week. Any recommendations? Are there any deals going on right now? I saw Pur-Pharma had a deal on last August for buy any 2 items get vial of Test or Cyp.

I would go with Team O2 they are trusted in the EVO family @OxygenPharm @0riginalrelica
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...ada-is-canadian-domestic-source.110856/unread
https://oxygenpharmcanada.is/

you doing test only?
and update log please

 

[0riginalrelica]

@LevButlerov How do you like MCT oil vs Grape Seed? Especially in Test Cyp

 

[0riginalrelica]

I would go with Team O2 they are trusted in the EVO family @OxygenPharm @0riginalrelica
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...ada-is-canadian-domestic-source.110856/unread
https://oxygenpharmcanada.is/

you doing test only?
and update log please

Updated Log:

Test Cyp - 250mg per week split into two doses Monday & Thursday
Deca - 120mg per week split into two doses Monday & Thursday
Anavar - 10mg every morning - will boost to 20mg once I get my bloodwork done

 

[LevButlerov]

Updated Log:

Test Cyp - 250mg per week split into two doses Monday & Thursday
Deca - 120mg per week split into two doses Monday & Thursday
Anavar - 10mg every morning - will boost to 20mg once I get my bloodwork done

good start how about your cycle support? supps? @0riginalrelica
and training diet?

 

[LevButlerov]

@LevButlerov How do you like MCT oil vs Grape Seed? Especially in Test Cyp

I think both work perfect MCT is a bit more smooth but grape seed is a win many times too @0riginalrelica

 

[0riginalrelica]

My supps hasn't changed.

Vitamin D3 - 10,000 IU
Omega 3 1200mg
Magnesium 200mg Before bed
Naka NAC 600mg
Allmax TUDCA 250mg
Revive Liver
Kirkland Men's Multi Vitamin
C4 Ultimate - Take about 3/4 scoop

Been working on my diet.

 

[0riginalrelica]

@LevButlerov @HarleyGuy To mitigate potential sides like backney and sensitive nipples(before gyno) should I get arimidex and novaldex? Or just arimidex? I'm going to do a big bulk order with Oxygen.

 

[LevButlerov]

@LevButlerov @HarleyGuy To mitigate potential sides like backney and sensitive nipples(before gyno) should I get arimidex and novaldex? Or just arimidex? I'm going to do a big bulk order with Oxygen.

generally speaking aromasin with light proviron as well and good pick on Team O2 @OxygenPharm

My supps hasn't changed.

Vitamin D3 - 10,000 IU
Omega 3 1200mg
Magnesium 200mg Before bed
Naka NAC 600mg
Allmax TUDCA 250mg
Revive Liver
Kirkland Men's Multi Vitamin
C4 Ultimate - Take about 3/4 scoop

Been working on my diet.

you're not taking digestive aids still why? @0riginalrelica

 

[0riginalrelica]

generally speaking aromasin with light proviron as well and good pick on Team O2 @OxygenPharm

you're not taking digestive aids still why? @0riginalrelica

What do you recommend for digestive aid?

Interesting. I was taking proviron last year. About 8-10 months or so. I noticed my sphincter prolapses every time I deficate. Even to this day. It's been happening now for about a year and half. It's quite annoying and I hope it fixes itself. I'm assuming it was proviron plus Masteron. I haven't taken proviron since last August.

 

[LevButlerov]

What do you recommend for digestive aid?

Interesting. I was taking proviron last year. About 8-10 months or so. I noticed my sphincter prolapses every time I deficate. Even to this day. It's been happening now for about a year and half. It's quite annoying and I hope it fixes itself. I'm assuming it was proviron plus Masteron. I haven't taken proviron since last August.

i suggest probiotics digestive enzymes ed and psyllium husk
proviron is a win to add @0riginalrelica

 

[0riginalrelica]

i suggest probiotics digestive enzymes ed and psyllium husk
proviron is a win to add @0riginalrelica

How does proviron mitage sides?

 

[LevButlerov]

How does proviron mitage sides?

proviron will help with your DHT /DHN

 

[0riginalrelica]

proviron will help with your DHT /DHN

At $95 for 50 tables of Proviron, that's to rich for my blood. How can I control sides while running 250mg/week test and 90mg/week deca(need to reduce dose)? Ill get some arimidex. Ideally I want 2 years worth of gear. My budget is $1000

 

[HarleyGuy]

@LevButlerov @HarleyGuy To mitigate potential sides like backney and sensitive nipples(before gyno) should I get arimidex and novaldex? Or just arimidex? I'm going to do a big bulk order with Oxygen.

