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Hey guys got a question for you I just switched from cypionate to sust 500 and Injected 1/2ml In my left cheek I woke up the next morning and could barely walk my ass is so sore and a little swollen swelling is starting to go down but still hurts like hell I’ve been shot in the ass before and this feels just like that LOL has anyone experience this?
Cyp is all I’ve ever tried I’ll like it Reason for the switch is I don’t like pinning so trying to do once a week Injections
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My stats 5’8 234lbs been training 8 years I’m 28 done two cycles on my third now it’s been 2 years since last cycle and thought I would try something different but I guess I should stick to what I know or Anyone know how to combat the soreness will it go away over time as I get used to it or will it continue to be sore through the entire cycle
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My stats 5’8 234lbs been training 8 years I’m 28 done two cycles on my third now it’s been 2 years since last cycle and thought I would try something different but I guess I should stick to what I know or Anyone know how to combat the soreness will it go away over time as I get used to it or will it continue to be sore through the entire cycle
TheGainTrain
Banned
Sust 500?
A) I’ve know a few brewers, all claim holding 500 mg of test per cc is impossible.
B) I’ll bet the BB/BA content is through the roof. That’s gonna cause massive pip and swelling.
Pharma sust gives me 0 pip. But, I never get pip from test prop either
A) I’ve know a few brewers, all claim holding 500 mg of test per cc is impossible.
B) I’ll bet the BB/BA content is through the roof. That’s gonna cause massive pip and swelling.
Pharma sust gives me 0 pip. But, I never get pip from test prop either
It can definitely happen with some brands. Where did you get your gear?
TheGainTrain
Banned
Absolutely you can mix oils.
TheGainTrain
Banned
Did a little research, and spoke to a brewer with 20 years experience.
Was also reminded of this video. Say what you will about RP but he does know gear.. I’ll leave this here for you. I’m not asking you to believe it, but to do your own research.
I challenge anyone to show me lab testing on t-500
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhpT4zfzqJw&app=desktop
Was also reminded of this video. Say what you will about RP but he does know gear.. I’ll leave this here for you. I’m not asking you to believe it, but to do your own research.
I challenge anyone to show me lab testing on t-500
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhpT4zfzqJw&app=desktop
I got my Sustanon 500 from PSL a month or so ago. It hurt like hell when I pinned Glutes. After a few weeks I noticed Delts weren't as bad. So I've been pinning in deltas since. Just got blood work done last week and was around 2500 ng/dl. I will say this... I ordered Sustanon 500 from PSL last August (I believe) and it had pretty much 0 pip.
TheGainTrain
Banned
Was that an attempt to prove t500?
Well allow me to retort..
I rub semen on my muscles and went in for testing and my test levels were OVER 9000!!!! (See how easy that was?)
Your semen or your mans? Lol no that was not a jab to prove you wrong brother. Or I would have quoted you. All I was saying is the new 500 i got from PSL hurts like hell compared to what I have received in the past.
TheGainTrain
Banned
Ha ha ha. Lil bit of both! Oh for sure high dose test is gonna hurt. But no one can brew to 500.
And ya bro, if it didn’t hurt? Hmmm
This. I also agree with the per dose thought - I'd want to see that tested and proved.
Sustanon 500 explains it. I'd never get that high concentrated gear. You're just asking for it with PIP
SpicyGains321
New Member
Pretty sure it’s pretty much impassible to brew that much mg of Test into a ml of oil.
Any comments from PSL , Vision? Probably not, but figured I would give them the benefit of the doubt.
Any comments from PSL , Vision? Probably not, but figured I would give them the benefit of the doubt.
rihanetazi
New member
What are you saying is that the psl sus 500 is way lower than 500 or not even sus?? Cuz that's the one I have
SpicyGains321
New Member
I’m not saying it is or isn’t Sust. I’m just saying that 500mg in a single ml isn’t a thing.
rihanetazi
New member
Why would they sell it tho?
SpicyGains321
New Member
I don’t know brother. You’ll have to reach out to them and hear their excuses. God forbid anybody question them around here without being crucified. It’s a shame, because I appreciate the information in he podcasts and the info that comes from the more experienced people here. But he PSL dick sucking that goes on here is disgusting to be honest. I wasn’t impressed with their CS at all. If you question them, you’ll be chewed out by the brainwashed here.
