Tren A reaction?

[Frogznlogz]

I have used Tren E for several cycles and never had a problem with it, but when I use Tren A (yesterday) I have a lot of PIP with swelling and it even feels warm to the touch. It happened to me about 2 years ago, too and I chocked it up to being bad gear. I even had a bad injection that wasn't deep enough and it turned into a big red 6-7 inch circle that was very painful and lasted a couple of weeks. That wasn't a giant lump, it was more of an indentation.

Does anyone else have problems with Tren A? I've used NPP with no issues and test prop also with no issues.

 

[santa666]

Generally speaking, I tend to get PIP with high concentration anything. Specially prop 125/150mg.
Diluting it in more oil to about half strength always fixes it and removes any pip.

 

[Frogznlogz]

Generally speaking, I tend to get PIP with high concentration anything. Specially prop 125/150mg.
Diluting it in more oil to about half strength always fixes it and removes any pip.

Yeah, that might be it. It does feel like the Test 500 when I didn't know any better and shot that straight. But it's only 100mg / ml. Is the acetate ester "bigger" in that 100mg/ ml would give me pip and 200mg / ml of the E ester not give me pip? (Sorry if that's worded funny, am kinda mentally fatigued)

 

[santa666]

Yeah, that might be it. It does feel like the Test 500 when I didn't know any better and shot that straight. But it's only 100mg / ml. Is the acetate ester "bigger" in that 100mg/ ml would give me pip and 200mg / ml of the E ester not give me pip? (Sorry if that's worded funny, am kinda mentally fatigued)

Different esters can suspend different amount of raw compound. I've honestly forgot the math for them
I've done a whole tren a/test prop cycle for 12 weeks and did ED pinning and PIP is honestly bit weird.
Some brands/oils just give me pip 100/100 times... Some other ones, I get pip maybe 1/10th injection.
And some brands, I never get pip at all.

The only difference i've noticed is that the carrier oil has been different. Maybe that's why diluting the oil has helped me?

 

[P0N]

The PIP can be due to higher melting points of certain esters as they will be more likely to crystallize in place than those with lower melting points.

 

[monkofdarkness]

I have used Tren E for several cycles and never had a problem with it, but when I use Tren A (yesterday) I have a lot of PIP with swelling and it even feels warm to the touch. It happened to me about 2 years ago, too and I chocked it up to being bad gear. I even had a bad injection that wasn't deep enough and it turned into a big red 6-7 inch circle that was very painful and lasted a couple of weeks. That wasn't a giant lump, it was more of an indentation.

Does anyone else have problems with Tren A? I've used NPP with no issues and test prop also with no issues.

I am thinking about using tren E. How long do you cycle it for? I am thinking about doing 400 mg per week. The first 4 weeks together with 50 mg tren acetate per day.

 

[Harbormaster]

I am thinking about using tren E. How long do you cycle it for? I am thinking about doing 400 mg per week. The first 4 weeks together with 50 mg tren acetate per day.

Damn dude that would be a lot of tren ! I would just stick with the tren E . There's no need to mix them and 750 of tren is too high in my opinion

 

[monkofdarkness]

Damn dude that would be a lot of tren ! I would just stick with the tren E . There's no need to mix them and 750 of tren is too high in my opinion

How long would you cycle it for?

 

[Harbormaster]

How long would you cycle it for?

My personal opinion is that tren should only be used for specific purposes and only if the benefits outweigh the side effects. Personally I think it should only be used by people who have pretty extensive experience with steroids and have a good handle on where they are at physically and mentally. Even when I was competing at regional NPC I never used more than 700mgs/week and 10 weeks max and I wouldn't suggest it.

 

[dylangemelli]

My personal opinion is that tren should only be used for specific purposes and only if the benefits outweigh the side effects. Personally I think it should only be used by people who have pretty extensive experience with steroids and have a good handle on where they are at physically and mentally. Even when I was competing at regional NPC I never used more than 700mgs/week and 10 weeks max and I wouldn't suggest it.

i agree with you all the way... tren is an entirely different ball game and even experienced users will find that over time, tren will affect them differently... its a head game at all times with tren... it can wreck you mentally both with being confusing and because it can give you such and up and down mood and attitude... its something you dont want to use too often and dont ever want to try to get greedy with... there's just so many other compounds where you can avoid a lot of these issues with ..

 

[Mobster]

Another reason for not using high dose amounts (per ML) gear.

 

[Frogznlogz]

Another reason for not using high dose amounts (per ML) gear.

I didn't think 100 mg/ml was a high dose.

 

[Harbormaster]

i agree with you all the way... tren is an entirely different ball game and even experienced users will find that over time, tren will affect them differently... its a head game at all times with tren... it can wreck you mentally both with being confusing and because it can give you such and up and down mood and attitude... its something you dont want to use too often and dont ever want to try to get greedy with... there's just so many other compounds where you can avoid a lot of these issues with ..

Yes! Aside from the feeling like there is a furnace running inside your body all night, for me the psychological effects are very noticeable. Just as an example, when I was on that high dose tren I was absolutely convinced my girlfriend at the time was cheating on me with some guy that was painting the neighbor's house. Absolutely no realistic reason for it at all. I went over there and completely wigged out on him and definitely would have assaulted him if he had come down off the ladder. A couple weeks later the same girl got arrested for DUI and when I went to the police station to get her I went totally nuts on a cop that I thought was being a dick. The only reason i didn't get arrested was that i had a good friend who was also a cop and got his gear from me. Thankfully he was there and intervened and kept that cop from arresting me. That was the last time i touched tren!!! I have never had that kind of "roid rage" ever on anything else.

 

[stevesmi]

try it again and if you get the same issue then stop using it, switch back to the E you used before

 

[Harbormaster]

I didn't think 100 mg/ml was a high dose.

For a long time, 75mg/ml was the standard.

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

Could be the carrier oil or something with the BA/BB. Hard to say. If it happens again just move back to another product.

 

[RickRock]

Never really heard of this bit if it's an issue switch to tren e if it works better for you

 

[Tazz]

My personal opinion is that tren should only be used for specific purposes and only if the benefits outweigh the side effects. Personally I think it should only be used by people who have pretty extensive experience with steroids and have a good handle on where they are at physically and mentally. Even when I was competing at regional NPC I never used more than 700mgs/week and 10 weeks max and I wouldn't suggest it.

well said brother