Better to have aromasin on hand (vs. arimidex) and I take 25mg proviron ED whether on or off cycle.

 

[HarleyGuy]

What do you recommend for digestive aid?

I take 10g psyllium before each of my 4 meals for a total of 40g each day. Along with Apple Cider Vinegar (ACV). Make sure you get the ACV "with mother". When I'm almost done my meal I take a couple capsules of Digest Gold for probiotic. I do this with every meal and I'm now digesting everything, no bloat, and I'm regular for the first time in my life.

 

[0riginalrelica]

Better to have aromasin on hand (vs. arimidex) and I take 25mg proviron ED whether on or off cycle

Okay, go with Aromasin. Gotcha. I can't justify the price for proviron at the moment. $95 for 50 tablets - that would be $1300 for 2 years worth.

 

[LevButlerov]

At $95 for 50 tables of Proviron, that's to rich for my blood. How can I control sides while running 250mg/week test and 90mg/week deca(need to reduce dose)? Ill get some arimidex. Ideally I want 2 years worth of gear. My budget is $1000

get aromasin not proviron in this case @0riginalrelica

 

[0riginalrelica]

Updated Log:

I received my latest bloodwork. I did my bloodwork at 08:00 yesterday (Monday morning) and received my test results this morning. Last pin was Thursday night. I took 2 days off from the gym before doing my bloodwork. Friday morning I started on Proviron.

Gear -

• Taro Test Cyp per week - 250mg (split into 125mg Monday and Thursday) The pip is really bad since it uses cottenseed oil
• Low dose Deca ~100mg/week (therapeutic)
• Global Pharma Anavar 20mg/day = Started on 20mg from 10mg yesterday
• Proviron - 25mg every day in the morning. Should I split the tablet to 12.5mg morning and night, or take the full 25mg in the morning?

I ordered 5 vials of Oxygen Test Cyp, 4 packs of Nordic Fusion Proviron, 1 pack of Nordic Fusion Aromasin.

Supplements -

• Vitamin D3 - 7,500 IU
• Kirkland Salmon Fish Oil
• Magnesium 200mg Before bed
• Naka NAC 600mg
• Allmax TUDCA 250mg
• Revive Liver
• Kirkland Men's Multi Vitamin
• Psyllium Husk - 3 teaspoon a day
• Mother Earth Apple Cider Vinegar - 2 tablespoons a day
• C4 Ultimate - Take about 3/4 scoop
• Creatine 5g daily
• Waiting on an order for Bio-K Plus Probiotic

I've been feeling really bloated and constipated and overall been having an uneasy stomach for the last 2 weeks. Since I've gotten on Psyllium husk and Apple Cider Vinegar, about a week ago, it seems to have done the trick, for the most part. I read that high Estradiol can lead to bloating which is what I have. The good news is my Testosterone is solid now.

 

[0riginalrelica]

I should mention that after seeing my Estradiol so high last night, I took 3.125mg of Aromison. I don't know if it would do anything, but I errord on the side of caution. Grok said to take 12.5mg twice a week, after putting in my results. I thought I would check in with you guys to see what I should be taking.

 

[BritishCanadian]

I should mention that after seeing my Estradiol so high last night, I took 3.125mg of Aromison. I don't know if it would do anything, but I errord on the side of caution. Grok said to take 12.5mg twice a week, after putting in my results. I thought I would check in with you guys to see what I should be taking.

Check with the guys here before grok would be my advice

 

[LevButlerov]

Updated Log:

I received my latest bloodwork. I did my bloodwork at 08:00 yesterday (Monday morning) and received my test results this morning. Last pin was Thursday night. I took 2 days off from the gym before doing my bloodwork. Friday morning I started on Proviron.

Gear -

• Taro Test Cyp per week - 250mg (split into 125mg Monday and Thursday) The pip is really bad since it uses cottenseed oil
• Low dose Deca ~100mg/week (therapeutic)
• Global Pharma Anavar 20mg/day = Started on 20mg from 10mg yesterday
• Proviron - 25mg every day in the morning. Should I split the tablet to 12.5mg morning and night, or take the full 25mg in the morning?

I ordered 5 vials of Oxygen Test Cyp, 4 packs of Nordic Fusion Proviron, 1 pack of Nordic Fusion Aromasin.