SpicyGains321
New Member
Just want to be clear. I’m not saying PSL’s gear is bad or anything. Just sharing my experience.
rihanetazi
New member
Yeah bro i understand. Good for you to speak up honestly.
This topic can be address and I could provide a few explanations, but before I do so.. What exactly is your issue with us man? You've made this comment before about "d** sucking" and other crude remarks.. Is that type of talk or comments really necessary and why go out of your way?
In regards to anyone's Richard being gulped on, others may see it as customer satisfaction and loyalty because we produce authentic products that others fail to even come near, or simply don't have the means for compounding. We are not some generic contender or fly-by-night lab cooking out of a kitchen. We belong on many powerhouse forums with equal feedback in each panel regarding our products and services that you see here before your eyes. It appears that you are more problematic than the suspected CS of ours that you claim to be unimpressed by. We're going out of our way to produce great products, on the other hand you're going out of your way to give jabs and cheeky feedback whenever I turn around.. Is this you Eddie?
To the questions in the topic. Yes, high dosed gear can be problematic for some users and this can be said for some esters as well (some users can't use low carbon esters and others can) yet often others are impervious to the high hormone concentrations with some products that you see on the market today. Yes, some generic sub-par inexperienced labs will cut corners by attempting to create a stable environment with a higher solvent ratio hoping to keep the parenting hormones from crashing/falling out. These our the ones that give the market a bad name.
The type of carrier oils that are employed along with a keen understanding in compounding can mitigate anything that could potentially be problematic. Example, some Vet grade hormones (Testosterone) have been compounded at what appears on paper to be high dosages to humans; yet some here claim it's impossible to even synthesize? No, it's very doable and it's been done 100,000's of times over. One of the main reasons you don't see high dosed hormone products is largely due to the fact that it serves no real purpose in therapeutic settings for humans and far exceeds any gold standard or common treatment.. Now we're looking at supraphysiological blood serum levels, it's simply just not practical in medicine.. Do you think that's were Biochemists and Biophysicists hit a brick wall was at these standardized dosages that circulate the market? Come on.. T
I personally am NOT a fan of high concentration oils and the same goes for high volume oil injections as well. With almost all of my muscle heads I keep the oil volume lower, because of "my" sensitivities, yet I know guys that can plug mL's beyond mL's as if it's nothing at all. These hormones are simply just "more" stable at the dosages you see today.
Why is there even high dosed gear? To each their own, different stokes for different folks, some like the convenience with allowing the room for more oil volume with other compounds, it really truly is that simple!
Just because the idea goes beyond ones own understanding or belief doesn't mean others need to see things from a steadfast point of view only..This will never be a one size fits all way of life, ever.
TheGainTrain
Banned
Forgive me if this goes beyond the understanding and belief of Industry gurus, other brewers and myself.
There is no T500.
And nothing short of impartial lab testing can change my mind.
But, don’t listen to me. I’m just some guy that picks heavy shit up only to put it back down. And tbh I’ve never used psl
There is no T500.
And nothing short of impartial lab testing can change my mind.
But, don’t listen to me. I’m just some guy that picks heavy shit up only to put it back down. And tbh I’ve never used psl
So you make a statement that "you know people" therefore everyone should just take your word?
Yet you contradict yourself by turning around using someones elses forum of reference against them attempting to minimize his reference, when in fact what he's attempting to offer is the same thing you've been doing the whole topic a handful of times.. Making steadfast claims based on your word?!?!? In your very own words, see how easy that was. So in essence if his statement can't exist due to the ability of just being manufactured just because, than your word holds little to no value.
you don't see high dosed hormone products due to the fact that it serves no real purpose in therapeutic settings for humans and far exceeds any gold standard or common treatment..
But you know brewers.. Hmm.. I bet your guys are also bio-hacking in their very own kitchens synthesizing polypeptides and rHgh WITHOUT a masspec by-passing any analyzing that needs detect crude residues? I think the big fish like EP which sit in a tier far above your boys in the kitchen are able to compound 500mg of hormone if they have the facility to synthesize rHGH and peptides.
TheGainTrain
Banned
You don’t know anything about me vision. And I don’t know shit about you.
However I am quite certain that snarky, holier than though attitude you use in your online interactions would be dropped if this was in person.
Reason #143 why I don’t order psl.
TheGainTrain
Banned
Keep scrolling. Use your vision. A lot of people up in here calling bullshit
Let's get something straight here.. I'm simply demonstrating the same exact substance that you projected onto another member, tooting on your horn claiming something to be factual supporting that based on your word only to turn around and discredit someone else for doing the same exact display that you did and now you wanna start feeling all sorts of ways? Now you're finalizing it with some sort of indirect threat? Who's acting condescending here after all..
You don't need to behave like that.. I'm simply just clarifying things based on your notion of the impossibility, that in fact through science and innovation in biochemistry that things are more possible than one may think.
Why do I say this? Because we are simply doing it right before your eyes.. find me an independent third-party Mass spec testing facility, and I will gladly do everything in my power to find a member with in one of these communities the voluntarily donate one of his samples, at random, at any given time. I'm quite confident that the results will support everything that I'm advocating..
TheGainTrain
Banned
Let's get something straight here.. I'm simply demonstrating the same exact substance that you projected onto another member, tooting on your horn claiming something to be factual supporting that based on your word only to turn around and discredit someone else for doing the same exact display that you did and now you wanna start feeling all sorts of ways? Now you're finalizing it with some sort of indirect threat? Who's acting condescending here after all..
You don't need to behave like that.. I'm simply just clarifying things based on your notion of the impossibility, that in fact through science and innovation in biochemistry that things are more possible than one may think.
Why do I say this? Because we are simply doing it right before your eyes.. find me an independent third-party Mass spec testing facility, and I will gladly do everything in my power to find a member with in one of these communities the voluntarily donate one of his samples, at random, at any given time. I'm quite confident that the results will support everything that I'm advocating..
I like this, let’s do it.
And for the record, I have been wrong.. once, tho it was a long time ago. [emoji848]
I would love to see closure on this, and if I’m wrong. I’ll gladly switch to psl t500
SpicyGains321
New Member
Let's get something straight here.. I'm simply demonstrating the same exact substance that you projected onto another member, tooting on your horn claiming something to be factual supporting that based on your word only to turn around and discredit someone else for doing the same exact display that you did and now you wanna start feeling all sorts of ways? Now you're finalizing it with some sort of indirect threat? Who's acting condescending here after all..
You don't need to behave like that.. I'm simply just clarifying things based on your notion of the impossibility, that in fact through science and innovation in biochemistry that things are more possible than one may think.
Why do I say this? Because we are simply doing it right before your eyes.. find me an independent third-party Mass spec testing facility, and I will gladly do everything in my power to find a member with in one of these communities the voluntarily donate one of his samples, at random, at any given time. I'm quite confident that the results will support everything that I'm advocating..
Hey, so there’s multiple independent testing facilities. Try Weights & Measures from MESO (no disrespect to this forum by introducing outside sources). There are multiple independent testing facilities there, to include Jano, and more.
Honestly Vision, I think my problem is with your CS. You attack folks when they question you guys. You have no independent test results to prove your stuff. You say that anybody can sell for EP, which I don’t know is true or not, but you and UncleZ are the only sources selling it. This leads me to believe that PSL/UncleZ owns EP, or visa versa or whatever. And, if you look around, most legitimate companies test their product and provide results to the community. I haven’t seen that with you guys. Beyond that, the UncleZ connection rubs me the wrong way, regardless of what you might say about its’ legitimacy.
I think with 10 years in the business, as you claim, you would have numerous independent tests at this point to prove the legitimacy of your products, which you have absolutely none that I’ve seen. If you look elsewhere, brand new sources are providing this within the first few months of opening up shop.
Sust 500 isn’t a thing. If it is, it would hurt like holy hell upon injection.
Also, I’ve never said anything negative about you before like you’re saying. You must have me confused with somebody else. I’ve questioned you before, but never talked shit. I’ve just been noticing how PSL talks to people over the last few months, and honestly I think it’s BS brother.