Supplements -

• Vitamin D3 - 7,500 IU
• Kirkland Salmon Fish Oil
• Magnesium 200mg Before bed
• Naka NAC 600mg
• Allmax TUDCA 250mg
• Revive Liver
• Kirkland Men's Multi Vitamin
• Psyllium Husk - 3 teaspoon a day
• Mother Earth Apple Cider Vinegar - 2 tablespoons a day
• C4 Ultimate - Take about 3/4 scoop
• Creatine 5g daily
• Waiting on an order for Bio-K Plus Probiotic

I've been feeling really bloated and constipated and overall been having an uneasy stomach for the last 2 weeks. Since I've gotten on Psyllium husk and Apple Cider Vinegar, about a week ago, it seems to have done the trick, for the most part. I read that high Estradiol can lead to bloating which is what I have. The good news is my Testosterone is solid now.

I should mention that after seeing my Estradiol so high last night, I took 3.125mg of Aromison. I don't know if it would do anything, but I errord on the side of caution. Grok said to take 12.5mg twice a week, after putting in my results. I thought I would check in with you guys to see what I should be taking.

your estrogen is high and prolactin on high range @0riginalrelica and please dont use ai for advice! aromasin you need at least 10mgs at your size and level, 12.5mgs is a start but go mon/wed/fri

the deca is causing higher prolactin as well you need to cut the dose

 

[0riginalrelica]

your estrogen is high and prolactin on high range @0riginalrelica and please dont use ai for advice! aromasin you need at least 10mgs at your size and level, 12.5mgs is a start but go mon/wed/fri

the deca is causing higher prolactin as well you need to cut the dose

Should I take 12.5mg of aromison tonight being Tuesday? How long does it take the body to develop gyno? How long do I keep taking it mon/wed/Fri?

My prolactin seems to be within the normal range. I can drop the dose down by 10mg to 90mg per week.

 

[LevButlerov]

Should I take 12.5mg of aromison tonight being Tuesday? How long does it take the body to develop gyno? How long do I keep taking it mon/wed/Fri?

My prolactin seems to be within the normal range. I can drop the dose down by 10mg to 90mg per week.

I would take aromasin today and plan for 3x/week @0riginalrelica dont worry about gyno yet

on the prolactin you can get p5p supplement

 

[Mobster]

Taro Test Cyp per week - 250mg (split into 125mg Monday and Thursday) The pip is really bad since it uses cottenseed oil

Can't you swap that?

 

[2Thick]

Updated Log:

I received my latest bloodwork. I did my bloodwork at 08:00 yesterday (Monday morning) and received my test results this morning. Last pin was Thursday night. I took 2 days off from the gym before doing my bloodwork. Friday morning I started on Proviron.

Gear -

• Taro Test Cyp per week - 250mg (split into 125mg Monday and Thursday) The pip is really bad since it uses cottenseed oil
• Low dose Deca ~100mg/week (therapeutic)
• Global Pharma Anavar 20mg/day = Started on 20mg from 10mg yesterday
• Proviron - 25mg every day in the morning. Should I split the tablet to 12.5mg morning and night, or take the full 25mg in the morning?

I ordered 5 vials of Oxygen Test Cyp, 4 packs of Nordic Fusion Proviron, 1 pack of Nordic Fusion Aromasin.

Supplements -

• Vitamin D3 - 7,500 IU
• Kirkland Salmon Fish Oil
• Magnesium 200mg Before bed
• Naka NAC 600mg
• Allmax TUDCA 250mg
• Revive Liver
• Kirkland Men's Multi Vitamin
• Psyllium Husk - 3 teaspoon a day
• Mother Earth Apple Cider Vinegar - 2 tablespoons a day
• C4 Ultimate - Take about 3/4 scoop
• Creatine 5g daily
• Waiting on an order for Bio-K Plus Probiotic

I've been feeling really bloated and constipated and overall been having an uneasy stomach for the last 2 weeks. Since I've gotten on Psyllium husk and Apple Cider Vinegar, about a week ago, it seems to have done the trick, for the most part. I read that high Estradiol can lead to bloating which is what I have. The good news is my Testosterone is solid now.

The supplements look terrific, to be honest with you, and I like the gear layout. Proviron is one of the best. I would just take it once a day. Don't get too cute with it. @0riginalrelica

 

[stevesmi]

Updated Log:

I received my latest bloodwork. I did my bloodwork at 08:00 yesterday (Monday morning) and received my test results this morning. Last pin was Thursday night. I took 2 days off from the gym before doing my bloodwork. Friday morning I started on Proviron.

Gear -

• Taro Test Cyp per week - 250mg (split into 125mg Monday and Thursday) The pip is really bad since it uses cottenseed oil
• Low dose Deca ~100mg/week (therapeutic)
• Global Pharma Anavar 20mg/day = Started on 20mg from 10mg yesterday
• Proviron - 25mg every day in the morning. Should I split the tablet to 12.5mg morning and night, or take the full 25mg in the morning?

I ordered 5 vials of Oxygen Test Cyp, 4 packs of Nordic Fusion Proviron, 1 pack of Nordic Fusion Aromasin.

Supplements -

• Vitamin D3 - 7,500 IU
• Kirkland Salmon Fish Oil
• Magnesium 200mg Before bed
• Naka NAC 600mg
• Allmax TUDCA 250mg
• Revive Liver
• Kirkland Men's Multi Vitamin
• Psyllium Husk - 3 teaspoon a day
• Mother Earth Apple Cider Vinegar - 2 tablespoons a day
• C4 Ultimate - Take about 3/4 scoop
• Creatine 5g daily
• Waiting on an order for Bio-K Plus Probiotic

I've been feeling really bloated and constipated and overall been having an uneasy stomach for the last 2 weeks. Since I've gotten on Psyllium husk and Apple Cider Vinegar, about a week ago, it seems to have done the trick, for the most part. I read that high Estradiol can lead to bloating which is what I have. The good news is my Testosterone is solid now.

@0riginalrelica definitely curious to see how you make out with the low-dose deca. I noticed with me it helped some things but with other things it did not help. It did not help with my neck when I had my neck issues.

 

[Ulter]

Updated Log:

I received my latest bloodwork. I did my bloodwork at 08:00 yesterday (Monday morning) and received my test results this morning. Last pin was Thursday night. I took 2 days off from the gym before doing my bloodwork. Friday morning I started on Proviron.

Gear -

• Taro Test Cyp per week - 250mg (split into 125mg Monday and Thursday) The pip is really bad since it uses cottenseed oil
• Low dose Deca ~100mg/week (therapeutic)
• Global Pharma Anavar 20mg/day = Started on 20mg from 10mg yesterday
• Proviron - 25mg every day in the morning. Should I split the tablet to 12.5mg morning and night, or take the full 25mg in the morning?

I ordered 5 vials of Oxygen Test Cyp, 4 packs of Nordic Fusion Proviron, 1 pack of Nordic Fusion Aromasin.

Supplements -

• Vitamin D3 - 7,500 IU
• Kirkland Salmon Fish Oil
• Magnesium 200mg Before bed
• Naka NAC 600mg
• Allmax TUDCA 250mg
• Revive Liver
• Kirkland Men's Multi Vitamin
• Psyllium Husk - 3 teaspoon a day
• Mother Earth Apple Cider Vinegar - 2 tablespoons a day
• C4 Ultimate - Take about 3/4 scoop
• Creatine 5g daily
• Waiting on an order for Bio-K Plus Probiotic

I've been feeling really bloated and constipated and overall been having an uneasy stomach for the last 2 weeks. Since I've gotten on Psyllium husk and Apple Cider Vinegar, about a week ago, it seems to have done the trick, for the most part. I read that high Estradiol can lead to bloating which is what I have. The good news is my Testosterone is solid now.

You don't need to split up proviron. I think it's fine. I would even consider dropping the dose more since you're already taking anavar anyway. @0riginalrelica because they both do a good job of binding the SHBG

 

[ceo]

Updated Log:

I received my latest bloodwork. I did my bloodwork at 08:00 yesterday (Monday morning) and received my test results this morning. Last pin was Thursday night. I took 2 days off from the gym before doing my bloodwork. Friday morning I started on Proviron.

Gear -

• Taro Test Cyp per week - 250mg (split into 125mg Monday and Thursday) The pip is really bad since it uses cottenseed oil
• Low dose Deca ~100mg/week (therapeutic)
• Global Pharma Anavar 20mg/day = Started on 20mg from 10mg yesterday
• Proviron - 25mg every day in the morning. Should I split the tablet to 12.5mg morning and night, or take the full 25mg in the morning?

I ordered 5 vials of Oxygen Test Cyp, 4 packs of Nordic Fusion Proviron, 1 pack of Nordic Fusion Aromasin.