If I’m proven wrong by you guys, that’s awesome. But please provide some independent testing already.
I am fully aware of the testing facilities that are available especially at the community that you mentioned.. a matter of fact we have had our entire line tested, we have also had our line tested at random.. we have provided the results numerous times.. we even offered them on our ordering site.. however I requested to have them removed because of the individual that provided the mass spec testing "Jano"..
You question my customer service, but yet I'm more transparent and loyal to my customer base than you think.
An example would be the removal of those test results, that was done at the request of me.. because there has been some discrepancy about the lll legitimacy of Jano's ability along with his testing facility. I'm not going to let this get off topic by venturing into Jano, but I have seen enough overwhelming evidence to stay far away from him.
Although all of our products tested on point and many well over dosed, I still believe in honesty and transparency by not using his testing results any longer as a platform and leverage with presenting our products. That would be false misrepresenting who we are and the integrity that we possess.. like I said we have had customers from other message boards that I will not mention along with their staff and administration send in samples and everything passed with flying colors and plus some..
With this being said, I made the suggestion of others to find a third-party testing facility of their liking this way the results do not seem biased coming from us.. does that make any sense?
We can provide testing results all day long, but let's be real, that looks way too biased.. people will question why we don't have tests, but when we do provide them they will question the authenticity, it's a cat-and-mouse game that goes all day long..
Sometimes it's better to just let the community do the testing themselves..
If you question my approach, than do some research on the other communities on how I operate and you'll get your answers..
The communities and the customer base comes first and foremost above anything else. I am as transparent as they come, if I don't like something then I will tell you.
If you would like I could show you a plethora of mass spec tests provided by Jano on just about all of our product line including blends.. but those results mean nothing to me, and it goes against the very principles that I'm trying to implement.. integrity, honesty and transparency..
Last but not least I will see you on the comment about attacking customers when questioned, but you think we are on even playing field here when people are spouting "lots of dick sucking going on"? Or, let's hear excuses?
It's not fair to hold a sponsor hostage when such comments are flying our way, but yet we're called out because of our robust response?!?!?
We are not successful because it just happened by chance, we are successful because of the formula that we follow, it is these very notions that keeps us on top of the market. It is also the overwhelming customer base that gives us such tremendous support, because of our large clientele base we are able to provide the quality that are customers not only need but deserve each and every single time..
We didn't just happened, our customers made us happen!
SpicyGains321
New Member
Bud, you’re successful because you guys change your name when shit goes south. Like the UncleZ to PSL swap.
Look, I’m not trying to crash your business. If you guys have good gear, post up the results brother.
Brother, what are you even talking about being on an even playing field? Please clarify what you mean.
I am seriously and honestly not trying to trash your name. I just want to see some honest test results and some better customer service. When somebody questions you (an average customer), you don’t need to be defensive and attack. Respectfully reply to their concern, regardless of if their right or wrong. That’s how commercial business operates.
Also, the Sust500 is not 500mg of Sust. Let’s be honest about that.
This is where problems begin.. you are making assumptions attempting to connect dots for your own understanding, you are tossing out in the air your perception of what you believe is happening with this network.. I do not owe you any explanation on the owners of the companies other than the fact that this is a network. Do not put a spin on this, no matter what I'm saying you are slicing and dicing.
In regards to responding to customers with some sort of humble business etiquette when the customer is wrong is not how the real world operates. We are not some commercial business that is desperate because of competitors.. if a customer is wrong we are not morally obligated to provide them with any extra services, if you think that's how this world operates than I'm confident that you are that guy. because in fact you're doing it right now with your trolling. But I will entertain you, because I'm very confident that I can sustain this.
If the sust is NOT 500mg.. prove me wrong? If you're making that claim, then you need to provide the community with something to support yourself. Because that claim is baseless, and it's fueling off of your subjective opinion.
And cut the BS with your true intentions that you're not attempting to sabotage the company, because every other statement you have possesses and undertone trying to dismantle and discredit everything.
Again.. about the results.. They are from Jano, in which I'm not to thrilled about. Regardless of what the numbers say, they are numbers that I cannot support or endorse.
SpicyGains321
New Member
Here we go again.
It is not MY responsibility to prove you wrong regarding the contents of the product that you claim to sell. This is solely your responsibility.
I am not trolling. I am asking honest questions. And you’re very obviously pissed off because what I am saying is poking very large holes in your operations, which you do not have an intelligent answer to respond with.
I’m not connecting dots. I am stating the same bivouac. Both UncleZ and PSL are the same. The same template and design. The same prices and deals. You two are the same company. Let’s stop the BS. Of your product is good, then it’s not a big deal.
You’re attacking my character, hoping that I get kicked off the board. Saying that I’m attacking you guys when in reality I am asking legitimate questions.
And yes, you in fact do owe me answers. You owe me and everyone else that could potentially buy from you answers. Are you seriously saying that people should buy from you and they are not entitled to ask questions regarding your authenticity? This is EXACTLY why I stated this whole discussion in the first place!
Brother, I’ve take screenshots of everything said in this thread. Seriously, I’m well known in other forums. Please give me something tangible without disrespecting all of the members here to dictate that your gear is good.
If your gear is good, that will be the end of it. I will admit I was wrong here and in other places. But you keep making excuses. Please, please, provide some recent independent lab results.
Thank you.
I'm sorry, you seriously don't understand the concept with direct and indirect distribution and how different parties can by indirectly related by way of channels .. Let's move on from that shall we, because clearly you wish for me to admit something that false..I can PROMISE you, I am not one least bit worked up in the least, Spicy.. You're not exposing any loop-holes because I clearly said I'll entertain you for a bit. If your intense endeavor is to take screen shots and take the piss out of a topic, then so be it, it's your time spend not mine.
Most recent mass spec? Meh, I think we posted this test back in Sept, a matter of fact it was posted here on Evo..
And these date back in August, these were NEWLY added oils and we ran tests to confirm before we committed.
Spicy, Is there anything else that I can do for you? Please feel free to PM me with any questions or concerns that you may have , I'll do my best to provide you with the answers that you need and deserve.
Before I forget, would you like to see some peer reviewed blood work with HGH blood serums, Test serums or anything of that nature provided by members from this very community?
SpicyGains321
New Member
I'm sorry, you seriously don't understand the concept with direct and indirect distribution and how different parties can by indirectly related by way of channels .. Let's move on from that shall we, because clearly you wish for me to admit something that false..I can PROMISE you, I am not one least bit worked up in the least, Spicy.. You're not exposing any loop-holes because I clearly said I'll entertain you for a bit. If your intense endeavor is to take screen shots and take the piss out of a topic, then so be it, it's your time spend not mine.
Most recent mass spec? Meh, I think we posted this test back in Sept, a matter of fact it was posted here on Evo..
And these date back in August, these were NEWLY added oils and we ran tests to confirm before we committed.
Spicy, Is there anything else that I can do for you? Please feel free to PM me with any questions or concerns that you may have , I'll do my best to provide you with the answers that you need and deserve.
Before I forget, would you like to see some peer reviewed blood work with HGH blood serums, Test serums or anything of that nature provided by members from this very community?
That’s awesome brother. That’s a first step. You did nothing to answer any of my statements and questions that I presented. So I would appreciate if you would address those as well. All of them.
Those results are from damn near a year ago. So they say nothing. I asked for recent results. If you have none, submit those and report back here with evidence.
I don’t appreciate your condescending attitude by the way. I’m asking simple questions that any business should be able to present.
However, I sincerely appreciate your attempts. Minus the attitude.
Awesome.. if you guys know a testing facility that YOU trust that has no affiliation with us, we will send samples.. btw, one thing I've learned years ago "you're never more wrong than thinking your always right".. we learn in life from the things we don't know.. I was wrong once he says, haha.. that reminds me of Johnny Dangerously sounds like something he would say..
Would you like a sample of the sust? I can arrange that for you..
First and foremost, I think it's about time you simmer down because I have answered every that you have asked furthermore I provided the most recent Mass spec tests that you have requested of. unfortunately they are not of your liking so naturally you were going to critique them and you were going to do that initially.. I stated that they are from Jano before I even posted them and I told you we no longer deal with him..
you do not run this operation and a matter of fact you do not call the shots in this community..