Supplements -

• Vitamin D3 - 7,500 IU
• Kirkland Salmon Fish Oil
• Magnesium 200mg Before bed
• Naka NAC 600mg
• Allmax TUDCA 250mg
• Revive Liver
• Kirkland Men's Multi Vitamin
• Psyllium Husk - 3 teaspoon a day
• Mother Earth Apple Cider Vinegar - 2 tablespoons a day
• C4 Ultimate - Take about 3/4 scoop
• Creatine 5g daily
• Waiting on an order for Bio-K Plus Probiotic

I've been feeling really bloated and constipated and overall been having an uneasy stomach for the last 2 weeks. Since I've gotten on Psyllium husk and Apple Cider Vinegar, about a week ago, it seems to have done the trick, for the most part. I read that high Estradiol can lead to bloating which is what I have. The good news is my Testosterone is solid now.

@0riginalrelica Bros, good job on this. The proviron that you're ordering is really a good idea, and I like the aromasin. You can never go wrong keeping it on hand. That's very smart. It will last you years.

 

[ROIDDERS]

Updated Log:

I received my latest bloodwork. I did my bloodwork at 08:00 yesterday (Monday morning) and received my test results this morning. Last pin was Thursday night. I took 2 days off from the gym before doing my bloodwork. Friday morning I started on Proviron.

Gear -

• Taro Test Cyp per week - 250mg (split into 125mg Monday and Thursday) The pip is really bad since it uses cottenseed oil
• Low dose Deca ~100mg/week (therapeutic)
• Global Pharma Anavar 20mg/day = Started on 20mg from 10mg yesterday
• Proviron - 25mg every day in the morning. Should I split the tablet to 12.5mg morning and night, or take the full 25mg in the morning?

I ordered 5 vials of Oxygen Test Cyp, 4 packs of Nordic Fusion Proviron, 1 pack of Nordic Fusion Aromasin.

Supplements -

• Vitamin D3 - 7,500 IU
• Kirkland Salmon Fish Oil
• Magnesium 200mg Before bed
• Naka NAC 600mg
• Allmax TUDCA 250mg
• Revive Liver
• Kirkland Men's Multi Vitamin
• Psyllium Husk - 3 teaspoon a day
• Mother Earth Apple Cider Vinegar - 2 tablespoons a day
• C4 Ultimate - Take about 3/4 scoop
• Creatine 5g daily
• Waiting on an order for Bio-K Plus Probiotic

I've been feeling really bloated and constipated and overall been having an uneasy stomach for the last 2 weeks. Since I've gotten on Psyllium husk and Apple Cider Vinegar, about a week ago, it seems to have done the trick, for the most part. I read that high Estradiol can lead to bloating which is what I have. The good news is my Testosterone is solid now.

Anavar is definitely one of my favorites. I wouldn't run the Anavar and proviron together though. Run one or the other. @0riginalrelica

 

[ballin2504]

Updated Log:

I received my latest bloodwork. I did my bloodwork at 08:00 yesterday (Monday morning) and received my test results this morning. Last pin was Thursday night. I took 2 days off from the gym before doing my bloodwork. Friday morning I started on Proviron.

Gear -

• Taro Test Cyp per week - 250mg (split into 125mg Monday and Thursday) The pip is really bad since it uses cottenseed oil
• Low dose Deca ~100mg/week (therapeutic)
• Global Pharma Anavar 20mg/day = Started on 20mg from 10mg yesterday
• Proviron - 25mg every day in the morning. Should I split the tablet to 12.5mg morning and night, or take the full 25mg in the morning?

I ordered 5 vials of Oxygen Test Cyp, 4 packs of Nordic Fusion Proviron, 1 pack of Nordic Fusion Aromasin.

Supplements -

• Vitamin D3 - 7,500 IU
• Kirkland Salmon Fish Oil
• Magnesium 200mg Before bed
• Naka NAC 600mg
• Allmax TUDCA 250mg
• Revive Liver
• Kirkland Men's Multi Vitamin
• Psyllium Husk - 3 teaspoon a day
• Mother Earth Apple Cider Vinegar - 2 tablespoons a day
• C4 Ultimate - Take about 3/4 scoop
• Creatine 5g daily
• Waiting on an order for Bio-K Plus Probiotic

I've been feeling really bloated and constipated and overall been having an uneasy stomach for the last 2 weeks. Since I've gotten on Psyllium husk and Apple Cider Vinegar, about a week ago, it seems to have done the trick, for the most part. I read that high Estradiol can lead to bloating which is what I have. The good news is my Testosterone is solid now.

@0riginalrelica my bloating has been killing me lately and I’m not sure what it is and I think I need to get a better digestive enzyme