You are now disrespecting the community and most of all you hijacked and railroaded the topic from the initial poster and turned it into your own agenda with questions and concerns that only benefit you, every time you get a response you turn around and make ultimatums..
There is a lot of veterans in this community that have spent their hard-earned time with making this place a go-to resource for information and now you were trampling all over them with your unnecessary shenanigans and antics..
I highly suggest you reconsider your approach.. show the community some more respect, and I advise you not to gloat about possessing some sort of resume from other communities... Because that means nothing here..
you have completely disrespected the integrity and the honor of this community by blatantly stating that individuals in this community are involved in some sort of dick sucking ritual.. that may fly in some of the communities you're involved with,but I can guarantee you I'm also active in other communities a matter of fact I'm a super moderator in one of them and none of this would ever be tolerated whether it was given to another member or another sponsor..
you are not entitled to some sort of special treatment especially with your demands..
I'm going to tell you that you owe the community and apology for your behavior and your disruption in this topic and you have completely disrespected the original poster..
Some of the members in this community may not always see eye-to-eye but at the end of the day everyone works together to make this a good community.. and you are being extremely toxic and you're acting up noxious and obtuse.
I would re-evaluate your approach and your decisions from here on out..
I may be a sponsor here but I'm also a contributing member as well..
Show some class and have some integrity because you have failed to do either one of that..
You mentioned the option of using the testing facility the I so happen to post results of and that was not good enough for you. I was in compliance with one of your concerns.. I answered everything that needed to be addressed..
Our dialogue is complete and closed..
how you choose to conduct yourself there after is a reflection on yourself in front of the rest of your peers in this community.. I would suggest you treat them it higher regards . Because this topic is not about you..
Don't make it about your own personal agenda with your hidden interior motives..
TheGainTrain
Banned
SpicyGains321
New Member
Thank you bro. PSL is a group of jokers. There’re trying to make personal attacks saying that somehow we are disrespecting the communication.
Please, if anyone here feels disrespected somehow, let me know.
SpicyGains321
New Member
Well, one episode again, here we go. Making personal attacks trying to get me and others kicked off this board.
You’re making personal attacks once again. Stop it. I have not done any of that to you.
At this point, you guys have nothing once so ever intelligent to respond to. You guys are simply jokers. You guys are the same thing as the UncleZ. I’ve asked nicely multiple times for refute to these claims. But you don’t care.
I guarantee that you will respond to this once again with ‘disrespect to this community.’
You are the only people disrespecting this community.
You claim that WE are not owed any kind of explanation or test results.
You’re fucking silly.
Yes, we should pay for your bullshit phony drugs to be tested for you to make you more money.
Do you really think the community is this stupid?
You never addressed any of my claims. You are UncleZ. You have the same format. You have the same deals. You talk the same way. You respond the same way. You are UNCLEZ.
1989
New member
I have no connection to PSL , I am just a happy customer. PSL is great, 99% of the forum active users would say the same. You are attacking a forum sponsor that is 100% legit. So what if they called a different name before? I just dont get what you 2 are trying to accomplish... 500 is impossible to produce? Hey guess what? Buy some and go get it tested and post results and let the community make their own decisions. Do you ask this to every other supplier that sells 400 or 500? This isnt Amazon or walmart...like vision said, customer isnt always right... all this stuff is illegal...
so at this point it really looks like you are obviously working for somebody elsewhere and trying to paint PSL a bad name here, which I can guarantee, you will fail
SpicyGains321
New Member
Yes bud. I’m working for somebody else. You’re ridiculous. If anything, you sound like a shill for PSL.
I’m simply asking for recent test results.
Fuck any bull shit you and PSL come up with at this point. I’m simply asking for independent results. Every serious company has produced this within days of being asked in other forums. No name calling and questions asked.
At this point, it’s extremely obvious that PSL can’t produce any kind of independent lab results.
You and PSL are full of shit. I’m done responding to you guys.
Any of the intelligent people here can read back and make their own judgements. I have screenshots of your shoddy attempts at refuting your business.
Good luck to you. I, and my brothers in other facilities now know better than to trust your sham of a business.
If you can prove ANY kind of recent results, please do so.
Otherwise, the screenshots and your stupid attitude will demonstrate you’re for what you truly are.
SpicyGains321
New Member
I really tried to be curteous with you guys.
So PSL has been top notch, search my posts. Here are my bloods on their test cyp 200mg/ml. I was running 375mg/week at the time and test levels were around 1850 so very potent stuff:
Now im sure you are going to want to see a vid of the vial being filled directly by PSL, me drawing exactly 375mg worth, and dosing in my glute then the video of me going to quest diagnostics to get my bloods done (fucking with you man LOL).
Now if you have had a shitty experience with PSL I feel you man, ive been scammed so many times in the past its absurd but since joining this forum I havent had a single issue with any of the sponsors and if something has come up they have fixed.
For me I would always use PSL. There are other legit sources out there though so options to choose from.
Back to the original post though I guess my question is why cant Test 500 exist? I am a math/economics guy so I dont get all the science behind it but is it just due to the fact that you cant physically get 500mg of a test raw diluted into 1ml?
I really like the idea of Test 400 as when I run my next cycle I am stacking compounds so the less oil means fewer injections but this thread has my interest.
Now im sure you are going to want to see a vid of the vial being filled directly by PSL, me drawing exactly 375mg worth, and dosing in my glute then the video of me going to quest diagnostics to get my bloods done (fucking with you man LOL).
Now if you have had a shitty experience with PSL I feel you man, ive been scammed so many times in the past its absurd but since joining this forum I havent had a single issue with any of the sponsors and if something has come up they have fixed.
For me I would always use PSL. There are other legit sources out there though so options to choose from.
Back to the original post though I guess my question is why cant Test 500 exist? I am a math/economics guy so I dont get all the science behind it but is it just due to the fact that you cant physically get 500mg of a test raw diluted into 1ml?
I really like the idea of Test 400 as when I run my next cycle I am stacking compounds so the less oil means fewer injections but this thread has my interest.
I always run test 400 for my base. It has some pip to be sure, but I hate pinning, and it means not sitting with a needle in me trying to cram even more cc's of gear in me.So PSL has been top notch, search my posts. Here are my bloods on their test cyp 200mg/ml. I was running 375mg/week at the time and test levels were around 1850 so very potent stuff:
Now im sure you are going to want to see a vid of the vial being filled directly by PSL, me drawing exactly 375mg worth, and dosing in my glute then the video of me going to quest diagnostics to get my bloods done (fucking with you man LOL).
Now if you have had a shitty experience with PSL I feel you man, ive been scammed so many times in the past its absurd but since joining this forum I havent had a single issue with any of the sponsors and if something has come up they have fixed.
For me I would always use PSL. There are other legit sources out there though so options to choose from.
Back to the original post though I guess my question is why cant Test 500 exist? I am a math/economics guy so I dont get all the science behind it but is it just due to the fact that you cant physically get 500mg of a test raw diluted into 1ml?
I really like the idea of Test 400 as when I run my next cycle I am stacking compounds so the less oil means fewer injections but this thread has my interest.
rihanetazi
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Not a brewing pro here or anything, I just wanna know why 500mg/ml is impossible, because I ordered that, and hope I didn't waste my money? Do you think it's underdosed or what? Btw I've Googled testosterone 500 and few ugl's produce it. I'm not pro psl or anything, I'm just pro customer reviews and lab tests, everyone seems to be satisfied with their products. I think you are attacking the whole lab rather than sus500 itself. The rest of the products have been lab tested and ppl have shown blood work.
First of all it can be done and has been done. Just because your brewers cant do it. psl does it better than any ive seen. It has a bite but nothing like the crippling pain from other labs that i have tried in the past.
Seriously!!!! A proven company with proven products all of a sudden is in question of what??? Selling underdosed or fake gear. Seriously? With all the test done over and over and constantly proving and showing proof of our products and bloodwork.. Why ? Because one guy who has run gear for 2yrs says it cant be done..lmfao. What is wrong with this ....it amazes me. That the people here are so quick to jump on a band wagon and question psl and our products......
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